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It's going to be released in India for 10k(slightly less than 200$). Same thing as 620 except no front camera. Same 8GB storage, 512MB RAM, 1 Ghz Krait dual-core, 5 MP camera.
If you compare it with the Android pseudo smartphones available at that price (Galaxy Y etc), the 520 is a great device..
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I would say it's a great deal. It has all the insides of the 720 and 620 and all that great built-in Nokia software. It is also lighter than the 620, and has a bigger screen and probably better viewing angles since it's IPS. And about 30% less! What's not to like?
You just have to be aware what you're doing without - primarily no front camera, no flash, and no ClearBlack display that usually makes those Lumias do so well in bright sunlight.
no
there is no flash camera !!!
AW: Is the 520 an amazing deal?
leonbarroso said:
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there is no flash camera !!!
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Not everyone needs that and for such a cheap but powerful phone.
Btw in browsing its faster than a galaxy **** 3
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Nokia Lumia 520 is an Amazing Deal ! This Phone is a Worth buy !! Value FOR Money.
Just a Have Look on its specifications !! no other Phone in 10k Could give Features As Much as Lumia 520 is Giving
This phone is great for the price.
Just got the black one today noon.
I showed the phone to a couple of people, they were impressed
eeehaw said:
This phone is great for the price.
Just got the black one today noon.
I showed the phone to a couple of people, they were impressed
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I bought the phone last night. Good deal so far.
Its been three days since i got lumia 520 and its worth every penny for its amazing features
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Just Go for It
This is the Worthiest mobile ever seen, its has every thing and more for that price range, I got my lumia yesterday and its GREAT, The only thing it lacks is front cam .
£109 at carphone warehouse in the UK
I just picked this phone up yesterday for £109 - an absolute bargain. Build quality is extremely good for this price point - it makes my wife's Samsung Galaxy S2 look average in comparison. WP8 is not as highly developed as iOS or Android, but then I wouldn't expect it to be. It's heaps better than Android was a couple of years ago... very slick interface and the Nokia apps are manufacturer apps I actually want!... the only downside is the battery which is ok, but not amazing./
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P.S> Will there be a thread on XDA for the new 520/720 devices? or is development on WP8 not really possible?
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I just picked this phone up yesterday for £109 - an absolute bargain. Build quality is extremely good for this price point - it makes my wife's Samsung Galaxy S2 look average in comparison. WP8 is not as highly developed as iOS or Android, but then I wouldn't expect it to be. It's heaps better than Android was a couple of years ago... very slick interface and the Nokia apps are manufacturer apps I actually want!... the only downside is the battery which is ok, but not amazing./
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P.S> Will there be a thread on XDA for the new 520/720 devices? or is development on WP8 not really possible?
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I don't think so. As of now WP8 development isn't really possible, and tbh I don't see what we can do with it, so maybe not. Overclocking would be nice but useless, with 512MB of RAM.
I can't fine advanced audio settings
I bot this phone a week ago. When i tried to access the advanced audio settings it doesn't show the audio presets or anything. It opens 'enhancements' and nothing else. Does ny one know what I am doing wrong?? anyone with this phone, please reply. Thanks in advance.
Cons
Its Not a good deal in my opinion because the phone does not have flash and front facing camera other wise the phone is good.
Picked one up for wife 2 days back.
Still in the learning curve.
The front camera you may not need that, but the flash is essential for me. I take one 4 days ago but not use it much, Ram 512mb seem ok for this model
Srikks said:
I bot this phone a week ago. When i tried to access the advanced audio settings it doesn't show the audio presets or anything. It opens 'enhancements' and nothing else. Does ny one know what I am doing wrong?? anyone with this phone, please reply. Thanks in advance.
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The advanced audio settings are on only when u use the headphones! It's turned off by default while using the speakers
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$130 at Walmart. Way smoother than android for the price. edit: Sold out.
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I'm thinking about trading my One V in for the 520. They were nice and are gonna give $100 for this laggy pos. The only thing about the no camera flash is I would sometimes want to use it as a flash light. Don't care about front facing camera. Does the 520 have a compass? One thing other than the lag I don't like about the 1v is no compass. I'd trade a compass for a flashlight any day. Worth the trade?
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It's awesome! 2 days of using and everything is just perfect, but I'm missing for flashlight, sometimes it's can be useful.
Welcome everyone!
This thread has been created for extreme newbies/noobs and for their benefit. Not only noobs, but everyone is free to post questions and also give answers to those questions. Any type of question is allowed as long as it is related about the device. No off-topic discussions are allowed!
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PoseidonKing
Hi, I'm considering a migration from G3 to Zuk Edge, and I would like to know general impressions about the device, any irritating bugs, faults, downsides, etc. that I should consider before purchase.
Is it the same ****ty camera as in the Zuk Z2 Pro?
Has anybody been able to find root method/bootloader unlock/TWRP method with this device yet? I mean, seeing how it uses a Snapdragon 821 (comparatively dev-friendly compared to Mediatek or Kirin chips) and previous ZUK phones have had decent developer interest and custom roms, there should be at least something by now... maybe I will hunt in some Chinese language forums.
RQYP said:
Has anybody been able to find root method/bootloader unlock/TWRP method with this device yet? I mean, seeing how it uses a Snapdragon 821 (comparatively dev-friendly compared to Mediatek or Kirin chips) and previous ZUK phones have had decent developer interest and custom roms, there should be at least something by now... maybe I will hunt in some Chinese language forums.
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Hi
I recently was browsing through some websites. I found out that lenovo is releasing official method to unlock the BL. And guess what, it's gonna be the old fashioned way: request for unlock code on their website, get code on mail, unlock through adb.
Hit Thanks if I Helped You!!!
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PoseidonKing
EAPOCS said:
Is it the same ****ty camera as in the Zuk Z2 Pro?
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Hi
The ZUK Z2 Pro was a total failure. I mean...just see the reviews on amazon! I hope that they have improved the camera module.
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PoseidonKing
PoseidonKing said:
Hi
The ZUK Z2 Pro was a total failure. I mean...just see the reviews on amazon! I hope that they have improved the camera module.
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PoseidonKing
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Then again, the ZUK Z2 (the 5" version, NOT the Pro) is probably the cheapest Snapdragon 820 device out there. Last time I checked there were aliexpress listings selling the ZUK Z2 for about $190 US and the ZUK Z2 Pro for $290 or so. So its basically a mid-ranger with a flagship processor. IMO I think people went in thinking the camera would be good because it had a good processor, then came out disappointed when it wasn't on par with the Samsung S7 or something. Then again, I never tried out any ZUK phone so this is just what I think.
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Hi, I'm considering a migration from G3 to Zuk Edge, and I would like to know general impressions about the device, any irritating bugs, faults, downsides, etc. that I should consider before purchase.
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I have been using ZUK Edge since Saturday. Comparing with my old phones (Galaxy S6, Nexus 5X), this phone is the winner. The battery holds up very well, I was able to use it a day and half without charging and still had 30% on the 2nd day before lunch. Even though the screen is not AMOLED it's good enough, video looks amazing because the bezels are so tiny.
Previously I was carrying 2 phones, one with my work number and one with my family number, now with the dual SIM capbability, I'm carrying one instead. Such a relief.
It doesn't have NFC, if that bothers you.
First irritating thing, you need a lot of tweaks to make it works here (well some may enjoy it, this is XDA after all. See my other post for the details). Even after you switched the language to English, Chinese text are still showing here and there. I was able to get rid of most of them after rooted, but the custom DownloadProviderUI still showing Chinese caption in Notifications. I bet ultimately I'll fix it though.
Another obvious issue is the slow charging. It takes a couple of hours to fully charge the phone, it becomes obviously annoying if you were used to the other phones with the latest quick charge technologies.
One more thing, the notification LED is RIDICULOUSLY DIM, I didn't see it for the first a few days when it's ON, then I plugged the charger in and out repeatedly, finally I found there was a little dot seems to turned into dark red - that's it.
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Another merit is the U Touch button, once you get used to it, it's very handy, and saves screen space when you don't need the virtual buttons.
PoseidonKing said:
Hi
I recently was browsing through some websites. I found out that lenovo is releasing official method to unlock the BL. And guess what, it's gonna be the old fashioned way: request for unlock code on their website, get code on mail, unlock through adb.
Hit Thanks if I Helped You!!!
Regards
PoseidonKing
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Nope, ZUK Edge is different than their previous products, you don't need anything from Lenovo, just use adb you can unlock the bootloader.
Poor Camera
PoseidonKing said:
Hi
The ZUK Z2 Pro was a total failure. I mean...just see the reviews on amazon! I hope that they have improved the camera module.
Regards
PoseidonKing
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I have to admit if I replace this phone later this year the poor camera would be the number 1 reason. I look at the photos I took with this phone, it's disappointing (comparing to Galaxy S6 and Nexus 5X I had used before this one).
I was about to buy Z2 PRO, but after reading post after post about the horrid camera performance i not going to buy...yet. I cant believe how a 13MP with OIS/EIS and 1.8 aperture can take bad photos. The Zuk Edge is better taking photos? It has a 2.2 aperture and no OIS... si it (theoretically) have worst camera hardware.
maxionline said:
I was about to buy Z2 PRO, but after reading post after post about the horrid camera performance i not going to buy...yet. I cant believe how a 13MP with OIS/EIS and 1.8 aperture can take bad photos. The Zuk Edge is better taking photos? It has a 2.2 aperture and no OIS... si it (theoretically) have worst camera hardware.
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ZUK Edge has the worst camera I have seen in the past 2-3 years. Since I won't be able to get their updates, I'm afraid I won't see any improvement during my ownership.
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ZUK Edge has the worst camera I have seen in the past 2-3 years. Since I won't be able to get their updates, I'm afraid I won't see any improvement during my ownership.
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So you already have the Zuk Edge, and the camera is terrible? What is happening to Zuk enginners??? Can you upload some pics to see? Thanks!
maxionline said:
So you already have the Zuk Edge, and the camera is terrible? What is happening to Zuk enginners??? Can you upload some pics to see? Thanks!
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Outdoor is OK, but shooting indoor you will immediately see the difference. I'm attaching 2 cropped photos because of the size limit on this forum. The environment wasn't extremely dim, just average indoor conditions.
The original size of the photos is 4160x3120, these are either cropped or shrank.
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Outdoor is OK, but shooting indoor you will immediately see the difference. I'm attaching 2 cropped photos because of the size limit on this forum. The environment wasn't extremely dim, just average indoor conditions.
The original size of the photos is 4160x3120, these are either cropped or shrank.
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Thanks you very much for the images!!, You are right, that pictures are a shame for a +U$S400 smartphone..
xxtan said:
I have been using ZUK Edge since Saturday. Comparing with my old phones (Galaxy S6, Nexus 5X), this phone is the winner. The battery holds up very well, I was able to use it a day and half without charging and still had 30% on the 2nd day before lunch. Even though the screen is not AMOLED it's good enough, video looks amazing because the bezels are so tiny.
Previously I was carrying 2 phones, one with my work number and one with my family number, now with the dual SIM capbability, I'm carrying one instead. Such a relief.
It doesn't have NFC, if that bothers you.
First irritating thing, you need a lot of tweaks to make it works here (well some may enjoy it, this is XDA after all. See my other post for the details). Even after you switched the language to English, Chinese text are still showing here and there. I was able to get rid of most of them after rooted, but the custom DownloadProviderUI still showing Chinese caption in Notifications. I bet ultimately I'll fix it though.
Another obvious issue is the slow charging. It takes a couple of hours to fully charge the phone, it becomes obviously annoying if you were used to the other phones with the latest quick charge technologies.
One more thing, the notification LED is RIDICULOUSLY DIM, I didn't see it for the first a few days when it's ON, then I plugged the charger in and out repeatedly, finally I found there was a little dot seems to turned into dark red - that's it.
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Another merit is the U Touch button, once you get used to it, it's very handy, and saves screen space when you don't need the virtual buttons.
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Thank you so much for the review. Now I'm considering the Xiaomi Mi6 too!
Add Google Account
Hello,
I just got the zuk edge. Now Im trying to add a google user (me) in the phone. But when I open up the play store to sign in I'm getting a white screen and nothing happens. Also in settings nothing happens. The same for all the other google apps that are preinstalled. Does anyone have a solution? Im on Zui 2.3.079 ST
Try this, worked for me:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-edge/help/zuk-edge-bootloader-unlock-twrp-recovery-t3549565
papa-nundo said:
Try this, worked for me:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-edge/help/zuk-edge-bootloader-unlock-twrp-recovery-t3549565
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I just needed the new google framework. I downloaded it from apkmirror.
For camera quality i surf a while ago on the Chinese Zuk forum to read some news. 2.5 ZUI beta is out. You can download it and install it through TWRP (with super-su) and someone says that the camera quality improved a lot (same results as in Zuk 2 & 2 Pro). That sounds good for this mobile.
Second if you have problems with Google Frameworks try-out in the main page the 2 ROM i posted during those days. People says that the BB72 from GrossoShop is better than GizChina.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Honor View 20, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Honor View 20 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I just switched to honor devices first time and it's difficult to use
May be it's due to pie upgradation or honor device but it requires too much permissions for any app
I was panic till 1 day because I was not getting notification until I open the app then I gave permission for notification which lead to resolution
Should I buy or not?
Hey @fahadbashir, Should I buy or not?
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Hey @fahadbashir, Should I buy or not?
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I think you should buy global version because features are much impressive but I am facing notification issues in Chinese rom which is very annoying for me and I am thinking to switch
Otherwise phone is good for camera, performance, battery timing
The phone looks stunning, most beautiful phone I've ever seen. Camera is amazing, tho I haven't got a clue on how to use most of its functions and there is no tutorial either which sucks. Having the Global Model was a surprisingly disappointing buying experience since it did not come with headphones nor back cover so I had to buy one. The icons are very large as is text. That was also surprising, as I'm used to small icons and text. Despite changing both to the smallest possible it's still huge.
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The phone looks stunning, most beautiful phone I've ever seen. Camera is amazing, tho I haven't got a clue on how to use most of its functions and there is no tutorial either which sucks. Having the Global Model was a surprisingly disappointing buying experience since it did not come with headphones nor back cover so I had to buy one. The icons are very large as is text. That was also surprising, as I'm used to small icons and text. Despite changing both to the smallest possible it's still huge.
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The chinese version doesn't have headphones too.
Honor View20 is such an interesting phone. It's hard not to love when it was the first phone with a 48MP camera, ToF sensor ect.
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Hey @fahadbashir, Should I buy or not?
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u can buy it
i thinked abot sending it back but oVer the days the more i use it the more i like it. Nothing to do apple with it. Nor samsung s10 camera
Thoughts
It is worthy my money¿
I think the phone is great (5 stars) but I will give it 1 star because it's been out for 6 months and even after contacting Huawei through various means including twitter, Huawei can't/doesn't care about fixing the f*ing weather app so that my town is found in the search.
All phones I have ever used can find Guildford, England, including all other Huawei phones but this one doesn't.
It's 6 months to fix a bug that would probably take 5 minutes if anyone bothered so f*** off Huawei you are too arrogant to ever get my money again.
my current phone is honor 10, i love it very much, so for my next phone i will also choose honor, honor 20 should be much better.
Surprising Phone
I got mine as part of a downsizing of my contract costs, so this cost me £20pm for a 24month contract.
For the money, it simply is incredible. Considering the phone launched at £579 (I got the 8/256GB model) the drop in price to get a 2GB/Unlimited everything else contract for less TCO than the RRP is pretty great.
The screen is bright and somehow better in sunlight than my old S8 despite the latter officially having a much better sunlight contrast. The phone performs great with a 300k+ AntuTu score, and no apps phase the thing. With a bit of work getting a consistent dark theme helps a great deal too in terms of usability and the UI feels fine to sue although I instantly switched to the familiarity of the Microsoft Launcher.
The main camera is so much better than I expected for a budget flagship. The AI Ultra Clarity mode is stunning when used outdoors. Need to test video mode but compared to the S8 the main camera is a massive step up. The selfie camera is average but I'm not too worried about that.
Overall, yes you lack stuff like a periscope zoom camera and wide angle, but considering a S10e would cost me £200 more TCO, come with 128GB less storage? It isn't enough of an upgrade to justify the expense, despite the AMOLED screen being undeniably better. Design wise, the View 20 is more than a match and the back pattern on the Phantom Blue is amazing.
Overall, so far, so good.
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I think the phone is great (5 stars) but I will give it 1 star because it's been out for 6 months and even after contacting Huawei through various means including twitter, Huawei can't/doesn't care about fixing the f*ing weather app so that my town is found in the search.
All phones I have ever used can find Guildford, England, including all other Huawei phones but this one doesn't.
It's 6 months to fix a bug that would probably take 5 minutes if anyone bothered so f*** off Huawei you are too arrogant to ever get my money again.
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Guildford is listed on the app, I think you may have a user specific bug!
Stop It said:
Guildford is listed on the app, I think you may have a user specific bug!
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Thanks for posting this! I deleted data and cache of the Weather app and now the phone can find Guildford! I guess I should have tried this earlier. I am still annoyed that nobody from Huawei tried to help me with this problem.
anonimo said:
Thanks for posting this! I deleted data and cache of the Weather app and now the phone can find Guildford! I guess I should have tried this earlier. I am still annoyed that nobody from Huawei tried to help me with this problem.
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Yeah, they should've helped a lot sooner especially for what could've been a simple fix to get back to you with. Customer Service really is important and this is a big failing frankly.
Hello if anyone here does not play the Game Fortnite but uses this phone, please contact me at [email protected] there is an exclusive in game cosmetic with the phone to claim for free and i would like it!
If anyone has this phone and does not play fortnite I would appreciate it if you could send me the code that comes with the phone to unlock a skin in game for fortnite. I would really appreciate it if you could email me the code at [email protected] since I want the Honor 20, but cannot afford it at the moment and would like the fortnite skin at least for now.
F*A*C*T
Huawei spies on you.
Love
I am using Honor 7C . Great device. Build quality is no so great put performance wise it a great device
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LedgendaryEpics said:
Huawei spies on you.
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I don't think so. If you have any proof i would love to know
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fahadbashir said:
I just switched to honor devices first time and it's difficult to use
May be it's due to pie upgradation or honor device but it requires too much permissions for any app
I was panic till 1 day because I was not getting notification until I open the app then I gave permission for notification which lead to resolution
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yes it is difficult to use first time but with the time you are going to love this device
Honor View20 is such an interesting phone. It's hard to love when it was the first phone with a 48MP camera, ToF sensor ect.....
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the ZTE Axon 10 Pro, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the ZTE Axon 10 Pro is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Solid phone with a great batterylife, rapid fast processor and a really good camera with GCAM
Absolutely loving this phone! It looks great, is snappy as hell, the speaker sounds amazing, so is the screen. And it satisfies all my emulation needs, such as DosBox, Dolphin and PPSSPP. It also runs quite a lot of the Nvidia Shield games i used to love!
Issue with camera pretty sure .report says USER_SCOPED_TEMP_DATA_all sorts of code
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Issue with camera pretty sure .report says USER_SCOPED_TEMP_DATA_all sorts of code[/QUOT
No worries much love as well
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Great tools all the way around.
I just received mine and really liking it (coming from the Axon 7). Is there no notification light to let you know when you've received a call or text??? Please enlighten me!
Steve - O said:
I just received mine and really liking it (coming from the Axon 7). Is there no notification light to let you know when you've received a call or text??? Please enlighten me!
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There is no notification light, but you can use always-on-display, for me AOD is even more better.
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There is no notification light, but you can use always-on-display, for me AOD is even more better.
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For me that does not seem very good . A waste of power and excess light during night time hours. Just say'n
So it's an even BETTER upgrade story, though for the same reasons as when I went from Priv to A7. Sheer amount of stock features is uncanny!! Video record your screen - say whaaaaaaaaat?! And cameras are finally decent. Best of all, we now have root and all the other goodies, thus I can only imagine how A10 will fly with a new kernel for battery life like we had w/ A7.
A10Pro
The best smartphone I've ever ovned
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It's my dayly driver, Global Version/A2020G Pro, 6GB/128GB with a 128GB Micro SD card on top
DK666X said:
The best smartphone I've ever ovned
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It's my dayly driver, Global Version/A2020G Pro, 6GB/128GB with a 128GB Micro SD card on top
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Question: Are you in the US? I have this phone (12gb RAM Global version) and I am still not happy with the camera.... guess I need to install the Google Camera.
Have you done any mods to your device?
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Question: Are you in the US? I have this phone (12gb RAM Global version) and I am still not happy with the camera.... guess I need to install the Google Camera.
Have you done any mods to your device?
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Nope. Europe. I'm sorry that I don't have any answers for you. I've got a OnePlus 7T now, but maybe you can try this ZTE Global Community Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ZTEglobalCommunity/?ref=share
Best Regards /DK
The question goes to those who have experience with both the Huawei mate 20 Pro and the Samsung S10 +.
I myself come from Oneplus 6 and have preordered the S10 + (Exynos, Ceramic black, 512 GB) to get the additional earbuds. Now Samsung has informed me that this preorder - promotion cannot be claimed for me, because I ordered via Amazon (although this was advertised on Amazon). "Relatively" seen the S10 + is therefore still too expensive (in fact that I now have to buy the ear buds additional). On the other hand the price of the S10+ has already fallen by about 100 €, so the "preorder" was without any sense for me.
Now I've considered two options. Either return the S10 + and buy it later (when it's cheaper) or consider the upcoming Huawei P30 pro.
Therefore I´m interested in experiences from those, who know Samsung and Huawei. I have to say that I am very satisfied with the S10 + itself. In particular, in the following points:
+ great feel and look, in Ceramic black it looks just fantastic and feels very high quality
+ display just great
+ battery drain (8-10h SOT over 1 1/2 days or about 5h SOT over 2 1/2 days)
+ All around functionality
+ beautiful user interface (dark theme, dialer...) and intuitive menu
+ camera. The raw files are only slightly better than the O6. The jpegs are more than ok.
+ Stereo sound and sound quality (especially sound enhancement setting for listening to music - not as good as viper4android, but sufficient and noticeably better than what I've known before)
+/- Overall speed, but only marginally faster than my OP6, wifi even much slower, but I can live with that.
+/- "bloat ware" incl. Bixby, in total not so useless
How does the Huawei mate 20 pro behave in these points - haptic, display, colors, user interface, quality, functionality, sound quality etc in terms of what I would expect with a Huawei 30 pro. Although this will certainly be a great smartphone, I'm a bit skeptical. Just because I'm really excited about Samsung for the first time.
Root is required for my choice (titanium backup and some other apps that require root). I really want to get away from custom roms. In this regard, I feel at Samsung for the first time really arrived - hence the interest or the question of the overall feeling at Huawei. I do not really care about the brands themselves, so I do not want to start any "fan boy" discussions.
I would be very thankful about your opinion or your experiences!
Flying Fox said:
The question goes to those who have experience with both the Huawei mate 20 Pro and the Samsung S10 +.
I myself come from Oneplus 6 and have preordered the S10 + (Exynos, Ceramic black, 512 GB) to get the additional earbuds. Now Samsung has informed me that this preorder - promotion cannot be claimed for me, because I ordered via Amazon (although this was advertised on Amazon). "Relatively" seen the S10 + is therefore still too expensive (in fact that I now have to buy the ear buds additional). On the other hand the price of the S10+ has already fallen by about 100 €, so the "preorder" was without any sense for me.
Now I've considered two options. Either return the S10 + and buy it later (when it's cheaper) or consider the upcoming Huawei P30 pro.
Therefore I´m interested in experiences from those, who know Samsung and Huawei. I have to say that I am very satisfied with the S10 + itself. In particular, in the following points:
+ great feel and look, in Ceramic black it looks just fantastic and feels very high quality Ceramic Black is 1500 Euros (so is white) ; on the other hand, the rugged feel of Blue and Greeen Mate 20 Pro feel great , no prints , no grease
+ display just great I also like the S10 plus display, but I like Note 9 more and also Mate 20 Pro feels more vibrant (it totally depends on preference)
+ battery drain (8-10h SOT over 1 1/2 days or about 5h SOT over 2 1/2 days) : no flagship beats Mate 20 Pro in terms of battery life (this is kind of end of story, no BUTS), never feared I could remain uncovered
+ All around functionality Samsung is Better here, everything is done directly, no tweaks needed (except for the Infrared remote of the Huwaei, which I used)
+ beautiful user interface (dark theme, dialer...) and intuitive menu : Samsung better here, no doubt (except for the fact that Huawei supports large almost full screen caller images, while Samsung is stubborn again)
+ camera. The raw files are only slightly better than the O6. The jpegs are more than ok. : camera on Mate 20 Pro has no match. You should personally have both phones and see for yourself. The portraits dont have a match on any phone.
+ Stereo sound and sound quality (especially sound enhancement setting for listening to music - not as good as viper4android, but sufficient and noticeably better than what I've known before) : Sound quality better on S10 plus, finally fixed the loudness, now you can here the notifications ( I had to use Volume booster on Note 9)
+/- Overall speed, but only marginally faster than my OP6, wifi even much slower, but I can live with that. : Unnoticeable , both feel great and move fast
+/- "bloat ware" incl. Bixby, in total not so useless : Huawei doesnt have this issue.
How does the Huawei mate 20 pro behave in these points - haptic, display, colors, user interface, quality, functionality, sound quality etc in terms of what I would expect with a Huawei 30 pro. Although this will certainly be a great smartphone, I'm a bit skeptical. Just because I'm really excited about Samsung for the first time.
Hey there man, I have answered point by point to your questions. I should also add a few "small" things :
- Huawei has better notifications: way better! With Samsung , when you dismiss the notifications from the bar, ALL app badges clear and you soon forget (of course) where you had unread notifs. This is the most annoying thing about Android 9 on Samsung. You can work around this by installing Microsoft Launcher.
- In my opinion the fingerprint reader on Mate 20 Pro is better (even if it is optical) and better placed. With Samsung you have to lower you finger too much and lose the grip on the phone
- on S10 family there is no notification LED , Samsung gave that up. I hope Huawei will not be that dumb with the P30. There is a workaround as well called Always on Edge.
In conclusion, I now have the S10 plus, selling the Mate 20 Pro. For MY needs (and only for that), Mate 20 Pro is the better phone. But I get bored from time to time, so here I am )
Cheers and good luck!
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Hey there man, I have answered point by point to your questions. I should also add a few "small" things :
- Huawei has better notifications: way better! With Samsung , when you dismiss the notifications from the bar, ALL app badges clear and you soon forget (of course) where you had unread notifs. This is the most annoying thing about Android 9 on Samsung. You can work around this by installing Microsoft Launcher.
- In my opinion the fingerprint reader on Mate 20 Pro is better (even if it is optical) and better placed. With Samsung you have to lower you finger too much and lose the grip on the phone
- on S10 family there is no notification LED , Samsung gave that up. I hope Huawei will not be that dumb with the P30. There is a workaround as well called Always on Edge.
In conclusion, I now have the S10 plus, selling the Mate 20 Pro. For MY needs (and only for that), Mate 20 Pro is the better phone. But I get bored from time to time, so here I am )
Cheers and good luck!
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Thanks, where can I find your point by point answer? Searched the forum (of course), but without success.
Yes, I know about the other "issues" as I still have the S10+. Fingerprint reader is ok for me, and notification LED not that important for me. As I said I am very satisfied with the S10 +. Apart from the fact that my pre-order at the corresponding starting price was a flop I now also consider the Huawei flagship. Hence my interest explicitly in the above points.
Thanks again
EDIT: sorry, just saw your answers in your quote above - my fault
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Thanks, where can I find your point by point answer? Searched the forum (of course), but without success.
Yes, I know about the other "issues" as I still have the S10+. Fingerprint reader is ok for me, and notification LED not that important for me. As I said I am very satisfied with the S10 +. Apart from the fact that my pre-order at the corresponding starting price was a flop I now also consider the Huawei flagship. Hence my interest explicitly in the above points.
Thanks again
EDIT: sorry, just saw your answers in your quote above - my fault
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Hey man no worries, glad we share the same opinion to some point. Anyway, I am sure P30 pro will still have a better camera, cause once they started an algorithm, they will most probably stick to it. As for Samsung, the notifications stuff is driving me nuts, as it is the only manufacturer to do that and dismiss all/clear all BS. Other than that goodlooking and great phone , the S10 plus.
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Hey man no worries, glad we share the same opinion to some point. Anyway, I am sure P30 pro will still have a better camera, cause once they started an algorithm, they will most probably stick to it. As for Samsung, the notifications stuff is driving me nuts, as it is the only manufacturer to do that and dismiss all/clear all BS. Other than that goodlooking and great phone , the S10 plus.
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Once again your answers reflected, I would like to thank you for your effort. They confirm my assumptions.
On the battery life: I had never really problems and that of the S10 + is more than sufficient.
To the camera: this is really very important to me, but not at the expense of the overall package. I do not understand the good picture quality of the Huawei´s completely. How can it be so good with such a high-resolution sensor? I usually shoot with a Nikon D850, similar pixel count, but correspondingly large full-frame sensor. And apart from that, no smartphone lens can put that resolution on a sheet of paper. The Huawei P30 will have a 10x optical zoom. That's nice, but it also means that light has to pass through more lenses. All the more surprising how Huawei software succeeds in getting such good results.
The overall package: if there scores the S10 +, then the decision should be clear to me. I'll wait for the 26th of May and the following reviews; but for the first time I'm really impressed with Samsung's operating system. By that I mean the functionality as a whole, the display and sound quality. The latter is even with Bluetooth headphones better than anything I've ever known (as I said, except for viper4android).
Let's wait and see. What a pity that I do not have the opportunity to take a Huawei in my own hands.
Correct, not much else to add. As for the lenses, I dont understand the whole process, and the whole aperture stuff (I do, but not in detail), but I see the final result, which is great. And yes, that is what excited me too, cause last year was boring from the Samsung perspective...this series of new phones, they did it! And I ve been using the Galaxy series since S1. So...we ll see what happens on 26Mar and after . Take care!
I would wait and see for the p30pro.
I use both at the moment. Honestly aside from the crazy Samsung display I'm kind of disappointed...
Almost the same camera setup as s9+ and note9.
8nm (exynose) Vs 7nm on the SD and m20p version.
Battery is not really stable (I've had mine since the 8th: you can see various reports on this here on XDA and Reddit (apparently the SD doesn't have that much issues).
Overall a good package, honestly. But I also think they could of done better...and still the same 15w charger!! Coming from a 6T and M20p....it's crazy they don't have more powerful chargers today!
Huawei is really innovating now (taking risks), Sammy is securing their position and oneplus is growing fast and being very open minded. Three different approaches.
Root...apparently there are issues with the new rooting procedure on exynos. But I guess we'll have to wait on JohnWu. Forget that on Huawei's side...getting root is hell, even bootloader unlocked. Only some can do it, but you need to go the funkyhuawei path.
Honestly, I don't need root anymore, phones are mostly optimized, not like in the past. And endurance is better every year. It takes me around 1h30 configure/reload all.my apps on a new phone.
Camera...hmm, that was my only weak point on the 6T, tried all the versions of the gcam, the sensor was to small, lenses not good...so even if you put a Porsche engine in a fiat500, it's a fiat500.
Huawei cameras you or love them or hate them. BUT apparently Huawei is coming out with the new Sony sensor, ToF, 10x optical, and most probably some other surprises...I just hoped OEMs would understand how important is a monochrome lense for all that it could bring in. Till today portraits are better on the p20pro than the m20pro...but that's my opinion, except of course the pixel 3XL. Which for me must have a voodoo magic camera processing system.
Notifications, i was really pissed with the m20p...but at least it has a led (lol). There were bugs here in there..but Voilà, no perfect phones exist. Annoyed to double tap on my screen on the S10+ to see my notifications (I don't use AOD, 1% battery/hour).
Battery, CPU. I've realised that a phone today needs to learn from you (your habits, app usage, etc..) and here the Kirin 980 & pie is a monster setup...it really does something in the back ground. Not sure about the S10+ yet...I need to give it time. But battery, till.today nothing gets close to me m20p.
The new display on the p30p is reported to be a Samsung...so it might be great. Let's see.. 4 days to go.
In the meantime check this out, people are saying it was done on the p30p (no idea how long they took.on post processing, but still..impressive!)
No idea why the YouTube link isn't working...
Just in short summary: after Huawei Honor 7 and P10 I will never everly ever go back to Huawei absolutely ever again. Not in this lifetime anyway...
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Thanks, where can I find your point by point answer? Searched the forum (of course), but without success.
Yes, I know about the other "issues" as I still have the S10+. Fingerprint reader is ok for me, and notification LED not that important for me. As I said I am very satisfied with the S10 +. Apart from the fact that my pre-order at the corresponding starting price was a flop I now also consider the Huawei flagship. Hence my interest explicitly in the above points.
Thanks again
EDIT: sorry, just saw your answers in your quote above - my fault
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I have Android Pie on my S8+ and notifications don't behave like that. If i clear a new message notifaction I still have app icon badges that show me the number of messages I have not read.
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I would wait and see for the p30pro.
I use both at the moment. Honestly aside from the crazy Samsung display I'm kind of disappointed...
Almost the same camera setup as s9+ and note9.
8nm (exynose) Vs 7nm on the SD and m20p version.
Battery is not really stable (I've had mine since the 8th: you can see various reports on this here on XDA and Reddit (apparently the SD doesn't have that much issues).
Overall a good package, honestly. But I also think they could of done better...and still the same 15w charger!! Coming from a 6T and M20p....it's crazy they don't have more powerful chargers today!
Huawei is really innovating now (taking risks), Sammy is securing their position and oneplus is growing fast and being very open minded. Three different approaches.
Root...apparently there are issues with the new rooting procedure on exynos. But I guess we'll have to wait on JohnWu. Forget that on Huawei's side...getting root is hell, even bootloader unlocked. Only some can do it, but you need to go the funkyhuawei path.
Honestly, I don't need root anymore, phones are mostly optimized, not like in the past. And endurance is better every year. It takes me around 1h30 configure/reload all.my apps on a new phone.
Camera...hmm, that was my only weak point on the 6T, tried all the versions of the gcam, the sensor was to small, lenses not good...so even if you put a Porsche engine in a fiat500, it's a fiat500.
Huawei cameras you or love them or hate them. BUT apparently Huawei is coming out with the new Sony sensor, ToF, 10x optical, and most probably some other surprises...I just hoped OEMs would understand how important is a monochrome lense for all that it could bring in. Till today portraits are better on the p20pro than the m20pro...but that's my opinion, except of course the pixel 3XL. Which for me must have a voodoo magic camera processing system.
Notifications, i was really pissed with the m20p...but at least it has a led (lol). There were bugs here in there..but Voilà, no perfect phones exist. Annoyed to double tap on my screen on the S10+ to see my notifications (I don't use AOD, 1% battery/hour).
Battery, CPU. I've realised that a phone today needs to learn from you (your habits, app usage, etc..) and here the Kirin 980 & pie is a monster setup...it really does something in the back ground. Not sure about the S10+ yet...I need to give it time. But battery, till.today nothing gets close to me m20p.
The new display on the p30p is reported to be a Samsung...so it might be great. Let's see.. 4 days to go.
In the meantime check this out, people are saying it was done on the p30p (no idea how long they took.on post processing, but still..impressive!)
No idea why the YouTube link isn't working...
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Thank you for this detailed review of your experiences. Yes, link doesn't´t work. But I just had time to take pictures in raw for post processing via lightroom. I must really say, not that big step coming from OP 6 a I had expected. So I will keep your opinion in mind. Thx!!
Norsehawk said:
Just in short summary: after Huawei Honor 7 and P10 I will never everly ever go back to Huawei absolutely ever again. Not in this lifetime anyway...
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Could I ask you what was wrong with Huawei (and which model) in your opinion?
The P30 pro comes in at 999 euro with a year old SoC, widely hated skin, a second class Samsung 1080p display(no excuse for the price).
Even ignoring the fact that the S10+ is a superior all-round package (even more with the 10% student discount) I think Huawei is shooting itself in the foot by trying to jump on the ultra flagship pricing train, their reputation has been thanks to the good value they offered, which is gone.
I spent a day comparing my phone with a relative's mate 20 pro, the latter is a very ambitious device but it falls short in every category except face recognition, which I don't use and has been proven to be a flawed protocol on even the most secured devices.
If you check my guide you can see my 15h SoT result and how it can be achieved, the p20 pro has a theoretically bigger(100mah) battery yet it gets nowhere close due to the uncompetitive SoC and software.
Huawei doesn't and never will allow unlocked bootloaders, I wouldn't recommend their services even if they offered the best choices, they're still far from that and their anti-consumer behaviour needs to be heavily punished.
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Could I ask you what was wrong with Huawei (and which model) in your opinion?
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I only had bad experience with Huawei Honor 7 and P10. Not only did the hardware made my life into misery, but also the software (read EMUI). Honor 7 was an unfinished phone as it was beta, and P10s hardware went first crap (the battery bulked over time in my pocket so bad that you could see the battery cells because of the gap). So the Swedish repaircompany fixed it by replacing with new screen and battery but screwed up the dualcamera so it takes blurry pics which means shipping to service one extra time.
This Samsung, which is my first Samsung phone, is probably the best phone so far I ever had. I only can remember one phone that was this good (out of all phones I've had), and that was iPhone 5s. Had also Nexus 4 but here in Europe Google was cheap with only 16 GB ROM instead of 32. Shame...
Also, I'm still waiting for Android Pie for my Huawei P10 which will probably never come. And it doesn't matter since the EMUI would still get crap. And I'm questioning the Chinese company privacy for us users especially for that little storm last year. Not saying they are spying but I don't trust them on where my personal data will end up: in the hands of the company or their government.
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Flying Fox said:
Thank you for this detailed review of your experiences. Yes, link doesn't´t work. But I just had time to take pictures in raw for post processing via lightroom. I must really say, not that big step coming from OP 6 a I had expected. So I will keep your opinion in mind. Thx!!
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https://youtu.be/S4UHq_4jAGM
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Just in short summary: after Huawei Honor 7 and P10 I will never everly ever go back to Huawei absolutely ever again. Not in this lifetime anyway...
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I only had bad experience with Huawei Honor 7 and P10. Not only did the hardware made my life into misery, but also the software (read EMUI). Honor 7 was an unfinished phone as it was beta, and P10s hardware went first crap (the battery bulked over time in my pocket so bad that you could see the battery cells because of the gap). So the Swedish repaircompany fixed it by replacing with new screen and battery but screwed up the dualcamera so it takes blurry pics which means shipping to service one extra time.
This Samsung, which is my first Samsung phone, is probably the best phone so far I ever had. I only can remember one phone that was this good (out of all phones I've had), and that was iPhone 5s. Had also Nexus 4 but here in Europe Google was cheap with only 16 GB ROM instead of 32. Shame...
Also, I'm still waiting for Android Pie for my Huawei P10 which will probably never come. And it doesn't matter since the EMUI would still get crap. And I'm questioning the Chinese company privacy for us users especially for that little storm last year. Not saying they are spying but I don't trust them on where my personal data will end up: in the hands of the company or their government.
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I'm sorry you had a bad experience and that you are projecting so much negativity...everyone has their opinion. But just my 2cents : Huawei since the p10 or H7 have gone a long way. Thus the reason that they are the second biggest selling phone company today.. and heading up quickly to bite on Samsung in the next 2 years. Huawei's P20P, M20P & Kirin 980 have been hailed for innovation, build quality and picture quality. Now, if i could have Oxygen OS on a Huawei, that would be a dream come true.
Last point : the ones that had "confirmed" spying issues last year was not Huawei but Oneplus (i company that i really like NDLR). Also, just "FYI", Samsung sells Snapdragon phones right? Only in the US. Exynos in the rest (except China). Oneplus, also a chinese company, who also should abide by the so called chinese law : "that companies need to help the government if needed". Are in the USA... ask yourself this : "oneplus + snapdragon = US, Huawei + Kirin = not US". Why? And hum, i think that there is a kind of "Trade War" happening right now, right? When you want to hurt a country : hit it's economy, who's one of the biggest company in China? Huawei. And this week Huawei filled for a lawsuit against the US government, that their restrictions are non "constitutional".
Any how, sorry i hijacked your thread to clarify some things about this "China is spying on us" BS. All government are spying on everyone.
Now let's see this p30p, there are gonna be haters and lovers... like every brand.
Peace out.
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The P30 pro comes in at 999 euro with a year old SoC, widely hated skin, a second class Samsung 1080p display(no excuse for the price).
Even ignoring the fact that the S10+ is a superior all-round package (even more with the 10% student discount) I think Huawei is shooting itself in the foot by trying to jump on the ultra flagship pricing train, their reputation has been thanks to the good value they offered, which is gone.
I spent a day comparing my phone with a relative's mate 20 pro, the latter is a very ambitious device but it falls short in every category except face recognition, which I don't use and has been proven to be a flawed protocol on even the most secured devices.
If you check my guide you can see my 15h SoT result and how it can be achieved, the p20 pro has a theoretically bigger(100mah) battery yet it gets nowhere close due to the uncompetitive SoC and software.
Huawei doesn't and never will allow unlocked bootloaders, I wouldn't recommend their services even if they offered the best choices, they're still far from that and their anti-consumer behaviour needs to be heavily punished.
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Ok, understood. These are the reasons, why I´m (still) skeptical with the brand Huawei.
And yes, I checked your guide, just haven´t hit the thanks bottom yet .
Norsehawk said:
I only had bad experience with Huawei Honor 7 and P10. Not only did the hardware made my life into misery, but also the software (read EMUI). Honor 7 was an unfinished phone as it was beta, and P10s hardware went first crap (the battery bulked over time in my pocket so bad that you could see the battery cells because of the gap). So the Swedish repaircompany fixed it by replacing with new screen and battery but screwed up the dualcamera so it takes blurry pics which means shipping to service one extra time.
This Samsung, which is my first Samsung phone, is probably the best phone so far I ever had. I only can remember one phone that was this good (out of all phones I've had), and that was iPhone 5s. Had also Nexus 4 but here in Europe Google was cheap with only 16 GB ROM instead of 32. Shame...
Also, I'm still waiting for Android Pie for my Huawei P10 which will probably never come. And it doesn't matter since the EMUI would still get crap. And I'm questioning the Chinese company privacy for us users especially for that little storm last year. Not saying they are spying but I don't trust them on where my personal data will end up: in the hands of the company or their government.
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Essentially, I agree with you. However, I think that a lot has happened since the P10. Anyway, I agree that from a price point of view, Huawei's move is more than brave, even though I think you already get what you pay for. After all, with the P30 pro seems to come a sonos speaker for free (pre-order) .. if you need it. Yes, I know, this argument is rather weak ..
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https://youtu.be/S4UHq_4jAGM
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Thank you for the link again.
As the question arises, when the first movies are made with the Pro XX - as once with the Canon 5D Mark II (or III?). Anyway, this quality goes beyond my mind and what I learned in physics lessons decades ago - but really good video! Thx!
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https://youtu.be/S4UHq_4jAGM
Try this....
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I'm sorry you had a bad experience and that you are projecting so much negativity...everyone has their opinion. But just my 2cents : Huawei since the p10 or H7 have gone a long way. Thus the reason that they are the second biggest selling phone company today.. and heading up quickly to bite on Samsung in the next 2 years. Huawei's P20P, M20P & Kirin 980 have been hailed for innovation, build quality and picture quality. Now, if i could have Oxygen OS on a Huawei, that would be a dream come true.
Last point : the ones that had "confirmed" spying issues last year was not Huawei but Oneplus (i company that i really like NDLR). Also, just "FYI", Samsung sells Snapdragon phones right? Only in the US. Exynos in the rest (except China). Oneplus, also a chinese company, who also should abide by the so called chinese law : "that companies need to help the government if needed". Are in the USA... ask yourself this : "oneplus + snapdragon = US, Huawei + Kirin = not US". Why? And hum, i think that there is a kind of "Trade War" happening right now, right? When you want to hurt a country : hit it's economy, who's one of the biggest company in China? Huawei. And this week Huawei filled for a lawsuit against the US government, that their restrictions are non "constitutional".
Any how, sorry i hijacked your thread to clarify some things about this "China is spying on us" BS. All government are spying on everyone.
Now let's see this p30p, there are gonna be haters and lovers... like every brand.
Peace out.
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I know that many do espionage. Where do you think your fingerprints have been storaged since the iPhone 5s and up? Not at Foxconn or China... But I rather give my fingerprints to US and South Korea than China - if I need to choose.
Well, I have tasted two Huawei-models, also P9. P20 just a bit, not bad phone but the camera wasn't captured natural photos. Seemed like they were afteredited with layers automatically which they are (if you read some reviews). If I want to edit photos I refuse that the phone edit it FOR me. And some photos don't need to be edited at all because you will ruin them.
My P10 was an OK phone, but comparing with this Samsung it's like having a phone out of completely different galaxy. And one more thing to clarify: I don't hate Huawei, but I don't like shady business no matter what company.
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https://youtu.be/S4UHq_4jAGM
Try this....
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Thank you for the link again.
As the question arises, when the first movies are made with the Pro XX - as once with the Canon 5D Mark II (or III?). Anyway, this quality goes beyond my mind and what I learned in physics lessons decades ago - but really good video! Thx!
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Huawei has a history of lying about video footages or photos they made their brand ambassadors advertise, we as users have absolutely no reason to trust anything, they kept using DSLR content and splashing "taken with Huawei" on it, unacceptable.
The video in the link is just an example of reverse advertising, I expect the upcoming Huawei P30 pro's camera to be criticized in every single comparison that isn't sponsored, as it happened every time.
Flying Fox said:
Ok, understood. These are the reasons, why I´m (still) skeptical with the brand Huawei.
And yes, I checked your guide, just haven´t hit the thanks bottom yet .
Essentially, I agree with you. However, I think that a lot has happened since the P10. Anyway, I agree that from a price point of view, Huawei's move is more than brave, even though I think you already get what you pay for. After all, with the P30 pro seems to come a sonos speaker for free (pre-order) .. if you need it. Yes, I know, this argument is rather weak ..
SAO said:
https://youtu.be/S4UHq_4jAGM
Try this....
---------- Post added at 18:11 ---------- Previous post was at 17:51 ----------
Thank you for the link again.
As the question arises, when the first movies are made with the Pro XX - as once with the Canon 5D Mark II (or III?). Anyway, this quality goes beyond my mind and what I learned in physics lessons decades ago - but really good video! Thx!
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I just want premium, and now that also Huawei-phones costs almost as same amount as Samsung's, I would be silly if I picked Huawei imo. Surely have Huawei evolved since the P10 but I simply can't live with the EMUI anymore. And bringing Nova-launcher won't make me 100% satisfied either...
I really love new SGS10+ even with Exynos-chip that entire world have due to licensing issue (read 1993 contract between Sammy and Qualcy). Can say it works well, not bad att all. Fast too. [emoji6]
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My previous phone is mate 20 battery life is perfect like 8 hours sot and not warm now I have s10 plus us version screen time only 6 hours and phone feel very warm
Huawei Emui is awful. They make the bootloader unlockable. Screen not as good with issues