I've read EVERY thread on this board in both Universal sections (not including accessories.)
There are lots of "how to UNBRICK your Universal" threads, but all threads with references on how to avoid bricking it in the first place are convoluted.
Can someone take up the task of making "The Definititive Guide to Rom Switching your Universal" that
1. Works for ANY HTC Universal variant
2. Starts w/ the standard "sync up your Universal" warning
3. Lists all software needed (extended rom unlockers, the roms themselves, radio update)
4. Runs all software in order so that the dreaded county code and syncing errors never show up
Can someone take up this task?
Again, this isnt about "best software" for the Universal. We are JUST talking about Rom switching...
i agree this would be really helpful. it's a tricky path to tread and a "one-stop" how to guidev would be great.
i agree this would be really helpful. it's a tricky path to tread and a "one-stop" how to guidev would be great.
Yeah this would be a great Sticky, especially as it looks like we are all about to receive a new ROM thanks to one of XDA-Developers users having just got a new Exec with a newer ROM version than the one available on O2's website.
BTW does'nt O2's website give detailed instructions on reflashing the original ROM that they have available for d/l? I cant get that far on their site as you need to fill out IMEI/Phone Number/Inside leg measurement etc before you can d/l it.
Can someone d/l it and see it it comes with instructions for applying and post info here, maybe its what we are looking for?
Here is the Pdf doc that comes with the software download
@bakerk, can you open the .exe in winrar or similar instead of running it? If you can is there seperate files in the .exe? i.e. an flash application and the actual ROM file? Or is the file not a self extracting archive?
Regards
-edit btw thanks for the posted pdf!
ok here is a list of the files looking in through winrar
\EnterBL.exe 5.496
\GetDeviceData.exe 10,104
\ms_.nbf 10,485,932
\nk.nbf 66,715,820
\radio_.nbf 10,633,900
\ROMUpgradeUt.exe 77,824
\RUU.conf 156
\RUU.dll 200,704
\UI.dll 282,624
As I recall these are the standard files for an upgrade
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So it should be okay to use that update from O2 along with the ROM dump from Moandal http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35810 when it gets posted, to upgrade all our Exec's to Moandal's Exec's latest ROM?
Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
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Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
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for desktop PCs ! if you have by example W7 in French and want to put it in English - I mean to get English package by update- this will not work if you have an OEM license -this is not allowed!
so is that with OEMs if you want to keep license !
for your PDA you must find an unofficial English ROM only! also a way to write it to the phone BUT for this to work DO NOT use Active Sync!
I can't give you more details because don't have a PDA like yours but this problem is interesting
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Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
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try a way to write firmware without Active Sync read this post to see you need some way like that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-378907.html
ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/IA/P735 doesn't works more you have to find somewere a firmware in English as I see no longer Asus support they say this is deprecated sorry to hear that
Hi Ruscan and thank you for your interest in this topic, being the first person to react at all to this problem that has been left unsolved for many years, despite many other people posting about it earlier and who were left with neither solution nor answer/evidence of interest from the side of the developers. I do also think this is an interesting issue that could become even more actual in the future.
So far i was unable to find ANY unoffocial ROM for the P735. I do have the official one (Malaysia) in English though, from Asus's website, yet i do not know how to hack it and eventually install it. Furthermore, i was wondering whether an P750 or P535 ROM could work on a P735 with few modifications, cause the 735 is hardware-wise somewhere between the two.
I am ready to take the time to write the firmware myself yet i have no experience at all in that neither i know from where to start. If to write a new firware then it would be good to finally produce a WM6.1 version for this PDA, instead of the existing 6.0. How to do that, any idea?
Thank you for your explanation and for making this non-sense situation a little bit more clear.
PS: Also, i've read somewhere that the device won't turn-on anymore if upgraded to a different language, does that apply to an update via SD-card as well?
PS2: Installing the Android system on this device would be an option?
..i wonder what would ASUS.UnlockLangID.exe do with your problem..
what's this all about:
p525 had similar problem, that could result in NOT real bricking of device after flash(wrong languague version after reset - device seem to be locked on bootloader then). when tool is used before flash, custom lang roms are working properly(interesting then, what this tool does, btw, as it is launched from WM - so, it may be microflasher, or sth like that).
now...i have strong feeling, that warnings you read about flashing different lang rom, may be related to this ridiculous, small, problem.
issue is, that i do not know, if ASUS.UnlockLangID.exe may help with p735, OR if there's version made for p735.
update: i read this again, slowly:
"Cross-language upgrade is not allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
...they tell you about upgrade TOOL, not rom.
hmmm, so.. what, if you use tool in languague of...ROM?
maybe unlocklangid code is inside flasher, so using proper updater with proper rom is simple solution?
on the other hand - i am making roms for asuses for years, and i never used default flash method - vide usbloader method(and force mode from BL).
i am not going to encourage you to go this way of thinking, but...
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Hi Ruscan and thank you for your interest in this topic, being the first person to react at all to this problem that has been left unsolved for many years, despite many other people posting about it earlier and who were left with neither solution nor answer/evidence of interest from the side of the developers. I do also think this is an interesting issue that could become even more actual in the future.
So far i was unable to find ANY unoffocial ROM for the P735. I do have the official one (Malaysia) in English though, from Asus's website, yet i do not know how to hack it and eventually install it. Furthermore, i was wondering whether an P750 or P535 ROM could work on a P735 with few modifications, cause the 735 is hardware-wise somewhere between the two.
I am ready to take the time to write the firmware myself yet i have no experience at all in that neither i know from where to start. If to write a new firware then it would be good to finally produce a WM6.1 version for this PDA, instead of the existing 6.0. How to do that, any idea?
Thank you for your explanation and for making this non-sense situation a little bit more clear.
PS: Also, i've read somewhere that the device won't turn-on anymore if upgraded to a different language, does that apply to an update via SD-card as well?
PS2: Installing the Android system on this device would be an option?
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sorry this is just to test my signature will be back but I do not think Android is an option for your phone it is all about technical specs to port Android on that phone and only Asus will have that
by example I know about a project named Andromnia this is how to use Android on Omnia-WM phone
nice try!! but believe me this is about reverse engineering and does not works for now- no gps/gprs/wifi signal and Android crashes
funny, that andromnia showed me, asus user, that android could be real for REAL PDA's.
andromnia works on p750 when proper kernel is used,
EOT/
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funny, that andromnia showed me, asus user, that android could be real for REAL PDA's.
andromnia works on p750 when proper kernel is used, so i found ridiculous whining of ..omnia user here. where were users of omnia, when andoid on that device WAS real?
Now, go and focking buy android bs, you ignored andromnia maker for months, do not whine now.
well, HTC killed everything.
btw, is author of topic here?
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tell me, what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?
cit:
You can extract ABI file and flash you device through SD card
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sooo..it seems, that updater BUG is reason, not roms itself here.
funny is, that rom cooking for this machine is quite real, if tools i can see are working.
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upd: ok, so, if i see it right, all you need is to:
fully charge battery,
extact exe, get abi,
copy abi to empty sd card(NOT SHDC!),
go to bootloader(hard to say how - try dpad right + soft reset) and
wait.
when update's done, do hard reset.
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of course, i cannot say at this moment, if whole process is safe, it works fine with zinc device(that seem to have identical flash procedures and SAME cross-lang error when manufacturer way of flashing is used(exe)).
i will try to get more info from my mate asap. cross your fingers, and wait a bit.
here's tool you may try to get abi file from original asus updater EXE file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368401
if it's not working, there's another one, maybe more universal,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511158
btw, are you from Pakistan?
Thanks all of you for your input.
1 - There is NO AsusUnlockLangID.exe for Asus P735 - do not know why.
The one from P535 or P525 is useless on this phone.
2 - Great point about "same-upgrade-tool-language-possibility" yet the official ROM comes in an .exe file that i do not know how to unpack/hack in order to insert the correct ROM or vice-versa.
Could you provide me with some insight for that?
3 - Besides that, do you think a tweaked P750 ROM could work on this phone, or a hybrid P535/735? Wouldn't that be the best/easiest solution, which would in the same way finally create a more advanced ROM for this quite neglected device? The older P535 has even 6.5 ROMs whereas P735 is limited to the basic 6.0. (Does that have any advantage by the way?)
4 - I am open to any way of flashing, given it provides the right result so all your advices are welcome.
Yes, the author is very present
@Pupakota
Ok, thank you, i've just read your last answer. I'm gonna try the tool you're talking about and inform you of the result.
PS: No, i'm not from Pakistan though i love the country, are you from there?
PS2: Any way to port the 6.1 version to P735, to kill two flies in one shot ?
3 - Besides that, do you think a tweaked P750 ROM could work on this phone, or a hybrid P535/735? Wouldn't that be the best/easiest solution, which would in the same way finally create a more advanced ROM for this quite neglected device? The older P535 has even 6.5 ROMs whereas P735 is limited to the basic 6.0. (Does that have any advantage by the way?)
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p750 is different pair of shoes, nothing would be useful in this case. do not try any roms made for different devices(trivia, i know).
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i dare to say, that any rom is possible for 735... while searching info, people made every possible build, including 6.5's...ALL chinese :E
rom from exe is exctractable, then fully dumpable, packages are clean and good...
btw, that ABI file is just a renamed rom.bin...
while Activesync method of EXE flashing is wrong, only way of avoiding problem is using SD card flash method then by using that pseudo "abi" file.
dpad to right + softreset should start flash procedure. if not, it may be some key on the right side of the device + soft reset(hard to understand translated chinese...).
but before you decide to try...
could you, AsusP, make photo of bootloader mode?
and please, post link of exe file you were trying to flash, i need it(i mean this english one). for some reason dumped rom from "WWE" version seem to be...hebrew... i really would extract real english rom.
now, only problem is, that besides of one case i did not see any clear information, if sd flash with languague change is safe.
one person wrote it is.
Hi, i'll get back to you ASAP regarding other questions, in the meanwhile here is the link of the firmware in question (that i'm trying to use) :
http://support.asus.com/Download.as...e=P735_FUU_Malaysia.zip#P735_FUU_Malaysia.zip
yup, this one seems to be exactly like one i tried to extract, indeed, it's wwe.
damn, it's OLD
it seems, that cooking custom roms is possible for this device without special problems. new 6.1 or 6.5 should work MUCH faster, than your actual one, or that wwe from asus...
try to make photo of bootloader, and tell me, which version of 735 do you have, 64 mb or 128 mb of ram?
ahh and one last question: do you have original updater with german version of rom, that you CAN flash(i mean, that you have now, in your device)? it may be neccesary, if you ever dare to make further experiments.
"try to make photo of bootloader, and tell me, which version of 735 do you have, 64 mb or 128 mb of ram?"
It is 64MB RAM, same as all Asus P7XX devices i guess, if not upgraded (mine is not).
Sorry, but how do you make photos of the bootloader? Do you mean the update tool?
"ahh and one last question: do you have original updater with german version of rom, that you CAN flash(i mean, that you have now, in your device)? it may be neccesary, if you ever dare to make further experiments."
I have it in the device yes but i don't have the program/CD if that's what you mean. It could be downloaded though from Asus i think...
PS: WWE stands for...?
Sorry, but how do you make photos of the bootloader?
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Bootloader mode flash(with unpacked from exe rom image on sd card) seem to be Only way to update your device.
I am trying to determine risk linked to this method, so i need photo of LOOK of bootloader mode.
You may enter BL mode by pressing dpad RIGHT and making soft reset, if i am right.
then something should appear, and this is what i want you to photograph it for me(with..camera).
of COURSE, do not put abi image on sd card YET, otherwise you start to update, and we do NOT know yet, if you brick your machine or not.
so, at this moment i just ant to see hot it look like, without flashing, if its typical 525/750 bootloader, not some weird thing, i'd assume, that abi file flashing should not brick machine.
sorry or enigmatic words, cannot explain this easier way.
It is 64MB RAM, same as all Asus P7XX devices i guess, if not upgraded (mine is not).
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..so not all 735's have 64 mb ram, i'd say, ok?
look, i do not know nothing about your knowledge level, many users of 750's with 128 mb ram are using 64 mb version of roms(typical noob would have no idea to try any different), this is why i mentioned it...
btw, besides using GanFan-ZincROMXtractor's easier way of obtaining rom file from exe is just using restorator, reshack, or similar tool to extract rom at res 152.
result is identical as using zincromextractor, though name of file must be set manually - it is Mars_G4.abi (though, it is not..real abi file, but it doesn't matter).
WWE stands for...?
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english rom...
what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?
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hey, do you have account on one of chinese pda sites?
could you download and post here any 735 kitchen for me, sir?
i'd like to have a look onto it, but for some reason i am not able to register.
WWE World Wide English - got it.
Pupakota thanks a lot for your efforts, i've had a busy schedule these days, i'll paste you all the info soon.
My knowledge level is basic yet i have some experience of programing from before and i'm very keen to learn about this, more than just using the system.
HELLO ALL,
The OTA 4.1.1 & later 4.5.1 was pushed to Apollo & Saturn (NEW GEN HDX 8.9") Devices adding firefly functionality along with other functionality (WHICH ARE CRAP ACCORDING TO ME)
So in order to get the device back to JB ie.. 3.X version Contact amazon customer services and Say that the Kindle is not working properly after the updates & roll back to the 3.x version.
have the device fullly charged 80% or more and they will initiate a Rollback.
Remember the device will never Get any OTA after this !!
Also it would be a lot lot helpful if some one can locate the ota file downloaded (via ES file explorer) so that we can copy it & share on XDA & help other fellow men.
Also I'd request you to contact Amazon via Phone for Source Code & bootloader info & get the call escalated to higher officials so that there are possibilities of getting info.
I'd request all the devs & members to file a petition (Change.org) with regards to the bootloader and simultaneously work on development
All active members & Ashamed owners of HDX's (Ashamed because with marvellous hardware we have a Crappy OS) include or add devs in this sections via PM or replies so that they can look over this & find a solution soon.
Also I'm thinking that a manual roll back can be done but it needs testing & i need some help in that as well
I believe all the magic is with build.prop & ota.prop that checks the versions.
Interested members can carry on the work here and update the results as well
In the mean time any suggestions are also appreciated
Anyone who will do the rollback, please root device and place file /cache/recovery/last.log (something like that) here.
Thank you.
ONYXis said:
Anyone who will do the rollback, please root device and place file /cache/recovery/last.log (something like that) here.
Thank you.
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What will that have?
Give as much as info possible please.
Another observation : As manual update via bin file can be done on Kindle, I opened the file via WinRar & was able to see contesnts as a Zip File so why cant we add su and required root files then update kindle ???
As far as the bin file check is concerned..build.prop edit will work
This give to us name and location of rollback file and some other information about upgrade (downgrade) process.
It is necessary to start somewhere...
About your observation - we can''t flash modified bin in any way.
Btw during upgrade latest firmwares check not only build.prop but keys that located in system recovery. So modifying build.prop is not enough.
Well thanks a lot for the info mate I didn't knew that!!
Just for curiosity how will that file lead. Just need more info about it... I might get that file to you and will that file be even after s factory reset is performed?
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This give to us name and location of rollback file and some other information about upgrade (downgrade) process.
It is necessary to start somewhere...
About your observation - we can''t flash modified bin in any way.
Btw during upgrade latest firmwares check not only build.prop but keys that located in system recovery. So modifying build.prop is not enough.
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Do you have a HDX?
Which one n will there be any problem if I get thor's file? Does it need to be specific?
Can get the file n other stuff within 2 days to you..
Let me also know about keys n. Bin stuff... Atleast point me to some info thread I'll read...
btw a rollback editing bin file worked! I tried to do the same but on 4.5 os now
Any one on 4.3 can try opening 4.5.bin file adding root and then updating...may b can try atleast!?
rollback file is "mod-update-kindle-thor-13.3.2.6_user_713326020.bin"
it is all I know at this moment.
And "NO" again, every editing of original bin corrupts CRC, and file do not pass checking. Do not waste the time. Do you think that no one tried for a year to do it?
Sorry if this is a dumb question but has anyone tried calling the support and asking them to rollback and had success? I just want to make sure that they will do it before I try it
Yes. Guy from my russian forum successfully rolled back after contacting support. So it possible. And he sent me logs of this downgrade in which I saw name of rollback-file - mod-update-kindle-thor-13.3.2.6_user_713326020.bin
Got the Kindle on 14.3.2.7_user_372002520
Unable to root it ! ADB doesn't recognizes device anymore....
I was curious on .bin mod. (Yes i can imagine people trying to edit .bin but i needed an explanation thats it.....)
Now let me know what next !!! ??
How do i proceed ??
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Sorry if this is a dumb question but has anyone tried calling the support and asking them to rollback and had success? I just want to make sure that they will do it before I try it
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Tell me if they deny !!!!
They will surely !!! No questions asked !
HELP.
Can anyone explain me how to downgrade? I got the update-kindle-13.4.1.1_user_411010320.bin and update-kindle-13.3.2.5_user_325001120.bin. But when I try to flash the rom the mentioned way it sais that it isn't possible because there is a newer rom installed. how can I circumvent this problem? Any ideas?
You need to contact Customer Support.
At this moment only they can initiate downgrade.
BTW be careful. Maybe now downgradable version is 13.3.2.7 and its not rootable. But I'm not sure.
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You need to contact Customer Support.
At this moment only they can initiate downgrade.
BTW be careful. Maybe now downgradable version is 13.3.2.7 and its not rootable. But I'm not sure.
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Rooting works !
yesss I did it!
I did it ! ish :/
With good acting i made up some drama and called support and had them roll me back to OS 4.1.1 B] like a boss
now what shoud i do or edit ...am not familiar with the Bin file language or the kindle fire :/
standard AOSP
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I did it ! ish :/
With good acting i made up some drama and called support and had them roll me back to OS 4.1.1 B] like a boss
now what shoud i do or edit ...am not familiar with the Bin file language or the kindle fire :/
standard AOSP
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What are you looking for exactly?
There's really nothing you can do with 4.1.1 — rooting, custom ROMs, etc. require you be on 14/13.3.2.6 or lower.
AmazonLeaker said:
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Remember the device will never Get any OTA after this !!
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Okay, why is that? Is there more information on that? I also read a response from the Amazon support posted on another (German) board which warned about the same thing and that further updates might require help from customer support.... I just don't understand why you loose OTA capability? Even if it doesn't update automatically (which most people prefer a anyway, I guess), wouldn't you be able to just initiate an OTA by clicking on it in system preferences ?
Thanks!
Gave it a go, here is my experience:
I started a chat and asked to roll back to 14/13.3.2.6, the person was happy to help and did not dig into they wy. The steps they had me follow:
- factory reset
- re-register device (was still on 4.5.1 as would be expected)
- they pushed something, I saw a system update in the notify tray but it was only there for a brief moment
- They then had me check for updates
- I told them it did not find anything
- I took a look at my kindle storage and there were 6 nameless files that showed up. When I looked at their properties there was no name or file type on them. I tried to copy them off the device but it would not let me, got a generic access message about not being able to copy the files.
- I was then told that 4.5.1 can not be rolled back and that I should return the tablet for a refund (they did say 4.1.1 can be rolled back). I think this was to be expected based on the "kill switch" code that was found in the new update. I can't find the post/link to the conversation now but I think it was code found in the kernel. Not sure Kill switch is the right term either.
- They are providing me a free shipping label
- Will likely get a 2013 Nexus 7
I'm sorry I'm new to how these forums work and replies and all that. Is there a way to downgrade from 4.5.1 to be able to root? It would be really helpful if someone could give me a straight answer as to if it can be done or not. Thanks!