Hi Just A quick ltitle qeustion, is it possible to flash a different bootloader on oe1? I want to flash the od5 bootloader on my oe1 updated s5 so I can downgrade back to kitkat and install a miui rom, but someone told me it would just brick my phone.
chaos10299 said:
Hi Just A quick ltitle qeustion, is it possible to flash a different bootloader on oe1? I want to flash the od5 bootloader on my oe1 updated s5 so I can downgrade back to kitkat and install a miui rom, but someone told me it would just brick my phone.
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Search before you post. And repost, and repost, and repost.
ldeveraux said:
Search before you post. And repost, and repost, and repost.
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I did nothing about flashing a different bootloader comes up
chaos10299 said:
I did nothing about flashing a different bootloader comes up
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You're essentially asking if you can downgrade from oe1. If you searched for what you're actually trying to do, you'd know...
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You're essentially asking if you can downgrade from oe1. If you searched for what you're actually trying to do, you'd know...
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Look all I found was that oe1 will not let you downgrade with the mega locked bootloader verizon added so I was wondering if I can flash the od5 bootloader by instelf which would allow me to downgrade to kitkat to root. I do not have root so I can't use the how to update to oe1 and keep root me think but in the method it says to flash the od5 bootloader but I don't know if I have to already be rooted or not.
No, because if you could do what you're suggesting, then you would be able to downgrade from oe1, which you can't.
chaos10299 said:
Look all I found was that oe1 will not let you downgrade with the mega locked bootloader verizon added so I was wondering if I can flash the od5 bootloader by instelf which would allow me to downgrade to kitkat to root. I do not have root so I can't use the how to update to oe1 and keep root me think but in the method it says to flash the od5 bootloader but I don't know if I have to already be rooted or not.
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You may be onto something with your approach here. Here's a novel idea I think you should try. Start yet ANOTHER thread asking the exact same question. Maybe this time you will get a different answer.
Oh and by the way, your idea in the OP of this thread is completely flawed to begin with. From the day of release, this phone had been unable to run miui or any AOSP based ROM.
landshark68 said:
You may be onto something with your approach here. Here's a novel idea I think you should try. Start yet ANOTHER thread asking the exact same question. Maybe this time you will get a different answer.
Oh and by the way, your idea in the OP of this thread is completely flawed to begin with. From the day of release, this phone had been unable to run miui or any AOSP based ROM.
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You can run this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/rom-miui-v5-g900f-ry09iu-4-8-11-t2946540 verizon with a kitkat kernel I've already had it once.
chaos10299 said:
You can run this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/rom-miui-v5-g900f-ry09iu-4-8-11-t2946540 verizon with a kitkat kernel I've already had it once.
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Hahaha, no you can't. I read the last 10 pages or so of the thread you linked, and your phone froze up after install. Running a ROM on a phone means after install and set up the phone actually works, functions like it should, and you can use it. The bootloader on our phone is locked down which means no miui or any other AOSP ROMs because we can't flash a traditional recovery. The dev himself in that thread said he didn't think his miui ROM worked on Verizon phones. Keep trying to flash not only an AOSP ROM, but one meant for the international version, and I look forward to reading your post where you write that you now have a $600 paper weight.
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Hahaha, no you can't. I read the last 10 pages or so of the thread you linked, and your phone froze up after install. Running a ROM on a phone means after install and set up the phone actually works, functions like it should, and you can use it. The bootloader on our phone is locked down which means no miui or any other AOSP ROMs because we can't flash a traditional recovery. The dev himself in that thread said he didn't think his miui ROM worked on Verizon phones. Keep trying to flash not only an AOSP ROM, but one meant for the international version, and I look forward to reading your post where you write that you now have a $600 paper weight.
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Ok and I have the money for it. And it didnt work because i was on lollipop dummy the rom is based off of kitkat and the dev told me i could try it on lollipop, he said he doesn't know if it'll work on lollipop. I don't know why you have to be rude about it. It was a simple question that I asked for a simple answer. But thanks goodbye.
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I'm just gonna stick with rooting. Will rooting hold up against the update or will I have to nandroid unlock and flash a stock rooted rom?
This has been asked several times. Please visit the Android development section and you will see. A little searching doesn't hurt.
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Well there is so much information being thrown around at the moment, that I haven't been able to find a stock rooted 1.47.xx rom, either, and all I do is search.
OP: If you find it, let me know and I will do the same.
thats because one doesnt exist.
Use a patched version of the OTA or a ROM with it baked in and you keep root. Flash non-patched OTA and you loose root. eazy-peazy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712695
the OTA will break your root.
however, if you've already done that, you can reroot since the most recent OTA has been rooted.
Short answer is yes.
Long answer will involve you going to a different sub forum for evo and looking it up.
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thats because one doesnt exist.
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Ha! Thanks.....believe it or not, that actually explains a lot. I think I'll wait for a stock rooted rom to be available.
Things can change quite quickly around here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718889
Herein lies the answer to your quest. ;-)
seankent4uf said:
Things can change quite quickly around here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718889
Herein lies the answer to your quest. ;-)
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Yea, I saw that earlier, but this is for people who upgraded via the OTA 1.47.xx and then lost root. For this to work for me, I'd have to willingly upgrade to the OTA, and then run through these steps. I don't think I want to do that.
I'm in the process of unlocking NAND now since I'm going to need to have that done in order to proceed with anything related to 1.47.xx, so once I get this done, I'll worry about finding something that works.
I am pretty sure this is what you are looking for... It is a Rooted rom, based off the 1.47 update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712695
or this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915
which one of those work?
I was actually running the first of the 2 links myself, since I was having major problems with my EVO, and could only use limited ROMs. It was very reliable, but I wanted the flexibility to run other ROMs. I have not run the one posted in the 2nd link, but from some of the replies, it works well also. If you are already rooted, and are comfortable flashing ROMs, I would recommend the first, since it loads just like any other ROM. It all depends on how much work you want to do.
Ok so i know i am a newbie to this sort of thing but i wanted to wrap my head around everything and also specifically to my phone before i decide to do something and the results are permanent.
Firstly ill start off with saying im a Canadian Virgin Mobile customer and i just got the Galaxy S4 (SGH-i337m).
Ok so i want to root my device but i am confused about some of the basic concepts. I saw the tutorial video posted for my specific phone by the smoking android (link for those who havent seen it: youtube. com/watch?v=cI9r5dEcNo4) and i understand that the rooting process is fairly simple.
What i am confused about though is my options once i am a root user and if i ever chose to revert back to original. Lets say i went ahead and rooted my phone. Will i be able to software update through the updates that virgin sends me? also if i am able to then will i maintain root acess?
my second biggest question is lets say for whatever reason i want to go back to the way my phone is now, with the stock virgin firmware. is this possible? and with no trace of the root before (is this the same as achieving original status instead of a custom one)? i know that you can remove the root and then reset the binary counter but im not too sure how all of this works, its a lot to take in at once.
im just trying to clear things up and yes i am quite new to all this (got my s4 yesterday) but i am a quick learner and im just trying to get a grip on everything.
thanks in advance for bearing with me
shibby123 said:
Ok so i know i am a newbie to this sort of thing but i wanted to wrap my head around everything and also specifically to my phone before i decide to do something and the results are permanent.
Firstly ill start off with saying im a Canadian Virgin Mobile customer and i just got the Galaxy S4 (SGH-i337m).
Ok so i want to root my device but i am confused about some of the basic concepts. I saw the tutorial video posted for my specific phone by the smoking android (link for those who havent seen it: youtube. com/watch?v=cI9r5dEcNo4) and i understand that the rooting process is fairly simple.
What i am confused about though is my options once i am a root user and if i ever chose to revert back to original. Lets say i went ahead and rooted my phone. Will i be able to software update through the updates that virgin sends me? also if i am able to then will i maintain root acess?
my second biggest question is lets say for whatever reason i want to go back to the way my phone is now, with the stock virgin firmware. is this possible? and with no trace of the root before (is this the same as achieving original status instead of a custom one)? i know that you can remove the root and then reset the binary counter but im not too sure how all of this works, its a lot to take in at once.
im just trying to clear things up and yes i am quite new to all this (got my s4 yesterday) but i am a quick learner and im just trying to get a grip on everything.
thanks in advance for bearing with me
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Read these threads...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312444
Information that isn't in those threads are definitely linked to in those threads. Good luck.
scott14719 said:
Read these threads...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312444
Information that isn't in those threads are definitely linked to in those threads. Good luck.
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ok so i read the threads an i understand a lot more now. It seems to me like i have the ability to easily root and then go back to the stock firmware if i please with no consequences. i just have to flash the with the correct rom [and modem?] to put it back to stock and everything should work fine.
i hope i have this straight
shibby123 said:
ok so i read the threads an i understand a lot more now. It seems to me like i have the ability to easily root and then go back to the stock firmware if i please with no consequences. i just have to flash the with the correct rom [and modem?] to put it back to stock and everything should work fine.
i hope i have this straight
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Why modem? is that really necessary, I think you mean kernel.
if you flash back to stock, modem and kernel will be included.
Have you tried this thread also? you do have a i337m
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2269304
Good Luck
Is there a way to unroot my AT&T S4 with a Mac?
blbeesley said:
Is there a way to unroot my AT&T S4 with a Mac?
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flash the latest at&t official firmware via heimdall
TheAxman said:
Why modem? is that really necessary, I think you mean kernel.
if you flash back to stock, modem and kernel will be included.
Have you tried this thread also? you do have a i337m
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2269304
Good Luck
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so if i just flash to that stock firmware in the link you gave me everything will be back to normal? how would i achieve original and not "custom" status if i have to send the phone back to samsung. would i have to unroot then flash then reset the binary counter? would that be it and im back to the very original state i got my phone in?
shibby123 said:
so if i just flash to that stock firmware in the link you gave me everything will be back to normal? how would i achieve original and not "custom" status if i have to send the phone back to samsung. would i have to unroot then flash then reset the binary counter? would that be it and im back to the very original state i got my phone in?
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xBeerdroiDx said:
flash the latest at&t official firmware via heimdall
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Will heimdall use the zip downloaded from sammobile or do you have to extract the .tar.md5 from the zip?
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xBeerdroiDx said:
also check out this post
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your good sir, you got 2 thanks from me today...no more for you actually, I'm out of thanks, get you tomorrow.
Good help.
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your good sir, you got 2 thanks from me today...no more for you actually, I'm out of thanks, get you tomorrow.
Good help.
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community
cheers, buddy
Hi,
I am kicking myself for accepting on OTA without checking XDA first. Only got my S4 yesterday.
Is there a thread/irc chat/etc, (on XDA or elsewhere) where any discussion is going on regarding custom recovery installation and bootloader unlock on MF3 OTA?
I just want to take a look.... not to bug anyone.
Check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40828975
gregk232 said:
Hi,
I am kicking myself for accepting on OTA without checking XDA first. Only got my S4 yesterday.
Is there a thread/irc chat/etc, (on XDA or elsewhere) where any discussion is going on regarding custom recovery installation and bootloader unlock on MF3 OTA?
I just want to take a look.... not to bug anyone.
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Look in the first couple of pages in the General section. There are a few threads about it, just look at the thread titles.
So I've searched around and found this post which seems to be fit my question. I recent brought a jflteatt and it was upgraded to MF3 (FML) Now I see that I can still root the phone but no custom recovery. I did some more searching and it appears I may be able to downgrade. Is this safe Will it downgrade the bootloader? From what I'm seeing it's using odin method so I would think it would downgrade everything. Please insight would be greatly appreciated!
zeyoner said:
So I've searched around and found this post which seems to be fit my question. I recent brought a jflteatt and it was upgraded to MF3 (FML) Now I see that I can still root the phone but no custom recovery. I did some more searching and it appears I may be able to downgrade. Is this safe Will it downgrade the bootloader? From what I'm seeing it's using odin method so I would think it would downgrade everything. Please insight would be greatly appreciated!
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You cannot down grade. Doing so will Bork your recovery. There is an efuse that is blown when the phone is upgrade to mf3 in the internal circuitry.
You cannot downgrade from mf3.
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Damit!! wtf!
So I'm stuck with this MF3 BS. I just don't get why have bootloaders locked. Isn't it against the Android usage agreement?
zeyoner said:
Damit!! wtf!
So I'm stuck with this MF3 BS. I just don't get why have bootloaders locked. Isn't it against the Android usage agreement?
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Follow the work on safe strap. It's close to being a work around to be able to flash custom roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45186518
jd1639 said:
Follow the work on safe strap. It's close to being a work around to be able to flash custom roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45186518
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Sweet! :victory:
This safestrap is pretty interesting reminds me of the HTC HD2. You can even install multiple ROMs. This is great, it'll hold me down until maybe one day the bootloader is unlocked! I hate this bootloader locked BS. I had to deal with it when I had the HTC Aria. But it ended up being unlocked and S-Off.
Hello, I was wondering for those who kept root going from 4.1.2 to kitkat 4.4, how did you do it? My phone is currently locked but rooted and I just downloaded the OTA kit kat update but haven't installed it yet. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
No current method so don't upgrade if root is essential. Only unlocked bootloaders can get root back.
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We haven't seen anybody maintain root on a locked device across the OTA yet.
RikRong said:
We haven't seen anybody maintain root on a locked device across the OTA yet.
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what about on a device that is unlocked?
voodoo?
On an unlocked device you can just flash SuperSU in recovery...
And Voodoo won't work with a KitKat OTA.
how do you flash if root was lost when updated..im unlocked and had twrp but heard that is no longer working..and what is stranger is that developers option in settings s not there
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davekaz said:
how do you flash if root was lost when updated..im unlocked and had twrp but heard that is no longer working..and what is stranger is that developers option in settings s not there
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First off, in regards to TWRP, there is a newer version of CWM recovery that works with KK. Use that.
Second, the developer options have been hidden, but you have to pay me to get the info.
JUST KIDDING!
Here is what you do:
Go to settings.
Click on "About Phone"
Scroll down and then start mashing on "Build Number". It will inform you that you have so many presses before going to developer mode.
After that, it will give you a toast saying developer mode has been activated. You're done!
If someone could kindly put together a walk thru on
How to go from stock, rooted, and unlocked to kit Kat w/root
That would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
I am in the same boat, rooted on stock ROM. I don't want to lose root, but my phone keep popping up the update installer request. My phone has kept me so happy for so long that I have not kept up with the forums. I just haven't had any problems, and I'd like to keep it that way. So, is there no root for 4.2.2 yet? Or there just isn't a way to preserve it across the OTA? Should I go back to stock unrooted, update and re-root? I've been reading around the forums and I am just not seeing a whole lot of info about this yet.
gadsden said:
I am in the same boat, rooted on stock ROM. I don't want to lose root, but my phone keep popping up the update installer request. My phone has kept me so happy for so long that I have not kept up with the forums. I just haven't had any problems, and I'd like to keep it that way. So, is there no root for 4.2.2 yet? Or there just isn't a way to preserve it across the OTA? Should I go back to stock unrooted, update and re-root? I've been reading around the forums and I am just not seeing a whole lot of info about this yet.
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this has been discussed many times.
if you have a LOCKED phone, there is NO way to have or preserve root going to KK
if you have a UNLOCKED phone, update to KK, flash the KK cwm, flash su zip in cwm, profit!
those are the only 2 options PERIOD.
bweN diorD said:
this has been discussed many times.
if you have a LOCKED phone, there is NO way to have or preserve root going to KK
if you have a UNLOCKED phone, update to KK, flash the KK cwm, flash su zip in cwm, profit!
those are the only 2 options PERIOD.
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Ok, well, I am not unlocked. So is there a way to stop the OTA?
gadsden said:
Ok, well, I am not unlocked. So is there a way to stop the OTA?
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you can freeze the updater. i dont recall the exact file name(s).
someone else can jump in, or you could google it.
bweN diorD said:
you can freeze the updater. i dont recall the exact file name(s).
someone else can jump in, or you could google it.
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You are correct, just freeze the updater.apk. Well, it's worked for me anyway.
RikRong said:
You are correct, just freeze the updater.apk. Well, it's worked for me anyway.
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Some people say it's better to rename System > etc>security > otacerts.zip. Equal amount of people say to freeze updater. I'll follow you and freeze updater for now.
I'm itching to update to KK, and I can almost part with a rooted phone since I am running stock ROM anyway. But life without Titanium Backup just doesn't seem like a life at all.
Thanks again for the tips.
Speaking of freezing the update app, I have been doing that since before the last update so I'm currently running 4.1.2 9.16.6.XT926 does anyone know if it will cause me any trouble skipping an OTA?
Thanks.
sheep348 said:
Speaking of freezing the update app, I have been doing that since before the last update so I'm currently running 4.1.2 9.16.6.XT926 does anyone know if it will cause me any trouble skipping an OTA?
Thanks.
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you should unlock the bootloader first if you havent already. after you update you will no longer be able to ever.
as for the update, if you flash it with rsd there shouldnt be any issue that im aware of. if you unfreeze the updater and take the actual ota(s), it will not skip any, it will pull the next in line each time until you get to the most current.
however, you will still need to use rsd before taking or sideloading the KK ota or root will cause it to fail.
bweN diorD said:
you should unlock the bootloader first if you havent already. after you update you will no longer be able to ever.
as for the update, if you flash it with rsd there shouldnt be any issue that im aware of. if you unfreeze the updater and take the actual ota(s), it will not skip any, it will pull the next in line each time until you get to the most current.
however, you will still need to use rsd before taking or sideloading the KK ota or root will cause it to fail.
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Thanks for the help but I don't have a lot of knowledge about rooting. If I don't care about keeping root can I just take the OTAs or are you saying they will they fail if I don't first unlock the boot loader?
"after you update you will no longer be able to ever" What will I not be able to update again? The bootloader?
Thanks.
sheep348 said:
Thanks for the help but I don't have a lot of knowledge about rooting. If I don't care about keeping root can I just take the OTAs or are you saying they will they fail if I don't first unlock the boot loader?
Thanks.
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He's saying you could probably find someone who would be willing to pay you handsomely to trade phones.
Once you update your phone, the bootloader can't be unlocked....as far as we know, ever again. If you don't care, which it sounds like you don't, go ahead and update your phone.
sheep348 said:
Thanks for the help but I don't have a lot of knowledge about rooting. If I don't care about keeping root can I just take the OTAs or are you saying they will they fail if I don't first unlock the boot loader?
Thanks.
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most people who dont unlock the bootloader when they had the chance regret not doing it. its not a problem if you dont want to, i was just giving you a heads up more or less.
as for the updates,(this has nothing to do with the bootloader) im pretty sure the first 2 will install fine but im positive the 3rd, KK, will fail because you had root before.
so if you want to go to KK, you really have no other option but to use rsd first to return your phone to stock.
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He's saying you could probably find someone who would be willing to pay you handsomely to trade phones.
Once you update your phone, the bootloader can't be unlocked....as far as we know, ever again. If you don't care, which it sounds like you don't, go ahead and update your phone.
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Thanks bweN diorD and gadsden,
I appreciate the help. I only use my root access for killing music apps and I have some bloatware frozen. So personally I think I'll go ahead and update to KK since the benefits should outweigh the loss of root access for me. Should I do a factory reset first or should I be good to go taking the OTA?
Thanks again I'm always hesitant to do things to my phone because I don't have the knowledge to fix it or the money to replace it.
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bweN diorD said:
most people who dont unlock the bootloader when they had the chance regret not doing it. its not a problem if you dont want to, i was just giving you a heads up more or less.
as for the updates,(this has nothing to do with the bootloader) im pretty sure the first 2 will install fine but im positive the 3rd, KK, will fail because you had root before.
so if you want to go to KK, you really have no other option but to use rsd first to return your phone to stock.
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Again thanks, I guess I'll have to look into finding out how to use rsd and go back to stock.
I'm on KitKat (4.4.2) stock. KOT49H.G900VVRU1ANCG is the build according to about phone.
My phone is rooted and that's it. I never upgraded because of fear of slow-downs and lack of root, but it's about time.
Is it possible to unlock the bootloader and then upgrade to marshmallow and get root? I keep seeing people saying there's a Lollipop root method but no Marshmallow method. But if the bootloader is unlocked doesn't that make it possible to root Marshmallow too? I checked and I have the 15XXXXX CID.
So any ideas how to best go about this?
I just want the simplest experience. No crazy ROMs or bug, nothing I have to keep updating. Just a smoother running phone than I have on my dated KitKat.
Royal2000H said:
I'm on KitKat (4.4.2) stock. KOT49H.G900VVRU1ANCG is the build according to about phone.
My phone is rooted and that's it. I never upgraded because of fear of slow-downs and lack of root, but it's about time.
Is it possible to unlock the bootloader and then upgrade to marshmallow and get root? I keep seeing people saying there's a Lollipop root method but no Marshmallow method. But if the bootloader is unlocked doesn't that make it possible to root Marshmallow too? I checked and I have the 15XXXXX CID.
So any ideas how to best go about this?
I just want the simplest experience. No crazy ROMs or bug, nothing I have to keep updating. Just a smoother running phone than I have on my dated KitKat.
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Read the stickies, there are threads each for unlocking and upgrading.
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Read the stickies, there are threads each for unlocking and upgrading.
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Thanks for the reply, but as you can see I've looked at the threads (even mentioned my CID). My concern is that, as I mentioned, "I keep seeing people saying there's a Lollipop root method but no Marshmallow method."
Since that part isn't clear to me, I hoped someone would clear it up.
Royal2000H said:
Thanks for the reply, but as you can see I've looked at the threads (even mentioned my CID). My concern is that, as I mentioned, "I keep seeing people saying there's a Lollipop root method but no Marshmallow method."
Since that part isn't clear to me, I hoped someone would clear it up.
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Go to the unlock thread that's located in the Android Development section. There's a method for unlocking to get to MM.....if you read a little bit deeper in the threads that ideveraux had mentioned if you have the 11 CID you cannot be rooted on MM because it uses a different kernel. That said, users with the 15 CID can be rooted on MM AFTER they've unlocked their Bootloader. Again, go to the unlock thread and read up