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I unboxed my X10 today, and found that besides the relatively more obvious protective film I taken off once I opened the box, there is a EXTRA, very well positioned film on the top of the glass. If you look closely enough, you will see the edge of the extra film from the actual glass underneath. Does anyone else notice the same or is it just me? Is that really just one more layer of protective film or it is part of the material of the glass?
Yes, it comes with one pre-applied screen protector and one inside the box!
Out of interest what sized microSD card was included? Mine came with 16GB (Nordic version).
If I understood it right from the webpage I ordered mine from. does mine come with 8 GB
So how to take it off?
It's driving me insane....and why does a SCRATCH-RESSISTANT screen need a pre-applied screen protector???
So has anyone tried to remove the pre applied fim? I'm so against to use any kind of film on my touch screen device.
ivansee said:
So has anyone tried to remove the pre applied fim? I'm so against to use any kind of film on my touch screen device.
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I hate it too...so i just removed it
before/after pics: (replace xx wiiht tt)
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I actually got 2 ADDITIONAL screen protectors :-/ and mine came with 8gb card so ordering a 16gb one online
The "pre applied protector" is the one SE calls scratch resistant, I think. "Shutter proof sheet on mineral glass".
Take a look at the X10 white paper: developer.sonyericsson.com/getDocument.do?docId=102192
brodos123 said:
The "pre applied protector" is the one SE calls scratch resistant, I think. "Shutter proof sheet on mineral glass".
Take a look at the X10 white paper: developer.sonyericsson.com/getDocument.do?docId=102192
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As far as i know mineral glass is in itself "scratch proof". But that doesn't mean it can't be scratched of course. It means minor pocket scratches are avoided.
"Mineral glass is ordinary tempered glass made from silica. It is more scratch resistant than Plexiglass which is a plastic also used for watch crystals."
So if infact it is mineral glass there is no need for an extra layer of protection.
I'm not quite sure what "shutter proof sheet" is but seems strange that this screen should need one when other mineral glass screens do not.
Also should point out that for me it seems identical to the included "screen protector" in both size, thickness and consistency.
I'll report back if scratches start appearing on my screen. I'll give it 7 days of normal use(as i used my iPhone, Hero, LG Arena) to see if any scratches start appearing, but I doubt they will.
I didn't receive my X10 yet, but isn't the 'protective' film used to make the screen more fingerprint resistive?
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I didn't receive my X10 yet, but isn't the 'protective' film used to make the screen more fingerprint resistive?
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No, infact there were more fingerprints with the film applied vs when i removed it. You need a special coating on the screen for that(oleophobic coating) and with that you can wipe the screen clean very easily.
As far as i know the X10 has not have it's screen treated with oleophobic coating.
Trekster said:
As far as i know mineral glass is in itself "scratch proof". But that doesn't mean it can't be scratched of course. It means minor pocket scratches are avoided.
"Mineral glass is ordinary tempered glass made from silica. It is more scratch resistant than Plexiglass which is a plastic also used for watch crystals."
So if infact it is mineral glass there is no need for an extra layer of protection.
I'm not quite sure what "shutter proof sheet" is but seems strange that this screen should need one when other mineral glass screens do not.
Also should point out that for me it seems identical to the included "screen protector" in both size, thickness and consistency.
I'll report back if scratches start appearing on my screen. I'll give it 7 days of normal use(as i used my iPhone, Hero, LG Arena) to see if any scratches start appearing, but I doubt they will.
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According to the white pages:
"Scratch-resistant Yes. Shutter proof sheet on mineral glass"
The way I see it the "sheet" makes it scratch resistant.
If you ever had a watch (clock) with mineral glass, you know that it scratches easily. for a scratch resistant glass you need a saphire glass!
Both iphone and nexus one probarbly have mineral glass, but the thing making those so resistant (see youtube) is some kind of coating on the glass. (I think)
brodos123 said:
According to the white pages:
"Scratch-resistant Yes. Shutter proof sheet on mineral glass"
The way I see it the "sheet" makes it scratch resistant.
If you ever had a watch (clock) with mineral glass, you know that it scratches easily. for a scratch resistant glass you need a saphire glass!
Both iphone and nexus one probarbly have mineral glass, but the thing making those so resistant (see youtube) is some kind of coating on the glass. (I think)
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There is nothing in the white papers suggesting that either the nexus one, iPhone nor my old Hero had any other coating than the oleophobic coating for easy fingerprint removal.
Here is a good explanation of mineral glass vs. sapphire glass:
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/1870141
And yes Sapphire glass is the best but cost too much for ordinary phones. mineral glass will protect the phone against most pocket scratches. But the real test will be the next 7 days, today there is no apparent scratching of the phone(no micro-scratches either).
Also of note is that the screen seems much more responsive after the removal of their so called "shutter proof sheet".
What we really need is an reviewer that doesn't give a damn about his test-unit to give it a go...with and without the sheet!
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No, infact there were more fingerprints with the film applied vs when i removed it. You need a special coating on the screen for that(oleophobic coating) and with that you can wipe the screen clean very easily.
As far as i know the X10 has not have it's screen treated with oleophobic coating.
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Thanks for the two nice photos, Trekster! Do you find touch sensitivity has improved after you removed the sheet? I've been using the X10 for 1.5 days so far, and I still feel like sensitivity is not as good as iPhone (even worse than Nexus One)
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Thanks for the two nice photos, Trekster! Do you find touch sensitivity has improved after you removed the sheet? I've been using the X10 for 1.5 days so far, and I still feel like sensitivity is not as good as iPhone (even worse than Nexus One)
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Yes the sensitivity has been improved quite a bit. I would say it's on par with the other touchscreen phones now.
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So how to take it off?
It's driving me insane....and why does a SCRATCH-RESSISTANT screen need a pre-applied screen protector???
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The watchword here is scratch-resistant.
A glass screen will always be more scratch resistant than a plastic screen, but that doesn't mean that it can't be scratched at all. The screen-protector is just a way of helping extend the life of the screen face and I personally thank SE for providing it. Take spectacles for example. Glass lenses are harder wearing, but cost more and weigh more. Plastic lenses are lighter and cost less, but are more prone to scratches. You can still scratch glass lenses by putting them down glass first.
The difference between mineral glass and sapphire glass is interesting. My watch has a sapphire glass face and it has *ONE* scratch after 3 years of being worn everyday. That scratch came from a HARD direct impact (which hurt my wrist). The face is otherwise flawless.
ZenithUK said:
The watchword here is scratch-resistant.
A glass screen will always be more scratch resistant than a plastic screen, but that doesn't mean that it can't be scratched at all. The screen-protector is just a way of helping extend the life of the screen face and I personally thank SE for providing it. Take spectacles for example. Glass lenses are harder wearing, but cost more and weigh more. Plastic lenses are lighter and cost less, but are more prone to scratches. You can still scratch glass lenses by putting them down glass first.
The difference between mineral glass and sapphire glass is interesting. My watch has a sapphire glass face and it has *ONE* scratch after 3 years of being worn everyday. That scratch came from a HARD direct impact (which hurt my wrist). The face is otherwise flawless.
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Yes if you read my posts further along I do point out that the screen isn't scratch-proof
I do question the decision and still do as my HTC Hero(which I bought back in August 09) has ZERO scratches And they are both supposed to be based on the same mineral-glass technology.
Im testing
Well, I've removed the screen protector and I think it is much better.
It seems so much smoother, and the screen is definitely more responsive.
I will post again in a couple of weekend to keep you all up-to-date.
soo... u guys can confirm the touchscreen is way better without the foil on? ( more sensetive aaand more accurate???)
coz i am thinking of swappin mine 2 the Desire.. but cant test it takin of the protector.. otherwise they wont return it...
I have had my problems with the X10, but the screen and its sensitivity is not one of them.. Without the exception of the edges...
I can almost never type "a".
I added the second protection as well, and love how the screen works / flows...
(with the exception of the left edge )
I had my first hairline scratch for SGS2 within 4 days of usage. Probably the Oleophobic coating it had which is more prone than Gorilla Glass.
I hurried to get a Screen protector but what about the camera?
Nobody in the forum seemed to be concerned about giving the 8MP's a decent protection.
Anyone here use a old SP on the lens or leave it as it is?
For a scratch-phobia user like me, probably not leaving chances to luck.
mystril said:
I had my first hairline scratch for SGS2 within 4 days of usage. Probably the Oleophobic coating it had which is more prone than Gorilla Glass.
It is Gorilla Glass
I hurried to get a Screen protector but what about the camera?
make one out of a screen protector .
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I stick a smiley sticker on the back under the camera so it doesn't touch the surface when I leave it on the table.
Or you may trying cutting a piece from a screnprotector...
mystril said:
I had my first hairline scratch for SGS2 within 4 days of usage. Probably the Oleophobic coating it had which is more prone than Gorilla Glass.
I hurried to get a Screen protector but what about the camera?
Nobody in the forum seemed to be concerned about giving the 8MP's a decent protection.
Anyone here use a old SP on the lens or leave it as it is?
For a scratch-phobia user like me, probably not leaving chances to luck.
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Once I fixed a piece of a screen protector (which corresponded to area of the home button) on the camera's glass but it made my pictures terrible, specially because I covered the flash also. then I removed it. However it was one of the cheapest screen protector. A crystal clear one might be a different story.
mystril said:
I had my first hairline scratch for SGS2 within 4 days of usage. Probably the Oleophobic coating it had which is more prone than Gorilla Glass.
I hurried to get a Screen protector but what about the camera?
Nobody in the forum seemed to be concerned about giving the 8MP's a decent protection.
Anyone here use a old SP on the lens or leave it as it is?
For a scratch-phobia user like me, probably not leaving chances to luck.
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I'm using martin shields screen protector, it comes with the protector for camera lens as well.
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I use two magnets and a washer for protecting it.... here is a video showing it with my old Galaxy S battery cover....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-8P-xy32Tg&hd=1
Isn't compass showing towards your camera all the time?
I bought the SGP Ultra Capsule case for SGS2. It makes the phone about 1-2 mm thicker so when you put the phone on a flat surface the camera stays intact. Same goes for the screen. I've never used or even liked phone cases before but this case is awesome, my friends didn't even notice my phone had a case It also comes with a Crystal Clear screen protector so you can cut it to make a piece for your camera.
Oh and about the screen. The SGS2 screen is made of Gorilla Glass and has oleophobic coating. Oleophobic coating is not a glass type but coating, something that is added on top of the glass. And that coating doesn't scratch so you can't say that SGS2 is more prone to scratches due to the coating.
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Isn't compass showing towards your camera all the time?
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Yes, the compass is the only disadvantage... But I dont use it, I prefer protecting the camera...
Jiia said:
I bought the SGP Ultra Capsule case for SGS2. It makes the phone about 1-2 mm thicker so when you put the phone on a flat surface the camera stays intact. Same goes for the screen. I've never used or even liked phone cases before but this case is awesome, my friends didn't even notice my phone had a case It also comes with a Crystal Clear screen protector so you can cut it to make a piece for your camera.
Oh and about the screen. The SGS2 screen is made of Gorilla Glass and has oleophobic coating. Oleophobic coating is not a glass type but coating, something that is added on top of the glass. And that coating doesn't scratch so you can't say that SGS2 is more prone to scratches due to the coating.
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Yeap you're right. It should be the scratch-resistant (not proof) gorilla glass. I must make it clear that the scratch is a negligible hairline that only shows when screen's off.
I probably get a cheap crystal protector for the camera. Can't risk getting the goodness scratched =[
kirdroid said:
I'm using martin shields screen protector, it comes with the protector for camera lens as well.
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How is the screen protector like? I purchased a Matte Screen Protector and hell it makes my Super Amoled screen like rainbow glitter all over my screen. Especially the whites.
Worst money spent on a SP.
enough with cheap screen protector.
Try brando ultraclear and you won't regret it (brando don't pay me).
jokes aside, i had a pleomax screen protector with anti fingerprint treatment that work but the colors were bad. With the brando now i have the fingerprint but the colors are perfect and it's like there is not protector on the screen.
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sar3vok said:
enough with cheap screen protector.
Try brando ultraclear and you won't regret it (brando don't pay me).
jokes aside, i had a pleomax screen protector with anti fingerprint treatment that work but the colors were bad. With the brando now i have the fingerprint but the colors are perfect and it's like there is not protector on the screen.
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thanks man!
right now there're a few major downsides to SP for SGS2
Anti Fingerprint SP
+No Smudges
- Rainbow speckled display can drive some people mad when the purpose of SGS2 is it's beautiful AMOLED display. I mean, whats the point? Lol.
Crystal Clear SP
+Almost Naked SP
- Smudges.
Note: I am not too sure the extent of smudges on SP affecting user experiences.
But in short, with respect to thread's subject, I find many people have really unique ways to Sealing their SGS2 from wear and tear and by far the Magnet cover is the most creative and unique.
Solutions to SP for Camera
1) Get Martin Field's SP. They come with Camera SP. But they're only ones to do so.
2) Get a cheap crystal SP
3) Use a expensive SP just for the Camera SP.
Afterthoughts
I can't seem to abandon the thought of leaving the camera's glass Naked. I feel so uneasy when I lay it on the table, not knowing when some loose staplers or sand strikes/scratches.
Meanwhile I leave it to my case' thickness to safeguard my camera's glass for the time being...
Hey guys, so I just got my membrane screen protectors for the nexus 4, installation was pretty quick and bubble-less. I noticed tho, not all of the surface is covered.. just the screen. The edges and the other parts of the frontal glass are not covered and therefore scratch-exposed. I googled a bit and found out there probably is no screenprotector which allows FULL cover of the surface.
Can you guys confirm? I think these Membrane protectors I got are just bad.. crazy cheap price for 6 protectors. They are crystal clear tho.
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Hey guys, so I just got my membrane screen protectors for the nexus 4, installation was pretty quick and bubble-less. I noticed tho, not all of the surface is covered.. just the screen. The edges and the other parts of the frontal glass are not covered and therefore scratch-exposed. I googled a bit and found out there probably is no screenprotector which allows FULL cover of the surface.
Can you guys confirm? I think these Membrane protectors I got are just bad.. crazy cheap price for 6 protectors. They are crystal clear tho.
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It has a slight curve at the edges which doesn't allow for complete adhesion, and at the top for the camera and prox sensors need to be open...so someone decided.
mrhiab said:
It has a slight curve at the edges which doesn't allow for complete adhesion, and at the top for the camera and prox sensors need to be open...so someone decided.
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Thanks man. So which protector covers more?
I always have taken my phones to Ghost Armor, they cover everything for $40. They'll replace all of it for $10. It's almost rubber feeling but it's crystal clear.
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I always have taken my phones to Ghost Armor, they cover everything for $40. They'll replace all of it for $10. It's almost rubber feeling but it's crystal clear.
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$40? That's a lot for a screen protector. I'll just stick to Membrane protectors
To anyone having tried both Membrane screen protectors and Mediadevil protectors, which one is the best? My membrane protectors get veeeery dirty with fingerprints and crap, and cleaning up is not that easy. Crystal clear tho.
The screen protectors have to expose a few essential parts like the the front camera and proximity sensors etc. I don't see what the problem is as just about all of them cover a large percentage, unless you want to paint the phone in wood gloss.
You can use Skinomi wet screen protector and it seems to have a larger surface area and curves around the side edges of the phone. But that expose the screen protector to cases, when you put a case on, the case edges will dig into the screen protectors and lift it up. Skinomi is pretty good with resisting fingerprints and smudges for me.
I'm currently using the "iloome tempered glass" and the only thing it exposes are the front sensors.
eksasol said:
The screen protectors have to expose a few essential parts like the the front camera and proximity sensors etc. I don't see what the problem is as just about all of them cover a large percentage, unless you want to paint the phone in wood gloss.
You can use Skinomi wet screen protector and it seems to have a larger surface area and curves around the side edges of the phone. But that expose the screen protector to cases, when you put a case on, the case edges will dig into the screen protectors and lift it up. Skinomi is pretty good with resisting fingerprints and smudges for me.
I'm currently using the "iloome tempered glass" and the only thing it exposes are the front sensors.
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Ordered a couple Mediadevil today from Amazon, in a week or so I'll get them. Don't mind if it doesn't cover the entire surface (btw I knew FFC and proximity sensors don't have to be covered).
The stock screen protector is rubbing off so I replaced it with a new one.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N3ZTMLG/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Unlike the stock one, this one is the hard glass. (the stock one is a film).
The problem with this screen protector is that it is a grease/finger print magnet. Ususally I can remove the grease/finger print from the screen by rubbing it on my shirt. With this one, it just moves the finger print grease around. No my shirt is not greasy because I tried it on another phone and it didn't smear the grease around. The only way to get a clean screen is if I use a micro fiber clothe with some water. Also I noticed that my screen is not as bright as before with the new screen protector, especially when using it outdoors.
I was thinking about remove the screen protector all together. Since our phone has Corning® Gorilla® Glass 3, it "should" be fine. But before I remove the new screen protector, just wondering if anyone is going bare on the screen and if they have any issues with scratched screen.
Thanks
I haven't had any screen protector on my phone since october. Screen is fine, although I haven't dropped my phone.
I have been using the same screen protector which i bought from aliexpress and i can feel the brightness problem but i am fine with it since this tmp glass removes entirely the ugly black borders from the phone.
I dont know if there is a good color tempered glass which does both.
Just removed the aftermarket screen protector today and going bare. So far it seems fine and resistant to scratches as well. It feels a lot better than the stock screen protector or the aftermarket one. It is a lot brighter and really smooth. Another thing that I noticed is that it is a lot more sensitive to the touch.
Never used any sort of screen protector on my phones. Never a single scratch.
As long as you do not put any other items in a pocket with a phone, it should be fine.
I have tried 3-4 different screen protectors and none of them seem to stick properly. They never want to stick on either (or both) the left and right sides of the screen. idk what the issue is but I've never had that problem on other phones
I'm too afraid to not use any screen protector. The camera lens scratches so easily that I don't trust the glass at all.
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The stock screen protector is rubbing off so I replaced it with a new one.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Unlike the stock one, this one is the hard glass. (the stock one is a film).
The problem with this screen protector is that it is a grease/finger print magnet. Ususally I can remove the grease/finger print from the screen by rubbing it on my shirt. With this one, it just moves the finger print grease around. No my shirt is not greasy because I tried it on another phone and it didn't smear the grease around. The only way to get a clean screen is if I use a micro fiber clothe with some water. Also I noticed that my screen is not as bright as before with the new screen protector, especially when using it outdoors.
I was thinking about remove the screen protector all together. Since our phone has Corning® Gorilla® Glass 3, it "should" be fine. But before I remove the new screen protector, just wondering if anyone is going bare on the screen and if they have any issues with scratched screen.
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I Have the same problem. While the screen protector is ok and protects the phone, it catches fingerprints and the most anoying thing, outside it reflects everything and I can't see very well. I didn't find any matte or anti-glare tempered glass screen for le pro 3. Only iphone and something else. If anyone finds something good post a link please.
motanel_pufos said:
I Have the same problem. While the screen protector is ok and protects the phone, it catches fingerprints and the most anoying thing, outside it reflects everything and I can't see very well. I didn't find any matte or anti-glare tempered glass screen for le pro 3. Only iphone and something else. If anyone finds something good post a link please.
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It has been a week now since I removed all screen protector and I am happy that I did it. It feels so much better and I can say that the gorilla glass on this is legit. I work in a warehouse and I have my keys and a box cutter in my pockets. I try to keep them away from my phone but when you are moving fast, sometimes the box cutter ends up in the same packet as my phone. So far still no scratch on the screen.
I'm still keeping mine, even if reflects everything because on my old phone covered with full cover, front and back, dropped on a corner of the screen, the screen protector took the fall and broke instead of the actual screen. So better to be cautios.
Mine came with a screen protector (X727), but I ripped it off very quickly. I haven't broken a single smartphone yet.
No screen protector since day one. No case either. Dropped it few times and cosmetic glass around camera cracked. Front screen is pristine, which is surprising since I am not careful with it.
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Found these cases on Amazon that provide screen protection. I have used similar cases on other devices and have had good luck in preserving the screen without the use of a screen protector:
kw mobile canvas case
kw mobile cover shell case
Never used any screen protector on my smartphones, since my first Sony Ericson P800 years before the first iPhone were released...
Never broke the screen, had a few small scratches on some of them (not all though), and I usually keep my devices for 3 to 4 years. My previous phone was a Samsung Note 2, the screen is still perfect.
I will not put any screen protector on my Le Pro 3 either...
I was using the stock screen protector which was preinstalled until today. Sand scratched it so I removed it.
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Is anyone having issues with corners of your tempered glass protectors not adhering properly? I'm getting white ghosting all around the protector. Replacement ones had the same effect...
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Is anyone having issues with corners of your tempered glass protectors not adhering properly? I'm getting white ghosting all around the protector. Replacement ones had the same effect...
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Same problem for me.I think its because of the curve of the screen
I got the full coverage one from aliex, no problems with adhesion, but it's an awfull magnet for smudges and fingerprints, and dulls the colors of the screen, gonna run it a few days just for kicks, but I'll remove it for sure.
And oh, havent had a screen protector, not since day one, and no problems, not a scratch on my phone (I do take care of my gadgets though)
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Same problem for me.I think its because of the curve of the screen
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mine doesn't even cover the screen fully...baffled by this, honestly.
I removed screen protector today. Got sick of dust and other sht all around due to corners of glass not adhering properly. The phone looks much better, so far so good.
Just in case try to avoid keeping it with keys etc. Also check this .
Anyone here use the phone naked ( without the case ) or at lease with full body film protector? I am thinking to go case less because it adds weight and takes away the natural design/feel of the phone.
I use the phone with a slim case but to date I have not been able to find a screen protector that works. I am finding the tempered glass is far from perfect and leaves a very small pocket of space between it and the glass making me have to press harder in some areas to get the screen to respond. I hate to do it but I think I will have to use my S8 with no screen protector until someone can come up with a tempered glass protector that has glue all over instead of just around the edges.
I'm running an IQ Shield full skin. Fitment is spot on. It's got Front, back and all the sides covered.
Whitestone Dome Glass is a glass protector with adhesive all around. It's a complex process to apply, but if you get it right, it works. I have one here, but I haven't applied it. The glass is case friendly and covers slightly less that a full screen. I may use it at some point, though.
I generally always use phones naked out of appreciation for the design.
Too bad there's still no tempered glass protectors for curved screens so it's kinda risky..
Currently using naked and I find my finger gets sore from holding at bottom of phone by using one handed from the usb port so will be putting my case on soon for comfort.