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http://briefmobile.com/guaranteed-android-updates-for-18-months
Google announced at I/O that a bunch of partners have agreed to update all devices that are capable to the latest Android version within 18 months! And also ICS is going to be released Q4 this year...
My thought is that Motorola has been waiting on ICS hopefully rather than GB, though either way we'll have ICS before the pseudo-apocalypse!
EDIT: Article has a typo, actual statement was that updates will be guaranteed for all new and capable devices for 18 months.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/05/android-momentum-mobile-and-more-at.html
18 months.. that's more than a year and a half.. lol by that time i'd have a phone that has the latest version :|. possibly an unlocked bootloader as well lol
We've at least been told by Moto that we'll get Gingerbread and an unlocked bootloader this year, and I believe that is still a reasonable claim
Yeah, 18 months to upgrade this thing to 2.3? If they would unlock the phone and release the code it would be done in a few days by the dev community.
KefkaticFanatic said:
http://briefmobile.com/guaranteed-android-updates-for-18-months
Google announced at I/O that a bunch of partners have agreed to update all devices that are capable to the latest Android version within 18 months! And also ICS is going to be released Q4 this year...
My thought is that Motorola has been waiting on ICS hopefully rather than GB, though either way we'll have ICS before the pseudo-apocalypse!
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The key here is "within 18 months"! I believe this offers nothing, as most of us will have moved on to new devices before we have had them for 18 months after release. Now, if they said within 6 months, then we would know that whenever we bought a new device the most we would have to wait for the latest update would be 6 months.
"Good news for Android users waiting for updates: this kind of long wait and anticipation game may finally be over. Google’s announced at I/O 2011 that a plethora of partners (seen above) will be giving the latest Android updates to all devices in the future within eighteen months. The only catch is that updates will be received only “if the device can handle it.”
Sounds like good news for developers worrying about fragmentation. But, users will also be able to reap the benefits as carriers and manufacturers are more forcefully pushed towards updates."
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We've at least been told by Moto that we'll get Gingerbread and an unlocked bootloader this year, and I believe that is still a reasonable claim
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not really..
The article is wrong and misquoted the announcement. If you watched the keynote you'd have seen what they really said.
"So today we’re announcing that a founding team of industry leaders, including many from the Open Handset Alliance, are working together to adopt guidelines for how quickly devices are updated after a new platform release, and also for how long they will continue to be updated. The founding partners are Verizon, HTC, Samsung, Sprint, Sony Ericsson, LG, T-Mobile, Vodafone, Motorola and AT&T, and we welcome others to join us. To start, we're jointly announcing that new devices from participating partners will receive the latest Android platform upgrades for 18 months after the device is first released, as long as the hardware allows...and that's just the beginning. Stay tuned for more details."
Updates provided for 18 months, not within 18 months.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/05/android-momentum-mobile-and-more-at.html
CaelanT said:
The key here is "within 18 months"! I believe this offers nothing, as most of us will have moved on to new devices before we have had them for 18 months after release. Now, if they said within 6 months, then we would know that whenever we bought a new device the most we would have to wait for the latest update would be 6 months.
"Good news for Android users waiting for updates: this kind of long wait and anticipation game may finally be over. Google’s announced at I/O 2011 that a plethora of partners (seen above) will be giving the latest Android updates to all devices in the future within eighteen months. The only catch is that updates will be received only “if the device can handle it.”
Sounds like good news for developers worrying about fragmentation. But, users will also be able to reap the benefits as carriers and manufacturers are more forcefully pushed towards updates."
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It's not updating to latest within 18 months...
Its updating to lastest version quickly.. FOR the first 18 months.. so you might get multi updatas in that 18 months.. but arnt promised anything after the phone has been out for 18 months... all in all pretty good news for us though... att and Motorola are partners with google on it.
I'll be happy when I finally get at least ONE "Official update" from Bell. (and more importantly a stock SBF to fall back on already!)
Hopefully Bell can figure out how to do that in 18 months...
shriva said:
It's not updating to latest within 18 months...
Its updating to lastest version quickly.. FOR the first 18 months.. so you might get multi updatas in that 18 months.. but arnt promised anything after the phone has been out for 18 months... all in all pretty good news for us though... att and Motorola are partners with google on it.
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It makes a lot of sense. 18 months is getting close to the life of a phone. So they keep you updated, then make you buy a new one when you can renew your contract.
I guess it works out well for both parties? We get updates frequently for most of the life of our phones, but they still get their upgrades.
Thanks bwshockley for clearing that up!
Heck, they announced. "Ice cream" for Q4 2011.. Atrix may even get that!
Can't wait till they let us know what timely/quickly means though.. but its going in the right direction.. google doing something at least to get them to update quicker.
It also say NEW devices will be supported, that would mean the Atrix would not actually fall under the new guidelines i.e. there would be no guarantee that it'll get Ice Cream Sandwich. Gingerbread is guaranteed only because they specifically stated it a while back, but when is completely up to Moto.
Yea I see. Silly misinterpretation. That's what I get for taking a bagel break away from the live stream!
However, I still believe that we'll get GB and perhaps even ICS by the end of this year. And if not, the bootloader will hopefully be unlocked so we won't have to worry about it.
Yeah I don't see them waiting for ICS to do a version upgrade, by then, a fair amount of people will have looked at other devices.
1/5 stars for misinformation. Please update op to say this is speculation.
bwshockley said:
The article is wrong and misquoted the announcement. If you watched the keynote you'd have seen what they really said.
"So today we’re announcing that a founding team of industry leaders, including many from the Open Handset Alliance, are working together to adopt guidelines for how quickly devices are updated after a new platform release, and also for how long they will continue to be updated. The founding partners are Verizon, HTC, Samsung, Sprint, Sony Ericsson, LG, T-Mobile, Vodafone, Motorola and AT&T, and we welcome others to join us. To start, we're jointly announcing that new devices from participating partners will receive the latest Android platform upgrades for 18 months after the device is first released, as long as the hardware allows...and that's just the beginning. Stay tuned for more details."
Updates provided for 18 months, not within 18 months.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/05/android-momentum-mobile-and-more-at.html
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I stand corrected! Muchos gracias!
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Someone ask this on the official support forums for the atrix.
bearsfan172 said:
It makes a lot of sense. 18 months is getting close to the life of a phone. So they keep you updated, then make you buy a new one when you can renew your contract.
I guess it works out well for both parties? We get updates frequently for most of the life of our phones, but they still get their upgrades.
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Actually upgrades work in our favor since they dont make crap on the phone. They only make money on the data service which is outrageously priced.
Rule of thumb.
Buy Google Flagship or htc to get all the upgrade love.
I hope moto dies.
What time will get Android 4.4.4 on Note 3 Sm-n9005??
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Thanks for the update. Then we can start porting Note 4 ROMs to Note 3!
This somehow doesn't seem very accurate. The Note 2 isn't supposed to be getting 4.4.4... (According to Samsung itself, which is bound by Google's 18 months contract.)
I thought samsung would skip 4.4.4 because of android l
ShadowLea said:
This somehow doesn't seem very accurate. The Note 2 isn't supposed to be getting 4.4.4... (According to Samsung itself, which is bound by Google's 18 months contract.)
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4.4.4 could bring more updates to the KNOX system, and since it was released 1 year ago, deployed on all devices, it would look bad for the company (Samsung) to drop support for KNOX on a legacy device they started supporting last year..
nicholaschum said:
4.4.4 could bring more updates to the KNOX system, and since it was released 1 year ago, deployed on all devices, it would look bad for the company (Samsung) to drop support for KNOX on a legacy device they started supporting last year..
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Except that the latest 4.4.2 updates already brought KNOX 2.0.
KNOX runs fine without needing the newest update every day. 4.4.4 is not mandatory for it to continue running.
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This somehow doesn't seem very accurate. The Note 2 isn't supposed to be getting 4.4.4... (According to Samsung itself, which is bound by Google's 18 months contract.)
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I think 18 months contract is for major updates like Jelly bean to kitkat, question is 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 is count as a major update?
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I ask sammobile and This list is fake
jdomadia said:
I think 18 months contract is for major updates like Jelly bean to kitkat, question is 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 is count as a major update?
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18 months applies to all updates. It's the length of the contract for Android on any device. (LG, Sony and HTC are bound by the same contracts) That's why the 'or two major upgrades' addendum exists.
There are a few rare exceptions, and any vital security updates still get rolled out to popular previous flagships, but that's it.
dajumper said:
I ask sammobile and This list is fake
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Samsung said the same thing when I asked them. Although I take that about as seriously as the guys who say it's real.
The 18 months rule means if we're not getting Android L until February 2014, we're not getting it at all?
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The 18 months rule means if we're not getting Android L until February 2014, we're not getting it at all?
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Not precisely. It means that if Samsung didn't get Android L February 2014, we're not getting it. There's about 4 months between Samsung getting the next Android version, and it actually rolling out to its users. Once Samsung has the firmware, they can roll it out whenever they like, even after the contract has expired. But only on devices included in that contract at the time of transfer. So if the Note 2 wasn't supported when Samsung got Android L from Google, it won't be getting Android L at all.
So even if Samsung gets Android L in January, our Note 3's are still included in the contract, even though we might not be seeing it before march (S6 release). (That's not a timetable by any means.)
The final L release is expected around late 2014 (End November/early December), so in theory we should be getting it. It depends on whether Samsung sees 4.4.4 as a major release or not, as that would mean we've had our share.
It is also fully possible that they're skipping 4.4.4 in exchange for L, as they've done with 4.2 for many devices, amongst which the Note 2. Considering 4.4.4 has been out for the Sprint edition for over a month, and we've not heard a peep, this is a strong possibility.
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Not precisely. It means that if Samsung didn't get Android L February 2014, we're not getting it. There's about 4 months between Samsung getting the next Android version, and it actually rolling out to its users. Once Samsung has the firmware, they can roll it out whenever they like, even after the contract has expired. But only on devices included in that contract at the time of transfer. So if the Note 2 wasn't supported when Samsung got Android L from Google, it won't be getting Android L at all.
So even if Samsung gets Android L in January, our Note 3's are still included in the contract, even though we might not be seeing it before march (S6 release). (That's not a timetable by any means.)
The final L release is expected around late 2014 (End November/early December), so in theory we should be getting it. It depends on whether Samsung sees 4.4.4 as a major release or not, as that would mean we've had our share.
It is also fully possible that they're skipping 4.4.4 in exchange for L, as they've done with 4.2 for many devices, amongst which the Note 2. Considering 4.4.4 has been out for the Sprint edition for over a month, and we've not heard a peep, this is a strong possibility.
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18 month rule has been sidetracked since a long time ago...
Nexus One: ~20 months to 2.3.6.
Nexus S: ~22 months to 4.1.2.
Galaxy Nexus: ~19 months to 4.3.
Nexus 7 (2012): ~23 months to 4.4.4. ~28 months to 5.0.
Nexus 4 & 10: ~19 months to 4.4.4. ~24 months to 5.0.
Living in PL have 4.4.2, and update to 4.4.4. ota appeared however it fails...? Towelroot issue?
robwiel said:
Living in PL have 4.4.2, and update to 4.4.4. ota appeared however it fails...? Towelroot issue?
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try restoring it on odin to the latest version available for your csc (back to full stock without root) and than try again.
nicholaschum said:
18 month rule has been sidetracked since a long time ago...
Nexus One: ~20 months to 2.3.6.
Nexus S: ~22 months to 4.1.2.
Galaxy Nexus: ~19 months to 4.3.
Nexus 7 (2012): ~23 months to 4.4.4. ~28 months to 5.0.
Nexus 4 & 10: ~19 months to 4.4.4. ~24 months to 5.0.
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Were you listening? It's the contract Google has with other companies.
The Nexus may be manufactured by a third party, but management of it is done by Google itself, thus negating any such contracts. That's the whole point of the Nexus line-up, they serve as Google's Beta devices.
ShadowLea said:
Were you listening? It's the contract Google has with other companies.
The Nexus may be manufactured by a third party, but management of it is done by Google itself, thus negating any such contracts. That's the whole point of the Nexus line-up, they serve as Google's Beta devices.
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Actually, if you were part of the Galaxy Nexus community back in the day, there was a version of Galaxy Nexus that was managed by Samsung and not Google. But they both still had support up to 4.3 and that was 1 month more than the 18 months.
http://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/how-to-get-android-ota-updates-from/
nicholaschum said:
Actually, if you were part of the Galaxy Nexus community back in the day, there was a version of Galaxy Nexus that was managed by Samsung and not Google. But they both still had support up to 4.3 and that was 1 month more than the 18 months.
http://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/how-to-get-android-ota-updates-from/
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As I've thoroughly explained in other posts on this subject, the contract applies not to the release date of the actual OTA, but the date the new Android version is handed over to Samsung. So if Samsung got the new Android version before the 18 months are over, regardless of the delay in release, the device would still get 4.3 because it fell within the timespan. The issues with 4.3 that Samsung experienced which led to the recall of it several times were not bound by the actual contract with Google, as the device at the time of transfer fell within the 18 month period.
I'll put it more simply: If Samsung get the green light from Google for the Note 3 before the end of February, we'll be getting L. (Provided 4.4.4 doesn't count as a major update). Even if it takes Samsung 6 months to roll it out due to unforseen issues, the original time of approval fell within the 18 month window.
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I'll put it more simply: If Samsung get the green light from Google for the Note 3 before the end of February, we'll be getting L. (Provided 4.4.4 doesn't count as a major update). Even if it takes Samsung 6 months to roll it out due to unforseen issues, the original time of approval fell within the 18 month window.
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Sure, that makes more sense.
However, in the OPO terms, as the CM11S is a build branched off from CM11, a version of release must already be completed then submitted to Google for approval. It takes around 1 month for approval. But that also shows that a submitted final version must be sent to Google to check for use of Google Apps in the ROM, root and Android etiquette.
So if this is the same rule that applies, that means a final version of TW Android L has to be submitted before the 18 month contract.
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Sure, that makes more sense.
However, in the OPO terms, as the CM11S is a build branched off from CM11, a version of release must already be completed then submitted to Google for approval. It takes around 1 month for approval. But that also shows that a submitted final version must be sent to Google to check for use of Google Apps in the ROM, root and Android etiquette.
So if this is the same rule that applies, that means a final version of TW Android L has to be submitted before the 18 month contract.
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There's a difference.
CM has to submit to Google's open product procedures before the Gapps are approved for it after completion, as CM is an independent release that has no legal contract or deal with Google. It's just a matter of 'If you want to use our apps, this is what you have to comply with." (crudely put). If they don't comply, that's that, Google won't allow the use of its apps. If they release it without approval, there won't be legal action, there just won't be any Google Apps.
The smartphone companies like Samsung, HTC, LG and the rest have legally binding business contracts with entirely different terms and agreements. Once Samsung has the Android version from Google, the firmware doesn't go back for approval. Mandatory requirements are included in the contract, and Gapps are included in the firmware from the start. If the contractual agreements are broken, there are fines and legal repercussions. There is also the matter of the fact that companies pay for the Android license.
So whilst any non-contractual goes Google > CM > Google > CM > Release, for the companies it goes Google > Samsung > (Provider > Samsung > Provider > Samsung >) Samsung OTA Release.
The last update for PLK-L01 is B380 with security patches dated back to 1 August 2016. (I received the OTA in September/October)
It's February 2017 now.
Can we do something to urge Honor to be clear about their support plan?
Because it would be a shame that this device had no support after only one year of his life. ( 1 year !!! )
I'm not even talking about EMUI 5 because at this point there's very little hope but I will be very disappointed if there won't be any further updates. For sure I'll think twice before buying/recommending Huawei phones.
Sorry but I had to vent a bit.
xinnn said:
The last update for PLK-L01 is B380 with security patches dated back to 1 August 2016. (I received the OTA in September/October)
It's February 2017 now.
Can we do something to urge Honor to be clear about their support plan?
Because it would be a shame that this device had no support after only one year of his life. ( 1 year !!! )
I'm not even talking about EMUI 5 because at this point there's very little hope but I will be very disappointed if there won't be any further updates. For sure I'll think twice before buying/recommending Huawei phones.
Sorry but I had to vent a bit.
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I totally agree with you. It would be especially a shame because Honor promised a 2 year Update guarantee.
I don't think we can do anything about this situation the only answer we would get would be a "We are always trying our best" and so on.
Actually....Seem official that won't be any Nougat release (due to hw compatibility).... at the same time it's possible a porting of emui 5 features (split screen and other stuff) to an update for the divices that can't support Android 7 as H7.
This should include also fresh security patch, but I don't think we'll see this famous update before the summer.
All this is what I could understand, in totally unofficial way from the leaking of Honor support...
So let's hope.... something will arrive, but naturally to upgrade H7 and all the devices still young but that can't support Nougat; it isn't exactly at the top of the list for Honor now...
Anyway yes, H7 isn't a lucky smartphone; it have good hw; it run smooth and fast, and could deserve more....
....After all, I came from a Nexus 5; so I was use to have always fresh sw; and to have it before any other ......To tell the truth I don't care so much anymore, untill my H7 is running well (as now), software upgrade won't be a crazy pb.
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Actually....Seem official that won't be any Nougat release (due to hw compatibility).... at the same time it's possible a porting of emui 5 features (split screen and other stuff) to an update for the divices that can't support Android 7 as H7.
This should include also fresh security patch, but I don't think we'll see this famous update before the summer.
All this is what I could understand, in totally unofficial way from the leaking of Honor support...
So let's hope.... something will arrive, but naturally to upgrade H7 and all the devices still young but that can't support Nougat; it isn't exactly at the top of the list for Honor now...
Anyway yes, H7 isn't a lucky smartphone; it have good hw; it run smooth and fast, and could deserve more....
....After all, I came from a Nexus 5; so I was use to have always fresh sw; and to have it before any other ......To tell the truth I don't care so much anymore, untill my H7 is running well (as now), software upgrade won't be a crazy pb.
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Well i'm not even mad for not getting Android 7 and i am okay with that. But it would be nice if we could get some features from EMUI 5 at least. Let's see what the future brings us.
not officially at least: support should be granted for another 6 months, but don't expect much more than a few fixes and a security patch.... my guess is: tiny update with January security patch in the next few weeks, then a final small farewell update in summer.
further software development is out of the question IMHO. huawei just don't seem to learn from their past mistakes...
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Well i'm not even mad for not getting Android 7 and i am okay with that. But it would be nice if we could get some features from EMUI 5 at least. Let's see what the future brings us.
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They will come...Just to don't make us too disappointed, I think.....And to reach the 2 years of support
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not officially at least: support should be granted for another 6 months, but don't expect much more than a few fixes and a security patch.... my guess is: tiny update with January security patch in the next few weeks, then a final small farewell update in summer.
further software development is out of the question IMHO. huawei just don't seem to learn from their past mistakes...
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I Agree, could be a way...
...In all this, i think that is more bad luck with the last Nougat API not supported than any laziness or few interess in the developing...
But I agree another time that if Huawei/Honor want to fight with the top brands, they have to start to better follow their devices, or at least to have a clear policy on releasing update; without confusion or heavy bugs over major release.
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not officially at least: support should be granted for another 6 months, but don't expect much more than a few fixes and a security patch.... my guess is: tiny update with January security patch in the next few weeks, then a final small farewell update in summer.
further software development is out of the question IMHO. huawei just don't seem to learn from their past mistakes...
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People buying Huawei are the ones not learning LOL
But the problem AFAIK is that Honor 7 soc won't support Vulcan, which is required to get a official nougat build from a manufactorer accepted by google.
I have UL00 model and I'm using stable B386 from 01/12/2017. Security patch from 01/01/2017.
I'm just saying this version might come to other models too.
If you want to get security updates, get an iPhone.
Android is a totally insecure system due to the way Google had signed the manufacturers up. It always gets security updates several months later, and after a year and half you can throw your phone away or remain with your insecure system.
android N is nothing diff to android 6
eddor1614 said:
I have UL00 model and I'm using stable B386 from 01/12/2017. Security patch from 01/01/2017.
I'm just saying this version might come to other models too.
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Which country did u buy your phone from?
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Which country did u buy your phone from?
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From China, it is UL00 C17 variant.
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I have UL00 model and I'm using stable B386 from 01/12/2017. Security patch from 01/01/2017.
I'm just saying this version might come to other models too.
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Good to know, if the China model had the upgrade usually the EU model will have it in acceptable timing.....
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If you want to get security updates, get an iPhone.
Android is a totally insecure system due to the way Google had signed the manufacturers up. It always gets security updates several months later, and after a year and half you can throw your phone away or remain with your insecure system.
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I beg to differ... samsung s4 (2013) is on jan 2017 security patch, and even the cheap xiaomi mi2 (2012) has the same january 2017 update... personal experience.
so you don't need to have an iphone to get a decently long lasting software support.
among the top producers, it's just huawei that keeps disappointing its customers. and the joke is on us, since we still fall for it...
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I beg to differ... samsung s4 (2013) is on jan 2017 security patch, and even the cheap xiaomi mi2 (2012) has the same january 2017 update... personal experience.
so you don't need to have an iphone to get a decently long lasting software support.
among the top producers, it's just huawei that keeps disappointing its customers. and the joke is on us, since we still fall for it...
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Thanks for the feedback, but you are just confirming the TOTAL mess android is.
My Samsung s3 had very bad support. It took months for security fixes to land after being released by Google.
And even worse for my Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 tablet. After 12 months no support anymore. And for security updates it was a 6 months wait at best.
My HTC phone was very bad also. 6 months at best for security updates and no support anymore after 18 months.
So, as you say sometimes you can get lucky with some devices BUT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW IN ADVANCE if your phone will be supported correctly or not.
I'm currently still on Android because I like the OS, but as it is such an unsecure unsupported platform I think I'll jump ship to iPhone next.
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Thanks for the feedback, but you are just confirming the TOTAL mess android is.
My Samsung s3 had very bad support. It took months for security fixes to land after being released by Google.
And even worse for my Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 tablet. After 12 months no support anymore. And for security updates it was a 6 months wait at best.
My HTC phone was very bad also. 6 months at best for security updates and no support anymore after 18 months.
So, as you say sometimes you can get lucky with some devices BUT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW IN ADVANCE if your phone will be supported correctly or not.
I'm currently still on Android because I like the OS, but as it is such an unsecure unsupported platform I think I'll jump ship to iPhone next.
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it sure is impossible to foresee for how long a smartphone will be supported, but huawei has given us plenty of reasons in the last years to at least doubt their policy.
p6, p7 were a real shame, especially being the latter a bit pricey for a huawei; p8, mateS and h7 are the latest victims. and these are just the ones I personally know about. only h6 has had a fairly good support, especially for the price.
now I'm not saying samsung is perfect, they are far from it... (and I don't want to take into account tablets because it's true, android pretty much sucks when it comes to tablets and updates... :/ ) but since you came up with the s3 model, well that was a very hardware limited model... one of the last pre-JB models, with 1gb of ram only... especially with KK all the 1gb models became obsolete... but if you take the lg g1 that was commercialised only 4-5 months later with 2gb, it lived long enough to be updated from ICS to JB and finally to KK.
LG G2-G3-G4 are all receiving small updates from time to time, even if they are mainly only security fixes, but honestly it's the same thing happening with iphones, old models don't get the new features, just small fixes.
same with S4-S5-S6; not sure about M7, but I can guarantee for M8 and M9. Xiaomi still updates a lot of models from 2012-2013.
final words: among the big ballers, there's just one brand that keeps fooling its customers, and that's huawei/honor.
h7/p8/mateS are all 2015 devices... 2015... and h7's support has been dead for 7 months already... it's a shame!
Honor 7 will never updated to android 7.0, mb will coming some minor updates from vendors, mb..Last hope is only developers) imho
yes, they have abandoned us. From now never buy honor product.
xinnn said:
The last update for PLK-L01 is B380 with security patches dated back to 1 August 2016. (I received the OTA in September/October)
It's February 2017 now.
Can we do something to urge Honor to be clear about their support plan?
Because it would be a shame that this device had no support after only one year of his life. ( 1 year !!! )
I'm not even talking about EMUI 5 because at this point there's very little hope but I will be very disappointed if there won't be any further updates. For sure I'll think twice before buying/recommending Huawei phones.
Sorry but I had to vent a bit.
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Honor/Huawei
I had HTC phones in the past, then LG G2 and then changed to H7. I was very satisfied with it, because of smooth running, but when they announced that it wont get new update to nougat I was very dissappointed. Because it was clear then that there will be no updates, at least not any big updates. Its not old phone with good HW. And because of that I decided for iphone. No complaint till now, I have it for 6 months.
Answer AFAIK is nope, since Huawei/Honor only deliver one major update, and they did it "recently" (2016-09 according to their site) on Western Europe (PLK-L01) (probably the last wave who recieved it) with Android Marshmallow. But, the 5 and 6X recieved it.
Now that most of us have received the Oreo update I'm beginning to wonder whether will we receive future android updates, especially when we can witness the company's attitude towards their former flagship (Honor 8). On the other hand, Oreo included project treble support which supposedly should make updates easier to create and implement.
I've heard that they had promised 2 year update support for their devices, so theoretically it would include the Android 9. Taking into account the 6 month delay after Google will have released it.
What do you guys think about our devices future?
Kuba565 said:
Now that most of us have received the Oreo update I'm beginning to wonder whether will we receive future android updates, especially when we can witness the company's attitude towards their former flagship (Honor 8). On the other hand, Oreo included project treble support which supposedly should make updates easier to create and implement.
I've heard that they had promised 2 year update support for their devices, so theoretically it would include the Android 9. Taking into account the 6 month delay after Google will have released it.
What do you guys think about our devices future?
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yes, it should have Android 9 in future. but who knows...
Kuba565 said:
Now that most of us have received the Oreo update I'm beginning to wonder whether will we receive future android updates, especially when we can witness the company's attitude towards their former flagship (Honor 8). On the other hand, Oreo included project treble support which supposedly should make updates easier to create and implement.
I've heard that they had promised 2 year update support for their devices, so theoretically it would include the Android 9. Taking into account the 6 month delay after Google will have released it.
What do you guys think about our devices future?
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No update yet still...Maybe add 3-4 months additional, apart from the 6 months....
Kuba565 said:
Now that most of us have received the Oreo update I'm beginning to wonder whether will we receive future android updates, especially when we can witness the company's attitude towards their former flagship (Honor 8). On the other hand, Oreo included project treble support which supposedly should make updates easier to create and implement.
I've heard that they had promised 2 year update support for their devices, so theoretically it would include the Android 9. Taking into account the 6 month delay after Google will have released it.
What do you guys think about our devices future?
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Most probably it will receive the Android P update but by the time, it would get that update, Android Q would have released.
I know Nexus 6P won't receive Android P but I was wondering: will this mean a complete stop to security updates as soon as P is released or there's still some time with security updates guaranteed by Google?
Looks like the updates for the Nexus 6P will end with either the October or November monthly security updates. https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/4457705?hl=en#nexus_devices
Are the Lineage builds available reasonably updated as far as security patches are concerned? Or would I be better off buying a new phone (something I'd avoid if possible, 6P is still doing all I bought it for)?