The Motorola's turbo charge claims that it can charge a fair amount within 15 minutes from 0%. Faster than the S6 apparently, is this true? If so to what % from 0% within 15 minutes?
That was the Style they demonstrated not the Play, I dont think the play will charge faster than the S6 only because of the bigger battery.
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Moto X Play does have turbo charging. That's what it says when i plug it in. Expect 1% a minute.
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Moto X Play does have turbo charging. That's what it says when i plug it in. Expect 1% a minute.
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I'm not saying it doesn't. I'm just saying dont expect it to charge faster than the S6 because of the battery being bigger on the Play.
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I'm not saying it doesn't. I'm just saying dont expect it to charge faster than the S6 because of the battery being bigger on the Play.
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Probably will last longer than the S6 though.
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Probably will last longer than the S6 though.
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Ideally. Though I'm finding this phone has a lot of wakelocks going on and there isn't a whole lot we can do about it until we get root.
Once we can root and install Xposed, I think we'll have some pretty amazing battery life on this thing with the right tweaks. I can't wait.
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Ideally. Though I'm finding this phone has a lot of wakelocks going on and there isn't a whole lot we can do about it until we get root.
Once we can root and install Xposed, I think we'll have some pretty amazing battery life on this thing with the right tweaks. I can't wait.
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Can you name the ones you've seen so far?
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Can you name the ones you've seen so far?
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I don't use any battery apps because I'm not rooted. I just go by the built-in battery graph. On other phones (where I've rooted and controlled wakelocks), the graph is very horizontal when the phone is in standby. On the Moto X Play, my standby tends to have a steady decline on the graph of roughly 15 degrees.
I don't have any example screenshots of the Moto X Play yet (just unplugged it from the charger), but here's an example of the standby I was getting on my Galaxy S6:
Trying using a normal charger and see how slow it charges.
I don't how Moto says 48hr battery.
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Google services doesn't usually even show up on mine. How much are you using Audible?
Here's my current stats. Haven't seen much of a difference when charging with the Turbo Charger or a normal one.
One app that does use a lot of battery though is Spotify
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Google services doesn't usually even show up on mine. How much are you using Audible?
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All day, at least 8hrs while at work.
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Here's my current stats. Haven't seen much of a difference when charging with the Turbo Charger or a normal one.
One app that does use a lot of battery though is Spotify
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Yours is saying 2 days left. I never get that.
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My motorola XT1563 battery averages 12h 36m 0s (10h 35m 0s active usage) on a single charge. Check out GSam Battery Monitor: - http://bit.ly/uHT7Vy #badassbattery
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I'm waiting for mine to arrive on Monday but just noticed my current phone. Google services kept my phone awake for 2 hours today...
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Charging, Battery, Turbo
Devhux said:
Here's my current stats. Haven't seen much of a difference when charging with the Turbo Charger or a normal one.
One app that does use a lot of battery though is Spotify
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All day, at least 8hrs while at work.
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Yours is saying 2 days left. I never get that.
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My motorola XT1563 battery averages 12h 36m 0s (10h 35m 0s active usage) on a single charge. Check out GSam Battery Monitor: - http://bit.ly/uHT7Vy #badassbattery
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Hi Guys,
I just bought a new Droid Turbo and My Friend bought a new Moto X Play. I am coming from using various Motorola RAZRs and in general about 2 years of rooting flashing etc. I think this thread went stale, and you guys probably have gained much more knowledge but still thought might share few of my learnings. Please ignore if the things i mention have been covered in other threads coz am new to this device so haven't read any other threads. Hope these things help.
Turbo Charging-
Turbo charging is indeed quite fast. My Droid Turbo 3900Mah battery charges 0 to 100% in 120 minutes. This is quite fast considering my RAZR 1750Mah batter charged o to 100% in that time on a normal charger. I haven't had the guts to try but i am assuming the charging on non turbo chargers will be slower. Having said that let me go into more details. Standard charging is 5V 1A so 5x1=5W. So that is like really slow. USB 2.0/3.0 charging is 5V 0.5A(I think it will take days to charge our phones with laptops) But there are some chargers which have higher ratings. I have used travel chargers from samsung, sony and motorola which all have ratings 5V 1.5A or 5V 2.0A. So they are 50% or double speed chargers. These used to be harmful to the battery back when batteries were small like on my RAZR. An Ipad charger adapter is 12W, 5V 2.1A. Have been using this for RAZR since 2 years now. I think it broke my battery but it was a good 2 years . The New Motorola Charger is also 12W. But its not just the high current or rating. It also has technology to accelerate charging in the phone itself. So I assume a non turbo 12W charger would not be too slow, but still slower than turbo. I am guessing it should take about 2 hours for 0 to 100% Do keep in mind though, like iphone and samsung, the turbo charging stops after 70-80% I don't remember exactly when but its never turbo directly up to 100. only a jump start push as batteries are exponential in charging and discharging.
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I know the phone says 1 day left and 2 days left but you never know when you suddenly have to do stuff and all battery is drained out. I am coming from a 4.3 inch screen so i am assuming these large devices will eat more battery as well. I was always using custom roms and blocked wakelocks, used greenify etc so stock system is like new to me (and pretty frustrating too ) When you are actually using the phone, of course the battery will drain faster. The screen uses a lot. Data usage should use less battery with wifi on. But i mostly dont use wifi and am continuously on 3G. So even in 3G, battery drains faster only if background apps are using lot of data. But usually the standby is much better if there is not much use. I used to go 10 hours on 3G on my 1750 Mah RAZR (Ofcourse with all the root stuff) But until there is no root, 2-3% per hour drain is to be expected when phone screen is off and like its on standby, you arent using it actively. For example you are working and the phone is away, or you slept off at night. The drain should be under 3 or 4. If its higher, there is some app that is draining the battery. And without root we obviously cannot trace down which app is keeping the device up, but if you click on the battery graph and go to details screen - you will see stats below like how long the device was awake, when was screen off etc. Something is keeping your device up if the the device wakes up a lot even when the screen is off and you werent using it. Greenify without root also is quite good at stopping non system apps from hogging battery/data. But of course to go more than that, you need root.
Rooting
I am not sure about moto x play, but i read up on some droid turbo threads and they sound promising. I am coming from a always bootlocked RAZR and it seems like a relief that these devices have an unlocked bootloader. I am still confused about rooting and using custom as the phone is new and i really like the feel of it. But i am sure i will eventually root and put something custom on it. Of course rooting might void your warranty so take care!! Always read up on stuff, and read up a lot. Never trust just one thread with instructions and always (and i mean always) first learn how to fix broken/bricked/wronglyflashed phones before you start rooting and flashing stuff. And for phones like ours without removable battery, never do rooting flashing etc if the battery is below 50. Trust me, i have gone down that road too many times with my RAZRs where i always ended up tearing up the phone and exchanging batteries to revive the phone again.
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I am sure this thread/device/forum has amazing devs. I already found some amazing devs for turbo too, so i expect the same love i got for RAZR from XDA community. But in case you guys ever have any questions you can always shoot me a message. I am not an expert or anything even remotely close to that, but i will try my level best to research stuff for you so that you benefit from it. I am sure you can also gain the same knowledge i had by reading up all pages of all threads for the device, but in case you cannot find anything or do not understand just shoot me a PM. I am a loyal Motorola user and damn proud of it and always ready to help fellow moto followers Enjoy!
My phone is not Turbo Charging anymore. Same powerbar same Turbocharger as before, same USB power cable from charger to the phone. I did a hard reset on the phone, and the phone has the October Patch applied. Any ideas? Before it was saying Turbo Charger connected, now it just says charging. Anything I can try? And is really fricking slow when charging.
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My phone is not Turbo Charging anymore. Same powerbar same Turbocharger as before, same USB power cable from charger to the phone. I did a hard reset on the phone, and the phone has the October Patch applied. Any ideas? Before it was saying Turbo Charger connected, now it just says charging. Anything I can try? And is really fricking slow when charging.
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Use Ampere app to check the amp that your phone is getting. Try using different USB cable.
I have seen max 1090 miliAmps and min 870. Seems to be back to normal-ish just not saying Turbocharger connected.
marstg said:
My phone is not Turbo Charging anymore. Same powerbar same Turbocharger as before, same USB power cable from charger to the phone. I did a hard reset on the phone, and the phone has the October Patch applied. Any ideas? Before it was saying Turbo Charger connected, now it just says charging. Anything I can try? And is really fricking slow when charging.
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If you are using custom rom it wont show *turbo charging*. Still it will turbo charge
On stock rom, not even bootloader unlocked.
I changed the place of the charger on the power bar with the Ampere app open and in the old socket was showing max 500 mAmps while in the new socket the charging current jumped to 2300 miliAmps! Wtf? Now it says rate of charging : Turbo! The socket on the same power bar gets tired of supplying current? Wtf?
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What is the best point to charge at for battery longetivity?? I don't know anything about batteries.. would be good top know
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Interesting question. I charge it when it say "connect you charger"
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i agree. i charge it when it tells me it needs to be charged
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What is the best point to charge at for battery longetivity?? I don't know anything about batteries.. would be good top know
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The battery in a nexus 7 flo is a Lithium ion battery (as one would expect). This particular kind of battery lasts longer if you top it off all the time (Meaning you should charge it whenever you can). A table and explanation can be read here: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
What the first reply said. I charge when it's time to do so.
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I did some reading on battery university some time ago and concluded the best way to save battery health is to keep it as much as possible between 40 and 80%, as well as try to not leave it full or completely discharge.
I've been using this method on my phone for more than a year and the battery hasn't noticeably lost capacity.
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I charge it whenever possible, Battery nowadays trickle charge so always plugged in does not damage battery longevity. Install Gsam battery monitor and you will see even during charging the battery doesn't get much hotter than 30C and Lithium batteries is fine at temps below 45C.
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I did some reading on battery university some time ago and concluded the best way to save battery health is to keep it as much as possible between 40 and 80%, as well as try to not leave it full or completely discharge.
I've been using this method on my phone for more than a year and the battery hasn't noticeably lost capacity.
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Yes I've heard this before.
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Its on a charger when I am not using it. Unless I am on the road.
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Its on a charger when I am not using it. Unless I am on the road.
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+1 for me. When I pick it up to use it, I like it a 100% charge. I don't always know when I first disconnect it, if I am going to use it for 5 minutes or 5 hours. If I waited until it called for a charge and picked it up with, say, 25% power, I would be screwed if I wanted to use it for a long period of time. I wish they came with swappable batteries like a phone, so I could get a couple of spares, keep them optimally charged and then switch when the one in the N7 got low. Alas.
I charge mine while I sleep. Haven't ran it dead yet.
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+1 for me. When I pick it up to use it, I like it a 100% charge. I don't always know when I first disconnect it, if I am going to use it for 5 minutes or 5 hours. If I waited until it called for a charge and picked it up with, say, 25% power, I would be screwed if I wanted to use it for a long period of time. I wish they came with swappable batteries like a phone, so I could get a couple of spares, keep them optimally charged and then switch when the one in the N7 got low. Alas.
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Best solution is a portable power pack, it just adds some extra bulk. Someone will eventually release a battery pack case to take advantage of the wireless charging.
Is it still the case that the earlier you recharge, the longer your battery will survive? I haven't run my Nexus 7 into the red so far, which is pretty easy to avoid when it lasts for longer on one charge than I could ever imagine using it non-stop.
There was an article on Gizmodo that recommends not to let it go below about 40%. I would post a link, but XDA's not letting me.
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I did some reading on battery university some time ago and concluded the best way to save battery health is to keep it as much as possible between 40 and 80%, as well as try to not leave it full or completely discharge.
I've been using this method on my phone for more than a year and the battery hasn't noticeably lost capacity.
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This. You guys that are allowing it to reach the point where it tells you to change are causing premature wear on your batteries, especially if you allow it to reach the point of turning itself off. Nothing is going to immediately fail, you're just going to start wearing out your battery faster. We'll all eventually reach that point of reduced capacity or inability to accept a charge.
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There was an article on Gizmodo that recommends not to let it go below about 40%. I would post a link, but XDA's not letting me.
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I'd be leary of gawker information. They really aren't the best place to get accurate advice.
I just fully charge it and then let it to go till 3-12 before charging it again.
Not trying to charge alot and trying to keep the cycle from 0-100 again and again
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The battery in a nexus 7 flo is a Lithium ion battery (as one would expect). This particular kind of battery lasts longer if you top it off all the time (Meaning you should charge it whenever you can). A table and explanation can be read here: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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I try charge my devices before they hit 50%. Doing so will about double the longevity of you batteries. Of course their are times when this is not possible, but with a car charger and several QI wireless chargers it not a problem most of the time.
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I just fully charge it and then let it to go till 3-12 before charging it again.
Not trying to charge alot and trying to keep the cycle from 0-100 again and again
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That is the worst way to do it with modern Li-ion batteries.
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This. You guys that are allowing it to reach the point where it tells you to change are causing premature wear on your batteries, especially if you allow it to reach the point of turning itself off. Nothing is going to immediately fail, you're just going to start [Ware] out your battery faster. We'll all eventually reach that point of reduced capacity or inability to accept a charge.
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Exactly!
asp2010 said:
I did some reading on battery university some time ago and concluded the best way to save battery health is to keep it as much as possible between 40 and 80%, as well as try to not leave it full or completely discharge.
I've been using this method on my phone for more than a year and the battery hasn't noticeably lost capacity.
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Do you only let it charge to 80%, or do you let it charge to 100%?
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Do you only let it charge to 80%, or do you let it charge to 100%?
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Only up until 80%. If you have to charge close to 100%, at least try not to leave it in that state for long, since that's what damages the battery. Also, try not to discharge below 10%.
Of course, these are all just guidelines. You battery will degrade anyway, it's just a matter of time. There will be minimal impact if you do a full charge-discharge cycle from time to time, but the less often you do it, the better for your battery :good:
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Kookas said:
Best solution is a portable power pack, it just adds some extra bulk. Someone will eventually release a battery pack case to take advantage of the wireless charging.
Is it still the case that the earlier you recharge, the longer your battery will survive? I haven't run my Nexus 7 into the red so far, which is pretty easy to avoid when it lasts for longer on one charge than I could ever imagine using it non-stop.
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That's a possibility. Do you have any recommendations?
Hello!
As the thread title states, I heard that charging the phone when it's powered off to a full charge is more beneficial to the phones battery, before I turn it on for the first time.
Is there any truth to this rumour? Or am I just fine to turn on the phone and charge it from whatever percentage the battery is at out of the box?
Thanks!
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As I understand it, all the batteries are charged before being shipped anyway. That is as good as / counts as the first charge. You should be able to use it at will.
Generally I start playing. After the first 3 or 4 full charge cycles it gets to the optimum in my experience, but that may be the phone calibrating itself.
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One thing that I do believe makes a difference to battery life is a slow charge. I keep my Note 3 on charge at night using my Note 1 charger, and it is taking about 6 hours to fully charge. I am not certain this is 'better' than a fast charge, but it seems logical that the battery could last longer (more cycles). Does anyone know (not guessing, like me)?
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As I understand it, all the batteries are charged before being shipped anyway. That is as good as / counts as the first charge. You should be able to use it at will.
Generally I start playing. After the first 3 or 4 full charge cycles it gets to the optimum in my experience, but that may be the phone calibrating itself.
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One thing that I do believe makes a difference to battery life is a slow charge. I keep my Note 3 on charge at night using my Note 1 charger, and it is taking about 6 hours to fully charge. I am not certain this is 'better' than a fast charge, but it seems logical that the battery could last longer (more cycles). Does anyone know (not guessing, like me)?
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I thought that they only charged the batteries to ~50% or so, but I don't know for sure.
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I thought that they only charged the batteries to ~50% or so, but I don't know for sure.
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Yes, but that is enough.
This thread will no doubt attract the usual plethora of wild theories. From everything I have read (sometimes from actual engineers), there is little or no truth to any of them. Just use it, charge it before it is empty (typically before it hits 10%, but the higher the better), and use it etc.
The only reason any full charge/discharge cycle may appear to help is that the phone calibrates itself to this battery. That can make it 'last' longer in the stats, but in reality it will not run out any slower.
You only need to cycle the battery if you're having problems with the calibration. (ie. It keeps turning off at 20%)
Cycling the battery to make the charge last longer is a placebo.
Phones are charged to +-30% before shipping. This so the device can be tested before shipment, and by the customer in the shop.
Best is to keep it between 90 and 10%, though in overall run the difference is that your battery lasts about 4 weeks longer before you have to replace it.
The advantage to charging to full: You can play with it longer on your first run.
The disadvantage: You have to wait 90 minutes before you can play with it.
That's it.
The old 'drain and fill' principle does not apply to Lithium-Ion.
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For those who wants some reading:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
Basically what ShadowLea said... High voltages, and low voltages stresses the battery, shortening its lifespan.
ShadowLea said:
You only need to cycle the battery if you're having problems with the calibration. (ie. It keeps turning off at 20%)
Cycling the battery to make the charge last longer is a placebo.
Phones are charged to +-30% before shipping. This so the device can be tested before shipment, and by the customer in the shop.
Best is to keep it between 90 and 10%, though in overall run the difference is that your battery lasts about 4 weeks longer before you have to replace it.
The advantage to charging to full: You can play with it longer on your first run.
The disadvantage: You have to wait 90 minutes before you can play with it.
That's it.
The old 'drain and fill' principle does not apply to Lithium-Ion.
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Perfect! I knew I had read somewhere (I think from XDA dev shen_ye) that you should keep it between 90 and 10!
Does it really only take 90min for a full charge?! I knew it would charge faster but that's really fast
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skadude66 said:
Perfect! I knew I had read somewhere (I think from XDA dev shen_ye) that you should keep it between 90 and 10!
Does it really only take 90min for a full charge?! I knew it would charge faster but that's really fast
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With the original charger it's a little under 2 hours for 0-100%. So from 30%, about 90 minutes.
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With the original charger it's a little under 2 hours for 0-100%. So from 30%, about 90 minutes.
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Woo! Thanks! That'll give me plenty of time to start transferring over my old stuff to my new SD Card
Hello,
First off I want to preface this by saying I have my bootloader unlocked, rooted, running a 6.0.1 ROM.
This past weekend I noticed that my phone wasn't charging on a generic 4 port USB charger that I have. Made sure it had power, tried it on my tablet I had laying around, and eventually got it to charge using a different cable. No problem, stuff like that happens. Noticed it was "charging slowly" Hmm..wonder if the USB charger is going back. Tried it other places, but always getting EXTREMELY slow charges. Unfortunately I had my OEM charger at work at my desk so I couldn't try that but I have a QuickCharge 2.0 car charger that I tried. I plugged it in there and I was actually LOSING charge at what seems like a faster rate than just a normal drain. WTF!?
Got to my destination (going to my buddy's house) and tried a few of his chargers; same thing, "charging slowly". Made it through the weekend, got home and the problem is still going on with all my chargers.
So today, I get to work to try my OEM quickcharge and it drains my battery as well! Oh boy. This is bad.
Anyone else experience this? Since I've unlocked bootloader and no extended warranty AND the fact that Moto Support is god awful anyway, I'm screwed when it comes to professional help. Anyone have luck opening up this beast and fixing anything? Any help or guidance would be very much appreciated.
My phone isn't charging very well either. I went out to do some errands and phone was on 84% saying it'll be charged in 35 minutes I came home three hours later it's still on 84% with 35 minutes to go and burning up to touch. This is already my fourth Moto X in the week.
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My phone isn't charging very well either. I went out to do some errands and phone was on 84% saying it'll be charged in 35 minutes I came home three hours later it's still on 84% with 35 minutes to go and burning up to touch. This is already my fourth Moto X in the week.
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Fourth with issues? Hope it's not related to the same charger.
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Fourth with issues? Hope it's not related to the same charger.
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Not the same charger but all four different chargers the phone comes with. I ordered it on Amazon with next day arrival and the first two phones had dead pixels third one was reading 138 degrees with ampere while charging and would stop and fourth (current) refuses to charge past 84% unless I have the phone off I noticed. I unlocked the bootloader on this current one though so I don't think I'll be able to exchange it now
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Hello,
First off I want to preface this by saying I have my bootloader unlocked, rooted, running a 6.0.1 ROM.
This past weekend I noticed that my phone wasn't charging on a generic 4 port USB charger that I have. Made sure it had power, tried it on my tablet I had laying around, and eventually got it to charge using a different cable. No problem, stuff like that happens. Noticed it was "charging slowly" Hmm..wonder if the USB charger is going back. Tried it other places, but always getting EXTREMELY slow charges. Unfortunately I had my OEM charger at work at my desk so I couldn't try that but I have a QuickCharge 2.0 car charger that I tried. I plugged it in there and I was actually LOSING charge at what seems like a faster rate than just a normal drain. WTF!?
Got to my destination (going to my buddy's house) and tried a few of his chargers; same thing, "charging slowly". Made it through the weekend, got home and the problem is still going on with all my chargers.
So today, I get to work to try my OEM quickcharge and it drains my battery as well! Oh boy. This is bad.
Anyone else experience this? Since I've unlocked bootloader and no extended warranty AND the fact that Moto Support is god awful anyway, I'm screwed when it comes to professional help. Anyone have luck opening up this beast and fixing anything? Any help or guidance would be very much appreciated.
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Question to OP: DId you ever find a resolution? I have recently noticed that my XT1575 (currently restored to stock 6.0 but still unlocked) actually LOSES charge while "charging" (as reported in Battery setting) in my Car (12vDC) and on my motorcycle (12vDC). Granted, I am running GMaps and streaming music running, among other apps... In fact, I just saw the charge drop from 74% to 68% in about 15 mins while driving this morning... On the other hand, when plugged into AC Turbo charger, I can run all those apps and then some, and charging, the battery charge goes up 1-2% per minute... Wondering if anyone else has seen similar issue when charging via DC current?
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Question to OP: DId you ever find a resolution? I have recently noticed that my XT1575 (currently restored to stock 6.0 but still unlocked) actually LOSES charge while "charging" (as reported in Battery setting) in my Car (12vDC) and on my motorcycle (12vDC). Granted, I am running GMaps and streaming music running, among other apps... In fact, I just saw the charge drop from 74% to 68% in about 15 mins while driving this morning... On the other hand, when plugged into AC Turbo charger, I can run all those apps and then some, and charging, the battery charge goes up 1-2% per minute... Wondering if anyone else has seen similar issue when charging via DC current?
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now that I think about it, its DC going into the phone regardless of the source, so the type current is not a factor... so assuming I don't have bad cables, what could be causing the difference?
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Upon further research I just discovered and ordered a Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 capable car adapter... I'll bet the "standard" usb power the phone can draw from a cheap car adapter isn't sufficient to effectively charge on top of streaming, GPS mapping, Bluetooth stereo and screen on... Lets,see what the new 2.0 QC adapter can do next week....
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I've noticed issues with the charging port. I have two brand new 25w turbo chargers and neither of them connect/charge my phone. I got an OEM USB cable and connected it to my old Droid Turbo charger and that is the only charger that works for me. Bummer. Was considering sending back the phone to moto, but I'm unlocked and have a feeling they would not repair/research it...
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You can download an app called "Ampere" it will actually show you the charge and discharge rate that the phone is doing. Might help out in determining what is wrong.
For those experiencing issues with the device not charging to 100% when it is extremely hot, this is normal behavior. This is from Motorola...
Some facts on battery temperature
* Devices need their space; There are no on-board fans, cooling relies solely on the device being able to dissipate heat through the air. To help cooling, ensure the device is not in a pocket, purse, carrying case, or direct sunlight.
* Normal temperature is (97f) ~36c
* A user will begin to sense a “warm” device at 106f (~41c) and it will seem hot at 109f (~43c)
* Cool Down Mode kicks in at 152f (67c)
* Batteries with temps => 113f to 140f (45c to 60c) will not charge to 100% capacity
* Battery temps >140f (60c)will not charge at all
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I just got myself a new V20 yesterday. I tried charging it with my own Quick Charge 3.0 wall charger but I'm not too sure about the charge time.
So I'm going to try again. But before I begin, I need some advice.
How do I check if it's really charging with Quick Charge 3.0? Also, the phone now is currently about 66%, how much more do I have to drain before I commence?
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As much as you want. Thing to remember...QC is variable rate, the more charged you are the less fast it is. Also, official posted charge times from OEMs refer to a phone powered off typically.
Right. Powered off. Good point.
And I supposed using an app like "Ampere" is not going to work because of QC3.0's variable voltage and amps, am I correct?
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Okay. Just did a little test.
Started at 5pm with 25% battery left and using my own QC3 wall charger.
Ended at 5.50pm with 91%.
That's pretty fast! And the best part, the battery stays cool despite Quick Charge.
I'm going to try charging from 0% tonight.
Edit - Oh and my phone was turned off while charging.
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BozQ said:
Okay. Just did a little test.
Started at 5pm with 25% battery left and using my own QC3 wall charger.
Ended at 5.50pm with 91%.
That's pretty fast! And the best part, the battery stays cool despite Quick Charge.
I'm going to try charging from 0% tonight.
Edit - Oh and my phone was turned off while charging.
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Just an FYI, it's not good to drain your battery to zero. It'll shorten it's life. Keeping it between 40-80% is optimal from what I've read.
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Ampere app on Play Store, check it's charge current values specially when screen is off. I think it should be like between 2400 mA to 3200 mA. When screen is on , the charge current values decreases. Also with the app, you can compare the current values of QC 2.0 versus QC 3.0. Cable should't be faulty.
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Just an FYI, it's not good to drain your battery to zero. It'll shorten it's life. Keeping it between 40-80% is optimal from what I've read.
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Thanks for your advice. I am aware of this. But I want to experiment just this one time. So it shouldn't hurt too much.
And the results are good! 30 minutes and it reaches 51%. 60 minutes with 89%. 70 minutes 95%. And 83 minutes to hit 100%.
Very pleased with the results.
Ali Mirza said:
Ampere app on Play Store, check it's charge current values specially when screen is off. I think it should be like between 2400 mA to 3200 mA. When screen is on , the charge current values decreases. Also with the app, you can compare the current values of QC 2.0 versus QC 3.0. Cable should't be faulty.
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Ampere might not be the best way to measure current values because of the way Quick Charge 3.0 charges with variable voltage.
The few times I measured all fall below 1000mAh.
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Will the Samsung charger for the note 7 quick charge the v20?
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jjr3211 said:
Will the Samsung charger for the note 7 quick charge the v20?
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Yes it does. I have been using it.
Great thank you
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Just not as fast because Samsung uses quick charge 2 and LG has version 3.
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So the LG charger is not Version 3?
Drey070 said:
So the LG charger is not Version 3?
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Doh.
Hey fellas, not to take over the subject matter but feel like you all know batteries well. What if a 1am charger is used overnight for charging. Going with the idea that a slower charge charges the battery better and maintains a better charge all day, or is that not the case. Also is any harm done with charging with a slower charger. Thanks
I never use quick charge at work or at home, slow charging will prolong the battery life. I always start to charge at about 8-15% where possible, and disconnect the charger around 90-95%, this is the proper way to prolong litium battery.
The only time I use QC is when i'm traveling.
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Beandip-Javier said:
Hey fellas, not to take over the subject matter but feel like you all know batteries well. What if a 1am charger is used overnight for charging. Going with the idea that a slower charge charges the battery better and maintains a better charge all day, or is that not the case. Also is any harm done with charging with a slower charger. Thanks
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I use my old samsung 2A charger, all my QC are still in the box, about 5 of them.:victory:
Thank you @kms108 , I use 1am charger for my overnight charging at home overnight. I tend to also stay away from fast charge but wasn't sure if I was doing more harm then good. I do have a quick charge at work that I use for about 10 min before I leave the office.
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Thank you @kms108 , I use 1am charger for my overnight charging at home overnight. I tend to also stay away from fast charge but wasn't sure if I was doing more harm then good. I do have a quick charge at work that I use for about 10 min before I leave the office.
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I have a samsung 2A and a SE 1.5A using them at work, they are not QC, but they do charge my phone pretty quick especially my xperia XP.
Beandip-Javier said:
Thank you @kms108 , I use 1am charger for my overnight charging at home overnight. I tend to also stay away from fast charge but wasn't sure if I was doing more harm then good. I do have a quick charge at work that I use for about 10 min before I leave the office.
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It is better to use a slower to prolong the longevity of the battery. You won't get more 'charge' from using a slower charge. I try to use slower chargers when I can. I usually use my Samsung 2A chargers and use my adaptive fast charging when I need quickness. The LG QC 3.0 does pretty well though. Battery doesn't get that hot but I'm quite sure it still isn't good for the longevity. Nonetheless, we have swappable batteries so I can use my AFC and LG QC 3 more often lime I do my note 4. My HTC m8 and moto x pure usually were used with 1A chargers most of the time unless I needed a super fast charge. Also, LG makes quality batteries. Probably why Samsung is switching to them until they figure out what the hell they did. Also, notice apple doesn't use quick charging technology. iPhone's battery tend to hold charges better until a out 18 Mo th period before user starts noticing appreciable decline. The peeps that put iPad chargers on iPhone's will see less longevity from their battery.
So I thought that QC3.0 was supposed to get you closer to 80% in 35 minutes, vs the 50-55 from qc2.0. So I also read that the factory charger that LG sent is a QC2.0 and not 3. So I bought a 3.0 brick and also a new usb c that is certified compliant with QC3.0. Still only got to about 40% in 30 minutes. Not sure what's going on with that. I understand longevity and all of that. However I got this phone because once my battery is shot I can just swap it. So I don't mind getting that faster time and buying a newer battery a bit early.
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As much as you want. Thing to remember...QC is variable rate, the more charged you are the less fast it is. Also, official posted charge times from OEMs refer to a phone powered off typically.
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Any recommendations on the best usb c cable for my LG V20. Some I have purchased do not quick charge as described.
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Razer Phone can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Really quick to charge, it is very nice to be able to charge for about 15 minutes and 30% added charge.
The gargantuan 4000 mAh battery charges quickly thanks to the included QC4+ charger; it doesn't get too warm while charging, with battery temps peaking around 30/36c (screen off/on) with a 23.3c room temp. That's with a case on as well.
No one else talking about charging speeds? I was looking for some in depth reviews of the QC4+ wishing my QC2.0 gs8 had it mainly for controlling heat better. Anyone else notice huge difference between the two?
Very fast. Within an hour it's almost full.
My phone stops quick charging after 25% and we'll go back to normal charging for the rest of time do any of you know what the problem could be. I am rooted and I am using magisk. So if you have any ideas let me know I have used the stock charger and wire and a combination of other Quick Charge Chargers and wires with the same result.
Phone will not deep sleep!
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My phone stops quick charging after 25% and we'll go back to normal charging for the rest of time do any of you know what the problem could be. I am rooted and I am using magisk. So if you have any ideas let me know I have used the stock charger and wire and a combination of other Quick Charge Chargers and wires with the same result.
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Yep same issue here. It takes about 1 hour 20 minutes to reach 100%
Now that is not rapid charging in my opinion.
IT also does not deep sleep at all according to accubattery discharge test whilst screen is off!
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Phone will not deep sleep!
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Yep same issue here. It takes about 1 hour 20 minutes to reach 100%
Now that is not rapid charging in my opinion.
IT also does not deep sleep at all according to accubattery discharge test whilst screen is off!
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I found the culprit it was the Theme store app that comes pre-installed on the handset. Disabling this fixed the no sleep and battery drain issues for me. :0-)
I've had this thread on for quite a while now about the phone not "Quick Charging" after 25%.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/razer-phone/help/phone-quick-charging-t3709607
I've not had the phone to charge nearly full in an hour like some of you guys say, or cannot even say it charges fast at all.
I also got the post up on Razer's forums. It was posted for some time but just recently one guy responded and seems to have an argument. Cannot say I agree with his points because overall I do not believe this phone has a proper working Quick Charge 4+
https://insider.razer.com/index.php?threads/quick-charging-only-working-upto-25-battery-level.31528/
What are you guys opinions on this ?
I haven't watched mine very closely, but it does charge quick compared to my other phones, including the Moto X Pure Edition.
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I've had this thread on for quite a while now about the phone not "Quick Charging" after 25%.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/razer-phone/help/phone-quick-charging-t3709607
I've not had the phone to charge nearly full in an hour like some of you guys say, or cannot even say it charges fast at all.
I also got the post up on Razer's forums. It was posted for some time but just recently one guy responded and seems to have an argument. Cannot say I agree with his points because overall I do not believe this phone has a proper working Quick Charge 4+
https://insider.razer.com/index.php?threads/quick-charging-only-working-upto-25-battery-level.31528/
What are you guys opinions on this ?
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I recently got the Razer phone and it's a stunning phone with no problems regards to performance, but i agree with you. The 'quick charge' Is far from quick. It took around 2 hours to charge fully from 2% and also said it was rapid charging through the whole charge.