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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Huawei P20, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Huawei P20 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I like so many things about P20 and few don't, P20 pro is not worth the money even if it 3 cam or highest rated on DxO , I got Sony A7 full frame mirrorless which no future phone can match at least for next five years
Good: Dual SIM as standard with most UK retailer
Design, front fingerprint reader
8.1 out of box
Huawei's customer service
Dolby Atmos
Reasonable price and even better with £320 Bose headphones
4 GB ram is not flagship class but acceptable
Bad: poor IP rating
No autofocus front cam with wasted megapixel (24 MP) what's the point ?
No FM radio
No infrared
Screen resolution is ok but screen quality is not on par with Sony, Samsung, LG or HTC
main snapper is too good on paper but in actual test I found not much visible improvement compared with last year's model
Given the size of battery , the battery life will dafinatly not better than P20 pro, Mate 10 pro, OnePlus 5, or Galaxy S9
Given the scenario I will go with Huawei mate 10 pro
onlinejobwork said:
I like so many things about P20 and few don't, P20 pro is not worth the money even if it 3 cam or highest rated on DxO , I got Sony A7 full frame mirrorless which no future phone can match at least for next five years
Good: Dual SIM as standard with most UK retailer
Design, front fingerprint reader
8.1 out of box
Huawei's customer service
Dolby Atmos
Reasonable price and even better with £320 Bose headphones
4 GB ram is not flagship class but acceptable
Bad: poor IP rating
No autofocus front cam with wasted megapixel (24 MP) what's the point ?
No FM radio
No infrared
Screen resolution is ok but screen quality is not on par with Sony, Samsung, LG or HTC
main snapper is too good on paper but in actual test I found not much visible improvement compared with last year's model
Given the size of battery , the battery life will dafinatly not better than P20 pro, Mate 10 pro, OnePlus 5, or Galaxy S9
Given the scenario I will go with Huawei mate 10 pro
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Full Huawei range
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onlinejobwork said:
Full Huawei range
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Just found out that device sold by retailer like Voda, EE, cpw does have micro SD slot and NOT have dual SIM
onlinejobwork said:
Just found out that device sold by retailer like Voda, EE, cpw does have micro SD slot and NOT have dual SIM
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is this confirmed somewhere? Does anybody sell it dualsim in the UK?
I preordered mine from cpw and will surely return it if it's not dualsim as it's a dealbreaker for me.
varignet said:
is this confirmed somewhere? Does anybody sell it dualsim in the UK?
I preordered mine from cpw and will surely return it if it's not dualsim as it's a dealbreaker for me.
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Same here, Carphonewarehouse one is NOT dual SIM , big disappointment
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varignet said:
is this confirmed somewhere? Does anybody sell it dualsim in the UK?
I preordered mine from cpw and will surely return it if it's not dualsim as it's a dealbreaker for me.
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I can confined , I got mine yesterday and it's not dual SIM
Anyone else having serious lag in Google maps?
Previously: Huawei messed something up in the past on P10 and map on satellite mode worked like s**t but they fixed on Emui 8.
However now on my P20 everything is slow and freezes in Google Maps, will check logcat for anything strange.
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Anyone else having serious lag in Google maps?
Previously: Huawei messed something up in the past on P10 and map on satellite mode worked like s**t but they fixed on Emui 8.
However now on my P20 everything is slow and freezes in Google Maps, will check logcat for anything strange.
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I don't have any issues with Maps on my P20 paul678, Satellite view does however take 2-3 seconds to load but is fine after that.
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I don't have any issues with Maps on my P20 paul678, Satellite view does however take 2-3 seconds to load but is fine after that.
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For me the map itself is ok, scroll/pan/zoom works pretty well.
The problems appear when pressing the top search..that takes some time to react and a similar problem when doing a long press to drop a pin and then try to open the bottom sheet that contains details.
Can you check to see if you have problems with the above mentioned scenarios?
Love this handset overall. Battery life is great, camera is great, screen is great, sound is great (which was a big bone of contention with me coming from LG V20!).
Please add section on real-life review for Audio Quality! Both speaker and headphones (wired and wireless!).
P20 Lcd Problem(yellow screen where the navigation buttons are)
Hi Xda
First of all i want to say that the lcd screen looks great BUT i replaced my device for a third time but still no luck... The screen on the virtualbuttons is yellowish then the rest of the screen... Its the screen just above the touchbutton or on the virtual navigation buttons... Does someone has this also please comment, thank you!
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Hi Xda
First of all i want to say that the lcd screen looks great BUT i replaced my device for a third time but still no luck... The screen on the virtualbuttons is yellowish then the rest of the screen... Its the screen just above the touchbutton or on the virtual navigation buttons... Does someone has this also please comment, thank you!
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Hi, I deactivated the on screen buttons a while ago, find more convenient using the multifunctional home button. I had the impression of yellow on the buttons bar also before, more a software issue to me.
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bolof2 said:
Hi, I deactivated the on screen buttons
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Its still yellow without the screenbuttons i just wanted to explain where the yellowish area is located. Received 3rd device still problem occurs, im switching to iphone x
I replaced my Zuk Z2 Pro with the P20. French n°1 telecom company made a price mistake and sold it for 249€ for about 15 minutes. It was the perfect occasion to change my phone.
Pros :
- Screen. Quality is just under the Z2 Pro AMOLED, but it's nice, big, reactive.
- Battery. It lasts way longer than what became the Z2 Pro battery
- Power. Obviously, nowadays, every phone allows you to do everything quickly when you're not into gaming
- Quality. The phone looks like it's perfectly build.
- Huawei offers, in France, the Freebuds with the phone (12 weeks to receive them, so I don't know if they are good)
- Bundle is nice : silicon case and noise reduction earphones (I don't like them, but
Cons :
- EMUI. I've been on custom ROMs over the last 5 years, and, OMG, it's very hard to be on a OEM ROM with so many limitation. Simply expand notification on the lockscreen or skipping a track with Vol+ or - is impossible. It induces erratic behaviour in some apps (no notifications from Telegram, even if all parameters are the same than Whatsapp), etc...
- Locked bootloader. I missed the news of Huawei preventing unlocking after the 25th of July. I hope there will be a solution soon for that.
- The charger. Every other charger than a SuperCharge one will charge the phone veeeeeeeeery slowly. My car charger, 2,1A, can't even charge the phone when Waze is on... My QC3 power bank becomes almost useless. As soon as the battery of the P20 will last less than a day, I will be annoyed. I hope it will never happen.
- Size : it's 4mm higher than the Zuk Z2 Pro, and it's 4mm too much. To fit in my pocket, the perfect size is 145mm.
- Phone Clone did not work with my Zuk Z2 Pro, it was a pain to import all the datas
- No SD card : risk of losing everything if the telephone is lost or whatever. To retrieve datas from one phone to another, SD Card is the most practicle
I'm waiting for the Mi 8 SE to be released in France with the right LTE frequencies, or an equivalent phone. I'll then sell my P20.
Excelente!
paul678 said:
For me the map itself is ok, scroll/pan/zoom works pretty well.
The problems appear when pressing the top search..that takes some time to react and a similar problem when doing a long press to drop a pin and then try to open the bottom sheet that contains details.
Can you check to see if you have problems with the above mentioned scenarios?
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I have exactly same problems as you describe, but to be noted: I did not update the phone since I first started it so... that might be the problem because it is urging me to update like every day (and the fix might be in some later build)....
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I have exactly same problems as you describe, but to be noted: I did not update the phone since I first started it so... that might be the problem because it is urging me to update like every day (and the fix might be in some later build)....
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Lol should probably update
I never thought of this as a "flagship" phone and honestly it isn't. It's an expensive mid-range device.
As far as rating from 1 (worst) to 5 (best)
1. Screen - 5 Sharp and colorful. I like this display, I think Huawei phones with LCDs are top notch screens, their Amoled screens they use are not so much.
2. form/size/ - 4 Perfect size for those who aren't looking for a large device- People coming from Samsung Note, and Pluses, iPhone pluses- look elswhere, this phone will feel significantly smaller. Still not 5 though. The aspect ratio is just kinda weird. I actually wish if was wider a bit, because using it landscape mode in navigation, half the screen is gone with the GPS GUI with the map is only 1/3, same issue with lots of other apps. This problem isn't only this phone specific, many other phones narrowing down their display size, like its some sort of a trend now, I'm not very happy about it.
3. Operating system - 2 While it has improved over the last couple of years, EMUI is still laggy. I can't pinpoint the real issue, since I'm not a developer but it seems like touch /sensitivy issues. I saw some complains regarding dead areas/less sensitive spots on some Huawei devices, and it seems like a recurring problem on more than just one model. There is also that sense of lacking fluidity. Anyone who used pure Google Android or near stock, or iOS or even Touchwiz will notice a sense of disconnect between touch input and reaction time in EMUI, and sometimes hang ups and delays, other times it's reacting too fast . It's hard to demonstrate, because even if someone would make a video, it's more of a feeling kinda thing, while using the device, a video wouldn't really show the issue.
There is also a sense of incompatibility while using even popular apps, whether they lag at some point or the app has to be restarted or even crash. Or have the app work as intended and then suspended in memory, return and the app would lag or just hang up, forcing me to quit and restart.
This happened to me more than once, and not only on the P20, but on an older Honor device. I have to blame EMUI because Chinese phones running near stock Android but similar hardware (or even weaker chipset) does not exhibit the same behavior.
4. Camera (rear) - 4.5 Can't give 5, because after a month of using this phone, there are time when the camera also lags, gets frozen or behaves erratically. To be on the positive note, this happens rarely, but it happens I'd say 1 out of 30 times the camera is launched. This might be a combination of apps loaded in the background while the camera is launched /re-launched or the phone is putting apps to sleep and just can't react quickly to user input, I don't know. Otherwise when it works, it makes remarkable shots, very "Instagram worthy" ones, although some people will probably turn off the AI to produce more realistic shots instead of Lord of the Rings style fantasy scenery. Jokes aside, the camera on this can be easily match the top flagships of 2018 phones, although personally I still prefer Samsung phone cameras work . And just for reference, I don't like iPhone _____cameras either (insert any iPhone since 2010), with their yellow/brownish tint applied on everything and under or over exposed shots and no control over anything user unfriendliness.
5. Camera (front)- 3. I don't really use it much, but the few times I tried it, it's made for selfie maniacs with all beauty modes, even with the beauty mode off, it still looks like it applies something. Blonde hair can show up as reddish for some reason, other times people I took selfies with noticed, that their eyebrows were missing. Funny as it sounds, the phone tries to Photoshop you aggressively without your consent, depending on the lighting conditions, but otherwise the selfie camera I'd rate it average, because it's more of a trend, even the newest iphones produce selifes, that are love it or hate it, depending on what the user is looking for.
6. Battery: - 4. By 2018 standards, it's average to very good. I see some people complain about 4-5 hours of screen on time, others report up to 8. I personally got about 5-6hrs and standby time is amazing. I'm sure EMUI has an aggressive power management, which may save plenty of battery life, but I suspect it may be also the culprit some of the issues regarding system performance and app management.
6. Overall : - 3.75 out of 5. After using several phones in 2018, including cheap budget phones to the iPhone X and back to mid range, this phone is no way and no how a flagship phone. It's a an expensive top-mid-range device. It's neither anything special, nor mediocre. Recommended for people coming from Apple and have absolutely zero skill using an Android. I also think, it's overpriced, especially right now (2019 January).
* Extra note: The vibrator. Very 2013-ish. Huawei needs to learn to implement a better taptic engine. iPhones are unbeatable in it, probably their best feature. The buzzing feel just don't cut it anymore. As I heard Pixels have them well, and some of the newer Motorola phones have it well done and they are cheaper. It gives a whole new dimension to the device to have a good haptic feedback. This phone buzzer/vibrator just feels kinda cheap and obsolete.
I agree with dollarpapa, P20 is a decent phone but nothing remarkable really. I bought it 6 months ago for a beefy price tag of 545 euros, it costs around 450 euros now. The main reason I picked p20 at that time was the camera, it was the 2nd best rated camera according to dxomark and bunch of youtubers.
My thoughts in brief:
1. Camera: Really good at night. Not great during the day.
2. Screen: pretty bright and crisp, however Amoleds are always more appealing.
3. Battery: very good.
4. UI: garbage. Like others have mentioned, there is a minor touch lag that kills the smoothness compared to say og Pixel.
5. Speed: the storage is really fast, that means apps open up really quick. Memory management is horrible, worse than og Pixel.
Overall I'd say don't buy this phone in 2019 unless you want it only for night time pictures. A decent alternative is Galaxy S9 without sacrificing much in terms of camera quality. For performance, I'd go with Pocophone f1,but the camera will be much worse.
The question goes to those who have experience with both the Huawei mate 20 Pro and the Samsung S10 +.
I myself come from Oneplus 6 and have preordered the S10 + (Exynos, Ceramic black, 512 GB) to get the additional earbuds. Now Samsung has informed me that this preorder - promotion cannot be claimed for me, because I ordered via Amazon (although this was advertised on Amazon). "Relatively" seen the S10 + is therefore still too expensive (in fact that I now have to buy the ear buds additional). On the other hand the price of the S10+ has already fallen by about 100 €, so the "preorder" was without any sense for me.
Now I've considered two options. Either return the S10 + and buy it later (when it's cheaper) or consider the upcoming Huawei P30 pro.
Therefore I´m interested in experiences from those, who know Samsung and Huawei. I have to say that I am very satisfied with the S10 + itself. In particular, in the following points:
+ great feel and look, in Ceramic black it looks just fantastic and feels very high quality
+ display just great
+ battery drain (8-10h SOT over 1 1/2 days or about 5h SOT over 2 1/2 days)
+ All around functionality
+ beautiful user interface (dark theme, dialer...) and intuitive menu
+ camera. The raw files are only slightly better than the O6. The jpegs are more than ok.
+ Stereo sound and sound quality (especially sound enhancement setting for listening to music - not as good as viper4android, but sufficient and noticeably better than what I've known before)
+/- Overall speed, but only marginally faster than my OP6, wifi even much slower, but I can live with that.
+/- "bloat ware" incl. Bixby, in total not so useless
How does the Huawei mate 20 pro behave in these points - haptic, display, colors, user interface, quality, functionality, sound quality etc in terms of what I would expect with a Huawei 30 pro. Although this will certainly be a great smartphone, I'm a bit skeptical. Just because I'm really excited about Samsung for the first time.
Root is required for my choice (titanium backup and some other apps that require root). I really want to get away from custom roms. In this regard, I feel at Samsung for the first time really arrived - hence the interest or the question of the overall feeling at Huawei. I do not really care about the brands themselves, so I do not want to start any "fan boy" discussions.
I would be very thankful about your opinion or your experiences!
Flying Fox said:
The question goes to those who have experience with both the Huawei mate 20 Pro and the Samsung S10 +.
I myself come from Oneplus 6 and have preordered the S10 + (Exynos, Ceramic black, 512 GB) to get the additional earbuds. Now Samsung has informed me that this preorder - promotion cannot be claimed for me, because I ordered via Amazon (although this was advertised on Amazon). "Relatively" seen the S10 + is therefore still too expensive (in fact that I now have to buy the ear buds additional). On the other hand the price of the S10+ has already fallen by about 100 €, so the "preorder" was without any sense for me.
Now I've considered two options. Either return the S10 + and buy it later (when it's cheaper) or consider the upcoming Huawei P30 pro.
Therefore I´m interested in experiences from those, who know Samsung and Huawei. I have to say that I am very satisfied with the S10 + itself. In particular, in the following points:
+ great feel and look, in Ceramic black it looks just fantastic and feels very high quality Ceramic Black is 1500 Euros (so is white) ; on the other hand, the rugged feel of Blue and Greeen Mate 20 Pro feel great , no prints , no grease
+ display just great I also like the S10 plus display, but I like Note 9 more and also Mate 20 Pro feels more vibrant (it totally depends on preference)
+ battery drain (8-10h SOT over 1 1/2 days or about 5h SOT over 2 1/2 days) : no flagship beats Mate 20 Pro in terms of battery life (this is kind of end of story, no BUTS), never feared I could remain uncovered
+ All around functionality Samsung is Better here, everything is done directly, no tweaks needed (except for the Infrared remote of the Huwaei, which I used)
+ beautiful user interface (dark theme, dialer...) and intuitive menu : Samsung better here, no doubt (except for the fact that Huawei supports large almost full screen caller images, while Samsung is stubborn again)
+ camera. The raw files are only slightly better than the O6. The jpegs are more than ok. : camera on Mate 20 Pro has no match. You should personally have both phones and see for yourself. The portraits dont have a match on any phone.
+ Stereo sound and sound quality (especially sound enhancement setting for listening to music - not as good as viper4android, but sufficient and noticeably better than what I've known before) : Sound quality better on S10 plus, finally fixed the loudness, now you can here the notifications ( I had to use Volume booster on Note 9)
+/- Overall speed, but only marginally faster than my OP6, wifi even much slower, but I can live with that. : Unnoticeable , both feel great and move fast
+/- "bloat ware" incl. Bixby, in total not so useless : Huawei doesnt have this issue.
How does the Huawei mate 20 pro behave in these points - haptic, display, colors, user interface, quality, functionality, sound quality etc in terms of what I would expect with a Huawei 30 pro. Although this will certainly be a great smartphone, I'm a bit skeptical. Just because I'm really excited about Samsung for the first time.
Hey there man, I have answered point by point to your questions. I should also add a few "small" things :
- Huawei has better notifications: way better! With Samsung , when you dismiss the notifications from the bar, ALL app badges clear and you soon forget (of course) where you had unread notifs. This is the most annoying thing about Android 9 on Samsung. You can work around this by installing Microsoft Launcher.
- In my opinion the fingerprint reader on Mate 20 Pro is better (even if it is optical) and better placed. With Samsung you have to lower you finger too much and lose the grip on the phone
- on S10 family there is no notification LED , Samsung gave that up. I hope Huawei will not be that dumb with the P30. There is a workaround as well called Always on Edge.
In conclusion, I now have the S10 plus, selling the Mate 20 Pro. For MY needs (and only for that), Mate 20 Pro is the better phone. But I get bored from time to time, so here I am )
Cheers and good luck!
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leoking3 said:
Hey there man, I have answered point by point to your questions. I should also add a few "small" things :
- Huawei has better notifications: way better! With Samsung , when you dismiss the notifications from the bar, ALL app badges clear and you soon forget (of course) where you had unread notifs. This is the most annoying thing about Android 9 on Samsung. You can work around this by installing Microsoft Launcher.
- In my opinion the fingerprint reader on Mate 20 Pro is better (even if it is optical) and better placed. With Samsung you have to lower you finger too much and lose the grip on the phone
- on S10 family there is no notification LED , Samsung gave that up. I hope Huawei will not be that dumb with the P30. There is a workaround as well called Always on Edge.
In conclusion, I now have the S10 plus, selling the Mate 20 Pro. For MY needs (and only for that), Mate 20 Pro is the better phone. But I get bored from time to time, so here I am )
Cheers and good luck!
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Thanks, where can I find your point by point answer? Searched the forum (of course), but without success.
Yes, I know about the other "issues" as I still have the S10+. Fingerprint reader is ok for me, and notification LED not that important for me. As I said I am very satisfied with the S10 +. Apart from the fact that my pre-order at the corresponding starting price was a flop I now also consider the Huawei flagship. Hence my interest explicitly in the above points.
Thanks again
EDIT: sorry, just saw your answers in your quote above - my fault
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Thanks, where can I find your point by point answer? Searched the forum (of course), but without success.
Yes, I know about the other "issues" as I still have the S10+. Fingerprint reader is ok for me, and notification LED not that important for me. As I said I am very satisfied with the S10 +. Apart from the fact that my pre-order at the corresponding starting price was a flop I now also consider the Huawei flagship. Hence my interest explicitly in the above points.
Thanks again
EDIT: sorry, just saw your answers in your quote above - my fault
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Hey man no worries, glad we share the same opinion to some point. Anyway, I am sure P30 pro will still have a better camera, cause once they started an algorithm, they will most probably stick to it. As for Samsung, the notifications stuff is driving me nuts, as it is the only manufacturer to do that and dismiss all/clear all BS. Other than that goodlooking and great phone , the S10 plus.
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Hey man no worries, glad we share the same opinion to some point. Anyway, I am sure P30 pro will still have a better camera, cause once they started an algorithm, they will most probably stick to it. As for Samsung, the notifications stuff is driving me nuts, as it is the only manufacturer to do that and dismiss all/clear all BS. Other than that goodlooking and great phone , the S10 plus.
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Once again your answers reflected, I would like to thank you for your effort. They confirm my assumptions.
On the battery life: I had never really problems and that of the S10 + is more than sufficient.
To the camera: this is really very important to me, but not at the expense of the overall package. I do not understand the good picture quality of the Huawei´s completely. How can it be so good with such a high-resolution sensor? I usually shoot with a Nikon D850, similar pixel count, but correspondingly large full-frame sensor. And apart from that, no smartphone lens can put that resolution on a sheet of paper. The Huawei P30 will have a 10x optical zoom. That's nice, but it also means that light has to pass through more lenses. All the more surprising how Huawei software succeeds in getting such good results.
The overall package: if there scores the S10 +, then the decision should be clear to me. I'll wait for the 26th of May and the following reviews; but for the first time I'm really impressed with Samsung's operating system. By that I mean the functionality as a whole, the display and sound quality. The latter is even with Bluetooth headphones better than anything I've ever known (as I said, except for viper4android).
Let's wait and see. What a pity that I do not have the opportunity to take a Huawei in my own hands.
Correct, not much else to add. As for the lenses, I dont understand the whole process, and the whole aperture stuff (I do, but not in detail), but I see the final result, which is great. And yes, that is what excited me too, cause last year was boring from the Samsung perspective...this series of new phones, they did it! And I ve been using the Galaxy series since S1. So...we ll see what happens on 26Mar and after . Take care!
I would wait and see for the p30pro.
I use both at the moment. Honestly aside from the crazy Samsung display I'm kind of disappointed...
Almost the same camera setup as s9+ and note9.
8nm (exynose) Vs 7nm on the SD and m20p version.
Battery is not really stable (I've had mine since the 8th: you can see various reports on this here on XDA and Reddit (apparently the SD doesn't have that much issues).
Overall a good package, honestly. But I also think they could of done better...and still the same 15w charger!! Coming from a 6T and M20p....it's crazy they don't have more powerful chargers today!
Huawei is really innovating now (taking risks), Sammy is securing their position and oneplus is growing fast and being very open minded. Three different approaches.
Root...apparently there are issues with the new rooting procedure on exynos. But I guess we'll have to wait on JohnWu. Forget that on Huawei's side...getting root is hell, even bootloader unlocked. Only some can do it, but you need to go the funkyhuawei path.
Honestly, I don't need root anymore, phones are mostly optimized, not like in the past. And endurance is better every year. It takes me around 1h30 configure/reload all.my apps on a new phone.
Camera...hmm, that was my only weak point on the 6T, tried all the versions of the gcam, the sensor was to small, lenses not good...so even if you put a Porsche engine in a fiat500, it's a fiat500.
Huawei cameras you or love them or hate them. BUT apparently Huawei is coming out with the new Sony sensor, ToF, 10x optical, and most probably some other surprises...I just hoped OEMs would understand how important is a monochrome lense for all that it could bring in. Till today portraits are better on the p20pro than the m20pro...but that's my opinion, except of course the pixel 3XL. Which for me must have a voodoo magic camera processing system.
Notifications, i was really pissed with the m20p...but at least it has a led (lol). There were bugs here in there..but Voilà, no perfect phones exist. Annoyed to double tap on my screen on the S10+ to see my notifications (I don't use AOD, 1% battery/hour).
Battery, CPU. I've realised that a phone today needs to learn from you (your habits, app usage, etc..) and here the Kirin 980 & pie is a monster setup...it really does something in the back ground. Not sure about the S10+ yet...I need to give it time. But battery, till.today nothing gets close to me m20p.
The new display on the p30p is reported to be a Samsung...so it might be great. Let's see.. 4 days to go.
In the meantime check this out, people are saying it was done on the p30p (no idea how long they took.on post processing, but still..impressive!)
No idea why the YouTube link isn't working...
Just in short summary: after Huawei Honor 7 and P10 I will never everly ever go back to Huawei absolutely ever again. Not in this lifetime anyway...
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Flying Fox said:
Thanks, where can I find your point by point answer? Searched the forum (of course), but without success.
Yes, I know about the other "issues" as I still have the S10+. Fingerprint reader is ok for me, and notification LED not that important for me. As I said I am very satisfied with the S10 +. Apart from the fact that my pre-order at the corresponding starting price was a flop I now also consider the Huawei flagship. Hence my interest explicitly in the above points.
Thanks again
EDIT: sorry, just saw your answers in your quote above - my fault
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I have Android Pie on my S8+ and notifications don't behave like that. If i clear a new message notifaction I still have app icon badges that show me the number of messages I have not read.
SAO said:
I would wait and see for the p30pro.
I use both at the moment. Honestly aside from the crazy Samsung display I'm kind of disappointed...
Almost the same camera setup as s9+ and note9.
8nm (exynose) Vs 7nm on the SD and m20p version.
Battery is not really stable (I've had mine since the 8th: you can see various reports on this here on XDA and Reddit (apparently the SD doesn't have that much issues).
Overall a good package, honestly. But I also think they could of done better...and still the same 15w charger!! Coming from a 6T and M20p....it's crazy they don't have more powerful chargers today!
Huawei is really innovating now (taking risks), Sammy is securing their position and oneplus is growing fast and being very open minded. Three different approaches.
Root...apparently there are issues with the new rooting procedure on exynos. But I guess we'll have to wait on JohnWu. Forget that on Huawei's side...getting root is hell, even bootloader unlocked. Only some can do it, but you need to go the funkyhuawei path.
Honestly, I don't need root anymore, phones are mostly optimized, not like in the past. And endurance is better every year. It takes me around 1h30 configure/reload all.my apps on a new phone.
Camera...hmm, that was my only weak point on the 6T, tried all the versions of the gcam, the sensor was to small, lenses not good...so even if you put a Porsche engine in a fiat500, it's a fiat500.
Huawei cameras you or love them or hate them. BUT apparently Huawei is coming out with the new Sony sensor, ToF, 10x optical, and most probably some other surprises...I just hoped OEMs would understand how important is a monochrome lense for all that it could bring in. Till today portraits are better on the p20pro than the m20pro...but that's my opinion, except of course the pixel 3XL. Which for me must have a voodoo magic camera processing system.
Notifications, i was really pissed with the m20p...but at least it has a led (lol). There were bugs here in there..but Voilà, no perfect phones exist. Annoyed to double tap on my screen on the S10+ to see my notifications (I don't use AOD, 1% battery/hour).
Battery, CPU. I've realised that a phone today needs to learn from you (your habits, app usage, etc..) and here the Kirin 980 & pie is a monster setup...it really does something in the back ground. Not sure about the S10+ yet...I need to give it time. But battery, till.today nothing gets close to me m20p.
The new display on the p30p is reported to be a Samsung...so it might be great. Let's see.. 4 days to go.
In the meantime check this out, people are saying it was done on the p30p (no idea how long they took.on post processing, but still..impressive!)
No idea why the YouTube link isn't working...
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Thank you for this detailed review of your experiences. Yes, link doesn't´t work. But I just had time to take pictures in raw for post processing via lightroom. I must really say, not that big step coming from OP 6 a I had expected. So I will keep your opinion in mind. Thx!!
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Just in short summary: after Huawei Honor 7 and P10 I will never everly ever go back to Huawei absolutely ever again. Not in this lifetime anyway...
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Could I ask you what was wrong with Huawei (and which model) in your opinion?
The P30 pro comes in at 999 euro with a year old SoC, widely hated skin, a second class Samsung 1080p display(no excuse for the price).
Even ignoring the fact that the S10+ is a superior all-round package (even more with the 10% student discount) I think Huawei is shooting itself in the foot by trying to jump on the ultra flagship pricing train, their reputation has been thanks to the good value they offered, which is gone.
I spent a day comparing my phone with a relative's mate 20 pro, the latter is a very ambitious device but it falls short in every category except face recognition, which I don't use and has been proven to be a flawed protocol on even the most secured devices.
If you check my guide you can see my 15h SoT result and how it can be achieved, the p20 pro has a theoretically bigger(100mah) battery yet it gets nowhere close due to the uncompetitive SoC and software.
Huawei doesn't and never will allow unlocked bootloaders, I wouldn't recommend their services even if they offered the best choices, they're still far from that and their anti-consumer behaviour needs to be heavily punished.
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I only had bad experience with Huawei Honor 7 and P10. Not only did the hardware made my life into misery, but also the software (read EMUI). Honor 7 was an unfinished phone as it was beta, and P10s hardware went first crap (the battery bulked over time in my pocket so bad that you could see the battery cells because of the gap). So the Swedish repaircompany fixed it by replacing with new screen and battery but screwed up the dualcamera so it takes blurry pics which means shipping to service one extra time.
This Samsung, which is my first Samsung phone, is probably the best phone so far I ever had. I only can remember one phone that was this good (out of all phones I've had), and that was iPhone 5s. Had also Nexus 4 but here in Europe Google was cheap with only 16 GB ROM instead of 32. Shame...
Also, I'm still waiting for Android Pie for my Huawei P10 which will probably never come. And it doesn't matter since the EMUI would still get crap. And I'm questioning the Chinese company privacy for us users especially for that little storm last year. Not saying they are spying but I don't trust them on where my personal data will end up: in the hands of the company or their government.
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Thank you for this detailed review of your experiences. Yes, link doesn't´t work. But I just had time to take pictures in raw for post processing via lightroom. I must really say, not that big step coming from OP 6 a I had expected. So I will keep your opinion in mind. Thx!!
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Just in short summary: after Huawei Honor 7 and P10 I will never everly ever go back to Huawei absolutely ever again. Not in this lifetime anyway...
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I only had bad experience with Huawei Honor 7 and P10. Not only did the hardware made my life into misery, but also the software (read EMUI). Honor 7 was an unfinished phone as it was beta, and P10s hardware went first crap (the battery bulked over time in my pocket so bad that you could see the battery cells because of the gap). So the Swedish repaircompany fixed it by replacing with new screen and battery but screwed up the dualcamera so it takes blurry pics which means shipping to service one extra time.
This Samsung, which is my first Samsung phone, is probably the best phone so far I ever had. I only can remember one phone that was this good (out of all phones I've had), and that was iPhone 5s. Had also Nexus 4 but here in Europe Google was cheap with only 16 GB ROM instead of 32. Shame...
Also, I'm still waiting for Android Pie for my Huawei P10 which will probably never come. And it doesn't matter since the EMUI would still get crap. And I'm questioning the Chinese company privacy for us users especially for that little storm last year. Not saying they are spying but I don't trust them on where my personal data will end up: in the hands of the company or their government.
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I'm sorry you had a bad experience and that you are projecting so much negativity...everyone has their opinion. But just my 2cents : Huawei since the p10 or H7 have gone a long way. Thus the reason that they are the second biggest selling phone company today.. and heading up quickly to bite on Samsung in the next 2 years. Huawei's P20P, M20P & Kirin 980 have been hailed for innovation, build quality and picture quality. Now, if i could have Oxygen OS on a Huawei, that would be a dream come true.
Last point : the ones that had "confirmed" spying issues last year was not Huawei but Oneplus (i company that i really like NDLR). Also, just "FYI", Samsung sells Snapdragon phones right? Only in the US. Exynos in the rest (except China). Oneplus, also a chinese company, who also should abide by the so called chinese law : "that companies need to help the government if needed". Are in the USA... ask yourself this : "oneplus + snapdragon = US, Huawei + Kirin = not US". Why? And hum, i think that there is a kind of "Trade War" happening right now, right? When you want to hurt a country : hit it's economy, who's one of the biggest company in China? Huawei. And this week Huawei filled for a lawsuit against the US government, that their restrictions are non "constitutional".
Any how, sorry i hijacked your thread to clarify some things about this "China is spying on us" BS. All government are spying on everyone.
Now let's see this p30p, there are gonna be haters and lovers... like every brand.
Peace out.
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The P30 pro comes in at 999 euro with a year old SoC, widely hated skin, a second class Samsung 1080p display(no excuse for the price).
Even ignoring the fact that the S10+ is a superior all-round package (even more with the 10% student discount) I think Huawei is shooting itself in the foot by trying to jump on the ultra flagship pricing train, their reputation has been thanks to the good value they offered, which is gone.
I spent a day comparing my phone with a relative's mate 20 pro, the latter is a very ambitious device but it falls short in every category except face recognition, which I don't use and has been proven to be a flawed protocol on even the most secured devices.
If you check my guide you can see my 15h SoT result and how it can be achieved, the p20 pro has a theoretically bigger(100mah) battery yet it gets nowhere close due to the uncompetitive SoC and software.
Huawei doesn't and never will allow unlocked bootloaders, I wouldn't recommend their services even if they offered the best choices, they're still far from that and their anti-consumer behaviour needs to be heavily punished.
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Ok, understood. These are the reasons, why I´m (still) skeptical with the brand Huawei.
And yes, I checked your guide, just haven´t hit the thanks bottom yet .
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I only had bad experience with Huawei Honor 7 and P10. Not only did the hardware made my life into misery, but also the software (read EMUI). Honor 7 was an unfinished phone as it was beta, and P10s hardware went first crap (the battery bulked over time in my pocket so bad that you could see the battery cells because of the gap). So the Swedish repaircompany fixed it by replacing with new screen and battery but screwed up the dualcamera so it takes blurry pics which means shipping to service one extra time.
This Samsung, which is my first Samsung phone, is probably the best phone so far I ever had. I only can remember one phone that was this good (out of all phones I've had), and that was iPhone 5s. Had also Nexus 4 but here in Europe Google was cheap with only 16 GB ROM instead of 32. Shame...
Also, I'm still waiting for Android Pie for my Huawei P10 which will probably never come. And it doesn't matter since the EMUI would still get crap. And I'm questioning the Chinese company privacy for us users especially for that little storm last year. Not saying they are spying but I don't trust them on where my personal data will end up: in the hands of the company or their government.
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Essentially, I agree with you. However, I think that a lot has happened since the P10. Anyway, I agree that from a price point of view, Huawei's move is more than brave, even though I think you already get what you pay for. After all, with the P30 pro seems to come a sonos speaker for free (pre-order) .. if you need it. Yes, I know, this argument is rather weak ..
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https://youtu.be/S4UHq_4jAGM
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Thank you for the link again.
As the question arises, when the first movies are made with the Pro XX - as once with the Canon 5D Mark II (or III?). Anyway, this quality goes beyond my mind and what I learned in physics lessons decades ago - but really good video! Thx!
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https://youtu.be/S4UHq_4jAGM
Try this....
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I'm sorry you had a bad experience and that you are projecting so much negativity...everyone has their opinion. But just my 2cents : Huawei since the p10 or H7 have gone a long way. Thus the reason that they are the second biggest selling phone company today.. and heading up quickly to bite on Samsung in the next 2 years. Huawei's P20P, M20P & Kirin 980 have been hailed for innovation, build quality and picture quality. Now, if i could have Oxygen OS on a Huawei, that would be a dream come true.
Last point : the ones that had "confirmed" spying issues last year was not Huawei but Oneplus (i company that i really like NDLR). Also, just "FYI", Samsung sells Snapdragon phones right? Only in the US. Exynos in the rest (except China). Oneplus, also a chinese company, who also should abide by the so called chinese law : "that companies need to help the government if needed". Are in the USA... ask yourself this : "oneplus + snapdragon = US, Huawei + Kirin = not US". Why? And hum, i think that there is a kind of "Trade War" happening right now, right? When you want to hurt a country : hit it's economy, who's one of the biggest company in China? Huawei. And this week Huawei filled for a lawsuit against the US government, that their restrictions are non "constitutional".
Any how, sorry i hijacked your thread to clarify some things about this "China is spying on us" BS. All government are spying on everyone.
Now let's see this p30p, there are gonna be haters and lovers... like every brand.
Peace out.
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I know that many do espionage. Where do you think your fingerprints have been storaged since the iPhone 5s and up? Not at Foxconn or China... But I rather give my fingerprints to US and South Korea than China - if I need to choose.
Well, I have tasted two Huawei-models, also P9. P20 just a bit, not bad phone but the camera wasn't captured natural photos. Seemed like they were afteredited with layers automatically which they are (if you read some reviews). If I want to edit photos I refuse that the phone edit it FOR me. And some photos don't need to be edited at all because you will ruin them.
My P10 was an OK phone, but comparing with this Samsung it's like having a phone out of completely different galaxy. And one more thing to clarify: I don't hate Huawei, but I don't like shady business no matter what company.
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https://youtu.be/S4UHq_4jAGM
Try this....
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Thank you for the link again.
As the question arises, when the first movies are made with the Pro XX - as once with the Canon 5D Mark II (or III?). Anyway, this quality goes beyond my mind and what I learned in physics lessons decades ago - but really good video! Thx!
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Huawei has a history of lying about video footages or photos they made their brand ambassadors advertise, we as users have absolutely no reason to trust anything, they kept using DSLR content and splashing "taken with Huawei" on it, unacceptable.
The video in the link is just an example of reverse advertising, I expect the upcoming Huawei P30 pro's camera to be criticized in every single comparison that isn't sponsored, as it happened every time.
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Ok, understood. These are the reasons, why I´m (still) skeptical with the brand Huawei.
And yes, I checked your guide, just haven´t hit the thanks bottom yet .
Essentially, I agree with you. However, I think that a lot has happened since the P10. Anyway, I agree that from a price point of view, Huawei's move is more than brave, even though I think you already get what you pay for. After all, with the P30 pro seems to come a sonos speaker for free (pre-order) .. if you need it. Yes, I know, this argument is rather weak ..
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https://youtu.be/S4UHq_4jAGM
Try this....
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Thank you for the link again.
As the question arises, when the first movies are made with the Pro XX - as once with the Canon 5D Mark II (or III?). Anyway, this quality goes beyond my mind and what I learned in physics lessons decades ago - but really good video! Thx!
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I just want premium, and now that also Huawei-phones costs almost as same amount as Samsung's, I would be silly if I picked Huawei imo. Surely have Huawei evolved since the P10 but I simply can't live with the EMUI anymore. And bringing Nova-launcher won't make me 100% satisfied either...
I really love new SGS10+ even with Exynos-chip that entire world have due to licensing issue (read 1993 contract between Sammy and Qualcy). Can say it works well, not bad att all. Fast too. [emoji6]
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My previous phone is mate 20 battery life is perfect like 8 hours sot and not warm now I have s10 plus us version screen time only 6 hours and phone feel very warm
Huawei Emui is awful. They make the bootloader unlockable. Screen not as good with issues
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the , all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
it's what mi9 should have been, in everything except the CPU. It's too bad they used 710 instead of 712 due to the mi9 se. However, the cc9 is still probably the most "well rounded" package from the entire xiaomi line. High quality, great design, great cameras front and back, large battery, light weight, OLED, etc. Just love it. It's something I wanted out of a Mi9 but was let down with that battery. wish there's going to be more community support though, which looks a bit thin right now.
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it's what mi9 should have been, in everything except the CPU. It's too bad they used 710 instead of 712 due to the mi9 se. However, the cc9 is still probably the most "well rounded" package from the entire xiaomi line. High quality, great design, great cameras front and back, large battery, light weight, OLED, etc. Just love it. It's something I wanted out of a Mi9 but was let down with that battery. wish there's going to be more community support though, which looks a bit thin right now.
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Absolutely, completely ditto. The only thing holding this phone back is the lacking developer community behind it. Even so, the only thing that's keeping me from using the excellent Android 10 GSI linked in the guides is the lackluster camera performances. Honestly, that wouldn't have been a problem if I still had my Whyred since that phone's camera was "meh" at best, but not enjoying this camera to the fullest feels like a sin!
I'm liking mine a lot, screen is nice, as is the fingerprint scanner. Photos are fine, now that I've removed the watermark. Seriously, who WANTS to brand their photos with a manufacturer's watermark?
I can even cope with the notch, which did concern me. The IR blaster is a nice thing, but would be a lot better if it had an Xbox media remote profile added.
I've ones minor irritation. And it's really bothering me. There's a chime that sounds every now and then that I can't switch off. It's a descending sequence of beeps, like when a usb stick is unplugged.
No visual notification, but it can happen in quick succession, and even happens when watching something on Netflix over bluetooth headphones.
It usually comes when the screen is switched on.
Any ideas? Is there a system log file for audio?
Sorted it! It was the NFC talking to my debit cards. NFC off, and annoying MIUI chime noise gone.
Now to figure out Google pay.
That's odd. No equaliser when using Bluetooth ear buds.
Any workarounds? I could do with a bit more bass on the t-elf buds.
Or, do I need to get into ROMs? Haven't flashed a phone in years!
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I can even cope with the notch, which did concern me.
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What is ”the notch”? Do you have protective glass? I'm worried that fingerprint scanner won't work well over protective glass... How's MIUI 11? Does Revolut work on this phone?
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Absolutely, completely ditto. The only thing holding this phone back is the lacking developer community behind it.
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I was considering Redmi Note 8 Pro but gave up that because MTK processor, no drivers which means very small developing community. That's why I choose Mi 9 Lite and now you say that there will not much developing for this phone...
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What is ”the notch”? Do you have protective glass? I'm worried that fingerprint scanner won't work well over protective glass... How's MIUI 11? Does Revolut work on this phone?
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I was considering Redmi Note 8 Pro but gave up that because MTK processor, no drivers which means very small developing community. That's why I choose Mi 9 Lite and now you say that there will not much developing for this phone...
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I'm not saying that there won't be a development community to back this phone. I'm saying that right now this phone doesn't have the support that other Xiaomi devices, like the RN5 or RN7, have.
I'm sure that, as time goes on, the community will get up to speed. In the mean time, @gringo80 has been mantaining a functional and frequently updated build of LineageOS, and even if that isn't your ROM of choice most GSIs works very well.
The notch is the "cut out" for the front facing camera.
I've a glass screen protector on the front, and the fingerprint scanner still works, but I think that is not as good as it was without the protector. I'm not taking it off, mind, as my phones have a hard life.
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The notch is the "cut out" for the front facing camera.
I've a glass screen protector on the front, and the fingerprint scanner still works, but I think that is not as good as it was without the protector. I'm not taking it off, mind, as my phones have a hard life.
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Seems that screen protector is slowing response of scanner a little. However when I had added fingerprints again with protector in place seems fine again. Maybe split-second difference
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I FREAKING LOVE THIS PHONE! period! There is nothing out there for around 200 bucks which can compete!
Battery drain, some bug on MIUI 11
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Battery drain, some bug on MIUI 11
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Im on MIUI 11 currently and i have no problem getting 3 days uptime and 10h SOT, dont think it's too bad for 4000mAh battery.
The phone arrives today.
I was googleing, trying to find way to root phone without unlocking bootloader. can anyone pplease help, post a link to a thread or anything. I will unlock bootloader but getting approved is a process and i want to root in right out of the box.
If rooted and with unlocked bootloader, can anyone confirm that Revolut works or doesn't work?
Wish you all the best in a New Year.
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Im on MIUI 11 currently and i have no problem getting 3 days uptime and 10h SOT, dont think it's too bad for 4000mAh battery.
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Good for you. I'm really disappointed about the battery life.
Hi all,
Coming from Samsung S and Note lines, I decided to move because the flagships are now so expensive.
So I looked for a similar device. My main points were :
- Affordable
- Gorilla glass 5 at least
- Amoled
- Metal frame
- Non mediatek chipset
- Good battery life
- Recent
I had not a large choice according to the availability in the country (Madagascar). Official resellers prices are too high so I had to manage with some unofficial business which have not so much stocks.
A lot of Xiaomi available but not enough for me : mediatek chipset, gorilla 3 one side, plastic frame and back... Until I saw a Mi 9 Lite ad, and after having check the specs, that was what I looked for, matching my needs.
So here I am... Bought the 02/06/2020
Good packaging, but it misses headset.
I loooove it so much
Welcome to Xiaomi family!
I bought a Mi 9 Lite earlier this month when my veteran Oneplus X finally vibrated itself off the kitchen counter and its mortal coil after enduring ~4 years of abuse. As someone who doesn't care about all the bells and whistles and just wants a solid phone that won't break the bank, here is my mini review:
1) Design and build quality: Top notch. If I was handed this phone without any prior knowledge and told it costs 700€, I wouldn't question it for a second. Every single other phone I've found in this price range has an ugly chin bezel and plastic frame/back. The phone industry had pretty much abandoned plastic in favor of more premium materials on all but the cheapest phones, but for some reason plastic became acceptable again early last year. Glad to see Xiaomi sticking to aluminium and glass on its midrangers.
2) The screen is just stunning. It's sharp, color accurate and immersive with relatively tiny bezels. I'd pretty much sworn off LCDs after my first AMOLED phone, and I'm glad I didn't compromise this time either. The advantages are too great compared to the shortcomings of the technology.
3) The hardware: 6GB RAM is pretty hard to find on most midrange phones, let alone those that cost less than 250€. I'm not into mobile gaming so I've never really pushed the CPU and GPU to its limits, but for day to day use the Snapdragon 710 is absolutely powerful enough. Everything from web browsing to scrolling through social media or watching videos feels snappy and stutter-free. The battery is massive and I can easily go 2 days without recharging, and when I do need to recharge the battery fills up pretty fast.
4) The camera. I'm not really a shutterbug, so the camera specs aren't a top priority for me when shopping for a smartphone, but the photos seem sharp enough and color representation is fine. Video stabilization leaves a bit to be desired, however.
5) Last but certainly not least, the software. I can't really say I'm a fan of MIUI. Maybe I'm too accustomed to lighter ROMs like Oxygen OS and Lineage OS, but the MIUI interface just feels like it's trying too hard to be IOS. Thankfully the launcher recieved an update recently that brings back the familiar app drawer. Some of the bloatware can be uninstalled, while most of it can't. Also, the ads. Pretty much every preinstalled app serves you ads (fullscreen and banner). I get that ads are fundamental to Xiaomi's business model, and I appreciate that they can be (somewhat) completely removed, but I cringe when I think of all the less tech savvy people using their Xiaomi phones and getting bombarded with ads every time they want to listen to music or watch a video.
All in all, this is a from me. The Mi 9 Lite isn't perfect, but it's better than any other phone at this price point. The only thing holding it slightly back for me is the software, but that's subjective so not something I'm going to knock a star off over. Besides, there's always custom ROMs ?.
Hey guys,
I am seriously tempted by the one plus 8 pro but all the screen issues scare me. Would you guys but it again given your time over our would you avoid it? I am also looking at the oppo find X2 pro but I don't know much about oppo and how good they are at updating their phones
Me, along with 3 friends, got the BA version at release. None of us have the screen issue though. Even if I would have had it, and RMA:d the phone, I would do it again. the phone is too amazing to miss out on! I am rooted however, and none of my friends root their devices. I run Omega kernel and have 0 issues, but all of my 3 friends get the "overheated" message several times a day (I haven't gotten it even once). I would draw the conclusion - If you root and are willing to use custom kernels, go for it! If you want to keep stock, you might aswell want to check for alternatives.
Thanks for that. I have rooted with past phones but Google pay is important to me so haven't been able to root anymore. Saw a few posts in standard 8 forum complaining about NFC payments not working properly. Anyone else seen that?
Difficult question It is a great device with nearly all features I like in a top smartphone, especially the addition of wireless charging suits me fine.
My major gripe is actually with the size of the device, while its thin it feels very large (both in width and height) and I'm not sure I like it for an everyday-carry device.
Plus I sorely feel a lack of communication from OP with regard to some of the initial issues and their status when it comes to OOS - screen, fingerprint....
Presently I am very torn between the OP8Pro and a Mi 10 Pro - both great in their own way, its quite possible the form factor and size will lean towards the Xiaomi in the end.....
To answer directly: no, I most probably wouldn't buy such a large device again..... Would I buy the 8 Pro again, aside from its size but rather its features: yes, anytime !
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Thanks for that. I have rooted with past phones but Google pay is important to me so haven't been able to root anymore. Saw a few posts in standard 8 forum complaining about NFC payments not working properly. Anyone else seen that?
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I use GPay several times a day. All you need to do is enable Magisk Hide and it's all good. If someone has other issues with it, it's probably not root/Magisk-related but something else they tinkered with... My assumption.
On my 6T some public betas weren't CTS verified, thos times I had to use the MagiskHide Props Config module to get it working, but no such issues on 8Pro. But I assume, if they start releaseing betas, this would be the solution once again.
I'd buy again.
Coming from 4 google devices in a row. 6P, 2xl, 3xl and 4xl.
I enjoyed them all and there is definitely something about getting all that google offers first but the 8 pro is far and away a better phone and phone experience.
And, so far, updates have come right on the heels of when google updates their line of phones so that's a great thing so far.
And, as someone said above, you can still have google pay while being rooted.
Also, I've had zero screen issues but there is something going on with wifi that I can't quite put my finger on.
Big yes. the phone is the best of the best and the screen day after day all the green tint and black crush gone.
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Big yes. the phone is the best of the best and the screen day after day all the green tint and black crush are gone.
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In a heratbeat! IMO, this is one of the best Android devices to come down the pike in a long time.
Thanks for the replies guys. I have gone ahead and ordered one from Amazon, arrives tomorrow. Chose Amazon as they don't question any returns
Short answer - no.
Longer answer - I've had one for a few days and I've already decided to either return it or sell it on Swappa. My main gripe is the camera. I had seen so many reviews saying Oneplus had finally nailed the camera so I decided to give it a try. Maybe I'm just unlucky, but my camera experience has been hot garbage. Every time I try taking a picture, no matter what the lighting conditions are or the camera mode I'm in, the pictures come out looking awful. I'll tap the shutter button, get the haptic feedback, and then the camera will just hang for a full second before it finally takes the picture. If I'm taking a picture of a still object, in bright lighting, and I make an extra effort to hold my hands as still as possible while all that goes on, then the end result will be about 60% as good as what I can get by just quickly pointing and shooting with my Pixel 4 XL. If the situation is anything less than that absolute ideal, the end result is a blurry smeary overexposed mess.
Before anyone asks, I am updated to the most recent software, I've tried rebooting the phone, doing a factory reset, shooting in all the different camera modes, and adjusting every camera setting there is - none of it has made the quality anything better than mediocre at best to lousy in general.
Yes, this is my daily driver and no looking back! Cheers
I'd do it again. I still go back and forth with my Note 10+ and S20 Ultra, but this is definitely a more bloat free and smoother experience overall. I don't have the green tint issue or the horrible grey's when the screen is super dim but I do have that trailing shadow line that runs next to the camera. But I hardly notice that so no big deal.
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..... Maybe I'm just unlucky, but my camera experience has been hot garbage.....
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Your description sounds as if something is defective with the camera, at least it doesn't fit at all to my experience with the 8 Pro camera ! I did a lot of comparisons between the 8 Pro, an P40 Pro and a Mi 10 Pro - with the main camera all of the three are very comparable, with slight advantages to one or the other in some scenarios....
Now images are always subjective in interpretation, but IMHO the 8 Pro is definitely capable of taking very nice shots in all situations and that without much fiddling ....
I'm not sure I would buy it again, mainly because of the price.
The OP8 Pro is a fantastic device but 900 euros is a lot of money.
OnePlus is gonna release in July a device which is way more affordable, I think it's gonna be a better buy (even if it lacks features)
Yeah I would buy again. I have no blind loyalty to any brand but when I apply my "filters" to the huge list of current phones on the market, only this one remained. When I shop for a phone, I look for the right balance of top specs & mod friendliness, features, parts and price. This time around, the balance wasn't quite as good (price/wireless charging/IP68 rating) and a few other, cheaper phones came close to being the top choice for me.
skoobee said:
Hey guys,
I am seriously tempted by the one plus 8 pro but all the screen issues scare me. Would you guys but it again given your time over our would you avoid it? I am also looking at the oppo find X2 pro but I don't know much about oppo and how good they are at updating their phones
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Most people don't have this issue, problems tend to make more noise than benefits.
The benefits I can assure you completely outweigh the bad on a huge scale..
I have zero issues, I've also never had any issues ever reported, on any of my devices since the G1.
The chances of having these reported problems whilst possible remains extremely small..
Seeing one person getting a couple of dodgy devices in a row does not mean everyone else's devices are the same.
My advice, by it from somewhere where they have a quick swap out capability. A shop, a reputable reseller.
So the timeout if your get that unlucky will be minimal.
You'll have this same problem with any of the other devices you ever decide to buy
No, because it is not a big upgrade or difference from my op7p...
Got my one plus 8 pro today. Screen is lovely. Not seen any issues with it but I haven't gone looking as I am using it like a phone and not at minimum brightness etc. But disappointed to see WiFi calling doesn't work on Vodafone UK, just as well I get great signal anyway
I probably would buy again but the no dual-sim is annoying me more as time passes.
How do you mean, no dual SIM?
I have the 2023 version running 10.5.11.IN11AA and I have the photochrome tab but when I switch to it I just get the regular camera view (no effect at all), screenshot included.
From what I gathered, the IN2023 model should still have the photochrome filter, and in any case the fact that it's there but does nothing seems weird to me.
ideas?
EDIT: nvm, it's just so weak now that I haven't noticed that it does anything. Shame.
Oneplus just released a patch with the latest update disabling the camera responsible for the filter because it had the potential to see through certain fabrics and plastics.
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I have the 2023 version running 10.5.11.IN11AA and I have the photochrome tab but when I switch to it I just get the regular camera view (no effect at all), screenshot included.
From what I gathered, the IN2023 model should still have the photochrome filter, and in any case the fact that it's there but does nothing seems weird to me.
ideas?
EDIT: nvm, it's just so weak now that I haven't noticed that it does anything. Shame.
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those days are gone , you better sell your phone like im doing and buy huawei or samsung ultra or wait for note 20
Stop talk about what you don't know, oneplus has not disabled the sensor. Now it use the 48mp camera together with the 5mp camera to capture the colors and create the filter
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those days are gone , you better sell your phone like im doing and buy huawei or samsung ultra or wait for note 20
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DavideRodeo said:
Stop talk about what you don't know, oneplus has not disabled the sensor. Now it use the 48mp camera together with the 5mp camera to capture the colors and create the filter
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The 48MP + filter combination is useless, I couldn't care less about the colors, I wanted to just check how the "xray" camera looks like. That said, I'm not going to sell the phone just because they disabled a camera. I still think it is the best Android phone right now, and if you bought it just for a 5MP filter camera you should reconsider your consumer choices.
The photo filter works. Needs more light. So basically works only outside. Details it takes now is lot better than 5mp camera before it, buy requires lot light since sensivity is on high range. And sell the phone just coz some filter is not working and downgrade to other android phone by paying more, that's just st....
alleshi said:
those days are gone , you better sell your phone like im doing and buy huawei or samsung ultra or wait for note 20
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That's pitiful advice.
Sell the most developed for and fastest android device in the world to buy the slowest and most locked down device in the world..
Cool story bro
dladz said:
That's pitiful advice.
Sell the most developed for and fastest android device in the world to buy the slowest and most locked down device in the world..
Cool story bro
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i was just joking mate
but i'll take your advise and keep it
the phone is great i must admit it
fast good battery great performance etc etc
dladz said:
That's pitiful advice.
Sell the most developed for and fastest android device in the world to buy the slowest and most locked down device in the world..
Cool story bro
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Hahah, most developed phone... not in 10 lifes, fastest android device YES, but it's far away form developed phone... lets start with low light screen calibration...
OnePlus 8 Pro is the worst flagship device that I ever had...
alleshi said:
i was just joking mate
but i'll take your advise and keep it
the phone is great i must admit it
fast good battery great performance etc etc
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Lol soz
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Vecera said:
Hahah, most developed phone... not in 10 lifes, fastest android device YES, but it's far away form developed phone... lets start with low light screen calibration...
OnePlus 8 Pro is the worst flagship device that I ever had...
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Then sell it and stop moaning!! Do us all a favour. If you didn't research it then that's your fault.
Also if it's not the most developed phone at this time? Amongst flagships, please elaborate with all your wisdom what is??
Just got the dreaded update to 10.
Simply disregarded it then took to Twitter to tear OnePlus a new bum hole.
Poor judgement and poor decisions by OnePlus.
I'll not be taking it until they sort their heads up out
I am disappointed.
Does anyone know how to get it back on the latest firmware?