I'm on KitKat (4.4.2) stock. KOT49H.G900VVRU1ANCG is the build according to about phone.
My phone is rooted and that's it. I never upgraded because of fear of slow-downs and lack of root, but it's about time.
Is it possible to unlock the bootloader and then upgrade to marshmallow and get root? I keep seeing people saying there's a Lollipop root method but no Marshmallow method. But if the bootloader is unlocked doesn't that make it possible to root Marshmallow too? I checked and I have the 15XXXXX CID.
So any ideas how to best go about this?
I just want the simplest experience. No crazy ROMs or bug, nothing I have to keep updating. Just a smoother running phone than I have on my dated KitKat.
Royal2000H said:
I'm on KitKat (4.4.2) stock. KOT49H.G900VVRU1ANCG is the build according to about phone.
My phone is rooted and that's it. I never upgraded because of fear of slow-downs and lack of root, but it's about time.
Is it possible to unlock the bootloader and then upgrade to marshmallow and get root? I keep seeing people saying there's a Lollipop root method but no Marshmallow method. But if the bootloader is unlocked doesn't that make it possible to root Marshmallow too? I checked and I have the 15XXXXX CID.
So any ideas how to best go about this?
I just want the simplest experience. No crazy ROMs or bug, nothing I have to keep updating. Just a smoother running phone than I have on my dated KitKat.
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Read the stickies, there are threads each for unlocking and upgrading.
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Read the stickies, there are threads each for unlocking and upgrading.
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Thanks for the reply, but as you can see I've looked at the threads (even mentioned my CID). My concern is that, as I mentioned, "I keep seeing people saying there's a Lollipop root method but no Marshmallow method."
Since that part isn't clear to me, I hoped someone would clear it up.
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Thanks for the reply, but as you can see I've looked at the threads (even mentioned my CID). My concern is that, as I mentioned, "I keep seeing people saying there's a Lollipop root method but no Marshmallow method."
Since that part isn't clear to me, I hoped someone would clear it up.
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Go to the unlock thread that's located in the Android Development section. There's a method for unlocking to get to MM.....if you read a little bit deeper in the threads that ideveraux had mentioned if you have the 11 CID you cannot be rooted on MM because it uses a different kernel. That said, users with the 15 CID can be rooted on MM AFTER they've unlocked their Bootloader. Again, go to the unlock thread and read up
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My wife just purchased a Sprint Moto x. I have been researching root methods for it and am VERY confused. There seems to be no straight this is what firmware you need to be on, this is the procedure you need, etc it just seems to be all over the place. It would do well to have a sticky on root for these devices. But anyway, she is on 4.2.2 and I told her not to take any updates in case they patch root exploits available. Can anyone tell me for sure if root is possible for this version, and if not is there anyway to get back to a version that is capable ? And the tool needed if applicable. I would be very appreciative of any help or guidance!
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wessiide said:
My wife just purchased a Sprint Moto x. I have been researching root methods for it and am VERY confused. There seems to be no straight this is what firmware you need to be on, this is the procedure you need, etc it just seems to be all over the place. It would do well to have a sticky on root for these devices. But anyway, she is on 4.2.2 and I told her not to take any updates in case they patch root exploits available. Can anyone tell me for sure if root is possible for this version, and if not is there anyway to get back to a version that is capable ? And the tool needed if applicable. I would be very appreciative of any help or guidance!
Sent from my SCH-I545
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Go there to unlock the bootloader and follow the instructions. If an OTA update is available it's safe to take it.
Then after follow this (Only if your bootloader is unlocked already) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2534850
You'll also need Motorola Fastboot as it is recommended by them.
If you root on 4.2 you need to use SlapMyMoto I think to retain root through 4.4.
Basically you pick your poison. By the way, unlocking bootloaders on non Developer edition device voids your warranty completed. So keep that in mind when choosing.
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Go there to unlock the bootloader and follow the instructions. If an OTA update is available it's safe to take it.
Then after follow this (Only if your bootloader is unlocked already) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2534850
You'll also need Motorola Fastboot as it is recommended by them.
If you root on 4.2 you need to use SlapMyMoto I think to retain root through 4.4.
Basically you pick your poison. By the way, unlocking bootloaders on non Developer edition device voids your warranty completed. So keep that in mind when choosing.
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Thanks for the info. This will be my 5th rooted phone and 3rd bootloader unlock so the warranty thing means nothing to me, but I appreciate the help. Info is sporadic and inbetween on this forum.
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I have also been trying to read up on rooting the Sprint version and have had a hard time. It's in this forum in several places but not as nicely laid out as in other device forums. Basically, from what I have read, the easiest way to do this is to unlock Bootloader.
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I have also been trying to read up on rooting the Sprint version and have had a hard time. It's in this forum in several places but not as nicely laid out as in other device forums. Basically, from what I have read, the easiest way to do this is to unlock Bootloader.
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Yes you are correct, unlock your boot loader flash twrp recovery and finally flash supersu, which version of android are you currently running as there's 2 versions of tarp, 1 for jb the other for kitkat
Here's a sticky thread with all the required links http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558785
For kitkat use mfastboot (Motorola binary)instead of fastboot to flash recovery
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Or just use SlapMyMoto and use this http://sbf.droid-developers.org/download.php?device=0&file=18 for the 4.2.2 files you need.
Hello, I was wondering for those who kept root going from 4.1.2 to kitkat 4.4, how did you do it? My phone is currently locked but rooted and I just downloaded the OTA kit kat update but haven't installed it yet. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
No current method so don't upgrade if root is essential. Only unlocked bootloaders can get root back.
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We haven't seen anybody maintain root on a locked device across the OTA yet.
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We haven't seen anybody maintain root on a locked device across the OTA yet.
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what about on a device that is unlocked?
voodoo?
On an unlocked device you can just flash SuperSU in recovery...
And Voodoo won't work with a KitKat OTA.
how do you flash if root was lost when updated..im unlocked and had twrp but heard that is no longer working..and what is stranger is that developers option in settings s not there
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how do you flash if root was lost when updated..im unlocked and had twrp but heard that is no longer working..and what is stranger is that developers option in settings s not there
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First off, in regards to TWRP, there is a newer version of CWM recovery that works with KK. Use that.
Second, the developer options have been hidden, but you have to pay me to get the info.
JUST KIDDING!
Here is what you do:
Go to settings.
Click on "About Phone"
Scroll down and then start mashing on "Build Number". It will inform you that you have so many presses before going to developer mode.
After that, it will give you a toast saying developer mode has been activated. You're done!
If someone could kindly put together a walk thru on
How to go from stock, rooted, and unlocked to kit Kat w/root
That would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
I am in the same boat, rooted on stock ROM. I don't want to lose root, but my phone keep popping up the update installer request. My phone has kept me so happy for so long that I have not kept up with the forums. I just haven't had any problems, and I'd like to keep it that way. So, is there no root for 4.2.2 yet? Or there just isn't a way to preserve it across the OTA? Should I go back to stock unrooted, update and re-root? I've been reading around the forums and I am just not seeing a whole lot of info about this yet.
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I am in the same boat, rooted on stock ROM. I don't want to lose root, but my phone keep popping up the update installer request. My phone has kept me so happy for so long that I have not kept up with the forums. I just haven't had any problems, and I'd like to keep it that way. So, is there no root for 4.2.2 yet? Or there just isn't a way to preserve it across the OTA? Should I go back to stock unrooted, update and re-root? I've been reading around the forums and I am just not seeing a whole lot of info about this yet.
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this has been discussed many times.
if you have a LOCKED phone, there is NO way to have or preserve root going to KK
if you have a UNLOCKED phone, update to KK, flash the KK cwm, flash su zip in cwm, profit!
those are the only 2 options PERIOD.
bweN diorD said:
this has been discussed many times.
if you have a LOCKED phone, there is NO way to have or preserve root going to KK
if you have a UNLOCKED phone, update to KK, flash the KK cwm, flash su zip in cwm, profit!
those are the only 2 options PERIOD.
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Ok, well, I am not unlocked. So is there a way to stop the OTA?
gadsden said:
Ok, well, I am not unlocked. So is there a way to stop the OTA?
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you can freeze the updater. i dont recall the exact file name(s).
someone else can jump in, or you could google it.
bweN diorD said:
you can freeze the updater. i dont recall the exact file name(s).
someone else can jump in, or you could google it.
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You are correct, just freeze the updater.apk. Well, it's worked for me anyway.
RikRong said:
You are correct, just freeze the updater.apk. Well, it's worked for me anyway.
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Some people say it's better to rename System > etc>security > otacerts.zip. Equal amount of people say to freeze updater. I'll follow you and freeze updater for now.
I'm itching to update to KK, and I can almost part with a rooted phone since I am running stock ROM anyway. But life without Titanium Backup just doesn't seem like a life at all.
Thanks again for the tips.
Speaking of freezing the update app, I have been doing that since before the last update so I'm currently running 4.1.2 9.16.6.XT926 does anyone know if it will cause me any trouble skipping an OTA?
Thanks.
sheep348 said:
Speaking of freezing the update app, I have been doing that since before the last update so I'm currently running 4.1.2 9.16.6.XT926 does anyone know if it will cause me any trouble skipping an OTA?
Thanks.
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you should unlock the bootloader first if you havent already. after you update you will no longer be able to ever.
as for the update, if you flash it with rsd there shouldnt be any issue that im aware of. if you unfreeze the updater and take the actual ota(s), it will not skip any, it will pull the next in line each time until you get to the most current.
however, you will still need to use rsd before taking or sideloading the KK ota or root will cause it to fail.
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you should unlock the bootloader first if you havent already. after you update you will no longer be able to ever.
as for the update, if you flash it with rsd there shouldnt be any issue that im aware of. if you unfreeze the updater and take the actual ota(s), it will not skip any, it will pull the next in line each time until you get to the most current.
however, you will still need to use rsd before taking or sideloading the KK ota or root will cause it to fail.
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Thanks for the help but I don't have a lot of knowledge about rooting. If I don't care about keeping root can I just take the OTAs or are you saying they will they fail if I don't first unlock the boot loader?
"after you update you will no longer be able to ever" What will I not be able to update again? The bootloader?
Thanks.
sheep348 said:
Thanks for the help but I don't have a lot of knowledge about rooting. If I don't care about keeping root can I just take the OTAs or are you saying they will they fail if I don't first unlock the boot loader?
Thanks.
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He's saying you could probably find someone who would be willing to pay you handsomely to trade phones.
Once you update your phone, the bootloader can't be unlocked....as far as we know, ever again. If you don't care, which it sounds like you don't, go ahead and update your phone.
sheep348 said:
Thanks for the help but I don't have a lot of knowledge about rooting. If I don't care about keeping root can I just take the OTAs or are you saying they will they fail if I don't first unlock the boot loader?
Thanks.
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most people who dont unlock the bootloader when they had the chance regret not doing it. its not a problem if you dont want to, i was just giving you a heads up more or less.
as for the updates,(this has nothing to do with the bootloader) im pretty sure the first 2 will install fine but im positive the 3rd, KK, will fail because you had root before.
so if you want to go to KK, you really have no other option but to use rsd first to return your phone to stock.
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He's saying you could probably find someone who would be willing to pay you handsomely to trade phones.
Once you update your phone, the bootloader can't be unlocked....as far as we know, ever again. If you don't care, which it sounds like you don't, go ahead and update your phone.
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Thanks bweN diorD and gadsden,
I appreciate the help. I only use my root access for killing music apps and I have some bloatware frozen. So personally I think I'll go ahead and update to KK since the benefits should outweigh the loss of root access for me. Should I do a factory reset first or should I be good to go taking the OTA?
Thanks again I'm always hesitant to do things to my phone because I don't have the knowledge to fix it or the money to replace it.
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bweN diorD said:
most people who dont unlock the bootloader when they had the chance regret not doing it. its not a problem if you dont want to, i was just giving you a heads up more or less.
as for the updates,(this has nothing to do with the bootloader) im pretty sure the first 2 will install fine but im positive the 3rd, KK, will fail because you had root before.
so if you want to go to KK, you really have no other option but to use rsd first to return your phone to stock.
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Again thanks, I guess I'll have to look into finding out how to use rsd and go back to stock.
Just got another email from Motorola to sign up for a preview of a new software release. Probably fixes issues that were discovered after the KK upgrade.
CAUTION FOR THOSE WITH LOCKED DEVICES: Considering you just got a new root method, I would steer clear from this if you want to keep root. I have a feeling Towelroot will not work after this since it only works for kernels dated before June 3, 2014. Also, this might break the current tethering hack as well for 4.4.2.
It would be nice if this were a 4.4.3 update, but I don't know at this time. Since I'm unlocked, I'm going to go ahead and sign up for it and see what happens.
Just wanted to get the word out to anyone with locked bootloaders to probably stay away from this unless you don't care about root and the tethering hack.
The bad news about this means the "can I unroot my KitKat phone" won't go away once the OTA comes out.
Pretty obvious that locked users should be careful with the new OTA, same as before, don't rush ahead of yourself and install every OTA that Moto pushes out. Also today is a great day, we've got a root and apparently locked users can unlock their bootloader while being on 183.46.10 update. So I'd rather recommend people to take root and unlock and do whatever the hell they want after that, considering rooting and unlocking is as simple as just installing and running 2 apks.
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Pretty obvious that locked users should be careful with the new OTA, same as before, don't rush ahead of yourself and install every OTA that Moto pushes out. Also today is a great day, we've got a root and apparently locked users can unlock their bootloader while being on 183.46.10 update. So I'd rather recommend people to take root and unlock and do whatever the hell they want after that, considering rooting and unlocking is as simple as just installing and running 2 apks.
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What? Locked users can unlock the bootloader? How? I didn't see that. Motopocolypse, from what I understand, doesn't work with anything after 9.16 OTA. I got lucky and was able to unlock mine about a year ago (didn't have 9.18 OTA applied from the factory). Still, if people can unlock their bootloaders with the KK, that's great, but again, I have not heard nor seen anything that states this. I only knew about Towelroot and that's it.
As for it being obvious, didn't matter after this past KK upgrade. People did it anyways and we got an unflux of "how do I root this sucker?" over and over again.
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What? Locked users can unlock the bootloader? How? I didn't see that. Motopocolypse, from what I understand, doesn't work with anything after 9.16 OTA. I got lucky and was able to unlock mine about a year ago (didn't have 9.18 OTA applied from the factory). Still, if people can unlock their bootloaders with the KK, that's great, but again, I have not heard nor seen anything that states this. I only knew about Towelroot and that's it.
As for it being obvious, didn't matter after this past KK upgrade. People did it anyways and we got an unflux of "how do I root this sucker?" over and over again.
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I guess I'll be late and you've found that after upgrading to KK and rooting it, you can unlock bootloader with Motopocalypse ^^. Also idk why wouldn't anyone want to unlock BL, considering the phone is on its end of life cycle and won't get anymore android updates (e.g 4.5+) it seems rather wise to unlock and have all the goodies now and in the future.
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Also, this might break the current tethering hack as well for 4.4.2.
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I see you guys have been using the tether mod I posted for the ultra. no problem, I developed a new mod for 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 so if it does break tether and can make one for the HD.
I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
Droid Maxx "Developer Edition"
Topsnake said:
I see you guys have been using the tether mod I posted for the ultra. no problem, I developed a new mod for 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 so if it does break tether and can make one for the HD.
I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
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Awesome. Thanks a bunch for that. I'll definitely want to try it out once I the new OTA comes in. Since I have an unlocked bootloader, I'm not too frightened to do the OTAs, but to know that we can get another tether mod if it does indeed break with the next OTA, that's a relief.
tether seems broken..
Topsnake said:
I see you guys have been using the tether mod I posted for the ultra. no problem, I developed a new mod for 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 so if it does break tether and can make one for the HD.
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I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
Just to confirm, from what I can tell yes the tether hack seems to have broken, I am rooted, unlocked and all that good stuff so I can always flash back, but as a warning I tried to get it working again with no success.
Now I am not ruling out the possibility that I am a dope and screwed up the procedure somewhere, in which case I pray someone can confirm it works and maybe teach a fool to fish .
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I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
Just to confirm, from what I can tell yes the tether hack seems to have broken, I am rooted, unlocked and all that good stuff so I can always flash back, but as a warning I tried to get it working again with no success.
Now I am not ruling out the possibility that I am a dope and screwed up the procedure somewhere, in which case I pray someone can confirm it works and maybe teach a fool to fish .
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Uh. the tethering hack still works. Go here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...d-native-tether-exploit-build-183-46-t2872547
Hi Just A quick ltitle qeustion, is it possible to flash a different bootloader on oe1? I want to flash the od5 bootloader on my oe1 updated s5 so I can downgrade back to kitkat and install a miui rom, but someone told me it would just brick my phone.
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Hi Just A quick ltitle qeustion, is it possible to flash a different bootloader on oe1? I want to flash the od5 bootloader on my oe1 updated s5 so I can downgrade back to kitkat and install a miui rom, but someone told me it would just brick my phone.
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Search before you post. And repost, and repost, and repost.
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Search before you post. And repost, and repost, and repost.
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I did nothing about flashing a different bootloader comes up
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I did nothing about flashing a different bootloader comes up
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You're essentially asking if you can downgrade from oe1. If you searched for what you're actually trying to do, you'd know...
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You're essentially asking if you can downgrade from oe1. If you searched for what you're actually trying to do, you'd know...
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Look all I found was that oe1 will not let you downgrade with the mega locked bootloader verizon added so I was wondering if I can flash the od5 bootloader by instelf which would allow me to downgrade to kitkat to root. I do not have root so I can't use the how to update to oe1 and keep root me think but in the method it says to flash the od5 bootloader but I don't know if I have to already be rooted or not.
No, because if you could do what you're suggesting, then you would be able to downgrade from oe1, which you can't.
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Look all I found was that oe1 will not let you downgrade with the mega locked bootloader verizon added so I was wondering if I can flash the od5 bootloader by instelf which would allow me to downgrade to kitkat to root. I do not have root so I can't use the how to update to oe1 and keep root me think but in the method it says to flash the od5 bootloader but I don't know if I have to already be rooted or not.
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You may be onto something with your approach here. Here's a novel idea I think you should try. Start yet ANOTHER thread asking the exact same question. Maybe this time you will get a different answer.
Oh and by the way, your idea in the OP of this thread is completely flawed to begin with. From the day of release, this phone had been unable to run miui or any AOSP based ROM.
landshark68 said:
You may be onto something with your approach here. Here's a novel idea I think you should try. Start yet ANOTHER thread asking the exact same question. Maybe this time you will get a different answer.
Oh and by the way, your idea in the OP of this thread is completely flawed to begin with. From the day of release, this phone had been unable to run miui or any AOSP based ROM.
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You can run this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/rom-miui-v5-g900f-ry09iu-4-8-11-t2946540 verizon with a kitkat kernel I've already had it once.
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You can run this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/rom-miui-v5-g900f-ry09iu-4-8-11-t2946540 verizon with a kitkat kernel I've already had it once.
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Hahaha, no you can't. I read the last 10 pages or so of the thread you linked, and your phone froze up after install. Running a ROM on a phone means after install and set up the phone actually works, functions like it should, and you can use it. The bootloader on our phone is locked down which means no miui or any other AOSP ROMs because we can't flash a traditional recovery. The dev himself in that thread said he didn't think his miui ROM worked on Verizon phones. Keep trying to flash not only an AOSP ROM, but one meant for the international version, and I look forward to reading your post where you write that you now have a $600 paper weight.
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Hahaha, no you can't. I read the last 10 pages or so of the thread you linked, and your phone froze up after install. Running a ROM on a phone means after install and set up the phone actually works, functions like it should, and you can use it. The bootloader on our phone is locked down which means no miui or any other AOSP ROMs because we can't flash a traditional recovery. The dev himself in that thread said he didn't think his miui ROM worked on Verizon phones. Keep trying to flash not only an AOSP ROM, but one meant for the international version, and I look forward to reading your post where you write that you now have a $600 paper weight.
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Ok and I have the money for it. And it didnt work because i was on lollipop dummy the rom is based off of kitkat and the dev told me i could try it on lollipop, he said he doesn't know if it'll work on lollipop. I don't know why you have to be rude about it. It was a simple question that I asked for a simple answer. But thanks goodbye.
Sorry for the confusing title, I'm coming from a Nexus 6 that was one of the easier phones to root and customize. So far I'm on month 3 with my V20 and haven't rooted it yet. If I do and receive a OTA I will obviously lose my root, but once I have an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery installed, can I just reflash SuperSU to reroot?
Thanks.
OTAs on this device overwrite the bootloader and recovery. you WILL lose root. and all methods to get it back.
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OTAs on this device overwrite the bootloader and recovery. you WILL lose root. and all methods to get it back.
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So then rooting is pointless right now?
Should have got the Pixel.
Thanks!
tjlmbklr said:
So then rooting is pointless right now?
Should have got the Pixel.
Thanks!
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Rooting isn't pointless. You still have access to all the exclusive root features you wouldn't normally have of course. Why would you want to take an OTA anyways unless you have some issue with your phone (just curious)? You could just wait for someone to post TWRP flashable updates for your variant of the V20 so that you can keep root access while still updating.
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Rooting isn't pointless. You still have access to all the exclusive root features you wouldn't normally have of course. Why would you want to take an OTA anyways unless you have some issue with your phone (just curious)? You could just wait for someone to post TWRP flashable updates for your variant of the V20 so that you can keep root access while still updating.
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I'm waiting on 7.1 and fear I will finally root and it will come along in a OTA and I will not be able to root again until someone comes up with a new form of root.
I could be way off though, like I said, noob question, I came from a Nexus 6 where root and flashing custom ROMs was a cake walk for a guy like me.
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all you need is someone who can provide updated stock roms like i do on the ls997 On the sprint model we have the latest OTA applied
Yeah but as you know development on the H990ds isn't exactly buzzing.
Neither are the other devices anymore
I guess. Surprises me as the V20 is a fantastic device.
But LG didn't make anything easy for you devs.