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Will this work overseas?

I am thinking of purchasing this phone as a wedding gift. He lives in pakistan. Will unlocking this phone and popping in a local sim be enough, or are different bands used in the US that would make this phone incompatible?
Thanks
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pwnjabi1 said:
I am thinking of purchasing this phone as a wedding gift. He lives in pakistan. Will unlocking this phone and popping in a local sim be enough, or are different bands used in the US that would make this phone incompatible?
Thanks
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The phone should work fine, but the big question is will 3G work

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks#Asia
So it should work as far as i can tell.
But i am also wondering, if it'll work just fine in Germany, because e.g. Vodafone uses 1900 as UMTS-Uplink 2100 as UMTS-Downlink - according to Google's specs, NS supports UMTS 900, 2100, 1700 and GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900.
So what's with the UMTS-Uplink

Thanks for the responses guys. I think pakistan still has some time before introducing 3g fully, so no worries.
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pwnjabi1 said:
I am thinking of purchasing this phone as a wedding gift. He lives in pakistan. Will unlocking this phone and popping in a local sim be ekgnough, or are different bands used in the US that would make this phone incompatible?
Thanks
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It will definitely work there in both 2g and 3g, and it's sold unlocked out of the box.

kabumm said:
But i am also wondering, if it'll work just fine in Germany, because e.g. Vodafone uses 1900 as UMTS-Uplink 2100 as UMTS-Downlink - according to Google's specs, NS supports UMTS 900, 2100, 1700 and GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900.
So what's with the UMTS-Uplink
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Any news on this one?

bwalk said:
Any news on this one?
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Well, i did some research and seems like UK also uses 2100 down and 1900 up, which would mean, if it works there it should work here in Germany too.
But i really cant tell, because i just don't know really much about these frequency-stuff.
Would be glad, if someone could help us out on this one

It works with every carrier in the Netherlands and Germany as well.
I'm gonna order one tomorrow to replace my N1

mingkee said:
It will definitely work there in both 2g and 3g, and it's sold unlocked out of the box.
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So even if I buy it on contract it's unlocked?
It would need to work in Asia mostly for me when I travel, but my main concern would be having it unlocked. I have been using an unlocked iphone for now and I just getting tired of it.

cypher21 said:
It works with every carrier in the Netherlands and Germany as well.
I'm gonna order one tomorrow to replace my N1
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It will work on T-mobile as well?

Singlespeed said:
So even if I buy it on contract it's unlocked?
It would need to work in Asia mostly for me when I travel, but my main concern would be having it unlocked. I have been using an unlocked iphone for now and I just getting tired of it.
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It is SIM unlocked whether you buy it contract or with out contract (full price). it should pretty much work anywhere in the world who uses GSM technology, pop in your sim card and use the phone. The only concern is the data, you have to check the network frequencies, worst case scenario is you get the 2G, Edge speed, if the country the you are going is not the same as T-mobile USA network data frequencies. This is my understanding, if somebody out there who knows if I this information is wrong, you are more than welcome to correct me

I'm getting the Nexus S buy the end of december. The thing is that I'm in India and we use the 1900Mhz uplink and 2100Mhz downlink.. Since the Nexus S uses only the downlink frequency does that mean that the phone will not work on the Indian 3G networks.?

ordered mine from USA, will be getting today by DHL, will update.

Learn from my mistake.

I mistakenly bought the Chinese version of the 1+1.
After looking at the bands it supports I realized that it would be no good for T-Mobile in the US.
I admit this was my fault. Still, it's good customer service to allow a customer to return something within a reasonable amount of time.
So, within 24 hours I emailed them:
I would like to cancel this order. My network does not support the wireless bands used by this phone.
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Two days later:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:44 PM, OPPOMART <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,it supports
GSM：850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
TD-SCDMA：1800-1920 / 2010-2025
WCDMA*：2100 / 1900 / 850 / 900
TD-LTE：2570-2620 / 1880-1920 / 2300-2400
FDD-LTE*：2100 / 1800 / 2600
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I didn't ask you what the bands are, I said cancel!
My carrier does not use these bands.
I want to cancel my order. It still shows processing. Please cancel my order.
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On Jun 16, 2014 12:02 AM, "OPPOMART" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,we have shipped your order on 12th June.
The LTE standard covers a range of many different bands, each of which is designated by both a frequency and a band number. In North America, 700, 750, 800, 850, 1900, 1700/2100 (AWS) and 2600 MHz (Rogers Communications, Bell Canada) are used (bands 4, 7, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 41); 2500 MHz in South America; 800, 900, 1800, 2600 MHz in Europe(bands 3, 7, 20);1800 and 2600 MHz in Asia (bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 11, 13, 40);and 1800 MHz and 2300 MHz in Australiaand New Zealand (bands 3, 40).As a result, phones from one country may not work in other countries. Users will need a multi-band capable phone for roaming internationally.
More details, please visit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_(telecommunication)
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Did you catch that, I asked them to cancel on the 9th they shipped 3 days later on the 12th. And, did this guy really just give me a wikipedia article??
How do I return it?
Please don't steal from me. I've told you I can't use this phone on my network.
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In the end I had to do a paypal dispute to get my money back. I finally got my money back on 6/21 12 days later. Like I said it was my fault that I didn't read the specs for the Chinese model. But, these guys have really poor service. This experience has soured me on Oppomart, OPO, 1+1 and anyone else affiliated with them.

Here's to hoping I have better luck with the Chinese version I'm getting sent! I use Net10 (Straight Talk/Tracfone) with an AT&T Sim - I've read up on the bands and it appears I'll get 3G/HSPA+, which I'm OK with considering the HSPA+ speeds are better where I live then the AT&T LTE speeds......doesn't make sense at all!
But anyways good info to know for people on T-Mobile!
And good luck getting your hands on an international version, I'm assuming you still want one!

You can't blame oneplus for customer service issues with oppomart. They may not even be affiliated with oneplus.
Oh I read about a hacked radio that allows the same bands as on the international version. Check the forums for a link. I don't have it.
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tiny4579 said:
You can't blame oneplus for customer service issues with oppomart. They may not even be affiliated with oneplus.
Oh I read about a hacked radio that allows the same bands as on the international version. Check the forums for a link. I don't have it.
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Yea, that is true. They may not have the best customer relations - but they are more than likely not affiliated with OnePlus whatsoever.
And I'm interested in that hack - I assumed since OnePlus said early on that there would only be one model (no variants) other than the memory - that even the Chinese version should have those radios (physically at least) and that they are just disabled due to Chinese whatever.

I've heard other people in the same situation and Oppomart doing the same thing.
So what now, you have to send it back?

oppomart is not affiliated with oppo or oneplus. they are referred to as "scalpers" by the company. the do resell the chinese coloros version of the phone with incompatible bands at a higher price. even mentioning them on the oneplus forums is banned.

Not good ... unfortunate

mitchilin said:
I've heard other people in the same situation and Oppomart doing the same thing.
So what now, you have to send it back?
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Paypal bailed me out.

Bands by Model # per Motorola's Spec sheet

Bands (by model)
Moto X - Pure Edition (GSM Unlocked with T-Mobile SIM - XT1095):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (02, 04, 17)
AT&T (XT1097):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (02, 03, 04, 05, 07, 17)
Verizon (XT1096):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE (02, 03, 04, 07, 13)
Had been hoping the Pure Edition would cover all of AT&T's bands too. Oh well.

If this is true I will return my Moto X. This is bs that the pure edition doesn't support all AT&T bands. Why can't the pure edition not support all gsm bands. Omg I am so angry.
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mgymnop said:
If this is true I will return my Moto X. This is bs that the pure edition doesn't support all AT&T bands. Why can't the pure edition not support all gsm bands. Omg I am so angry.
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Looks like it does

I wonder how much difference it'll actually make when it comes to connectivity and speed?
I ordered the the pure edition based on reports that the model would play fine with att LTE. I will not return it f it does not get all of the Bands though. I am curious as to why Motorola didn't put all of the same radio bands into the pure edition.

I don't think att uses those other bands yet. Maybe they plan to in the future or something

AT&T only uses bands 2, 4, and 17 in the US currently anyway so the pure edition will be fine.

So i'm from south america and my carrier uses lte cat 3. Which one should i get? The at&t or verizon should work. The thing is, how to get those models without contract..

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AT&T only uses bands 2, 4, and 17 in the US currently anyway so the pure edition will be fine.
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Thus, it explains the reason for just those bands!
Durp.

There's a lot of half-truths out there about the Pure Edition working on AT&T. It's true that it supports AT&T's major LTE bands, but it doesn't support them all. If you're OK with having access to most of AT&T's LTE network, then it's probably not an issue.
This is from a discussion that I started on G+ Moto X forum:
"Almost all the LTE in Vermont is band 5, and I frequently travel there for business and pleasure. The HSPA+ network is unusable in places like Burlington.
For the second year in a row, however, the unlocked Moto X doesn't allow its users from accessing all of AT&T's LTE network. I think this is a fact that a lot of news outlets and members of this community leave out because it doesn't affect them. The blanket statement by +Motorola Mobility and members of this community that "it is confirmed to work on AT&T" and the like is misleading and only true if the standard of "working" is that it can at least connect to some sort of network, just not necessarily the current generation network."

It seems like the Pure Edition is mainly geared toward T-Mobile. It is missing band 12, but not every where has that. Tmo operates on band 4. T-Mobile is "pure" so it makes sense lol jk
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0.0 said:
It seems like the Pure Edition is mainly geared toward T-Mobile. It is missing band 12, but not every where has that. Tmo operates on band 4. T-Mobile is "pure" so it makes sense lol jk
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LOL. I think it is just plain stupid from Motorola to have two GSM models for the US market. Do they really used different hardware to cover the different bands or are they just disabled? First would be completely stupid.

I'd much rather that the Pure Edition have all the bands of the AT&T flavor, but as stated by @sabbotage, it would appear AT&T only uses 2, 4 and 17 in the US anyway:
List of LTE Networks

sogrady said:
I'd much rather that the Pure Edition have all the bands of the AT&T flavor, but as stated by @sabbotage, it would appear AT&T only uses 2, 4 and 17 in the US anyway:
List of LTE Networks
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But T-mobile is bringing Band 12 online, and that is not supported. It does really look like there is an F-up here someplace. Hopefully only in the information released.

Note10.1Dude said:
But T-mobile is bringing Band 12 online, and that is not supported. It does really look like there is an F-up here someplace. Hopefully only in the information released.
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Yes exactly and AT&T is using band 5 at the east coast (VT).

sogrady said:
I'd much rather that the Pure Edition have all the bands of the AT&T flavor, but as stated by @sabbotage, it would appear AT&T only uses 2, 4 and 17 in the US anyway:
List of LTE Networks
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I wonder if that info is even all correct. That's always what I went by, but it shows band 5 being strictly US Cellular and a few posts back the one person said Vermont is almost all AT&T band 5. So if that is correct then AT&T must be starting to just roll out band 5.

Note10.1Dude said:
But T-mobile is bringing Band 12 online, and that is not supported. It does really look like there is an F-up here someplace. Hopefully only in the information released.
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Band 12 is only in some places. It'll probably matter more in a year or so
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sabbotage said:
I wonder if that info is even all correct. That's always what I went by, but it shows band 5 being strictly US Cellular and a few posts back the one person said Vermont is almost all AT&T band 5. So if that is correct then AT&T must be starting to just roll out band 5.
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AT&T uses 17 as the main LTE band in the US, 4 in major cities where overhead is high and 2 is just starting now for overhead refarming the PCS spectrum. Nowhere do they use 5 at all. The phone will work fine with AT&T.

It's the same mess from the 2013 MotoX
XT 1053 = XT 1095
XT 1058 = XT 1097
I can't believe they still release a UNBRANDED PURE version with less LTE band support than the AT&T one.
XT 1097 will be used in canada also, europe, parts of asia and is the one selling in brazil since the beggining of september.
So if you want a true LTE global phone, you are stuck with ATT.

Copied from link below:
Bring your own device to AT&T
You can bring your own phone or tablet to AT&T with no annual service contract, if your device is unlocked - not programmed to work exclusively on another wireless network, and will work on one of these GSM network frequencies:
•3G UMTS network in the 850 / 1900MHz bands
•4G LTE network AWS / 700 / 850 / 1900MHz bands
Check your device manufacturer's website to see which frequency bands your device supports, and for information about unlocking your device.
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB113269
Band 5 is 850?

will the att version work on european lte?

Hong Kong

Hey everyone, thanks for taking the time to try and help me out! I am possibly going to spend about 4 months in Hong Kong, starting with this upcoming January. I am really having trouble figuring out if this phone can be used there. It seems like it has the bands for most of the 3G networks there, but can anyone possibly help me confirm this? I would also love LTE, but I don't think this phone has the proper LTE bands for Hong Kong. I tried contacting T-Mobile (I currently have Verizon but may get T-Mobile there), and they told me to contact a Hong Kong carrier. I found the number 2 carrier there, and sent them emails and Facebook messages, and have not heard back. Any help is greatly appreciated!
Basically, I just want to know if the MXPE supports 3G and/or LTE bands in Hong Kong. If it does, I won't have to buy a phone to use while I am there. Thanks!
P.S. The Hong Kong carrier I am looking at is Hong Kong China Mobile.

Well here are the bands that the US MXPE supports:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS),1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE† (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 38, 41)
According to the LTE wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Asia
HKCM uses LTE bands 3, 7, and 40
Looks like bands 3 and 7 are pretty prevalent in HK, so chances are that you'll get LTE (but obviously not 100% guaranteed).
3G wise it looks like they use: UMTS 850, UMTS 900, UMTS 2100 - so you should at least get 3G.

pinoymutt said:
Well here are the bands that the US MXPE supports:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS),1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE† (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 38, 41)
According to the LTE wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Asia
HKCM uses LTE bands 3, 7, and 40
Looks like bands 3 and 7 are pretty prevalent in HK, so chances are that you'll get LTE (but obviously not 100% guaranteed).
3G wise it looks like they use: UMTS 850, UMTS 900, UMTS 2100 - so you should at least get 3G.
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Awesome! It seemed like I was gonna get 3G but I was having trouble making sure that I would get LTE. Mainly because I looked at a Xiaomi Hong Kong phone and it mentioned FDD and I think TDP LTE and I was really confused!

My wife's Nexus 6 got LTE on the local PCCW carrier (now called csl) in Hong Kong earlier this year. So if the Moto X has the same bands for LTE you should be good to go.
As a side note my Nexus 5 did not get LTE but I was still very impressed with the 3G speeds. Wish the US has speeds like that for 3G.

dplcj said:
My wife's Nexus 6 got LTE on the local PCCW carrier (now called csl) in Hong Kong earlier this year. So if the Moto X has the same bands for LTE you should be good to go.
As a side note my Nexus 5 did not get LTE but I was still very impressed with the 3G speeds. Wish the US has speeds like that for 3G.
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Really appreciate the feedback. I will most likely do either csl or China Mobile Hong Kong, depending on pricing and reception.

chris23445 said:
Really appreciate the feedback. I will most likely do either csl or China Mobile Hong Kong, depending on pricing and reception.
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Smartone might be worth taking a look at also.
FYI not all prepaid plans have 4G or LTE. csl just started offering it on prepaid within the last year. I don't know what other carriers have LTE on prepaid so you will need to do some research.

I am a local HKer, using CSL and my Moto X Style from the UK can access all the LTE band in HK. We mostly on 1800/2600 Mhz that is Band 3/7. I remember the Pure from the US do support the HK bands. I almost bought the US version to use in HK, but given up because Moto Maker doesn't allow me to proceed without a US credit card.

mic325 said:
I am a local HKer, using CSL and my Moto X Style from the UK can access all the LTE band in HK. We mostly on 1800/2600 Mhz that is Band 3/7. I remember the Pure from the US do support the HK bands. I almost bought the US version to use in HK, but given up because Moto Maker doesn't allow me to proceed without a US credit card.
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I use UK version of the MOTO X STYLE in Hong Kong too:good:

Not fully LTE Compatible

The Moto Z Play GSM unlocked releases tomorrow in the U.S., and it's not fully compatible with AT&T LTE. So basically its a T-mobile phone. What the hell! I'm so angry they did this. Anyone know where I can pick up the mexican or brazilian model from the States?

What makes you say its not compatible with AT&T?
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According to GSM Arena, the only supported bands on AT&T are 2 and 4. AT&T uses Bands 17, 5, 2 and 4

I think the odds are that is not correct, but I can't guarantee that.

it is correct unfortunately... I already called them. Like I said. Super pissed about it. I really really wanted this phone because of the battery life. Looks like I have to go with the one plus 3 now.

You're right — the Moto US website shows 4G LTE (B2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 13)
If you're interested in getting the Mexican version, send me a private message.

My US Moto Z Play works perfectly with AT&T, LTE Detector shows that I am connected using band 17. https://imgur.com/a/V16ip
How accurate the app is i dont know, but LTE does infact work fine.

People assumed what Moto had for the supported bands was correct, but people have gotten their phones and all the bands for ATT are there with the GSM model.

metalmike6 said:
The Moto Z Play GSM unlocked releases tomorrow in the U.S., and it's not fully compatible with AT&T LTE. So basically its a T-mobile phone. What the hell! I'm so angry they did this. Anyone know where I can pick up the mexican or brazilian model from the States?
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It supports LTE band 17, in fact all bands for AT&T. It was mentioned on the box. I got it yesterday and its working just fine. On Best Buy and Motorola website its bad copy paste job from Moto Z Droid.

Going to be picking mine up from best buy in a bit... I will also report back my findings. Hoping everyone is correct about the bad copy pasta

LTE bands confirmed for unlocked gsm model

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LTE bands confirmed for unlocked gsm model
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Awesome, I actually didnt notice that on the box when I got it. Hopefully not too many people got scared away by the misunderstanding.

I just bought my phone from ebay, the language on the box is spanish, i am guessing its from Mexico.
On the phone itself it says "MODELO:XT1635-02", TYPE:M1D64
I am in Houghton, Michigan right now and am on an H2O network, which uses AT&T networks.
I am checking network info repetetively, and HSPA is displayed in the settings and not LTE.
Dail *#*#4636#*#* in your phone's dailer for more info on your network.
I tried choosing "Only LTE" here and upon choosing this, the phone doesnt catch any network!
Is the US version same as the Mexican version?
Is the Mexican version same as the International version?
WTF is this bull**** and why Motorola have this in the first place?
Anyone with additional info please reply ASAP, because if this mexican phone wont catch LTE, i will give it back to the seller and buy a new US version of the phone,
(provided the US version is compatible with AT&T networks)

Confirming again, us model does have band 17. Just got mine today.

Ak Ankit said:
I just bought my phone from ebay, the language on the box is spanish, i am guessing its from Mexico.
On the phone itself it says "MODELO:XT1635-02", TYPE:M1D64
I am in Houghton, Michigan right now and am on an H2O network, which uses AT&T networks.
I am checking network info repetetively, and HSPA is displayed in the settings and not LTE.
Dail *#*#4636#*#* in your phone's dailer for more info on your network.
I tried choosing "Only LTE" here and upon choosing this, the phone doesnt catch any network!
Is the US version same as the Mexican version?
Is the Mexican version same as the International version?
WTF is this bull**** and why Motorola have this in the first place?
Anyone with additional info please reply ASAP, because if this mexican phone wont catch LTE, i will give it back to the seller and buy a new US version of the phone,
(provided the US version is compatible with AT&T networks)
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The Mexican version of the phone should be 100% compatible. Make sure however you dont have the euro model or the Peru model.

Works with att lte here but not as good as my s7e att phone. But i still get lte in areas
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jon7701 said:
My US Moto Z Play works perfectly with AT&T, LTE Detector shows that I am connected using band 17.
How accurate the app is i dont know, but LTE does infact work fine.
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I just bought the unlocked US Moto Z play from best buy and can't get on the LTE network. I live in a major US city too, philadelphia. Can you maybe share your APN settings with me? What else could it be?
Thanks!

Using LTE Discovery, I can see I'm currently connected to band 17 on my unlocked Moto Z Play. It appears the specs on Moto's website are incorrect.

Motorola updated their website
Network Bands - US GSM Unlocked:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 19, 20, 28, 38, 40)
People confirmed that volte works on tmobile
Unsure about volte on att, or wifi calling on any network
Now, im going to complain about the lack of band 66(aws-3)

paperWastage said:
Motorola updated their website
Network Bands - US GSM Unlocked:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 19, 20, 28, 38, 40)
People confirmed that volte works on tmobile
Unsure about volte on att, or wifi calling on any network
Now, im going to complain about the lack of band 66(aws-3)
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So there are 2 model numbers for the moto z play. XT1635-01 and XT1635-02. I believe 01 is the US version and 02 is an international version. 01 doesn't seem to come w/ a usb type A to type C cable, and 02 seems horribly inconsistent where the versions shipped to india do seem to come w/ a usb type c cable and the versions to the EU don't seem to have said cable.
According to the box on -02 imgur.com/wBTrUhY, it does support band 17.
Has anyone that has -02 tried cyanogen 14.1 yet? Curious to know if they had any issues w/ flashing twrp or cyanogen to -02. Also curious if -01 takes a full size sim or only a nano-sim.