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Daydream good idea?

Hi, is using daydream a good idea?
I would let it run about 7 hours each night, do you think this would affect the screen lifetime by a noticeable amount?
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Hidden92 said:
Hi, is using daydream a good idea?
I would let it run about 7 hours each night, do you think this would affect the screen lifetime by a noticeable amount?
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Well if you aren't using the phone, I can't imagine why you'd want the screen on for 7 hours. Eventually your screen will fail, might take years and years, but leaving it on an excessive amount will certainly shorten it's lifespan.
If you just want a clock for when you wake up, I'd recommend just turning off Daydream since it only takes a second to turn the screen on. Daydream certainly isn't enough of a time saver to compromise your display's life.

I was always using my Palm Pres as night/alarm clock on the touchstone charger without issues. Did the same with my GNex and its docking station and plan to do the same with my N4 and wireless charger.

Hung0702 said:
Well if you aren't using the phone, I can't imagine why you'd want the screen on for 7 hours. Eventually your screen will fail, might take years and years, but leaving it on an excessive amount will certainly shorten it's lifespan.
If you just want a clock for when you wake up, I'd recommend just turning off Daydream since it only takes a second to turn the screen on. Daydream certainly isn't enough of a time saver to compromise your display's life.
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If it takes years it doesn't matter, I will switch to the next nexus when it's out anyways, so I won't use this phone much longer than a year. It's not about the clock, it just looks really nice (using beautiful widget) and when waking up, or just in the evening it would be a nice feature.
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If it takes years it doesn't matter, I will switch to the next nexus when it's out anyways, so I won't use this phone much longer than a year. It's not about the clock, it just looks really nice (using beautiful widget) and when waking up, or just in the evening it would be a nice feature.
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Post your battery life here!

I've been noticing and reading many many posts regarding how bad or optimized our battery life is.
I had this phone little more than 24 hours now. And I feel like it hasn't fully when through the battery cycle. Thus killing my phone in less than 10 hours. This is with very light usage as well!
I've also turned off gps and wifi.
I have turned on stamina, along with various other battery saving features.
Now I am coming from galaxy s3, note 2, and iPhone 5. (my iPhone has this same issue and cleared when I've started using the phone and going through few charging cycles)
I just wanna make sure that our phone isn't plagued by the software, hence this phone is only available via t-mobile or Sony (unlocked as well).
Please post your battery life photos.
Including rooted or not.
Also post which rom / kernel you are using.
Mine: stock from t-mobile. And not rooted.
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We already had/have a similar topic in the Q&A section, no need to open a new one.

I see a lot of wake events. Check what's keeping your phone from deepsleeping with wakelock detector.

Yup you have a lot of wake events, I had this problem too. I reseted, reflashed firmware multiple times and still experienced problems until I sent it to Sony and somehow now there is barely any awake entries at all. Only screen entries appear (blue line on screen) and no lines on awake.. I do still get *backup* wakelocks and some qcom_RX_wake lock though
Xperia Z Vanilla

Dsteppa said:
We already had/have a similar topic in the Q&A section, no need to open a new one.
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Just report this unnecessary thread. Thanks!

Just use the tips in my thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2382712

i get about 20+ hours of stand by and around 3-4 hours of screen using it normaly not playing games

The phone was horrible initially and on 4.1.2 then after the 4.2.2 update it has been brilliant. It lasts me just over 24hrs on normal us with screen time between 5-6hrs. I'm very pleased as by 17h00 it is normally at around 55%. So it lasts me a full active day.
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After 4 months my Xperia Z barely lasts a day with just 1,5h of screen on time. Sony said the battery is good. Restored different firmware, tried 4.1, 4.2, CM - nothing helps. I'm very unhappy...

The media server keep draining my battery...
But when I switch my sd card to a empty one or just remove it the media server nolonger drain my battery.
So I only keep a small amont of pic and musics in my sdcard and that makes the battery can last more the one day

the battery life was improved from 4.1 to 4.2 . That being said, the battery life is still much to be desired.

yamadamaha said:
the battery life was improved from 4.1 to 4.2 . That being said, the battery life is still much to be desired.
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Tbh I was really worried about the battery life on the Z, I have had my phone nearly 24hours and I am not concerned by bad battery life so far. The battery seems very good actually, its no S4 but the S4 does have a bigger battery and uses a AMOLED screen. Iirc LCD/TFT use more battery or maybe I have got that wrong.

RCJ89 said:
Tbh I was really worried about the battery life on the Z, I have had my phone nearly 24hours and I am not concerned by bad battery life so far. The battery seems very good actually, its no S4 but the S4 does have a bigger battery and uses a AMOLED screen. Iirc LCD/TFT use more battery or maybe I have got that wrong.
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I'll assume you are not a heavy user of some sorts? The frequency of usage i mean.
I'm not sure about the screen part though but it does make sense if AMOLEDs screen uses less battery than LCD/TFT screens since they actually off the black pixels.

yamadamaha said:
I'll assume you are not a heavy user of some sorts? The frequency of usage i mean.
I'm not sure about the screen part though but it does make sense if AMOLEDs screen uses less battery than LCD/TFT screens since they actually off the black pixels.
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Well since I have charged the phone I haven't played any games on it
16hour 1 min 22secs since off charge and 58% remaining
1hr 44mins 29secs phone calls
1hr 50mins 18secs screen on
16h 1 mins 17secs cell standby
13mins 40 secs android system
7 mins 31secs media server
14hr 11mins 4 secs phone idle
1min 36secs phone
1min 42 secs walkman
7mins 7 secs android os
4 min 15secs dolphin browser

JB 4.3 Sony stock

beni8978 said:
JB 4.3 Sony stock
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No wifi /3g?
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No wifi /3g?
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Wifi was on 70% of that time.

Don't we already have a Thread and lots of results for Battery life here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2185362

Stock rooted 4.3. No undervolt, no nothing, just stamina mode on. This is the best update I ever had on a phone in terms of battery life.
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Forgot to add this too.
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KitKat Battery drain heat issue fixed

I can now say with some degree of certainty that I have fixed the KK battery drain heating issue and it does make sense and my thoughts on google profiling seem to be correct just that I didn't realise this particular issue could be disabled in settings.
Symptoms of problem
1. Phone not sleeping (staying warm on standby)
2. Not Charging correctly (longe time or not able to charge)
3. Media Server staying active (scanning SD card worse if you have large external SF loaded with files)
4. Sluggish performance
Simple cure
Go to settings/accounts/google/Ads and tick box for "opt out of interest based Ads"
also note that the long named folder on your internal and external sd similar to this .hgsdgfasfueuedhfyjei is your ads id that google uses to profile your content - this process requires that google scans your files and if you have nearly 80gb then it causes obvious problems, this folder only appeared after upgrade to KK

Let me test and I'll let you know if it work.
Thanks for the tip.
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please do

I have to say that this isnt a fix, i have had this setting since it is there and since I upgraded to kk the heat problem.
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yes there may be other causes which I may also have mentioned here, google has admitted there is an issue with the camera module and apps that call it like Skype - to be fixed in 4.4.3
I have worked with this problem now for weeks and this is the first major step in finding a complete solution for my Z1 - give it a while before you denounce it, you may have apps that are not written for KK that can cause issues - I have already ruled them out and was still left with a serious problem - the Ads setting fixed it 100%, I am now gradually installing apps again
This is a complex problem

I found out that deactivating wifi optimization will help a bit with heat and battery.
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masterv1 said:
I found out that deactivating wifi optimization will help a bit with heat and battery.
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Isn't this one going to reduce battery usage when being on a Wifi connection?
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Geoffxx said:
yes there may be other causes which I may also have mentioned here, google has admitted there is an issue with the camera module and apps that call it like Skype - to be fixed in 4.4.3
I have worked with this problem now for weeks and this is the first major step in finding a complete solution for my Z1 - give it a while before you denounce it, you may have apps that are not written for KK that can cause issues - I have already ruled them out and was still left with a serious problem - the Ads setting fixed it 100%, I am now gradually installing apps again
This is a complex problem
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Thanks Geoffxx you are right that this is a very complex problem and Google should have issued a fix long before now but when they do how long will it be before Sony release it? Also why have Google bought these new security measures in knowing that a lot of the apps on their app store are not compatible and it will cripple a lot of their users phones?
I'm a hundred percent behind you in what your saying and for me Google are leaving a very bitter taste in my mouth and apple or wp are looking very attractive at the moment unfortunately [emoji20]
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At the moment it helps...
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Will try myself and report back.
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My problem was solved when I used wakelock terminator on Google Play services. I think I'd related with ads and location services. So far so good not issues with Google now.
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Destroyedbeauty said:
Isn't this one going to reduce battery usage when being on a Wifi connection?
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Yeah it should lower the battery usage, but for me it does the opposite.
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If I tick the "opt out of interest based Ads" from settings can I delete the file named like .hgsdgfasfueuedhfyjei ?
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Alan

Never ending story...
Tell me why do I not have those problems with battery?

zigory said:
Never ending story...
Tell me why do I not have those problems with battery?
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I don't really have a battery drain issues, and occasionally the phone gets quite warm after I have used it for a while.
I do have a 64G external SD which is nearly full, and I do suffer from sluggishness sometimes. It was like in the 2.2 days where you get occasional jerkiness while scrolling. Never had these problems before 4.4.
Also, it takes a long time for the call screen to go off after I terminate a call - don't think this has anything to do with this ads stuff, but ...

zigory said:
Never ending story...
Tell me why do I not have those problems with battery?
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everyone has different configurations apps setting attachments etc - in my case I had SW2 (with it's apps) apps that I had installed over the years from XZ which I like to use - 64gn Ext SD installed
I worked for weeks to try and cure this issue since KK release, hours of deleting/disabling apps processes - wiping my phone completely - removing the ext sd card and reformatting, then scanning all the files with various tools and putting them back on the SD
sometimes I got a result and the phone would calm down for a day but then returned with a vengeance, it reached a point were the only way I could charge the phone in the dock was to turn it off as the charger didn't have enough to compensate for the drain
the issue always seemed related to the ext SD if I unmounted the card it vastly improved but still wasn't just quite right, the clear indication that a problem existed was the heat and the mediaserver using 40% of battery
I am very protective of my data and my privacy and opt out of everything possible - no clouds - no syncs - don't use FB or twitter - all google/sony social stuff is disabled as much as possible but the one I missed was the Ads setting in accounts/google not sure if it existed in 4.3 - once I ticked that box my phone is 100% normal, I have installed my apps back again and everything is still running smooth and cold, my phone can now go 2+ days without needing recharged which is much better than <6 hours
It is fixed 100% and I can say that with complete confidence
If you still have an issue then here are the steps I would advise
remove all installed hardware - check
Remove all user installed apps - check
if still have a problem do a repair update with PCC
return device to sony to check for hardware fault
PS forgot to mention - no need to delete those long folders .hhfdhfhsysyfghshsusd they will keep coming back

pehkblui said:
I don't really have a battery drain issues, and occasionally the phone gets quite warm after I have used it for a while.
I do have a 64G external SD which is nearly full, and I do suffer from sluggishness sometimes. It was like in the 2.2 days where you get occasional jerkiness while scrolling. Never had these problems before 4.4.
Also, it takes a long time for the call screen to go off after I terminate a call - don't think this has anything to do with this ads stuff, but ...
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I saw symptoms like this when I inadvertently enabled some double tap/magnification option in accessibility settings, it went away once I disabled it

Battery drains, no matter what you do, processor eats energy and so do other sensors ... :cyclops:

alighilzai said:
Battery drains, no matter what you do, processor eats energy and so do other sensors ... :cyclops:
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now there's a man with all the answers lol
I expect my Z1 to last more than 5 hours on standby in my pocket
it is now lasting over 3 days without charge

i think
Geoffxx said:
now there's a man with all the answers lol
I expect my Z1 to last more than 5 hours on standby in my pocket
it is now lasting over 3 days without charge
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Sorry to hear about battery draining issues.
This is actually something that works on my phone, but i have however noticed a decrease in batterylife and i havent changed anything.
But fully charged 5 in the morning and modest use to 15:00(some msg, music and so on). after that i use it like nonstop with the screen on and at about 21:00 the battery says about 10%. i think that is pretty good.

New Sony Z5 getting very hot

Got my Z5 on EE (UK) yesterday.
transferred everything last night and was fine.
Today at work and phone in my pocket and it is getting very hot.
Its not in a case etc.
anyone else have this issue?
I've had the Z1 and Z2 and they never got this hot.
I know the 810 had heating issues on the Z3 but thought they sorted this on the Z5

No heat issues here. Gets warm when streaming video for long periods and got a little warmer when I was downloading/replacing info on my 1,000+ songs but that's it. Any memory hogging apps running constantly?

augie7107 said:
No heat issues here. Gets warm when streaming video for long periods and got a little warmer when I was downloading/replacing info on my 1,000+ songs but that's it. Any memory hogging apps running constantly?
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That's what i'm going to look at tonight.

No issues here!
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shaz2sxy said:
Got my Z5 on EE (UK) yesterday.
transferred everything last night and was fine.
Today at work and phone in my pocket and it is getting very hot.
Its not in a case etc.
anyone else have this issue?
I've had the Z1 and Z2 and they never got this hot.
I know the 810 had heating issues on the Z3 but thought they sorted this on the Z5
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Same issue for me which then involves rapid battery drain ?
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AJHutchinson said:
Same issue for me which then involves rapid battery drain
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I noticed the drain aswell on mine.
Been of the charge since 7am and battery is now one 13%(had to go into Stamina mode a couple of hours ago)
My Z2 and Z1 was soo much better.
Will keep an eye on it and see how it goes.

shaz2sxy said:
I noticed the drain aswell on mine.
Been of the charge since 7am and battery is now one 13%(had to go into Stamina mode a couple of hours ago)
My Z2 and Z1 was soo much better.
Will keep an eye on it and see how it goes.
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Z, Z1 and the Z3 all seemed to manage more than half a day?, guess it probably just these uk contract models ?
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Sounds like some kind of carrier installed crapware is running in the background and chewing CPU cycles. Disable everything, I say! xD

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Sounds like some kind of carrier installed crapware is running in the background and chewing CPU cycles. Disable everything, I say! xD
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Most likely, will flash a UK generic at some point ?
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810 is too powerful-_-||

Been using the phone now for a few days now and it has settled. Haven't had it get that hot anymore.
I did a clean up and tooke some crap off so not sure if it was that or just something running in the background.

I think its same as the z3+ since the mostly the same internals, Also its normal with 8core cpu nowadays

For people who are having overheating issues, where are you located, and what is the ambient temperature? Does it only overheat when taking videos/photos or does it overheat when gaming?

komugi said:
For people who are having overheating issues, where are you located, and what is the ambient temperature? Does it only overheat when taking videos/photos or does it overheat when gaming?
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It's 21 °C here and the camera does overheating the phone, while the heating is kinda acceptable while playing games.

komugi said:
For people who are having overheating issues, where are you located, and what is the ambient temperature? Does it only overheat when taking videos/photos or does it overheat when gaming?
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I'm in the UK and its around 15celcius if that.

Mine got quite hot while downloading and installing all my apps while charging at the same time, but only on top where I normally don't hold it, at least not in portrait mode. in the middle it was warm but not uncomfortably hot.
with normal usage there was no problem. But I'll have to test it further...

Today I did check demo piece with on retailer here in Singapore. I used camera and play one game and view pics in gallery. Entire activity was about 12 min and I realized the heat issue is quite obvious. Thinking whether to buy it or not....

Nearly every phone gets hot in shops - it's because its screen is always on, firmware is not updated and every second someone is playing with that phones. My Z5 only gets warm when I use it a bit more than usual.

Hong Kong generic Z5 here
The phone only got "very hot" on the first day I got the phone when I was setting up the phone and transferring stuff.
Frankly it does get hot some time, but it's acceptable.
Even I put the phone in an armband when I run, with music and Runtastic on, the phone was still cooler after 40min than Xperia Z did.

Same overheating issue. I hope new software will get us rid out of this problem.

Help with battery...

Hi i bought New S8 02.03.2018r.
So I have it 8 Days... and my battery Time is teribble look at SS sorry for my bad english... on 100% battery Samsung Tell me he can work for 10 hours rly? My old S7 had better results... I dont know what I should do

It happend to me as well when I bought it. Give it some time and it will optimize things.
Also, what's your usage like? LTE all the way, no wifi?
As a note, when I got mine it kept at ~3hours of SOT for awhile, now I get 5 minimum with my usage (I'm what you call a power user).
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Hi i bought New S8 02.03.2018r.
So I have it 8 Days... and my battery Time is teribble look at SS sorry for my bad english... on 100% battery Samsung Tell me he can work for 10 hours rly? My old S7 had better results... I dont know what I should do
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So how Long it take... because it's terrible I must take charger with me...

I didn't really pay attention. It took ~ a week after I finished with all the setup and updates and everything. I.e. once I was back to my normal self/usage.
Like everything in life it needs some time to settle.
I had this with every smartphone I had.
Cheers!

Like I said I have this 8 Days... and it's The same 3,45 h SOT and 9H on battery when I use it

I think it all varies, and there are a lot of factors to take into consideration.
For me it took that long to settle because I have a lot of apps that I need (around 30) mostly work related, that require some time to build caches and everything.
Anyway, here's my usage for ~5hours of SOT:
-WiFi most of the day
-brightness at 40%
-data on regardless of WiFi (in case I have to run outside or something)
-around 20apps with push notifications on
-bluetooth always on and connected to my gear s2
-location always on
-calls ~2hours a day
-texting a lot (WhatsApp and regular text)
I charge it in the mornings and it gets me all the way to next morning with ~ 15/20% left.
That said, battery consumption cannot be determined solely by screen on time, there are a lot of other things that might drain your battery, for example LTE(mobile data) always on.
I'm on mobile data at most a couple of hours a day(WiFi at work and at home) so that helps a lot with battery life.
I also don't keep more than 10 apps running, and I tend to close an app if I'm done with it for the day.
But it all depends on usage.
If I play games(which I rarely do) the screen on time would decrease considerably, as games use the gpu and processor a lot.
Also, I keep my screen's brightness at around 30/40% (mostly because I hate it when my eyes hurt from too much brightness ).

Get use to it - battery in S8 is crap. You can try to root it, debloat it, greenify it, forcedoze it. I did all of that, but, nevertheless my s8 has to be charged on everyday basis.

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Get use to it - battery in S8 is crap. You can try to root it, debloat it, greenify it, forcedoze it. I did all of that, but, nevertheless my s8 has to be charged on everyday basis.
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In every phone the battery is not good ( except sony in my experience).
I had some 4000 maH battery phones and frankly after 6 months i got to charge them every day. Especially after updates. That is unfortunate because we spent lot of money for them. Nevertheless i am happy for now with the performance and didn't debloat anything. If it gets worse i would change the battery and go on.

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In every phone the battery is not good ( except sony in my experience).
I had some 4000 maH battery phones and frankly after 6 months i got to charge them every day. Especially after updates. That is unfortunate because we spent lot of money for them. Nevertheless i am happy for now with the performance and didn't debloat anything. If it gets worse i would change the battery and go on.
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Yeah, sony have somewhat better battery life from my pov as well. Maybe it's because Samsung have better display and stronger guts inside, or it's "stamina mode" magic. It's a shame that Sony phones are so ugly nowadays.

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Get use to it - battery in S8 is crap. You can try to root it, debloat it, greenify it, forcedoze it. I did all of that, but, nevertheless my s8 has to be charged on everyday basis.
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Darayavahus said:
Yeah, sony have somewhat better battery life from my pov as well. Maybe it's because Samsung have better display and stronger guts inside, or it's "stamina mode" magic. It's a shame that Sony phones are so ugly nowadays.
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I agree. If they change their design.... Maybe.... ?

Kernel? 12%!?

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Kernel? 12%!?
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Hello
I deactivate bixby global aktions and bixby Service and thats the result after 3 days
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okay I will also try to disable Google assistant and Bixby and give you feedback about the battery drain

No difference
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Hello
I deactivate bixby global aktions and bixby Service and thats the result after 3 days View attachment 4446647
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