This is my first foray into the Verizon locked bootloader world. The first time I've had a locked bootloader on any ROM, actually.
Would a Developer Edition be noticeably faster than a non-Dev edition if both were running the same rooted 5.1 ROM?
CZ Eddie said:
This is my first foray into the Verizon locked bootloader world. The first time I've had a locked bootloader on any ROM, actually.
Would a Developer Edition be noticeably faster than a non-Dev edition if both were running the same rooted 5.1 ROM?
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there is no root for lollipop. There are no upgrades for developer version
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donc113 said:
there is no root for lollipop.
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I can flash a pre-rooted Lollipop on my rooted Note 3.
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There are no upgrades for developer version
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Not sure what you meant by this?
I read somewhere the Dev version can flash any ROM for the Note 3, even using the T-Mobile ROM's (as long as you edit the APN)?
Anyways, the point of my question is, assuming the same ROM on both devices, does the Dev have a performance benefit over the non-Dev due to the Safestrap on the non-Dev?
CZ Eddie said:
I can flash a pre-rooted Lollipop on my rooted Note 3.
Not sure what you meant by this?
I read somewhere the Dev version can flash any ROM for the Note 3, even using the T-Mobile ROM's (as long as you edit the APN)?
Anyways, the point of my question is, assuming the same ROM on both devices, does the Dev have a performance benefit over the non-Dev due to the Safestrap on the non-Dev?
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Read this thread on the developer version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2525208
A pre-rooted lollipop ROM that can be flashed from a kitkat rooted note 3 is a one time shot. If you lose root for ANY reason it is lost for good. You can not go back.
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Now that we have lollipop for note 3 is there a root method
NO
Don't expect one until the JasmineROM dev releases MultiSystem. For that we need to wait for Verizon/Samsung to release the firmware. Could be about a week from now at least, 2 at most.
simcardslot said:
Don't expect one until the JasmineROM dev releases MultiSystem. For that we need to wait for Verizon/Samsung to release the firmware. Could be about a week from now at least, 2 at most.
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Thanks for the info...waiting patiently...
No root is not possible after nc4 it may never be possible to root we will most likely get a pre rooted rom able to be loaded on the nc4 bootloader
So when should we expect root for the note 3 running lollipop? Now that lollipop is out for the Verizon note 3 I mean.
Ask the Note 4 people. They have been waiting for root on lollipop longer and nothing yet. Expect nothing but there is always hope.
simcardslot said:
Don't expect one until the JasmineROM dev releases MultiSystem. For that we need to wait for Verizon/Samsung to release the firmware. Could be about a week from now at least, 2 at most.
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Multisystem isn't a root, its something like safestrap
raze5115 said:
So when should we expect root for the note 3 running lollipop? Now that lollipop is out for the Verizon note 3 I mean.
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Don't expect it, Lollipop is some serious biz and the security is tougher than ever which is good
mirrin said:
No root is not possible after nc4 it may never be possible to root we will most likely get a pre rooted rom able to be loaded on the nc4 bootloader
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On it be able to load on the NC4 bl is a story untold yet though
Reilly1812 said:
Ask the Note 4 people. They have been waiting for root on lollipop longer and nothing yet. Expect nothing but there is always hope.
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Never expect anything just hope for it
Being able to boot from NC4 bootloader would be a plus! Then I can go back and forth between that and my trustworthy 4.4.2 ROM. Lolipop might not be able to load from an old bootloader though. We shall see.
christianpeso said:
Being able to boot from NC4 bootloader would be a plus! Then I can go back and forth between that and my trustworthy 4.4.2 ROM. Lolipop might not be able to load from an old bootloader though. We shall see.
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It was done before probably can be done again, not sure if they updated the bootloader just yet
Yeah that would be nice if we could go back to 4.4.2 where there was root for Android
CovXX said:
It was done before probably can be done again, not sure if they updated the bootloader just yet
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That was a while ago when it was done. 4.4.4 can not boot from NC4 firmware so more than likely 5.0 wont be able to do it either.
From reading HSBADRs thread, its looking like NC4 would be replaced by whatever the newest version is. There is no going back once you take his Lolipop ROM. So no backing up your 4.4.2 ROM before moving on because it wont work anymore. Safestrap will be gone as well and you will only have stock recovery.
Once you make that move to Lolipop, there is no going back to any of the previous ROMS that were released. That is a big commitment.
So no root for a while yet?
I noticed the lollipop update is now available for the note 3. However I still want to keep root. I searched google and found this guide, but I'm not sure if its legit or works.
http://www.android.gs/root-galaxy-note-3-n900-on-android-5-0-lollipop-using-odin/
Not sure, but did you see Hsbadr post in android dev...it's a rooted stock lollipop rom
Pay close attention...that is for the N900 International N3 that does not have a locked bootloader.
droidstyle said:
Pay close attention...that is for the N900 International N3 that does not have a locked bootloader.
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It's not the international N3, as those are modeled "N900n" where n is a number. The N900 is a SIM unlocked US variant that works on GSM only carriers. (All US variants are N900(x) where x is a letter representing the carrier. No Carrier leaves x blank.)
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Just to reiterate, this won't work on the N900V
The point is it does not work for Verizon or Att with locked bootloaders.
mjh68 said:
Not sure, but did you see Hsbadr post in android dev...it's a rooted stock lollipop rom
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I'm running Root stock lollipop now. Hasbdr decided to call it Jasmine Rom, but it's just rooted atock:sly:
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If I understand correctly there is currently no way to install Janine ROM of you are already on lollipop right? I just bought a used note three but haven't gotten it yet to see which firmware is on it. In coming from a g2 where there were plenty of ways to root
9646gt said:
If I understand correctly there is currently no way to install Janine ROM of you are already on lollipop right? I just bought a used note three but haven't gotten it yet to see which firmware is on it. In coming from a g2 where there were plenty of ways to root
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If you're already on lollipop than you cannot root or flash any roms. You need to be on either 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 already rooted with safe strap installed to install the rooted stock rom
Oh so jasmine ROM is basically stock 5.0 with root? So basically I just need to flash his ROM and I'm good to go? I'm running 4.4.2 and have safestrap installed
robotnikman said:
Oh so jasmine ROM is basically stock 5.0 with root? So basically I just need to flash his ROM and I'm good to go? I'm running 4.4.2 and have safestrap installed
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basically but its a little more than just flashing make sure to read the instructions
robotnikman said:
Oh so jasmine ROM is basically stock 5.0 with root? So basically I just need to flash his ROM and I'm good to go? I'm running 4.4.2 and have safestrap installed
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=60178468
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Is there a method to root an updated Note 3 for Verizon yet? I have tried like 5 different methods with none of them working. Could I be missing a method that does work?
No root for 4.4.4 and higher. This thread should not be in developer area.
cappysw10 said:
No root for 4.4.4 and higher. This thread should not be in developer area.
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I posted it there, and an admin moved it here by @DutchDogg54
cappysw10 said:
No root for 4.4.4 and higher. This thread should not be in developer area.
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How the heck is this rooted then??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760380
There is no root for 4.4.4 or above... yet. I'm not sure there will be, since everyone has moved on and Verizon does not plan to unlock the bootloader. Anyone currently rooted with a 4.4.4 or high ROM, stayed at 4.4.2 and then flashed a custom rom from there.
NHS2008 said:
How the heck is this rooted then??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760380
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Pre rooted custom rom when they went to that rom they entered the danger zone. If anything requiring reflashing happens to it they can permanently loose root.
Hi Everybody,,
I hope everybody is doing well.....
I need root for Galaxy note 3 Verizon, the version of the system is 5.0. And if the root was still not available i am ready to pay for it.
It's urgent
Search is your friend....
I heard someone was working on a 4.4.4 root
Then use that money to go buy a different phone because Verizon Note 3's with 5.0 on them can NOT be rooted.
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Downgrade
donc113 said:
Then use that money to go buy a different phone because Verizon Note 3's with 5.0 on them can NOT be rooted.
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Can you downgrade to KitKat and then root to Lollipop?
I rooted mine on KitKat awhile back and installed 5.0 stock and kept root. However, I ran into a problem when trying to flash TWRP because I couldn't access my previous custom recovery (I think I had SafeStrap?).
I used Odin to flash 5.0 stock but lost root.
Thanks
waxcatharsis said:
Can you downgrade to KitKat and then root to Lollipop?
I rooted mine on KitKat awhile back and installed 5.0 stock and kept root. However, I ran into a problem when trying to flash TWRP because I couldn't access my previous custom recovery (I think I had SafeStrap?).
I used Odin to flash 5.0 stock but lost root.
Thanks
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Nope. And you can do nothing to get root short of buying a new phone...or a used Verizon Note 3 that is on 4.4.2 or LOWER.
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donc113 said:
Nope. And you can do nothing to get root short of buying a new phone...or a used Verizon Note 3 that is on 4.4.2 or LOWER.
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You can't ODIN to the original stock version and root from there? I'm curious on what would be different if you went back to 4.3 and rooted from there.
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You can't ODIN to the original stock version and root from there? I'm curious on what would be different if you went back to 4.3 and rooted from there.
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Nope...you can not use Odin to go back to lower than 4.4.4. There are hardware "fuses" that once "blown" can not be reset and the system reads those fuses and will not allow an earlier OS to be flashed.
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i dont want to down grade to kitkat verion. I want to root it while it is lollipop.
yawael said:
i dont want to down grade to kitkat verion. I want to root it while it is lollipop.
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You can't. Its just not available.
yawael said:
i dont want to down grade to kitkat verion. I want to root it while it is lollipop.
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Good luck with that...because it's not available to anyone.
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unfortunately some people did it
Yet
really some people rooted it inorder to change the whole language of the phone
yawael said:
unfortunately some people did it
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Then ask them how they did it.
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yawael said:
really some people rooted it inorder to change the whole language of the phone
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Then send your phone to China and pray you get it back and that it works.
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any update
no, wait for the 15th, when there MAY be a working root announced
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...0v-verizon-t3317083/post65409673#post65409673
yes it was rooted but unfortunately they didn't release it to the public. the proof it was rooted because they were able to install a custom rom consisting the Arabic language.
yawael said:
yes it was rooted but unfortunately they didn't release it to the public. the proof it was rooted because they were able to install a custom rom consisting the Arabic language.
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That video was not proof. They could easily have used a prior rooted Note 3 and maintained root when upgrading to 5.0. Perhaps they did gain root on 5.0, but that video doesn't prove anything. I'm anxious for March 15th to see if their claims pan out or if they're just blowing smoke like everyone before them.
The Yemen team finally released it!!forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3/general/yemen-root-note-3-n900v-verizon-t3329389
Is there cyanogen mod available for verizon note 3 retail? Right now I'm on jasmine rom 6.1 on lollipop 5.0
Richdarkchocolat said:
Is there cyanogen mod available for verizon note 3 retail? Right now I'm on jasmine rom 6.1 on lollipop 5.0
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No
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Richdarkchocolat said:
Is there cyanogen mod available for verizon note 3 retail? Right now I'm on jasmine rom 6.1 on lollipop 5.0
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CM11 nightlies are available for rooted phones: https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=hltevzw
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CM11 nightlies are available for rooted phones: https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=hltevzw
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Reportedly this does not work on KitKat or above (4.4 and above). The bootloader is locked and can not be unlocked. The bootloader won't permit non-Verizon kernals to load.
I have not tried the above...but it has been reported on this forum and elsewhere.
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donc113 said:
Reportedly this does not work on KitKat or above (4.4 and above). The bootloader is locked and can not be unlocked. The bootloader won't permit non-Verizon kernals to load.
I have not tried the above...but it has been reported on this forum and elsewhere.
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You are correct, that's why I mentioned rooted phones. Nothing above 4.4.2 has been rooted and probably won't be despite rumors.
ArtfulDodger said:
You are correct, that's why I mentioned rooted phones. Nothing above 4.4.2 has been rooted and probably won't be despite rumors.
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Root and bootloader are two different concepts.
Kitkat 4.4.2 can be rooted with towelroot, but its bootloader cannot be unlocked thus no custom ROMs.
So a rooted Verizon note 3 still can not install cm11 or any other custom roms.
The correct phrase should be bootloader unlocked phones are eligible for custom roms.
We now have root for retail versions running both versions of lollipop and we have a boot loader unlock that works.
Support was dropped because of no maintainers, and the unofficial builds dropped because of RIL/LTE issues. A couple of devs and myself are looking at it.