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WiFi Calling for the T-Mobile version?

This is a thread to discuss any findings, in regards to WiFi calling for the Moto X Style/2015/Pure.

Since there is going to be one unlocked version for all carriers, I'm guessing it's going to be included a carrier's software delivery service in the phone that when you log into your network, it download all the bloatwares for that specific carriers to your phone, or not.
I guess they won't have it because previous Moto X didn't have it either.

The Nexus 6 recently got updated to Android 5.1.1 which addressed the Wi-Fi Calling feature add-on baked in. In fact, from what I've read, T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling is open source and Google directly worked with it to incorporate it natively in Android M, basically have the feature baked in. Having the previous in mind, I would think the Moto X Style will eventually have this feature, especially once it is updated to Android M, which should be soon after Android M is officially released by Google. Any other thoughts?

dannycarrasco8708 said:
...I would think the Moto X Style will eventually have this feature, especially once it is updated to Android M, which should be soon after Android M is officially released by Google. Any other thoughts?
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I keep forgetting that Android M feature and the fact T-Mobile is one of few carriers ready to support it .
That settles it for sure.
I'm waiting for September, to buy a Moto X Pure/Style.
The current Nexus 6 T-Mobile WiFi calling, requires the T-Mobile ROM for that device AFAIK. With the Moto Pure, we'll be able to have the true Moto Unlocked ROM and WiFi calling via Android M. Zero need for any T-Mobile controlled ROM.

Darnell_Chat_TN said:
I keep forgetting that Android M feature and the fact T-Mobile is one of few carriers ready to support it .
That settles it for sure.
I'm waiting for September, to buy a Moto X Pure/Style.
The current Nexus 6 T-Mobile WiFi calling, requires the T-Mobile ROM for that device AFAIK. With the Moto Pure, we'll be able to have the true Moto Unlocked ROM and WiFi calling via Android M. Zero need for any T-Mobile controlled ROM.
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Unfortunately that's just theoretical. AFAIK there has been nothing communicated by anybody that this would actually happen.

NCguy said:
Unfortunately that's just theoretical. AFAIK there has been nothing communicated by anybody that this would actually happen.
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It's 100% fact and already being used.

Darnell_Chat_TN said:
It's 100% fact and already being used.
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At a minimum it needs radio and firmware support. I haven't seen moto promise any support for wifi calling in any of their devices for M at this point. I believe its possible but mostly wishful thinking.

NCguy said:
At a minimum it needs radio and firmware support. I haven't seen moto promise any support for wifi calling in any of their devices for M at this point. I believe its possible but mostly wishful thinking.
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It's not as if they said the device won't have support. Do you even have record of them ever being asked? I feel it likely will. But we will see in very short time.
If not, I still prefer the Moto X Pure. But I see nothing to support pessimism on it at this point.
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Never got it why people stick to tmobile if they have no good coverage...
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
It's not as if they said the device won't have support. Do you even have record of them ever being asked? I feel it likely will. But we will see in very short time.
If not, I still prefer the Moto X Pure. But I see nothing to support pessimism on it at this point.
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My point was you had nothing to confirm that it was going to happen. I never said I had confirmation that it wasn't.
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ambervals6 said:
Never got it why people stick to tmobile if they have no good coverage...
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It's a cult thing. I drink the cool aide.

ambervals6 said:
Never got it why people stick to tmobile if they have no good coverage...
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Obviously nobody is going to pay a carrier for phone service if they cannot make calls. So, we who have T-Mobile must be getting coverage for our usual needs.
WiFi calling for me, would be a plus for the few times a year I am at a place where I cannot get phone coverage. And in some of those cases, AT&T devices can't get a signal either.
I should also mention, there is no "radio" support required. I've used T-Mobile WiFi calling on devices, where I flashed non-T-Mobile radios and with the T-Mobile ROM the WiFi calling still worked. So the WiFi calling is all in the ROM and that is what Google has in Android M. I've already cited above, that people using Android M previews are already using this with no issues. So, it will work with the Moto X Pure and there's zero to indicate otherwise.

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My point was you had nothing to confirm that it was going to happen. I never said I had confirmation that it wasn't.
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It's a cult thing. I drink the cool aide.
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I would switch to T-mobile is a flash if I didn't have to drive a mile from my house to make a phone call.

If you have WFi and a phone that has WiFi Calling anabled, then you don't have to drive a mile.
Fact is that you should find a carrier that suits your needs. For me, I'm in a huge metro area, but my parents live a little further out from a major city. BOOM! WiFi Calling solves the issue.
Cheaper plans, great feature, no problems.
DaleGriggs said:
I would switch to T-mobile is a flash if I didn't have to drive a mile from my house to make a phone call.
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Looks like WiFi Calling will not be supported - https://twitter.com/askdes/status/629308037405093888
Not sure what will happen once Android M is released though

Hmm. Guess you have to go with a carrier branded T-Mobile phone to get all of the cool features (wifi calling, hd voice, advanced text messaging, etc).
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thegreatone3 said:
Hmm. Guess you have to go with a carrier branded T-Mobile phone to get all of the cool features (wifi calling, hd voice, advanced text messaging, etc).
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Wonder if T-Mobile will even carrier it ... I'm fairly new to T-Mo (with them less than a year) but I don't recall them carrying either of the other X devices.

Motorola was pretty proud of the fact that they were bypassing the carriers entirely for their new devices. Problem is, it looks like their phones will be neutered compared to the carrier branded ones (at least for some T-Mobile feature). Guess I'll be waiting for the next Nexus to see what happens there.
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YankInDaSouth said:
Looks like WiFi Calling will not be supported - https://twitter.com/askdes/status/629308037405093888
Not sure what will happen once Android M is released though
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This was a given, since it's not running a T-Mobile ROM. But it already works in Android M preview ROMs. So we know for certain it will work without a T-Mobile ROM running M.

Is there a relationship between volte and band 12? I see them always mentioned together. Can you not do volte on bands 2 or 4?

I plan on testing the M preview radios out once I unlock it. I can also check into the band support from QXDM, etc. and see what would be necessary to get it going. Either way, I can easily see wifi calling working with it.

AT&T LTE Question

Quick question, I just got my moto x pure today and swapped my AT&T sim card from my note 5. I noticed when I make calls I use the HSPA network and not LTE. Any thoughts? I figured I would ask here first prior to dealing with AT&T directly.

Did it operate the same way in your Note 5? I use T-Mobile and it has always operated like that for me on all my devices and it will go back to LTE when the call is complete.

I believe that's to be expected. That's how both my S6 and OnePlus One were/are. (On AT&T)

My M8 does that as well. I don't know that AT&T has enabled VoLTE yet.
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Moto X Pure does not support volte on ATT yet.

That makes complete sense, I'll have to swap my sim back to the note5 and see if it supports volte. Bummer though, its useful in some situations when traveling.

xbrandx said:
Quick question, I just got my moto x pure today and swapped my AT&T sim card from my note 5. I noticed when I make calls I use the HSPA network and not LTE. Any thoughts? I figured I would ask here first prior to dealing with AT&T directly.
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Every phone I've had that didn't use "Stock" At&t signal bars, due to running a custom ROM, switched to HSPA.
This is completely normal behavior.

I agree with EVERYONE here. This has been the same since AT&T deployed LTE. No calls take place over LTE. The calls rely on the HSPA network. Once the call is over, LTE displays very quickly. Nothing to worry about OP.

Anyone can confirm if Band 12 works with a tmobile Sim?

Question: Do t-mobile phones work on Verizon?

Thinking of getting this BOGO s7 special from t mobile and switching to verizon at a later date. Would the s7 work on Verizon?

No. They generally do not.
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Tmobile phones only has GSM radios and not CDMA radios which is what Verizon uses. It might work if you put your sim card in there but it probably won't connect at full speed with Verizon's LTE since they have different frequencies.

Thanks guys.

I think the difference here is that the T-Mobile S7 says it supports LTE bands 4 and 13, so I wonder if it could be used as an LTE only device if you just swap SIMs.

phillthedrill said:
Tmobile phones only has GSM radios and not CDMA radios which is what Verizon uses.
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Holy crap its 2016 and people still post this?!

AkumaX said:
Holy crap its 2016 and people still post this?!
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It's 2016?
People post things?
What's the point of your comment? Sounds like your surprised CDMA and GSM still exists, or that people know they still exist.
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_Dennis_ said:
It's 2016?
People post things?
What's the point of your comment? Sounds like your surprised CDMA and GSM still exists, or that people know they still exist.
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I actually mixed it around and thought he asked if Verizon's S7 would work on T-Mobile (which it would)
And of course, the T-Mobile S7 wouldn't work on VZW (because of the missing CDMA radios, of course)
That doesn't exclude all T-Mobile phones -- T-Mobile capable phones such as the iPhone 6/6S, Nexus 5X/6/6P, and Moto X/X2 will work on both T-Mobile and Verizon.

T-mobile s7 will only work as data device. Only band 2 and 4 are supported on T-mobile version and no VoLte support.

Volte is nice but shouldn't be a deal breaker. Verizon didn't update their z3 with volte support until a year after its release.

JediDru said:
Volte is nice but shouldn't be a deal breaker. Verizon didn't update their z3 with volte support until a year after its release.
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But without VoLTE or CDMA you won't get any calls or SMS.
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Enable Simultaneous Talk and Mobile Data without HD Services

Hello, I just bought the s7 edge Verizon variant from Net10 and I've noticed that when I make a phone call I lose the Mobile Data. Now being that I'm not on a Verizon Account and I'm using a MVNO does anyone know a Mod or Prop edit that can be made to enable this functionality? I am coming from the Note 4 and I did not have this issue furthermore since I'm not on Verizon I can't officially activate the HD Features

It's a hardware limitation, the phones only have one radio and can't do CDMA and LTE at the same time.

Okay so the newer flagship devices are not capable of talking and Mobile Data at the same time? Yet legacy devices such as the Note 4 is? Furthermore of HD voice is enabled it works just fine... ?

FragmentedLogik said:
Hello, I just bought the s7 edge Verizon variant from Net10 and I've noticed that when I make a phone call I lose the Mobile Data. Now being that I'm not on a Verizon Account and I'm using a MVNO does anyone know a Mod or Prop edit that can be made to enable this functionality? I am coming from the Note 4 and I did not have this issue furthermore since I'm not on Verizon I can't officially activate the HD Features
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The feature is done by verizon on their end and since your using a non verizon phone on their network your phone will not be provisioned properly on their network, so although voice and data will work as these are sim controlled HD features will not. You can call verizon and plead your case, but Im assuming you just used an already activated sim and placed it in the phone

This is an actually Verizon device but I am operating on one of their MVNO Carriers which is Net 10, thanks for the input

FragmentedLogik said:
Okay so the newer flagship devices are not capable of talking and Mobile Data at the same time? Yet legacy devices such as the Note 4 is? Furthermore of HD voice is enabled it works just fine... ?
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Yes they are, but it requires VoLTE.

Google Fi Carrier Switching?

I'm curious, I'm VERY new to the android world (My iPhone XS Max is still my primary)
I started with Androids about a year ago out of both boredom and a desire to learn.
So, I picked up a Pixel 2, then an LG V30, then S8, then S9, until I found the OnePlus 6. I was instantly hooked on the OnePlus 6, only replacing it with the 6T for the fingerprint reader in the screen. (I still have the 6 and 6T, all others were sold)
Anyway - Google Fi is intriguing to me, as I end up in areas were T-Mobile simply doesn't work. I would like the carrier switching, but I don't have a desire to switch back to a more expensive Pixel 3 XL, that really ONLY offers me the advantage of the carrier switching. Overall, I found the OnePlus 6/6T running Pie to be the cleanest experience.
So, my question - Does anyone feel that someone may be able to get the OnePlus phones to do the carrier switching? Or is this actually a hardware feature? I know nothing about how Fi works, so please excuse my ignorance.
Thank you in advance for any productive responses.

Alternatively, maybe I should just sell the 6 and 6T and pickup with 3XL?

intrusdave said:
Alternatively, maybe I should just sell the 6 and 6T and pickup with 3XL?
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I believe that automatic carrier switching is an integral part of Google Fi
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Oops wrong. Only for fully supported phones.
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Yes, I understand that. But the question was "Does anyone feel that someone may be able to get the OnePlus phones to do the carrier switching? Or is this actually a hardware feature?"
In other words, if the switching software based that may be able to be patched into the 6/6T, or is it a modem hardware feature exclusive to the official Fi devices?

intrusdave said:
Yes, I understand that. But the question was "Does anyone feel that someone may be able to get the OnePlus phones to do the carrier switching? Or is this actually a hardware feature?"
In other words, if the switching software based that may be able to be patched into the 6/6T, or is it a modem hardware feature exclusive to the official Fi devices?
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I was hopping this would be fully functional as Fi announced support for non Fi devices, but apparently network swapping is not going to work or work so well. See the write up for the explanation.
https://www.xda-developers.com/project-fi-samsung-oneplus-lg-moto-iphones/

looks to me like the one plus 6 is on there, so, the T might work as well.
contact google directly, and ask them, thats the best way to find out

Ugh, is no one actually reading the question?
I'm not asking if the phone will work with Fi, I'm asking if the carrier switching is does in hardware or software, and if it is software do the devs here feel that they may be able to port the carrier switching to the other supported phones?

ok, now I understand..
asking questions here makes people assume you are discussing the 6T, NOT project fi/android in general..
good luck

wase4711 said:
ok, now I understand..
asking questions here makes people assume you are discussing the 6T, NOT project fi/android in general..
good luck
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Everything I read is that you would only be using T-Mobile. But since the 6t is dual SIM you can have dual service. I plan on getting a one plus 6t and using fi(TMO) for phone calls and texting and Unreal mobile (ATT) for Data. I am not sure if you can use VZW or Sprint for the second SIM but T-Mobile and AT&T is better in most cases than TMO and Sprint (no US Cellular in my area)
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Everything I read is that you would only be using T-Mobile. But since the 6t is dual SIM you can have dual service. I plan on getting a one plus 6t and using fi(TMO) for phone calls and texting and Unreal mobile (ATT) for Data. I am not sure if you can use VZW or Sprint for the second SIM but T-Mobile and AT&T is better in most cases than TMO and Sprint (no US Cellular in my area)
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Alternatively you can get a pixel 2 or 3 and project fi esim and an alternate SIM. Although it's only one SIM at a time. That way though you do get essentially 3 carriers to choose from for service

So I found if I could dial a code in my dialer for fi, with the Google Fi app installed and activated, and get "cannot switch carrier", all I had to do was clear data on my app and the dialer switch would work

It's on their site. When you choose the 6t it shows what's supported and what's not. See attached image

To answer your question, yes it appears to be a hardware problem. It is either that we don't have the cdma radios needed for sprint or el goog is playing favorites and only wants certain hardware to work for carrier switching between tmobile and sprint. I am not familiar with the us cellular required radios but it is likely the same el goog restriction in this case as well. My vote is that el goog is trying to get people to buy the officially supported devices for full functionality, they are becoming more and more just like all other carriers now, huh?
Either way I think I am switching back to fi now that the 6t is at least officially compatible for use on tmobile and I am almost certain that wifi calling will work where service is poor. I am on tmobile now and wifi calling works just fine, I made a 30 minute wifi call last night and worked perfectly.

So it's a software problem. Google will not release the software as part of an update included with every android release or they won't work with the manufacturer to update the partition responsible

raiderep said:
To answer your question, yes it appears to be a hardware problem. It is either that we don't have the cdma radios needed for sprint or el goog is playing favorites and only wants certain hardware to work for carrier switching between tmobile and sprint. I am not familiar with the us cellular required radios but it is likely the same el goog restriction in this case as well. My vote is that el goog is trying to get people to buy the officially supported devices for full functionality, they are becoming more and more just like all other carriers now, huh?
Either way I think I am switching back to fi now that the 6t is at least officially compatible for use on tmobile and I am almost certain that wifi calling will work where service is poor. I am on tmobile now and wifi calling works just fine, I made a 30 minute wifi call last night and worked perfectly.
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OnePlus 6T has full support for T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon, and US Cellular. For Verizon and US Cellular, it also supports every CDMA Band.
For Sprint, it has every LTE Band and is missing one CDMA Band. Sprint doesn't allow unapproved devices on their network, and activation is tied to the device MEID unlike Verizon. There's no hardware reason why Fi can't allow at least LTE on both T-Mobile and Sprint. Perhaps the issue is that Sprint restricts them in some manner from using Fi on devices not in Sprint's database. Also Band 71 (T-Mobile) oddly doesn't work on Google Fi, so maybe it would lend credence to there being weird LTE Band restrictions for Fi's carrier agreements.

Well I am going back to tmobile, fi doesn't allow wifi calling and tmobile does so for me it is a no brainer. I still think that there is more going on here than just hardware issues but that's just my opinion. I mean, why is wifi calling not allowed on fi(tmobile) but it is on tmobile?

Not sure if you already switched back or if you are open to trying another service again, but i have been using Mint Mobile for a while now and love it. My monthly payment comes out to $24/Month with 5GB of data and an additional $10/1GB or $20/3GB.

Maybe https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cheekydevs.fiswitch can help for OP users?

hunterulmes said:
Not sure if you already switched back or if you are open to trying another service again, but i have been using Mint Mobile for a while now and love it. My monthly payment comes out to $24/Month with 5GB of data and an additional $10/1GB or $20/3GB.
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Does wifi-calling work with Mint Mobile??
Eta: Checked website and wifi calling is included, and 20 buck sale right now for 3 months 8gb a month...not bad for a test drive! I'm back on fi so I can pause it while I give it a go :

raiderep said:
Does wifi-calling work with Mint Mobile??
Eta: Checked website and wifi calling is included, and 20 buck sale right now for 3 months 8gb a month...not bad for a test drive! I'm back on fi so I can pause it while I give it a go :
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Awesome dude! It is definitely worth it considering you save at least $40 from any other major carrier. Only thing it doesn't have is the visual voicemail but i never use it anyway so it doesnt bother me.
Hope it is as good for you as it has been for me.

hunterulmes said:
Awesome dude! It is definitely worth it considering you save at least $40 from any other major carrier. Only thing it doesn't have is the visual voicemail but i never use it anyway so it doesnt bother me.
Hope it is as good for you as it has been for me.
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Visual voicemail is working for me with pixel experience ROM on project fi which shouldn't work on OnePlus 6T if I remember correctly.
You try that ROM yet with mint mobile?
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