Re-lock bootloader? - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I received my amazon white/bamboo X last week. I also had pre ordered a moto maker that I am to receive tomorrow.
I've already rooted/unlocked my bamboo one (stupid I know). The plan was to keep the one that I liked more. I've been reading good things about the moto maker backs as far as grip goes.
If I decide to send this bamboo one back, can I re-lock my bootloader? Do I even need to?
TIA
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There is already a thread on this here. As someone said though, the bootloader will show up as relocked rather than just locked, so Motorola will know it's been unlocked. You can probably just send it back unlocked and they will take care of it.

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64 gig version of Moto X now available.

64 gig version of Moto X now available on motomaker for U.S. users.
check it out.
https://www.motorola.com/us/motomaker?pid=FLEXR1#interior/memory
gammite said:
64 gig version of Moto X now available on motomaker for U.S. users.
check it out.
https://www.motorola.com/us/motomaker?pid=FLEXR1#interior/memory
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I only see the 32GB option.
Edit: Now i get 64GB. Niiice!
Well that sucks, earlier I got in on the Moto X for a penny trial thing, would have been nice to have had this one as an option.
This should have been available from the beginning.
Excited to see this, but it jumps to 499 at checkout and there isn't a 64GB developer edition. It kinda gives me a reason to get a custom one I guess. I'm also under the impression that this means that X+1 is going to take longer to release than I thought or Motorola has a buttload of MotoX shells to get rid of still. I gotta see how much I can sell my Developer edition for and I guess I'll decide to either jump on this or wait for the next one.
Edit. I went back to see if they fixed the checkout and realized that it isn't an error. $449 is for republic wireless. I guess they are subsidizing it slightly.
The Moto design site starts out at $449 for the 64gig version, then the select carrier page bumps you up to $499 for the GSM Unlocked version. What's that about?
It's $50 cheaper for the Republic Wireless version. Same for the 32 and 16GB versions too. It's been that way from the beginning I believe.
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Just remember.... No root.
KJ said:
Just remember.... No root.
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From what I have read the T-Mobile version can be rooted just as easily as the GSM Dev Edition. Unlocking the bootloader on the T-Mobile phone voids the warranty, unlike on the GSM Dev Edition. Other carriers may have the X locked down more.
marvin02 said:
From what I have read the T-Mobile version can be rooted just as easily as the GSM Dev Edition. Unlocking the bootloader on the T-Mobile phone voids the warranty, unlike on the GSM Dev Edition. Other carriers may have the X locked down more.
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Motomakers are what these are...no? I was sure they can't be unlocked.
And definitely republic wireless can't be.
I'm waiting on the 64GB unlocked GSM version from the 2 week trial. The unlocked gsm is the same as the T-Mobile version and the bootloader can be unlocked.
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So, correct me if I'm wrong: the GSM unlocked version (which still made me choose the AT&T/T-Mobile option to get the unlocked version) can or can not be rooted? I know it can be bootloader unlocked, at least according the Motorola bootloader unlocking page (I chose the T-Mobile version there and it shows as bootloader unlockable).
I mean, it's entirely possible that these trial phones will have their specific IMEI numbers (if you ordered one for the 14 day trial) added to some other entirely different internal blacklist that won't let us unlock them for the trial period, that's my concern.
I fully intend to do everything possible with this phone when I get it - that's what a trial period is for, and when it's shipped back (if it doesn't live up to my expectations) they can easily just reset it in a few minutes time (bootloader locked, restored to factory state, even alter the IMEI and program it with an entirely new one if they want, it's their damned device).
As long as I know it can be rooted and then bootloader unlocked so I can play around with some ROMs, I'm cool with that and could decide to keep it. If not, then I'll just toy with it and send it back - again, it's just a penny so it's not like I'm breaking the bank or anything.
br0adband said:
So, correct me if I'm wrong: the GSM unlocked version (which still made me choose the AT&T/T-Mobile option to get the unlocked version) can or can not be rooted? I know it can be bootloader unlocked, at least according the Motorola bootloader unlocking page (I chose the T-Mobile version there and it shows as bootloader unlockable).
I mean, it's entirely possible that these trial phones will have their specific IMEI numbers (if you ordered one for the 14 day trial) added to some other entirely different internal blacklist that won't let us unlock them for the trial period, that's my concern.
I fully intend to do everything possible with this phone when I get it - that's what a trial period is for, and when it's shipped back (if it doesn't live up to my expectations) they can easily just reset it in a few minutes time (bootloader locked, restored to factory state, even alter the IMEI and program it with an entirely new one if they want, it's their damned device).
As long as I know it can be rooted and then bootloader unlocked so I can play around with some ROMs, I'm cool with that and could decide to keep it. If not, then I'll just toy with it and send it back - again, it's just a penny so it's not like I'm breaking the bank or anything.
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They could see you unlocked the bootloader and send it back to you and charge you. If unlocking voids warranty, which it does on anything that's not a dev edition, then it may affect returning it too.
A possibility anyway.
KJ said:
Motomakers are what these are...no? I was sure they can't be unlocked.
And definitely republic wireless can't be.
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It depends on the carrier.
Verizon and ATT moto makers can't be unlocked. You are right, Replublic Wireless can't be unlocked.
However, Sprint and the "GSM Unlocked (ships with T-Mobile SIM)" variants can be. Some other carriers can too.
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br0adband said:
So, correct me if I'm wrong: the GSM unlocked version (which still made me choose the AT&T/T-Mobile option to get the unlocked version) can or can not be rooted? I know it can be bootloader unlocked, at least according the Motorola bootloader unlocking page (I chose the T-Mobile version there and it shows as bootloader unlockable).
I mean, it's entirely possible that these trial phones will have their specific IMEI numbers (if you ordered one for the 14 day trial) added to some other entirely different internal blacklist that won't let us unlock them for the trial period, that's my concern.
I fully intend to do everything possible with this phone when I get it - that's what a trial period is for, and when it's shipped back (if it doesn't live up to my expectations) they can easily just reset it in a few minutes time (bootloader locked, restored to factory state, even alter the IMEI and program it with an entirely new one if they want, it's their damned device).
As long as I know it can be rooted and then bootloader unlocked so I can play around with some ROMs, I'm cool with that and could decide to keep it. If not, then I'll just toy with it and send it back - again, it's just a penny so it's not like I'm breaking the bank or anything.
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If you do anything that voids the warranty while you are "trying it for $.01" they will likely refuse return.
If you are buying a Moto Maker X, unlocking its bootloader DOES void the warranty just by completing the action of requesting the code from Moto. You are submitting unique info to Moto about the phone you are unlocking, so expect they will know you have requested the unlock code.
And as for Moto can"easily" re-lock the bootloader, it depends on if its an eFuse or not. Using mFastboot, we can get the bootloader status to unlock and relock, not LOCK. If its an eFuse, moto likely can't set it back to lock without replacing components.
Can you get a developer edition for a penny? If so you do keep warranty for unlocking. I cannot verify whether or not they will accept the return, for that I would call Motorola and request confirmation in writing that they will accept the return even if you unlock the boot loader. If yes, get it, test it, if you like it send it back and order the Moto Maker one you want.
SymbioticGenius said:
Can you get a developer edition for a penny? If so you do keep warranty for unlocking. I cannot verify whether or not they will accept the return, for that I would call Motorola and request confirmation in writing that they will accept the return even if you unlock the boot loader. If yes, get it, test it, if you like it send it back and order the Moto Maker one you want.
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The "Try Then Buy" FAQ clearly stated that the regular non-Moto Maker version, the Moto Maker version, and the Dev Edition were all supposed to be available for that offer but I tried several times to get the Dev Edition and each time I punched in the promo code they sent me, it wouldn't apply the discount and the price remained $449 and change. After maybe 5 attempts, I decided to contact them using their "instant chat" support and the first time it said I was number 18 in the queue so I waited 14 minutes and when I got to being number 3 in the queue, it kicked me out and said their instant chat support was offline.
I waited a minute, reconnected to the chat support thing and it said I was number 27 with a wait time of 35 minutes so I said the hell with it and just ordered a Moto Maker edition, hence my question(s) above about rooting/unlocking.
For 14 days it's my phone, that's how the deal goes, so I'm going to use it as if it were my actual device, that's the only way I'm going to know if I want to actually keep it - I'll fire off an email to 'em when it arrives to clarify things, but if I do end up rooting it and unlocking the bootloader and then they refuse the return of the phone, well... guess I'll be getting it for free, who knows.
br0adband said:
The "Try Then Buy" FAQ clearly stated that the regular non-Moto Maker version, the Moto Maker version, and the Dev Edition were all supposed to be available for that offer but I tried several times to get the Dev Edition and each time I punched in the promo code they sent me, it wouldn't apply the discount and the price remained $449 and change. After maybe 5 attempts, I decided to contact them using their "instant chat" support and the first time it said I was number 18 in the queue so I waited 14 minutes and when I got to being number 3 in the queue, it kicked me out and said their instant chat support was offline.
I waited a minute, reconnected to the chat support thing and it said I was number 27 with a wait time of 35 minutes so I said the hell with it and just ordered a Moto Maker edition, hence my question(s) above about rooting/unlocking.
For 14 days it's my phone, that's how the deal goes, so I'm going to use it as if it were my actual device, that's the only way I'm going to know if I want to actually keep it - I'll fire off an email to 'em when it arrives to clarify things, but if I do end up rooting it and unlocking the bootloader and then they refuse the return of the phone, well... guess I'll be getting it for free, who knows.
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I'm sure they won't let you have it free. Lol
And yes, you will void the warranty.... And therefore probably void your chance to return it.
Remember.....us rooters are a very....very tiny fraction of their customers. They don't think of us when they make deals, or rules or promos.....most will try it, not change a single thing and keep it or return it. Then WE come along, void its warranty and try to return it. Nope....not happening. You own it now. Pay up. Or bye bye imei. And now you own a pretty paperweight.
And.....if moto is smart, which they seem to be, any device on this promo....no matter the carrier....won't be eligible to unlock on their site. Didn't think of that one....did we. I'm betting they won't be eligible to unlock on motos site, not until the deal is done and you keep it. ?
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Also....come on now....you don't NEED root to know if you like a device. Lol
Very valid points KJ. Sad thing is I've had root since day one and I barely use apps that require it anymore. With the recent updates and the ability to disable apps without TiBu my battery life is fine so the only thing I've used root for is kernel tweaks.
Try the phone, if you even remotely like it without root, you'll like it that much more with it.
SymbioticGenius said:
Very valid points KJ. Sad thing is I've had root since day one and I barely use apps that require it anymore. With the recent updates and the ability to disable apps without TiBu the only thing I've used root for is kernel tweaks.
Try the phone, if you even remotely like it without root, you'll like it that much more with it.
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I'd die without root. Lol. Luckily I research first and would never own a device I can't root.
Yeah, I don't get the attitude about its mine for 14 days. Its yours to TRY they are saying. Taking it apart physically or unlocking boot loaders and messing with the system is not something they will be happy about. They'll just laugh, send it back to you and say congrats on your new purchase. Lol.
KJ said:
I'd die without root. Lol. Luckily I research first and would never own a device I can't root.
Yeah, I don't get the attitude about its mine for 14 days. Its yours to TRY they are saying. Taking it apart physically or unlocking boot loaders and messing with the system is not something they will be happy about. They'll just laugh, send it back to you and say congrats on your new purchase. Lol.
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I would never own a phone without an unlockable boot loader. Until the Nexus5 all my phones had CM and I bought my phones based on having a stable-ish build. I understand your point.
I think I should teach many of you in here something my father taught me as a kid.
If something isn't yours return it how you found it. If you break it, you replace it.
Otherwise known as "you break it, you bought it."

Received 2 phones

I think I accidentally received 2 phones. Verizon shipped me one, then 2 weeks later I got my customized version through MotoMaker. I haven't received anything asking to send back the one from Verizon.
What should I do? Part of me would like to donate the phone to a dev, but I'm scared as well. I don't want to be charged later on down the road.
I would wait few days and then donate to me Just kidding, to some good dev who's really going to develop for the device. I have one on my mind, I can ask him. He was porting kernel for my older phone and currently working as Android developer.
Btw, about which device we're talking about? I'm really hopping is Force. Should be, your carrier is Sprint.
Edit: Didn't read carefully, "Verizon shipped..."
VanillaG0rilla said:
I think I accidentally received 2 phones. Verizon shipped me one, then 2 weeks later I got my customized version through MotoMaker. I haven't received anything asking to send back the one from Verizon.
What should I do? Part of me would like to donate the phone to a dev, but I'm scared as well. I don't want to be charged later on down the road.
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I would suggest sending the one back to Verizon. Somewhere down the line you WILL be charged FULL retail price for it and they will ask you to pay up. They have the imei number in their system and they will know exactly where and to whom they shipped that phone out to. It's only a matter of time before they will bill you for it.
At the least I would call Verizon and tell them the situation and take it from there.
Call Verizon and verify that you aren't going to get charged. Don't assume, as sometimes it can take months for them to find it, and if/when they do they WILL charge you...
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Carrier is no longer Sprint...just haven't updated. It is not the force, it's the droid turbo2.
Good advice....will definitely call Verizon. It would've been nice to help a dev get root for this thing though.
give to Jcase or sunshine for bl unlock..

Joining the Turbo 2 wagon

Just ordered it on eBay. As far as I know, it's unlocked and does not have the Verizon logo. Will I be able to root it?
I've read great reviews on this phone, and hence ordered it. But, the overall picture on this forum looks grim.
What do I need to know? What are the first things I should do after getting it?
srk999 said:
Just ordered it on eBay. As far as I know, it's unlocked and does not have the Verizon logo. Will I be able to root it?
I've read great reviews on this phone, and hence ordered it. But, the overall picture on this forum looks grim.
What do I need to know? What are the first things I should do after getting it?
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If it's unlocked and does not have the Version logo then its the moto force x , and yes you can root it , droid turbo 2 does not have root.
srk999 said:
What do I need to know? What are the first things I should do after getting it?
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Hopefully you've ordered Moto X Force. First charge it, put your sim, sd card (if you have), turn it on, install apps and enjoy. If you you wish, you can unlock bootloader first. Because procedure will do factory reset your phone but I have Force for about half of the year and this is my very first Android phone, including nexus, running stock, locked bl and no rooted.
I think we are in the same boat.
I bought the Droid Turbo 2 on Ebay from a Chinese seller. He said it's factory unlocked and It isn't the Verizon version.
Looking at the details it looks like Droid Turbo 2(xt1585 and bands are not as X Force).
I don't know if they are selling X Force as Droid Turbo 2 or they get the Verizon phore direct from factory without the logo but this put me think on what about updates.
What is in about? Maybe they got them directly from factory.
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it dt2 with boot loader unlocked m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=521809261322&spm=0.0.0.0
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No way to unlock the phone without bootloader unlock?

Pardon me for asking this question if it has been asked. I just came back from a loooooooooooooooong vacation and my moto G4 has been waiting for me since 07/12, yes, I left the country on the 11th
Per my reading, it looks like the bootloader is NOT unlockable since sometime back in July. Does that mean there won't be any chance to unlock the phone? Even in the future?
TIA
ddyourself said:
Pardon me for asking this question if it has been asked. I just came back from a loooooooooooooooong vacation and my moto G4 has been waiting for me since 07/12, yes, I left the country on the 11th
Per my reading, it looks like the bootloader is NOT unlockable since sometime back in July. Does that mean there won't be any chance to unlock the phone? Even in the future?
TIA
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If you have the Amazon version (with the Amazon bloatware), that is correct, it can no longer be bootloader unlocked.
If you have the Moto-direct version (with no Amazon bloatware), you can bootloader unlock it still.

one plus 6t refub tmobel safe to buy & unlock bootloader?

I think I really want the oneplus 6t I see there is a problem in unlocking the boot loader
I dont care about the sim lock as im using tmobel all ready.
I do see some guides as a work around. I really want to unlock the boot loader as soon as I get the phone.
Any problems with my idea? (yes I did search before asking better to be on the safe side. I just returned a google pixel because I figured the boot loader could be unlocked)
I see amazon is around 265$ us ebay and swappa about $240.
amazon is much easier to return if its a bad esn or any thing like that. Any other idea were I may get it for cheaper than 250$ ish?
or is that just the going rate. I know black Friday is a few weeks away.
Thanks for taking the time to read my post
Its very safe, just buy, convert, unlock bootloader and enjoy. Am Currently using one?
Can't you just buy an unlocked one on Swappa?
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Easy as it gets
I have the TMobile OnePlus 6t. Called the TMobile Twitter support team and they unlocked it the very same day I bought it. Got my info I needed and 2 hours later I was unlocked and converted to international with root and twrp.

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