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Hi there,
I am debating if I should root my Atrix or not. I checked out few posts and they seem a bit complecated. Also, I found this article saying carriers will track down rooted devices and restricted services.
By the way, can I still install some of Motorola o/s for dock stations? I have a multimedia and a car dock.
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...rooting-manufacturers-carriers.html#post65013
Any thoughts?
No one will track you down and restrict you. And it's very safe to root.
Just for apps like Adfree which kills advertisements, this is reason enough for me to root! Not to mention super helpful things like customer recovery to back things up, the ability to sideload (install non-market apps if you're on AT&T), etc.
Android is quite open source but rooting opens up another amazing realm of extremely essential apps.
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No one will track you down and restrict you. And it's very safe to root.
Just for apps like Adfree which kills advertisements, this is reason enough for me to root! Not to mention super helpful things like customer recovery to back things up, the ability to sideload (install non-market apps if you're on AT&T), etc.
Android is quite open source but rooting opens up another amazing realm of extremely essential apps.
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I will take your word for it then! Just kidding. Would you be able recommend any good root techniques on the forum? I think there are few methods and am not sure which one is the best.
Thank you!
I say root it. I rooted mine and i love it this way. I had mine for only two days before I rooted it. I was a little nervous at first and felt that i really didnt want to do it, but the benefits were too great with a rooted phone than without a rooted phone. I am on the AT&T network and i hate it when someone tries to tell me what I can't do with something I purchased. Trust me when i say that you are going to want software that is not in the market as well.
And... I really, really love the fact that I don't need to be docked to use my WebTop.
Again... i say root it.
janggu said:
I will take your word for it then! Just kidding. Would you be able recommend any good root techniques on the forum? I think there are few methods and am not sure which one is the best.
Thank you!
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Gladroot. It's the easiest and can enable tethering and sideloading as well.
You must be on 1.2.6 to root. You can run their first script which will root it. You can then do AT&T's download and run their second script which will root that too. BOOM!
It shouldn't take any longer than 10 minutes.
Well... there was that one thing where AT&T is supposedly locking out, or might be locking out phones that have been determined to be rooted. But the fact of the matter is, if they do that with absolutely no reason other than the phone being rooted, i'm sure you'll see a class action lawsuit about it since rooting/jailbreaking a cell phone is legal now according to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. The only reason i can see them disabling service is if you root it, and use one of the alternate methods of tethering, and wind up using a TON of bandwidth.... well over what anyone would even remotely do on just the phone if they didn't have any tethering package or way to tether. Then you'd basically be using their networks in a way that could be deemed illegal. But there's no issue with just rooting it to use applications not approved by the carrier or phone manufacturer.
Would you want to be admin on your own computer?
I think rooting is a must. The use of sideloading alone is worth it. I would hate to not be able to use the Amazon Appstore, Ive really come to like it.
One thing to mention though. The Blockbuster app detects root and wont allow content to be purchased because of DRM concerns. I dont know if this will be a problem with future apps.
Yeah, I did!
I rooted my Atrix with "gladroot" last night. Can't wait to customize it now.
Thank you very much for your valid inputs everyone!!!
Where are these non market apps that everyone speaks of
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One thing to mention though. The Blockbuster app detects root....
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What's Blockbuster? ;-)
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I know right. I was just using that as an example. Never know what might be blocked next.
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I know some people will wonder why I'm asking but this would be the first time I'm thinking of rooting and I wouldn't mind getting an idea of what it allows me to do with the phone. Thanks!
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This is the development thread ask it in q & a thread.
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Pros:
"Free" Wifi Tethering (Allows you to use phone as a Hotspot for internet)
Delete Carrier Bloatware
Eliminate Banner Ads
Backup Everything on Your Phone
Make Your Phone Run Faster (By overclocking CPU etc)
Increase Your Battery Life (By installing custom and/or underclocking CPU)
Run Any App You Like
Move/Run Apps for SD-Card (with apps like Foldermount)
Cons:
Voids Your Warranty
Overclocking Can Cause Damage
Some apps wont work with root (EG: Banking apps, Sky Go etc)
Easy to Brick your Phone (If not done correctly)
Will Make Your Phone Less Stable (If not done correctly)
Rooting Could Become Illegal
May Prevent You from Getting Updates
There all loads more reason but these are the main ones.
Titanium Pro backup All the reason I need to root
crimptool said:
Titanium Pro backup All the reason I need to root
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+1
Zultrax-UK said:
Pros:
"Free" Wifi Tethering (Allows you to use phone as a Hotspot for internet)
Delete Carrier Bloatware
Eliminate Banner Ads
Backup Everything on Your Phone
Make Your Phone Run Faster (By overclocking CPU etc)
Increase Your Battery Life (By installing custom and/or underclocking CPU)
Run Any App You Like
Move/Run Apps for SD-Card (with apps like Foldermount)
Cons:
Voids Your Warranty
Overclocking Can Cause Damage
Some apps wont work with root (EG: Banking apps, Sky Go etc)
Easy to Brick your Phone (If not done correctly)
Will Make Your Phone Less Stable (If not done correctly)
Rooting Could Become Illegal
May Prevent You from Getting Updates
There all loads more reason but these are the main ones.
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This is a very good list. I would just add one more PRO: rooting lets you buy a new phone more often (because you brick your old ones more often)
Seriously, one of the main reasons to root for me personally is to get rid of the banner ads for phones I prepare for older people who are prone to clicking on the banners and installing spam as the result.
Basically rooting is for people who like tinkering with their hardware.
OP, since you asked the question, I assume you have not rooted before, you should read up more about this, and maybe wait a few more days, to make sure rooting methods are stable, and you are fully familiar with the procedure. Believe me you do not want your phone accidentally bricked.
If you want some of the benefits of rooting such as the blocking banner ads you can unroot after changing the hosts file.
ill hold on rooting for now due to the cons. I dont want to break my first Droid :silly:
agree, and right now there is no full rooting toolkit for the s4 so I'll probably wait as well
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ill hold on rooting for now due to the cons. I dont want to break my first Droid :silly:
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i personally plan to wait 4-6 months before rooting... i can download stuff straight to my phone now cause of my huge sd card whereas before i would need to tether to my pc... also 9 gigs is enough for all the apps i run... i tend to be more minimalistic when it comes to downloading games etc...
so, for now i'll be fine without rooting just in case something goes wrong with it & i need to use the manufacturers warranty.
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This is a very good list. I would just add one more PRO: rooting lets you buy a new phone more often (because you brick your old ones more often)
Seriously, one of the main reasons to root for me personally is to get rid of the banner ads for phones I prepare for older people who are prone to clicking on the banners and installing spam as the result.
Basically rooting is for people who like tinkering with their hardware.
OP, since you asked the question, I assume you have not rooted before, you should read up more about this, and maybe wait a few more days, to make sure rooting methods are stable, and you are fully familiar with the procedure. Believe me you do not want your phone accidentally bricked.
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haha...nice words.
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agree, and right now there is no full rooting toolkit for the s4 so I'll probably wait as well
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I an waiting for tool kit because I'm not confident enough to do it with the current methods
How long before we can expect tool kits?
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I feel as though unless your experienced the current root methods are not noob friendly at all
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crimptool said:
Titanium Pro backup All the reason I need to root
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Yeah me too. But as far as i can say, I have old Galaxy S rooted, my banking apps work fine. Dont know which banking app does that root check. Remind me not to open an account, apply for credit card, take loans from that bank! :silly:
Apps no longer able to enable/disable the cellular radio without root
Rooting S4 (and all others phones) with JB 4.2.x IMHO is absolutely necessary as Google has removed the possibility for profile-manager apps to control the ON/OFF state of the cellular radio.
Unfortunately many serious users relying on time or location based profile switch are now out of luck!
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40497
It is not easy to brick your phone. You have to not pay attention, not follow directions, and use no common sense to get there. By that last I mean you should avoid unproven root methods unless you are willing to take the risks involved that such trail blazers face.
I'm not saying that rooting is right for anyone but those with a functional brain and the ability to read and follow simple directions should have a problem free experience. A couple basics, read the directions, all of them. Make absolutely sure that this procedure is the correct procedure for your specific handset. Do not be brave, it's no fun looking at a phone that won't boot when you lack the experience to deal with it so stick with what's proven. If you are not sure after reading up on the procedure, ask. No one wants to spoon feed the lazy but learning means asking questions sometimes so having read the material do not hesitate to ask if a part of the process is unclear.
I see there is a thread abt a reward for who ever makes an exploit to root the turbo.
I have an upgrade available but I don't want to waste it on a phone that can't even be rooted. Another thing is that this decision is on limited time. Because once the turbo gets lollipop , rooting will be out the window . so if you wait to long to get the turbo and it's shipped from the factory with lollipop, your screwed from the get go. So judging by the older lines of "moto droids" do you think or have read anything online abt development being slim to none?
Or any future plans on a developers edition ?
The nexus 6 is just to big for me. And the moto x is just not for me
Yeah i dont think so..This community is pretty inactive.
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Yeah i dont think so..This community is pretty inactive.
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I see there is a thread abt a reward for who ever makes an exploit to root the turbo.
I have an upgrade available but I don't want to waste it on a phone that can't even be rooted. Another thing is that this decision is on limited time. Because once the turbo gets lollipop , rooting will be out the window . so if you wait to long to get the turbo and it's shipped from the factory with lollipop, your screwed from the get go. So judging by the older lines of "moto droids" do you think or have read anything online abt development being slim to none?
Or any future plans on a developers edition ?
The nexus 6 is just to big for me. And the moto x is just not for me
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You are forgetting that there is another variant of the Turbo, the Maxx one that will come with unlockable bootloader and free of Verizon crap. People will make it their way to get on of those, and probably development will be significantly more active that with Turbo.
On the other hand, Lollipop doesn't mean no more root, there are already devices with Lollipop and gained root few days ago, so it shouldn't be a worry.
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Correct about root and lollipop but what's the point? Why do you NEED root and unlocked boot loader when lollipop gets here? Xposed won't work. Lollipop will be the os that negates the need for root.
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rhouse1983 said:
Correct about root and lollipop but what's the point? Why do you NEED root and unlocked boot loader when lollipop gets here? Xposed won't work. Lollipop will be the os that negates the need for root.
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Xposed doesn't work yet, but likely will in the future. And there are other things to use root for than just Xposed. Such as Tasker, AdFree, Cerberus, etc. Root works great on my Nexus 7 with Lollipop, albeit without Xposed.
I mainly want/need root for ARLiberator or ARUnchained. Right now I can cast to my receiver and get sound but ARU gave full mirroring and allowed me to control my phone through my headunit (with root). Combined with Tasker to automate and it was fantastic. Xposed was real nice to have and I'm sure it will be updated for L at some point but I wasn't really using a whole lot on there I'll miss. Same goes for battery tweaker like Greenify. It was awesome with root and combined with Xposed but w/ the monster battery on this thing and the improvements with Project Volta I'm thinking I won't miss it so much.
Just want root access to freeze the VZW crap. My 2 cents.
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Just want root access to freeze the VZW crap. My 2 cents.
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You can disable those apps now which is essentially the same thing.
Disable works just as good
Hadn't tried that. Just hid them using a launcher. OK, I'll disable them. Gracias!
I don't think it's hopeless. Just look at the bounty. No, it's no guarantee a dev will obtain that full amount but it show's that we're interested.
My guess and hope is that the Middle Man will come back and we'll be able to get unlock codes. It's our best shot.
In the meantime I'll stay at KitKat and cross my fingers. Root for me will give me custom DPI's which 4.7"+ phones need so badly. Besides that I'm doing just fine without root. Yeah, a few customization options would be fine but stock Motorola Android flies!
Only thing I really want/need is WiFi Tether. I've managed to tether using a USB but the process is way more complex and only allows for one device at a time.
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Without root you cannot manipulate the hosts file meaning you cannot block ads completely as you can with root. This alone is enough to make root worthwhile for me because I despise ads. I also like to change fonts at the system level and make many other customizations that require root and lollipop in no way negates those needs.
Not that my opinion or likes and dislikes matter. And that's the thing, people who say root is not needed speak for themselves just as I speak for myself and no one else. I don't ever say YOU need root or YOU do not need root because I have no business deciding what someone else does or does not need. Just saying...
I just think it's going to take some time gents. Phone has been out for what? Two weeks?
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Only thing I really want/need is WiFi Tether. I've managed to tether using a USB but the process is way more complex and only allows for one device at a time.
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Agreed. This is the on thing I really want. I can live without the rest of the stuff. If I could pay for an app that worked for wifi tether I would do that and probably be happy without root all together.
I had the RAZR maxx HD. I thought we'd never get root for the longest time. It took a while - a bunch of months, at least, but we got it.
Now, the maxx HD never was nearly as popular as the droid turbo. That's a fact.
I'm sure someone out there will find a way. It's not about if, but when. That's my opinion, at least
2 things I want root for..
Messing with speaker output
And shutter speed of the camera
This phone will probably never be rooted, but if you aren't okay with that then why would you ever buy this device?
Maybe I'm not understanding this, but why is a developers edition needed? Why dont you just unlock developer mode on the phone you get? I did.
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I see there is a thread abt a reward for who ever makes an exploit to root the turbo.
I have an upgrade available but I don't want to waste it on a phone that can't even be rooted. Another thing is that this decision is on limited time. Because once the turbo gets lollipop , rooting will be out the window . so if you wait to long to get the turbo and it's shipped from the factory with lollipop, your screwed from the get go. So judging by the older lines of "moto droids" do you think or have read anything online abt development being slim to none?
Or any future plans on a developers edition ?
The nexus 6 is just to big for me. And the moto x is just not for me
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What makes you think L will be any worse than the latest 4.4.4. I think its a crap shoot it could happen either way. Do You Feel Lucky? HaHa
Personally I would give the root bounty to Kingroot if they gave us the keys so we could root without having to be connected to the internet.
Root on Demand, even if it is temporary is better than permanent root in some respects.
If we had permanent root some of the phones features would stop working like My Knox Security and Samsung pay and some others apps won't work with root but they will work with Kingroot.
The two problems I see with Kingroot are First, Security, we don't know what information we are sharing with them. I don't like being connected to their server with a rooted phone.. And second, Reliability, they could shut the whole system down any time they get ready and we would have no recourse.
If the Kingroot team would give us the keys and the source code so we could understand how to roots our own phones, I would agree to give them the bounty. I only speak for myself and do not represent anyone connected to the Root Bounty for the Verizon Note 4 on XDA.
P.S. I have updated the updated the first and second post at Kingroot on top of My KNOX, Working Great! !
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Personally I would give the root bounty to Kingroot if they gave us the keys so we could root without having to be connected to the internet.
Root on Demand, even if it is temporary is better than permanent root in some respects.
If we had permanent root some of the phones features would stop working like My Knox Security and Samsung pay and some others apps won't work with root but they will work with Kingroot.
The two problems I see with Kingroot are First, Security, we don't know what information we are sharing with them. I don't like being connected to their server with a rooted phone.. And second, Reliability, they could shut the whole system down any time they get ready and we would have no recourse.
If the Kingroot team would give us the keys and the source code so we could understand how to roots our own phones, I would agree to give them the bounty. I only speak for myself and do not represent anyone connected to the Root Bounty for the Verizon Note 4 on XDA.
P.S. I have updated the updated the first and second post at Kingroot on top of My KNOX, Working Great! !
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whats the point of this post? They tell you what information they take and what they do with it already.
Why release their source so others can take it and make their own root tool without need of info and with supersu thus eliminating the need for their tool altogether?
Not to mention the universal exploit doesnt work on all devices so surely they have other root exploits available in those situations that some of us dont need builtt into the app.
And lastly, they alreafy released the recent exploit and how to do it at blackhat so devs can already make their own root tool using the same exploit as king root as it is.
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whats the point of this post? They tell you what information they take and what they do with it already.
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And I'm just suppose to take their word for it.............Please
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And I'm just suppose to take their word for it.............Please
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thats all you got to go off lol. until theyve been proven of wrong doing you shouldnt accuse them
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thats all you got to go off lol. until theyve been proven of wrong doing you shouldnt accuse them
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I'm not accusing them of anything but for all we know they could be part of the Chinese Government building a data base. Then when they need to they could take control of our phones. Turn the cameras on or anything. Look at all the resent hacks into government systems. Can't be to careful.
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I'm not accusing them of anything but for all we know they could be part of the Chinese Government building a data base. Then when they need to they could take control of our phones. Turn the cameras on or anything. Look at all the resent hacks into government systems. Can't be to careful.
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lol theres always hacking of govt systems and im sure the us govt we need to worry about more than foreign governments.. the NSA and the likes most likely already do that and more without anyones knowledge.
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I don't know about giving them the bounty for the info, but I'll never root my phone using such a sketchy method, temporary, permanent, or whatever else.
nh97103 said:
I don't know about giving them the bounty for the info, but I'll never root my phone using such a sketchy method, temporary, permanent, or whatever else.
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lol the op of this thread clearly uses king root as do many others.. but luckily everyone can make their own choice.. i for one dont mind at all and nothing negative has happened to anyone at this point by using king root minus a few apps dont work with their binaries.
no one is going after ping pong root which obviously works in a very similar fashion.. your device needs to be supported and you have to download the data off the cloud as well as they use the same exploit.
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From the website http://www.kingoapp.com/faq.htm
"We manage to obtain root privilege of Android by exploiting certain undisclosed vulnerabilities, which we believe would be patched in no time once made public. And that would dysfunction this software that we've worked so hard for."
Yea right..It has already been patched in LP......
Give us the Keys
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From the website http://www.kingoapp.com/faq.htm
"We manage to obtain root privilege of Android by exploiting certain undisclosed vulnerabilities, which we believe would be patched in no time once made public. And that would dysfunction this software that we've worked so hard for."
Yea right..It has already been patched in LP......
Give us the Keys
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you do realise that isnt even king root right?
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i definitely agree with kingo root.. i tried on my tablet and it installs all kinds of crapware and ads apps that i had a hard time getting rid of.. they would even install after i deleted them and in the end it didnt even root my tablet lol
but that is a completely dif. tool/team than kingroot
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you do realise that isnt even king root right?
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i definitely agree with kingo root.. i tried on my tablet and it installs all kinds of crapware and ads apps that i had a hard time getting rid of.. they would even install after i deleted them and in the end it didnt even root my tablet lol
but that is a completely dif. tool/team than kingroot
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Just realized, your right. But why would King root provide a free service. It'seems not just to be nice?
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Just realized, your right. But why would King root provide a free service. It'seems not just to be nice?
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no root tool has charged besides sunshine to my knowledge.. donations are appreciated but technically king root works for a security firm so surely its a hobby and their job to find exploits.. plus xda rules are somewhat tricky.. theres lots on xda ppl dont charge for.
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I'm not accusing them of anything but for all we know they could be part of the Chinese Government building a data base. Then when they need to they could take control of our phones. Turn the cameras on or anything. Look at all the resent hacks into government systems. Can't be to careful.
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Then you should NEVER root your phone! Don't you realize that rooting under any method leaves your phone open to be hacked? There is no such thing as safe rooting. Even with Chainfire's Supersu...if you want your phone secure you need to root, make the changes you want then unroot quickly. It is also true that rooting via an unknown source like Kingroot or any of the other methods that have passed through in the last year or so, is even more dangerous..all of those requiring internet connections to root? It is a question you always need to ask yourself...how bad do you want root and what are you willing to risk.
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Then you should NEVER root your phone! Don't you realize that rooting under any method leaves your phone open to be hacked? There is no such thing as safe rooting. Even with Chainfire's Supersu...if you want your phone secure you need to root, make the changes you want then unroot quickly. It is also true that rooting via an unknown source like Kingroot or any of the other methods that have passed through in the last year or so, is even more dangerous..all of those requiring internet connections to root? It is a question you always need to ask yourself...how bad do you want root and what are you willing to risk.
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there's a slight difference between being open to a hack and being connected to a hacker's server with a rooted phone. They have your ip connected. What more could they ask for?
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there's a slight difference between being open to a hack and being connected to a hacker's server with a rooted phone. They have your ip connected. What more could they ask for?
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So does every site you go to and all apps that transfer data online..including games that keep track of high scores. Do you have the source code for all of those? What if they check for root then alter your phone? If you are going to put on the tin foil hat...go all out. Rooting is very dangerous.
But you are right to be wary of these Johnny-come-lately root methods. Again people should consider heavily how much are they willing to risk by rooting...even more so that which requires an internet connection.
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Then you should NEVER root your phone! Don't you realize that rooting under any method leaves your phone open to be hacked? There is no such thing as safe rooting. Even with Chainfire's Supersu...if you want your phone secure you need to root, make the changes you want then unroot quickly. It is also true that rooting via an unknown source like Kingroot or any of the other methods that have passed through in the last year or so, is even more dangerous..all of those requiring internet connections to root? It is a question you always need to ask yourself...how bad do you want root and what are you willing to risk.
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Don't all changes to the system need to be allowed by the superuser app? Also I use Adfree Android. It provides a hosts file that blocks you from going to all known malicious websites. Doesn't that give at least a pretty good measure of safety. And what about antivirus?
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Don't all changes to the system need to be allowed by the superuser app? Also I use Adfree Android. It provides a hosts file that blocks you from going to all known malicious websites. Doesn't that give at least a pretty good measure of safety.
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There are ways around that...especially if it is an unknown superuser app...we have some faith in Chainfire and his Supersu catching all requests..but as the OP stated...how do we know with unknown quantities how well their app catches superuser requests. Like rooting in general, exploits in apps can be found too. This makes you think then...what if the source is posted? Will that make it easier for hackers to find back doors?
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There are ways around that...especially if it is an unknown superuser app...we have some faith in Chainfire and his Supersu catching all requests..but as the OP stated...how do we know with unknown quantities how well their app catches superuser requests. Like rooting in general, exploits in apps can be found too. This makes you think then...what if the source is posted? Will that make it easier for hackers to find back doors?
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Yeah I'm sure you're right. Isn't hacking something that antivirus providers are working against? Or maybe there's a firewall or a sandboxing procedure that could help?
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Yeah I'm sure you're right. Isn't hacking something that antivirus providers are working against? Or maybe there's a firewall or a sandboxing procedure that could help?
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The sandbox is to use the "Personal" side of My Knox Security as a Playground as described here Kingroot on top of My KNOX, Working Great! !
This.
If anyone trust them and wants to connect to their honey trap...thats on them.
Some people seem crazy to do this just to get rooted
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there's a slight difference between being open to a hack and being connected to a hacker's server with a rooted phone. They have your ip connected. What more could they ask for?
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Long story short I haven't unlocked my bootloader to root my phone yet, since ZTE are offering virtually zero support and haven't even supplied a factory image (WTF!), so I don't have a properly working method to block ads.
This makes YouTube absolutely worthless to me, I'm not going to watch a 30 second ad about something I probably hate with a fiery passion in order to watch a 2 minute video. Just simply browsing the web has become painful and indescribably annoying.
So is there any (actually effective) method out there which I can use to block the cancer of the internet known as advertisements without having root? Will ZTE ever do what every other company does and offer some bare minimum support for the community? If I knew ZTE were going to be this horrible about support I wouldn't have even bought the phone to begin with.
Cyrus D. said:
Long story short I haven't unlocked my bootloader to root my phone yet, since ZTE are offering virtually zero support and haven't even supplied a factory image (WTF!), so I don't have a properly working method to block ads.
This makes YouTube absolutely worthless to me, I'm not going to watch a 30 second ad about something I probably hate with a fiery passion in order to watch a 2 minute video. Just simply browsing the web has become painful and indescribably annoying.
So is there any (actually effective) method out there which I can use to block the cancer of the internet known as advertisements without having root? Will ZTE ever do what every other company does and offer some bare minimum support for the community? If I knew ZTE were going to be this horrible about support I wouldn't have even bought the phone to begin with.
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Try Adguard, works like a charm
Gachmuret said:
Try Adguard, works like a charm
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And it won't steal my info????
Cyrus D. said:
Long story short I haven't unlocked my bootloader to root my phone yet, since ZTE are offering virtually zero support and haven't even supplied a factory image (WTF!), so I don't have a properly working method to block ads.
This makes YouTube absolutely worthless to me, I'm not going to watch a 30 second ad about something I probably hate with a fiery passion in order to watch a 2 minute video. Just simply browsing the web has become painful and indescribably annoying.
So is there any (actually effective) method out there which I can use to block the cancer of the internet known as advertisements without having root? Will ZTE ever do what every other company does and offer some bare minimum support for the community? If I knew ZTE were going to be this horrible about support I wouldn't have even bought the phone to begin with.
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I had my Axon 7 rooted and xposed working perfectly WAYYYYYYY before I unlocked it. And I am willing to bet that if you look in the rest of this wonderful XDA section you will find a posting or two about root without bootloader unlock, and the first step is making a backup so if something does go wrong you can use your backup!
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It's paid only in order to block ads in apps and it's not even a one time purchase, it's an annual license. I won't purchase licenses which expire for Android apps. For now I have the free version installed, but the fact that it gives a warning stating that it's reported battery or data usage will be false (other application's stats will supposedly be recorded as AdGuard's) makes it suspicious to even begin with.
tabletalker7 said:
I had my Axon 7 rooted and xposed working perfectly WAYYYYYYY before I unlocked it. And I am willing to bet that if you look in the rest of this wonderful XDA section you will find a posting or two about root without bootloader unlock, and the first step is making a backup so if something does go wrong you can use your backup!
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The last time I checked on rooting without unlocking it was super convoluted and there were reports of people left and right bricking things.
- What do I even backup with and can it even be done fully without having root in the first place?
- Can it use ZTE's OTA updates without bricking if that's done?
- Is it actually a full proper root?
Cyrus D. said:
It's paid only in order to block ads in apps and it's not even a one time purchase, it's an annual license. I won't purchase licenses which expire for Android apps. For now I have the free version installed, but the fact that it gives a warning stating that it's reported battery or data usage will be false (other application's stats will supposedly be recorded as AdGuard's) makes it suspicious to even begin with.
The last time I checked on rooting without unlocking it was super convoluted and there were reports of people left and right bricking things.
- What do I even backup with and can it even be done fully without having root in the first place?
- Can it use ZTE's OTA updates without bricking if that's done?
- Is it actually a full proper root?
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It worked for me. On the forum for Axon 7 root without unlock the first thing you do is make a backup of the boot and recovery. You can flash those with the same program used to root it and install TWRP. After that we also have a forum here with full stock roms that you can flash with TWRP just to unbrick and they work.
I live in Spain, have a Play Music subscription (YouTube RED isn't available here... *sigh*) and have installed AdGuard two days ago to get rid of those stupid, stupid commercials, but it seriously messed up my battery info.
I would reach around 20% battery and the phone would just turn off. Completely drained. Kaput. Happened twice with full charge with original charger and cable (I thought my Moto X's QC2 had broken something, but it's the app after all).
I have it set up on manual mode now, so that I can activate it outside home and avoid YouTube's commercials and consequent date plan limit (even if I'm a paying customer! Dang it Google!!!).
The non-Play Store versions of Lightning Browser (free) have built-in adblock. You can get it from the developer's github or from F-Droid. It also has a dark theme that's perfect for AMOLED screens like the Axon 7's.
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Cyrus D. said:
Long story short I haven't unlocked my bootloader to root my phone yet, since ZTE are offering virtually zero support and haven't even supplied a factory image (WTF!), so I don't have a properly working method to block ads.
This makes YouTube absolutely worthless to me, I'm not going to watch a 30 second ad about something I probably hate with a fiery passion in order to watch a 2 minute video. Just simply browsing the web has become painful and indescribably annoying.
So is there any (actually effective) method out there which I can use to block the cancer of the internet known as advertisements without having root? Will ZTE ever do what every other company does and offer some bare minimum support for the community? If I knew ZTE were going to be this horrible about support I wouldn't have even bought the phone to begin with.
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I really cannot fathom why you're equating "ZTE stepping up" with "root". Because AFAIK, no OEM actively supports rooting their phones.
So what it comes down to is your unwillingness to root your phone using the proven method available here on XDA. It sounds like you're afraid for some reason, which I don't understand because it's virtually impossible to hard brick your phone at this point, assuming you can follow simple instructions.
AdAway works just fine on my A2017U running B27 and was the single biggest reason I rooted my phone in the first place. My bootloader is still locked, as well.
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I really cannot fathom why you're equating "ZTE stepping up" with "root". Because AFAIK, no OEM actively supports rooting their phones.
So what it comes down to is your unwillingness to root your phone using the proven method available here on XDA. It sounds like you're afraid for some reason, which I don't understand because it's virtually impossible to hard brick your phone at this point, assuming you can follow simple instructions.
AdAway works just fine on my A2017U running B27 and was the single biggest reason I rooted my phone in the first place. My bootloader is still locked, as well.
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Gotta ask, adaway fails with my axon, I figured it was since we have the systemless root, how did you get it to work?
It's not ZTE's job to block ads for you. Most vendor-specific flavors of android don't offer built-in ad blocking. If you want to complain to anyone, complain to Google for not allowing extensions in Chrome. They're lagging behind IOS there.
Use adguard like others have suggested, or root your phone if you want deeper ad blocking.
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Gotta ask, adaway fails with my axon, I figured it was since we have the systemless root, how did you get it to work?
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Adaway works with systemless root.
If you turn off /system write protection, you can use adaway fine, but it modifies /system.
If you want to do it without modifying system, you'll probably need to use magisk.
I don't know how it's mistaken for anything else but I guess I have to clarify. By ZTE steping up, I didn't mean that they should provide us with direct root or adblock or anything like that. I meant they should have offered the basics everyone does, like a freakin' factory image and clear info so those who brick their phones can figure out how to fix it without praying someone on some forums can save them.
As for no company supporting root, even if they don't directly state it, that's pretty much OnePlus's thing, the direct competitor to ZTE right now.
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Gotta ask, adaway fails with my axon, I figured it was since we have the systemless root, how did you get it to work?
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Type this in terminal:
Code:
reboot disemmcwp
AdGuard lifetime license is cheap. Especially because you can switch currencies when you add it to your cart, and then switch it back to your currency when you enter your credit card. I got 3 lifetime licenses for like 8 bucks apiece just last week.
I got a refund, though, because I had too many questions that it didn't answer. I think it's a legit product but I've gotten used to NetGuard's logging functions whereas AdGuard is kinda "set it and forget it" but their advanced functions feel clunky.
Cyrus D. said:
It's paid only in order to block ads in apps and it's not even a one time purchase, it's an annual license. I won't purchase licenses which expire for Android apps. For now I have the free version installed, but the fact that it gives a warning stating that it's reported battery or data usage will be false (other application's stats will supposedly be recorded as AdGuard's) makes it suspicious to even begin with.
root?
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You are wrong,
There's life time subscription.
I've bought 4 licenses for using it at 2 Windows and 2 android device.
No impact on battery life over 6 months I'm using on 2 smartphone and 2 windows(surface pro 4 and thinkpad 8)
I'm also using at my iPad as free safari extension and battery life is once again rock solid.
And is doing very very good job indeed blocking not only ads but other on line threads too.
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paatha13 said:
You are wrong,
There's life time subscription.
I've bought 4 licenses for using it at 2 Windows and 2 android device.
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There was only one purchase link, and it took me to a page which was offering annual licenses. That's it.
I don't understand why this thread is still going strong.
It's virtually impossible to brick your phone (the U variant, anyway) just by rooting.
AdGuard sucks, rooting is easy, and AdAway is free.
rczrider said:
I don't understand why this thread is still going strong.
It's virtually impossible to brick your phone (the U variant, anyway) just by rooting.
AdGuard sucks, rooting is easy, and AdAway is free.
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@rczrider: I want to do what you have described, i.e. root to get AdAway installed. I understand about rooting, but what OTAs from ZTA? Do they still work without problem or does one have to unroot (and perhaps even undo AdAway) first?
I know that that info exists somewhere in the the thread about rooting, but that is now very long and that info is not easy to find.
Thanks