I've had this problem with AOSP ROMs on all my devices, the battery life is significantly lower then on the stock ROM.
Is there any ROM you could recommend? I only tried temasek and I'm definitely not going back to it, battery was decreasing very fast.
No.
However you will get a lot of replies saying try that, try this, but eventually you will realise my reply after quite a lot of time wasting, so I just tried to cut that. No one has time to waste, especially behind nonsense.
One thing, this is a question, it should go to Q&A section, not here.
As devilsdouble said: No
This should be in the Q&A forum, but while it lasts, I'll say the same thing.
CM and AOSP have many, many advantages over Samsung ROMs, but battery life always seems to take a hit.
Then you spend months tweaking kernals, undervolting, changing app permissions, etc. But it never hits the same as official/tweaked TW Roms.
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Due to the overwhelming amount of posts in many Rom threads, it is quite difficult even with the search option to find what you are looking for. As many of us who visit XDA on a daily basis realize, a large number of these posts are very repetitive. "Which kernel should I use for the best battery life?" "What Kernel will be the smoothest on my phone?" "Oh you have (Insert Kernel Here) Kernel, what kinda of battery life are you getting?" The questions in regards to battery life, kernels, and performance go on and on. I came up with an idea for a thread and after talking to a MOD about it decided to go ahead and get it started.
The Purpose of this Thread:
-Compile fellow EVO user's experiences with certain Rom and Kernel setup's in order to help all of us get the best performance and battery life with our EVO.
-To help cut down on the amount of repetitive posting about Kernels, Battery Life, and SetCpu in Rom threads. This is a forum and it is about makings posts, but many times people end up posting questions related to these things that have already been answered but may be hard to find.
-To give members a central thread for optimal performance based on other users experiences.
-To help other members find what Kernels, SetCPU settings, and other options will work best based upon their Hardware version.**I bring the hardware version up because it seems like certain things I.E. Kernels and certain settings do not play well with certain Hardware versions of the Evo.**
-To provide an Informational thread based on your experiences to help out everyone.
Please Note:
-This thread is NOT a place to go to war with others over which Rom is best or to bad mouth other Roms, everyone has their own preferences remember that.
-In order to keep this thread as clean and productive as possible, PLEASE REFRAIN FROM ASKING QUESTIONS HERE!
-If you have a question for an individual, PM them.
-If you have a question in regards to a Kernel, refer to the kernels thread.
-If you have a question in regards to SetCPU use the Q&A or your roms thread.
-If there is a basic question that often comes up on the Evo forums I will try to
provide links to the information.
-This thread is to be NON BIASED.
**My hopes would be that enough members post their personal stats and info here that on an OP I can list each rom, the hardware versions of the phone and what set ups seem to work the best with them. This info would be based on a general consensus based upon the information posted here.**
What to Post:
-Rom and Rom version that you are using. (I.E. Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS 4) PLEASE make the font for this RED so users can easily spot which rom you are on when looking through this thread.
-Current Software version on your phone. (I.E. 3.30.651.3)
-Hardware version of your phone. (0001,0002,0003 or 0004) Please make this RED also.
-This is found under: Settings>About Phone>Hardware Information.
-The Kernel that you are using, the full name. (I.E. netarchy-toastmod-4.2.1-cfs-bfq-havs-more-smartass-universal)
-SetCPU? If so, what kind of settings are you using?
-Any kind of battery tweak? (I.E. Colin pH method)
-How would you rate your usage, and what is you awake time? (I.E. Minimal, Moderate, Heavy)(Awake Time:Settings>Battery)
-On a day to day basis what do you use your phone for?
-What kind of battery life are you getting? (On full charge: I.E. 16 hours)
-The Pros/Cons of this setup. (Cons if there are any)
-Why you would recommend this set up to others? (Again, please do not use this to slander other roms)
If you choose to contribute to this thread, Thank you for reading through this and for your contribution. I think if we can make something of this thread we can all benefit a lot from it. If you have any suggestions on what I should add to this please feel free to post it with your info or PM me if your not posting. I will try to update as much as possible, and of course that will depend on the reply that I get.
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I would state the awake time instead of asking if they are a moderate/heavy...seems less opinionated even though someone with 5 hours awake time with idle cpu is not the same as 3 hours under heavy load.
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I would state the awake time instead of asking if they are a moderate/heavy...seems less opinionated even though someone with 5 hours awake time with idle cpu is not the same as 3 hours under heavy load.
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Thank you sir, I went ahead and just added it in with it. Then we get the idea from both ways. If you have anything else just let me know. I would appreciate it!
i think you should post what kind of battery you are using
is it the standard 1500 mAH battery or the other extended battery
so people won't get lost
This is a good place to start, but it's difficult to get a good idea because there are too many variables that affect battery life from user to user. In addition, my light usage could be your moderate. Then people run different programs which will affect identical setups. Just throwing these things out there if you wonder why you aren't getting the same battery life as someone with same setup.
I'll go first....
I actually think this is an awesome idea. I think the idea of "not every phone is created equally" is a little over-exaggerated with the evo. Maybe we can start finding some similarities.
Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS 4
3.30.651.3
0003
HTC Kernel #17. (I also tried the King's #11 (i think) and got horrible battery drain!)
Not using SetCPU
No Battery tweaks
Moderate usage. Not sure on awake time. I will edit this later today to add.
Mostly phone calls. A couple of texts and emails. Some games while I'm on the throne. The occasional web search.
I get maybe 12-14 hours of battery life.
PRO's:
-it's pretty looking
-a themed rosie launcher.
CON's:
-I got better battery life with Fresh 3.4.0.1 and stock kernel.
-Doesn't offer the original HTC #11 kernel like Fresh does. Anyone have a link to it?
I would recommend this setup to anyone that wants a good looking rom that has lots of customization options. I use it mostly because of the look of it. But, it is quick, scores well on quadrant, and gets decent battery life... It is not the best I have found... but it will get you through most of a day on moderate usage.
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Can someone tell me... does the battery life depend on how the kernel plays with the ROM? I could get about 20-24 hours of battery life on Fresh with kernel #11. Now that I'm on Myn's and I could find the #11 kernel again, would I get the same battery life?
Good point. One of my biggest goals is to help people who wish to flash a custom kernel find the right one that is friendly with the Rom and most importantly the hardware version. Imo a rather a kernel is going to work with a phone or not has to do a lot with the hardware.
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So is it just me or have you guys noticed significantly lower battery life ever since froyo came out a couple months back. I mean it's not terrible, but it's not nearly as good as pre-froyo.
I've tried numerous roms and kernels, did all the bullsht with my battery and what not, and although the results vary and some rom/kernel variations are better than others (The battery calibration never worked for me, i tried both versions and I am fully convinced that it was just used by HTC to get all the complainers off there back. People have supposedly had results from calibrating there batteries but according to the facts of how batteries work, there really isn't a need to calibrate...but thats beside my point lol, just a little rant.)
ANYWAYS, back to what I was saying... I remember when I was on DamageControls 2.1 roms and how freaking awesome my battery life and performance was, but the moment I upgraded to froyo it's just never been the same again....
Am I the only one experiencing this? It could very well be my mind playing tricks on me, but I highly doubt that...
I'm currently on Myns newest rom and I went a day with the stock HTC kernel, but that was pretty bad so I just now flashed Zyg's kernel...
What rom/kernel variations are working the best for you guys. And before you go on giving me sht about "our phones are different so one rom may be better on mine than yours." or whatever, I really don't care.
Just let me know what's been working best for you.
Have you tried SBC kernels?
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Nooo way man, my battery life pretty much doubled since froyo came out. I'm running MIUI and I can seriously go almost 2 days without charging my phone with a stock battery. Even when I was running Fresh I was getting awesome battery life.
I've tried one SBC kernel a couple weeks ago when i was using Calks rom and I didn't see too great of battery life on that either...
There's probably something that i'm missing, because I have heard of people getting really good battery life. I haven't really messed around with my EVO in a while... I'll try tweaking some things and see how that goes...
I love to play around with new ROMs and kernels and usually don't mind a few hiccups and occasional poor performance. But soon I will have a one week period where I need my phone to be as solid as possible. What's the best ROM/kernel for this?
I currently use CM7 as my daily and have tested CM9. CM7 is great except battery life is pretty bad, with both the CM7 and Samurai kernels. I lose about 1% of battery for every 90 secs I'm actively doing something - even on Wifi and with a strong 3g signal. A 15minute drive with GPS (and screen off) easily takes 10% off my battery. This is unacceptable for my upcoming event.
I would like a ROM/kernel combo that can go for a minimum of 12 hours with moderate use. No voice, but frequent texting, email, twitter checks, some photos, and calling up pdfs. Battery life and stability are the top concerns, but GPS is important as well. CM7 gives me the best GPS results I've ever had with my Epic, but like I said, the battery performance is awful.
Any ideas? Focusing on all the cutting edge stuff means I've lost touch with the latest improvements on the more basic, but more solid ROMs.
Thanks!
get a larger battery or pick up a spare oe battery as a backup.
this is one of those questions you just dont ask cause it all depends on how you use your phone and all that i know you say what you mostly use it for but it still doesnt help if you are looking for a stable rom as far as mtd goes they are all good and as far as kernels go they are all good but the kicker is just finding what works best for you feel free to play around with them flash one per day and figure out which one works best for you cause honestly we cant tell you cause what would extend our battery life might not work for you because you use your phone differently than we do but trust me all of our devs are gonna throw out something that doesnt work all the warnings are there and all the help and how to's for each rom and kernel are in their respective threads sorry i couldnt give you a better answer bud
happy flashing
Oh and I forgot to mention since you have been running cm7 make sure you don't flash a bml rom not sure if u were aware of that or not so only flash and MTD rom and kernel
CleanGB. No OC/UV, and buy an epic touch 1800mah battery. For me I get best responsiveness vs battery life if I run 100/800mhz with governer set to performance. You'd have to REALLY try to kill that battery in a day with this setup.
Edit: you use gps in the car without plugging it in? No wonder your battery commits suicide lol. If I use gps and stream music through bluetooth it still discharges on the charger.
There is no such thing. Even pure stock has errors on some people's phones. You need to try one or if it is that important than stock is your best bet. EVERY Phone is different. Read through some of the ROMs...95% of the people have no problems and 5% do. It is the nature of the beast. No one can tell which is best for YOUR phone. And if CM7 is giving you terrible battery life, there already is something wrong with your phone setup. You probably need to start from scratch and restore no apps or data and download apps fresh from the market.
I've always had good luck with CleanGB roms & kernals by toadlife.
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I've always had good luck with CleanGB roms & kernals by toadlife.
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But not everybody does. There is no best. I can easily say marcusantrom with shadow kernel is best on touchwiz and CM7 with the kernel it comes with is the best in general. I won't say this because different people have different phones and preferences... if you really want the best rom/kernel/theme, make it yourself.
In Soviet Epic forum, clockworkmod root you!
Exactly what the title says. I've been looking here and there for some ROMs that I would like to flash and I found quite a number of them to try out. However I want to hear from the experts who have been flashing custom ROMs all the time. What would you say would be the best ROM on battery life? I am currently running Hyperdrive RLS21 and I'll say it does decent on the battery life albeit the standby time can improve (I lose around 10% in a night if I leave it 100% uncharged).
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Exactly what the title says. I've been looking here and there for some ROMs that I would like to flash and I found quite a number of them to try out. However I want to hear from the experts who have been flashing custom ROMs all the time. What would you say would be the best ROM on battery life? I am currently running Hyperdrive RLS21 and I'll say it does decent on the battery life albeit the standby time can improve (I lose around 10% in a night if I leave it 100% uncharged).
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First off battery life is subjective and usually has very little to do with the ROM. It is the kernel and settings which usually have most affect on battery life amongst the same user. This is not something you can compare from user to user but must be compared by the same user under the same conditions.
Let me give you some examples..a heavy gamer will get vastly different battery life from a heavy phone/text user. A person in low signal areas that has many apps synching will get horrible battery life compared to someone who has very little apps or great signal. I think you get the idea.
Kernel settings such as governor/scheduler/OC/UC choices will vastly affect your battery life. You really either need to compare ROMs yourself, or find someone that has compared ROMs under the same situation and similar use as you to get any useful data. I see that you asked for opinions from those flashing many ROMs. Other factors can affect that too...were they all clean flashed? Were any adjustments made?
Hope this helps! And hope you find the perfect ROM for you! Happy Flashing!
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First off battery life is subjective and usually has very little to do with the ROM. It is the kernel and settings which usually have most affect on battery life amongst the same user. This is not something you can compare from user to user but must be compared by the same user under the same conditions.
Let me give you some examples..a heavy gamer will get vastly different battery life from a heavy phone/text user. A person in low signal areas that has many apps synching will get horrible battery life compared to someone who has very little apps or great signal. I think you get the idea.
Kernel settings such as governor/scheduler/OC/UC choices will vastly affect your battery life. You really either need to compare ROMs yourself, or find someone that has compared ROMs under the same situation and similar use as you to get any useful data. I see that you asked for opinions from those flashing many ROMs. Other factors can affect that too...were they all clean flashed? Were any adjustments made?
Hope this helps! And hope you find the perfect ROM for you! Happy Flashing!
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Problem is that I'm on a locked bootloader (ATT variant) so it's only natural that I should ask for a ROM that could give the best battery life since I can't flash any kernels
I'm no expert but I've been flashing ROMs for my S2, now my s4 for last 3 years. I've found recently that Tesla has the best battery life, 4% drain over 8 hrs at night. Best ever
Please post your battery life in stock marshmallow,stock nougut,RR,AICP and other roms.
So we can compare them.
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Please post your battery life in stock marshmallow,stock nougut,RR,AICP and other roms.
So we can compare them.
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There is really nothing one size fits all kind of thing. Try these different ROMs for yourself to see what works best for you. It's hard to see which has better battery life since different users will have different usage stats.
I have to agree... One person might get great battery on RR and terrible on AICP, the next person the opposite. The only to really tell which one gets the best battery in your situation is to try them.
Data is too scattered to determine which ROM provides the best battery life. You see people getting all day battery life with different kernels, tweaks, usage, etc
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Please post your battery life in stock marshmallow,stock nougut,RR,AICP and other roms.
So we can compare them.
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I'm not trying to bash your post but TBH, any comparison you make from others is practically useless. As mentioned, people have different experiences on custom ROMs. One specific ROM might have excellent battery life on one phone and have horrible battery life on another of the same model. But there is an even more important factor that makes comparing across ROMs just as useless... Everyone uses their phone differently. Not just with apps they install, but with the features of a ROM they they decide to enable or not.
On that note, if you are considering a custom ROM, the best way to determine if it is right for you is simply to try them. Make backups that way you can revert back to the one you decide is best.
I know that every user use their phone differently. I don't know what made you guys think i don't know that. But what i am trying to compare is not overall battery life but battery life based on individual usage. Like when some one use that rom for only calls and get a lot of stand by time how much battery it drains. from that i can know how much battery it drains when kept idle. Same goes for using wifi or using mobile data , watching YouTube or reading PDF. I want to know how much battery that rom uses on what usage.
Sorry for my bad English. I hope you guys can understand what i am trying to say.
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I know that every user use their phone differently. I don't know what made you guys think i don't know that. But what i am trying to compare is not overall battery life but battery life based on individual usage. Like when some one use that rom for only calls and get a lot of stand by time how much battery it drains. from that i can know how much battery it drains when kept idle. Same goes for using wifi or using mobile data , watching YouTube or reading PDF. I want to know how much battery that rom uses on what usage.
Sorry for my bad English. I hope you guys can understand what i am trying to say.
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I understand this. But I think it would be easier to try for yourself, because to get say, me to try say 4 different ROMs, same usage, and then report back to you would be more time consuming than you trying for yourself.
I know you know that every user is different but the same user trying different ROMs for you just doesn't make sense.
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I know that every user use their phone differently. I don't know what made you guys think i don't know that. But what i am trying to compare is not overall battery life but battery life based on individual usage. Like when some one use that rom for only calls and get a lot of stand by time how much battery it drains. from that i can know how much battery it drains when kept idle. Same goes for using wifi or using mobile data , watching YouTube or reading PDF. I want to know how much battery that rom uses on what usage.
Sorry for my bad English. I hope you guys can understand what i am trying to say.
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Referencing individual usage as you have, along with any specific ROM across devices, you are not going to get consistent results. I understand you are trying to consolidate this data on one post, but there are to many variables involved.
To highlight: I could run AICP on my XT1575 with a clean install and no extra apps installed and make only calls and I might get excellent battery life on standby. But another XT1575 owner can do the exact same setup, make the same number and times of calls and get horrible battery life. This pretty much goes for any custom ROM, especially those not based on stock. This does not even account for differences in MM vs N. This also does not account for an update to a ROM screwing up battery life and the next one may fix it (which is relatively common). I've even seen where someone gets great battery life up to a certain update and thereafter it sucks, but another can experience the opposite.
And once again, individual usage still matters as individuals will have different apps installed, which can take up varying amounts of battery depending on background processes and syncing. This affects standby time and SOT to some degree. Also do not forget that the chipset on this phone is prone to negative affects on battery depending on cell signal strength, so that is another kink in observing and comparing battery life across users.
Ultimately, the best way to determine what gives you the best battery life is too rest ROMs for yourself and your specific usages.
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I understand this. But I think it would be easier to try for yourself, because to get say, me to try say 4 different ROMs, same usage, and then report back to you would be more time consuming than you trying for yourself.
I know you know that every user is different but the same user trying different ROMs for you just doesn't make sense.
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I am not saying anyone to try different roms for me. I was just wanting them to post battery stat of the rom they use as their daily driver.
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I am not saying anyone to try different roms for me. I was just wanting them to post battery stat of the rom they use as their daily driver.
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Yes ok. So we should be on the same page about different users using their devices differently. So if user A posts about say ROM B, and user B posts about ROM A, you know you can't compare. I would post my stats with RR but you couldn't compare to someone posting AICP stats as we are different users. The only way to be even somewhat accurate would be to get the same user to try different ROMs. Which you can do. Honestly just try the different ROMs! I will say with my experience though DU has not had the greatest battery life.
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I am not saying anyone to try different roms for me. I was just wanting them to post battery stat of the rom they use as their daily driver.
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Yes ok. So we should be on the same page about different users using their devices differently. So if user A posts about say ROM B, and user B posts about ROM A, you know you can't compare. I would post my stats with RR but you couldn't compare to someone posting AICP stats as we are different users. The only way to be even somewhat accurate would be to get the same user to try different ROMs. Which you can do. Honestly just try the different ROMs! I will say with my experience though DU has not had the greatest battery life.
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Well said!
@yk1999 As stated above as well as in my post, you just can't compare experiences of users across multiple devices and ROMs as there are to many variables involved. We understand what you are asking and we are telling you that there is only one way for you to get the information you are looking for. The only way for you to figure out what will have the best battery life in YOUR situation (how a ROM operates on YOUR specific device, YOUR selection of apps, and YOUR specific usage scenarios) is to test the ROMs for yourself.
Maybe there should be an app saving battery stats for the current ROM (internal storage or personal cloud), and comparing these personal stats with previous stats made when you had another ROM installed.
Of course there are other variables that affect the battery stats (like the apps installed, or the apps you actually open in a battery cycle) but at least the app would be able to list and compare battery stats on the same device and user.
Ie, I imagine a list like:
- ROM R1. Kernel K1. X1 apps installed. Battery rate: BR1
- ROM R1. Kernel K2. X1 apps installed. Battery rate: BR2
- ROM R2. Kernel K1. X1 apps installed. Battery rate: BR3
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It could be able to group by Android version,...
I haven't found an app doing this. Do you know an app doing it? And, do you think this app would make any sense?