What time will get Android 4.4.4 on Note 3 Sm-n9005??
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
technologybaron said:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the update. Then we can start porting Note 4 ROMs to Note 3!
This somehow doesn't seem very accurate. The Note 2 isn't supposed to be getting 4.4.4... (According to Samsung itself, which is bound by Google's 18 months contract.)
I thought samsung would skip 4.4.4 because of android l
ShadowLea said:
This somehow doesn't seem very accurate. The Note 2 isn't supposed to be getting 4.4.4... (According to Samsung itself, which is bound by Google's 18 months contract.)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
4.4.4 could bring more updates to the KNOX system, and since it was released 1 year ago, deployed on all devices, it would look bad for the company (Samsung) to drop support for KNOX on a legacy device they started supporting last year..
nicholaschum said:
4.4.4 could bring more updates to the KNOX system, and since it was released 1 year ago, deployed on all devices, it would look bad for the company (Samsung) to drop support for KNOX on a legacy device they started supporting last year..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Except that the latest 4.4.2 updates already brought KNOX 2.0.
KNOX runs fine without needing the newest update every day. 4.4.4 is not mandatory for it to continue running.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk 2
ShadowLea said:
This somehow doesn't seem very accurate. The Note 2 isn't supposed to be getting 4.4.4... (According to Samsung itself, which is bound by Google's 18 months contract.)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think 18 months contract is for major updates like Jelly bean to kitkat, question is 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 is count as a major update?
technologybaron said:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I ask sammobile and This list is fake
jdomadia said:
I think 18 months contract is for major updates like Jelly bean to kitkat, question is 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 is count as a major update?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
18 months applies to all updates. It's the length of the contract for Android on any device. (LG, Sony and HTC are bound by the same contracts) That's why the 'or two major upgrades' addendum exists.
There are a few rare exceptions, and any vital security updates still get rolled out to popular previous flagships, but that's it.
dajumper said:
I ask sammobile and This list is fake
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Samsung said the same thing when I asked them. Although I take that about as seriously as the guys who say it's real.
The 18 months rule means if we're not getting Android L until February 2014, we're not getting it at all?
mircea89fzr said:
The 18 months rule means if we're not getting Android L until February 2014, we're not getting it at all?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not precisely. It means that if Samsung didn't get Android L February 2014, we're not getting it. There's about 4 months between Samsung getting the next Android version, and it actually rolling out to its users. Once Samsung has the firmware, they can roll it out whenever they like, even after the contract has expired. But only on devices included in that contract at the time of transfer. So if the Note 2 wasn't supported when Samsung got Android L from Google, it won't be getting Android L at all.
So even if Samsung gets Android L in January, our Note 3's are still included in the contract, even though we might not be seeing it before march (S6 release). (That's not a timetable by any means.)
The final L release is expected around late 2014 (End November/early December), so in theory we should be getting it. It depends on whether Samsung sees 4.4.4 as a major release or not, as that would mean we've had our share.
It is also fully possible that they're skipping 4.4.4 in exchange for L, as they've done with 4.2 for many devices, amongst which the Note 2. Considering 4.4.4 has been out for the Sprint edition for over a month, and we've not heard a peep, this is a strong possibility.
ShadowLea said:
Not precisely. It means that if Samsung didn't get Android L February 2014, we're not getting it. There's about 4 months between Samsung getting the next Android version, and it actually rolling out to its users. Once Samsung has the firmware, they can roll it out whenever they like, even after the contract has expired. But only on devices included in that contract at the time of transfer. So if the Note 2 wasn't supported when Samsung got Android L from Google, it won't be getting Android L at all.
So even if Samsung gets Android L in January, our Note 3's are still included in the contract, even though we might not be seeing it before march (S6 release). (That's not a timetable by any means.)
The final L release is expected around late 2014 (End November/early December), so in theory we should be getting it. It depends on whether Samsung sees 4.4.4 as a major release or not, as that would mean we've had our share.
It is also fully possible that they're skipping 4.4.4 in exchange for L, as they've done with 4.2 for many devices, amongst which the Note 2. Considering 4.4.4 has been out for the Sprint edition for over a month, and we've not heard a peep, this is a strong possibility.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
18 month rule has been sidetracked since a long time ago...
Nexus One: ~20 months to 2.3.6.
Nexus S: ~22 months to 4.1.2.
Galaxy Nexus: ~19 months to 4.3.
Nexus 7 (2012): ~23 months to 4.4.4. ~28 months to 5.0.
Nexus 4 & 10: ~19 months to 4.4.4. ~24 months to 5.0.
Living in PL have 4.4.2, and update to 4.4.4. ota appeared however it fails...? Towelroot issue?
robwiel said:
Living in PL have 4.4.2, and update to 4.4.4. ota appeared however it fails...? Towelroot issue?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
try restoring it on odin to the latest version available for your csc (back to full stock without root) and than try again.
nicholaschum said:
18 month rule has been sidetracked since a long time ago...
Nexus One: ~20 months to 2.3.6.
Nexus S: ~22 months to 4.1.2.
Galaxy Nexus: ~19 months to 4.3.
Nexus 7 (2012): ~23 months to 4.4.4. ~28 months to 5.0.
Nexus 4 & 10: ~19 months to 4.4.4. ~24 months to 5.0.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Were you listening? It's the contract Google has with other companies.
The Nexus may be manufactured by a third party, but management of it is done by Google itself, thus negating any such contracts. That's the whole point of the Nexus line-up, they serve as Google's Beta devices.
ShadowLea said:
Were you listening? It's the contract Google has with other companies.
The Nexus may be manufactured by a third party, but management of it is done by Google itself, thus negating any such contracts. That's the whole point of the Nexus line-up, they serve as Google's Beta devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually, if you were part of the Galaxy Nexus community back in the day, there was a version of Galaxy Nexus that was managed by Samsung and not Google. But they both still had support up to 4.3 and that was 1 month more than the 18 months.
http://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/how-to-get-android-ota-updates-from/
nicholaschum said:
Actually, if you were part of the Galaxy Nexus community back in the day, there was a version of Galaxy Nexus that was managed by Samsung and not Google. But they both still had support up to 4.3 and that was 1 month more than the 18 months.
http://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/how-to-get-android-ota-updates-from/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As I've thoroughly explained in other posts on this subject, the contract applies not to the release date of the actual OTA, but the date the new Android version is handed over to Samsung. So if Samsung got the new Android version before the 18 months are over, regardless of the delay in release, the device would still get 4.3 because it fell within the timespan. The issues with 4.3 that Samsung experienced which led to the recall of it several times were not bound by the actual contract with Google, as the device at the time of transfer fell within the 18 month period.
I'll put it more simply: If Samsung get the green light from Google for the Note 3 before the end of February, we'll be getting L. (Provided 4.4.4 doesn't count as a major update). Even if it takes Samsung 6 months to roll it out due to unforseen issues, the original time of approval fell within the 18 month window.
ShadowLea said:
I'll put it more simply: If Samsung get the green light from Google for the Note 3 before the end of February, we'll be getting L. (Provided 4.4.4 doesn't count as a major update). Even if it takes Samsung 6 months to roll it out due to unforseen issues, the original time of approval fell within the 18 month window.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sure, that makes more sense.
However, in the OPO terms, as the CM11S is a build branched off from CM11, a version of release must already be completed then submitted to Google for approval. It takes around 1 month for approval. But that also shows that a submitted final version must be sent to Google to check for use of Google Apps in the ROM, root and Android etiquette.
So if this is the same rule that applies, that means a final version of TW Android L has to be submitted before the 18 month contract.
nicholaschum said:
Sure, that makes more sense.
However, in the OPO terms, as the CM11S is a build branched off from CM11, a version of release must already be completed then submitted to Google for approval. It takes around 1 month for approval. But that also shows that a submitted final version must be sent to Google to check for use of Google Apps in the ROM, root and Android etiquette.
So if this is the same rule that applies, that means a final version of TW Android L has to be submitted before the 18 month contract.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There's a difference.
CM has to submit to Google's open product procedures before the Gapps are approved for it after completion, as CM is an independent release that has no legal contract or deal with Google. It's just a matter of 'If you want to use our apps, this is what you have to comply with." (crudely put). If they don't comply, that's that, Google won't allow the use of its apps. If they release it without approval, there won't be legal action, there just won't be any Google Apps.
The smartphone companies like Samsung, HTC, LG and the rest have legally binding business contracts with entirely different terms and agreements. Once Samsung has the Android version from Google, the firmware doesn't go back for approval. Mandatory requirements are included in the contract, and Gapps are included in the firmware from the start. If the contractual agreements are broken, there are fines and legal repercussions. There is also the matter of the fact that companies pay for the Android license.
So whilst any non-contractual goes Google > CM > Google > CM > Release, for the companies it goes Google > Samsung > (Provider > Samsung > Provider > Samsung >) Samsung OTA Release.
Related
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
We're here live at Google I/O, and the folks from Mountain View have just shared something rather sweet -- a coalition of manufacturers and carriers committed to making sure their Android devices receive the very latest updates. All four major US carriers (and Vodafone) as well as HTC, Samsung, Sony Ericsson, LG and Motorola are on board, and all will guarantee you timely upgrades to the latest version of Android for eighteen months after release, provided the hardware's capable. Now that's change we can believe in.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Source: Engadget.com
I believe it's too little too late for our beloved X10's
could be a little too late but seeing how quickly manufacturers tend to do upgrades and considering the fact that the 1 and a half year old X10 IS getting Gingerbread... doesn't seem that bad, could be worse (aka Motodesk...) and, either the costumers feedback or the really awesome work devs do over here, it's nice seeing Sony Ericsson coming to an agreement of having the latest Android version on the devices
Haha. That is awesome. 18 months. Right about the time your 2 year contract is up in most places where there is carrier subsidy. Gives you about 6 months to think about what your next phone will be...otherwise you'll be stuck on an "old" OS version after that.
Still, it is pretty cool that they have an update policy in place now. All things considered, 18 months is actually decent; there could be lots of hardware improvements in addition to the OS improvements in that time, unless phone technology plateaus like computers did a while back before picking up again. But it would be hilarious if the phone companies released an update the day after the 18 months are up...
i belive these will go hand in hand with the new arc play neo and newer xperia minis!
x10 wont recieve any futher updates above 2.3.3
its to late to our x10 , we must trust in our xda dev
Note that this is a policy for this year's phones and beyond, and does not apply to our X10s. Though the fact that we are getting the GB update is awesome.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
18 months is hardly decent in the mobile business... especially in regards to Android.
18 months ago brings us back to the launch of Android Eclair. With this policy, SE would have been totally fine letting us run Android 1.6 until April 26 2011.
Terul said:
18 months is hardly decent in the mobile business... especially in regards to Android.
18 months ago brings us back to the launch of Android Eclair. With this policy, SE would have been totally fine letting us run Android 1.6 until April 26 2011.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What??
Did you read it? It is saying 18 months of getting updates as they roll out from google, meaning we would already be on gingerbread.....
18 months of guaranteed timely updates is awesome, and unparalleled so far in the world of mobile smartphones
Maybe I am confused, but I believe Gingerbread was released in December 2010. 18 months from that takes us to June 2012.
If I'm wrong please let me know.
What a huge joke. 18 months IF the hardware is capable? So what? 1 update and for some stupid reason the hardware cannot handle the next update.
Nothing will change except for later updates because now they have to provide an update within 18 months not even close to the stock release date like some manufacturers do already.
Sent from my X10i using Tapatalk
Terul said:
Maybe I am confused, but I believe Gingerbread was released in December 2010. 18 months from that takes us to June 2012.
If I'm wrong please let me know.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are not understanding what this means....
It isn't saying 18 months between updates, it is saying up until 18 months after the phone is put out you will get every update as it is released, so no waiting around for companies to release their own "custom" versions and getting left behind. Meaning we would have gotten gingerbread immediately.
Just read it over a couple times and saw where I mis-read what it said. I was assuming 18 months after release of the OS not 18 months of the release for the device.
Cheers
Willey1986 said:
What a huge joke. 18 months IF the hardware is capable? So what? 1 update and for some stupid reason the hardware cannot handle the next update.
Nothing will change except for later updates because now they have to provide an update within 18 months not even close to the stock release date like some manufacturers do already.
Sent from my X10i using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well they can't release tablet software on a smartphone that isn't the same resolution, etc.....
I think that is more so what they mean.
Also, some phones released have been released with very outdated specs (i.e.- all of SE's new lineup) so if they release a dual core specific version of android, that would be sony's fault, not googles.
This sounds like a positive move to me.
To bad they couldn't implement this sooner... they could have avoided att eol-ing this device with not one update.
Sent from my X10i TripNMiUI using XDA App
I guess that the las update for ours X10 will be the ice cream sandwich OS, it's a new universal OS designed for all android devices..
Horayken said:
I guess that the las update for ours X10 will be the ice cream sandwich OS, it's a new universal OS designed for all android devices..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, the last would be Gingerbread.
Since the X10 would not follow this policy (think this policy only applies to new phones).
compumasta said:
To bad they couldn't implement this sooner... they could have avoided att eol-ing this device with not one update.
Sent from my X10i TripNMiUI using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1000000
At&t is already losing my business. Too little way too late. Add that to billing issues and abhorrent home internet and I'll never go back.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
Now it's just up to handset developers to stay awake & aware.
If they screw around Google will drop them like flies.
This really sound better to me. My next phone will also be Android so at least I will benefit from it then.
Android 4.3 upgrade 'in the early fall,' says carrier
A few days back we caught wind that the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 might be jumping straight from Android 4.1 to (the still unannounced) version 4.3 in some countries. And today it seems at least one other phone might be doing the same. Android Central forum member NKYRacing got in touch with Cincinnati Bell to ask about the just-released 4.2.2 update for his phone, only to be told by the carrier that its HTC One would instead get an update straight to Android 4.3 —
"We were just informed by HTC they would skip 4.2.2 and go straight to 4.3 in the early Fall."
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's unclear whether any other HTC One variants might also leapfrog 4.2, although we should note that the current 4.2.2 update is already rolling out in Europe and Asia. Hopefully we'll learn more once Android 4.3 is officially announced — and it's looking like that's going to happen sooner rather than later.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I'm finding this hard to believe as the 4.2 update has already been released.
Timmyfoxeh said:
I'm finding this hard to believe as the 4.2 update has already been released.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lmao this
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
Most of HTC ONE are already running on 4.2.2.
Batskoning said:
Android 4.3 upgrade 'in the early fall,' says carrier
A few days back we caught wind that the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 might be jumping straight from Android 4.1 to (the still unannounced) version 4.3 in some countries. And today it seems at least one other phone might be doing the same. Android Central forum member NKYRacing got in touch with Cincinnati Bell to ask about the just-released 4.2.2 update for his phone, only to be told by the carrier that its HTC One would instead get an update straight to Android 4.3 —
It's unclear whether any other HTC One variants might also leapfrog 4.2, although we should note that the current 4.2.2 update is already rolling out in Europe and Asia. Hopefully we'll learn more once Android 4.3 is officially announced — and it's looking like that's going to happen sooner rather than later.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ithink this is weird to 4.2.2 is already released.
Ik denk dat dit raar is omdat 4.2.2 al uitkomen is.
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium
It might be true if they know it's coming out, why push 4.2.2 out if they know 4.3 is on it's way. But my heart is saying yes but my mind is saying no logic normally wins but I'd like to be proven wrong
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
Batskoning said:
Android 4.3 upgrade 'in the early fall,' says carrier
A few days back we caught wind that the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 might be jumping straight from Android 4.1 to (the still unannounced) version 4.3 in some countries. And today it seems at least one other phone might be doing the same. Android Central forum member NKYRacing got in touch with Cincinnati Bell to ask about the just-released 4.2.2 update for his phone, only to be told by the carrier that its HTC One would instead get an update straight to Android 4.3 —
It's unclear whether any other HTC One variants might also leapfrog 4.2, although we should note that the current 4.2.2 update is already rolling out in Europe and Asia. Hopefully we'll learn more once Android 4.3 is officially announced — and it's looking like that's going to happen sooner rather than later.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yo dude....answer your phone next time!
The Project said:
Yo dude....answer your phone next time!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dude!! I just copied everything from an other side.. Inc this picture
They took so long to get 4.2.2 out to the US but it's essentially ready now (given that it has been pushed to the international phones already). I'd be really surprised if they completely skip 4.2.2 in the US given the level of demand for it and how little work it would take at this point to get it out.
Haha I don't see how they can skip 4.2 when it's already out...
Doubt it seeing how HTC can't even get 4.2 out in a timely matter. You'll get 4.2 then 4.3 maybe next year at the rate it is taking for 4.2 to release.
Batskoning said:
Android 4.3 upgrade 'in the early fall,' says carrier
A few days back we caught wind that the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 might be jumping straight from Android 4.1 to (the still unannounced) version 4.3 in some countries. And today it seems at least one other phone might be doing the same. Android Central forum member NKYRacing got in touch with Cincinnati Bell to ask about the just-released 4.2.2 update for his phone, only to be told by the carrier that its HTC One would instead get an update straight to Android 4.3 —
It's unclear whether any other HTC One variants might also leapfrog 4.2, although we should note that the current 4.2.2 update is already rolling out in Europe and Asia. Hopefully we'll learn more once Android 4.3 is officially announced — and it's looking like that's going to happen sooner rather than later.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What will be the htc one x?
Well it's August 9th and in Canada no 4.2 update yet....so 4.3? I hope but really doubt it.
krouri said:
Well it's August 9th and in Canada no 4.2 update yet....so 4.3? I hope but really doubt it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm kinda dissapointed about no Canadian 4.2.2 but there's not much we could do. I'd be happy going straight to 4.3
*Quality Not Quantity*
---------- Post added at 12:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:30 PM ----------
I actually just had a chat with HTC support and they said Canada WILL be getting the 4.2.2 update. No eta was given for known issues. But the lady told me to check frequently so I hope it's coming soon.
*Quality Not Quantity*
Word has it that Verizon is paying the broke HTC to not release the update to North American markets yet. Not until Verizon gets the HTC one. Sounds stupid, but for the uninformed enthusiast, this could mean a source of frustration towards the current carrier (Tmo aTT sprint) and an incentive to switch to Verizon because it obviously is better at testing and approving updates than other carriers.
Again, just a rumor out of (almost) thin air.
sauprankul said:
Word has it that Verizon is paying the broke HTC to not release the update to North American markets yet. Not until Verizon gets the HTC one. Sounds stupid, but for the uninformed enthusiast, this could mean a source of frustration towards the current carrier (Tmo aTT sprint) and an incentive to switch to Verizon because it obviously is better at testing and approving updates than other carriers.
Again, just a rumor out of (almost) thin air.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
While that may very loosely make sense in the U.S. why should that affect Canadians?
Most Americans would not know who Telus, Rogers or Bell is. It is not like Canadians would say "geez I'm going to switch to Verizon because they have a newer OS for the HTC One". Canada is a separate country from the U.S and should be treated as such. Hell, Google has either forgotten about us with Movies and TV and Google Music......or the CRTC is a pain in the a**. How is that related to your Verizon rumour? About as much as American carrier politics has to do with us.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4
Is there any indication that HTC has even pushed 4.2.2 to the carriers for their "approvals"?
And when are the Dev Editions supposed to get updates? If 4.2.2. is ready, can't HTC just push directly to dev editions?
jmitr said:
While that may very loosely make sense in the U.S. why should that affect Canadians?
Most Americans would not know who Telus, Rogers or Bell is. It is not like Canadians would say "geez I'm going to switch to Verizon because they have a newer OS for the HTC One". Canada is a separate country from the U.S and should be treated as such. Hell, Google has either forgotten about us with Movies and TV and Google Music......or the CRTC is a pain in the a**. How is that related to your Verizon rumour? About as much as American carrier politics has to do with us.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would believe that Canada is a separate country but this talk of Verizon entering Canada makes you wonder why we haven't received the update. I also think the CRTC is a pain in the ass too. I want my update too!
Sent from my GT-P3113 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
Good job HTC... thank god there is the convert to Google edition thread.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
mxrider108 said:
They took so long to get 4.2.2 out to the US but it's essentially ready now (given that it has been pushed to the international phones already). I'd be really surprised if they completely skip 4.2.2 in the US given the level of demand for it and how little work it would take at this point to get it out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i have a hunch that once the verizon variant would be released, the US versions of the HTC would (FINALLY GOD DAMNIT) get the 4.2.2 update.. what was the point of buying an unlocked ver if i get the updates last?
I have been using my PRO 12.2 for a couple of months and I am quite happy. Coming from a Google Nexus background (phone and 7" tablet) one of my main concerns with purchasing a Samsung product was it's poor history of providing software updates. I have owned Samsung tablets in the past and always felt stranded by the lack of updated versions of Android.
It will be interesting to see how fast it will take them to push out Android 4.4.3 OTA. 4.4.3 is a minor update so one would think that it would be fairly quick. I really hope Samsung passes the test. Let's see how serious they really are.
One of the major Samsung`s disadvantages is the poor support and updates for their whole products starting from smart phones to tablets.
For example Galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition was released in October 2014 with Jelly Bean 4.2 and just weeks ago Samsung started to roll out 4.3 for that great tablet. While they have released the Note Pro 12.2 with the kitkat 4.3 on January 2014...
"If you wanna the recent updates and software go and get their new product or you have to wait for a long time till you get the updates"
I think this is Samsung`s Policy.
skyhigh73 said:
One of the major Samsung`s disadvantages is the poor support and updates for their whole products starting from smart phones to tablets.
For example Galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition was released in October 2014 with Jelly Bean 4.2 and just weeks ago Samsung started to roll out 4.3 for that great tablet. While they have released the Note Pro 12.2 with the kitkat 4.3 on January 2014...
"If you wanna the recent updates and software go and get their new product or you have to wait for a long time till you get the updates"
I think this is Samsung`s Policy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
... and that concerns me.
Please I am a new member here would you please show me how to download akp
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Free mobile app
Samsung does often appear to be neglecting devices when it comes to updates. Fact of the matter is, 99% of the time the cause is a significant problem in the software adaptation.
The Note 3 was the very first non-nexus device to get 4.4.2, so it's not always the case.
You can't measure the release by Nexus standards. The Nexus-release is a glorified beta-test.
ShadowLea said:
Samsung does often appear to be neglecting devices when it comes to updates. Fact of the matter is, 99% of the time the cause is a significant problem in the software adaptation.
The Note 3 was the very first non-nexus device to get 4.4.2, so it's not always the case.
You can't measure the release by Nexus standards. The Nexus-release is a glorified beta-test.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don`t think so...
Simply there are 2 devices with almost the same hardware specs (Note 10.1 and Note Pro) the first one (10.1) has recently started to get the 4.4.2 update while the Note Pro was released with the Kitkat 4.4.2 on January 2014.
Another example, the upcoming tablets 10.5 S/Note 4/ Tab 4/...etc will be released with the recent updates 4.4.3 which is still not available for any other Tab/Note/Smart Phone...
I think it is not the matter of software adaptation but the priority goes for the upcoming products not those already released....
ShadowLea said:
Samsung does often appear to be neglecting devices when it comes to updates. Fact of the matter is, 99% of the time the cause is a significant problem in the software adaptation.
The Note 3 was the very first non-nexus device to get 4.4.2, so it's not always the case.
You can't measure the release by Nexus standards. The Nexus-release is a glorified beta-test.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OEMs can access Google's internal Android's sources before they're open-sourced. Nexus isn't a benchmark - it's a public release of already finished firmware, and patching up the final issues, OEM's updates should follow within one-two months, not 6+ months or more. Since Note 3 is still one of their top phablets with no successors, they had to update it quickly enough to make people stay on their devices - if you'd spend 650 pounds on a device and then wait 6 months (if you're lucky) to get an update, you'd probably be pissed off (and rightfully so). They abandon their low-end devices or older flagships quite quickly.
For example, Galaxy S2 (which I own) was updated to 4.1, but not any further, despite being perfectly capable of doing so. According to Samsung, it's because they ran out of memory with TouchWiz bloatware 99.9% folks never use features, despite the fact that S3 was updated to 4.3, and had 1GB RAM - just as S2 did, S2 /system was 512MB, /preload was another 512MB. S3's firmware was ~800MB. So, really, it's just them having crappy business practices.
Another example? Galaxy Mini 2. It's moderately popular in Poland - it's cheap and "just works", and was released with 2.3 - had a couple of point releases, but never got past Gingerbread. There are 4.x ROMs for this phone here, and they're fast and fine. Capable - just Samsung's not interested. Okay, they were - and eventually announced that no update will be released.
I'm honestly admiring Microsoft for their WP8.1 upgrade policy.
Been there, done that. . My experience with a Verizon galaxy tab 10.1 was enough to convince me not to buy another Verizon variant of a Samsung tablet. If samsung is slow at releasing updates it only gets worse on carrier versions. Look at AT&T... they put in their FCC application at around the same time as Verizon for the Note probut are only now announcing it. In a world where refreshed hardware is released yearly having a 4 month lag in release is a bit concerning.
Sent from my SM-P900 using Tapatalk
Mr Dasher said:
I have been using my PRO 12.2 for a couple of months and I am quite happy. Coming from a Google Nexus background (phone and 7" tablet) one of my main concerns with purchasing a Samsung product was it's poor history of providing software updates. I have owned Samsung tablets in the past and always felt stranded by the lack of updated versions of Android.
It will be interesting to see how fast it will take them to push out Android 4.4.3 OTA. 4.4.3 is a minor update so one would think that it would be fairly quick. I really hope Samsung passes the test. Let's see how serious they really are.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's a systemic Android issue. Apple puts out updates to their 7 year old devices, but Android devices are always abandoned in less than a year. Hopefully, we'll get better support for this device.
Going through Social media, forums, I always comes across different set of people/users/readers. Many of them simply ask for updates and wait but many, on the other side, shouts and show their anger on social media and forums and blame the device manufacturer and their developers for not providing the marshmallow(or rather updates) on time or as promised. Same is the case with HONOR users, sometimes. We are still far ahead of others because we have the beta versions or stable version for some devices and we can expect that we will get the stable Marshmallow for all devices soon and Android Nougat soon.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
How many phones are actually running on Marshmallow Or rather any android version? Well, you are at the right place to look for this information. Read on.
With endless resources and number of employees at its disposal, itâ??s hard to believe that Google is still struggling to get a majority of Android users on to a single platform version. And yet, ten months after the launch of Android 6.0 Marshmallow, only about 20% of Android devices have been updated (includes unofficial custom and stock versions)
Numbers are out for the month of September 1st week and Marshmallow has finally reached near the 20% figure with 18.7% market share compared to other Android versions. By the end of year 2015, Kitkat was the clear winner with the largest share even though there were two versions of Lollipop i.e. 5.0 and 5.1 but still Kitkat was leading with 37.80% of the market share compared with combined 35.60% of Lollipop (15.5% for version 5 and 10.10% for version 5.1).
View attachment 3876272
But the market is changed now with lot of new devices launching every now and then with Lollipop, then the latest version, thus making the lollipop to the top of this list with 35% compared to 27.6% of kitkat and few with marshmallow out of the box. With so many devices around, not all users have still tasted the Lollipop, forget about the Marshmallow and the latest Nougat. Marshmallow share was around 7.5% as of May 2016 which has risen up to 10.1% in June 2016 (yeah, into the double digit mark for the 1st time since launch). Marshmallow was unveiled in May 2015, almost a year back, at Google I/O under the codename "Android Mâ?, it was officially released in October 2015 and was able to surpass the Froyo (android 2.2) market share during December 2015, Froyo had the market share of only .20% in December 2015. (Marshmallow surpassing Froyo? Yeah you read it right, not sure how many of you even know about this android 2.2 version by name).
So Marshmallow has touched the double figure mark, in May, for the market share but Google has made next to no progress on its fragmentation problem, making this entire situation even more awful is the fact that Google has just announced the next version of Android at its annual Google I/O developerâ??s conference on May 18th and unveiled the latest Android 7 with name Nougat on June 30th, 2016. Unless Google has a plan to deal with fragmentation once and for all, the issue is only going to get worse hereafter.
shashank1320 said:
Going through Social media, forums, I always comes across different set of people/users/readers. Many of them simply ask for updates and wait but many, on the other side, shouts and show their anger on social media and forums and blame the device manufacturer and their developers for not providing the marshmallow(or rather updates) on time or as promised. Same is the case with HONOR users, sometimes. We are still far ahead of others because we have the beta versions or stable version for some devices and we can expect that we will get the stable Marshmallow for all devices soon and Android Nougat soon.
How many phones are actually running on Marshmallow Or rather any android version? Well, you are at the right place to look for this information. Read on.
With endless resources and number of employees at its disposal, itâ??s hard to believe that Google is still struggling to get a majority of Android users on to a single platform version. And yet, ten months after the launch of Android 6.0 Marshmallow, only about 20% of Android devices have been updated (includes unofficial custom and stock versions)
Numbers are out for the month of September 1st week and Marshmallow has finally reached near the 20% figure with 18.7% market share compared to other Android versions. By the end of year 2015, Kitkat was the clear winner with the largest share even though there were two versions of Lollipop i.e. 5.0 and 5.1 but still Kitkat was leading with 37.80% of the market share compared with combined 35.60% of Lollipop (15.5% for version 5 and 10.10% for version 5.1).
But the market is changed now with lot of new devices launching every now and then with Lollipop, then the latest version, thus making the lollipop to the top of this list with 35% compared to 27.6% of kitkat and few with marshmallow out of the box. With so many devices around, not all users have still tasted the Lollipop, forget about the Marshmallow and the latest Nougat. Marshmallow share was around 7.5% as of May 2016 which has risen up to 10.1% in June 2016 (yeah, it into the double digit mark for the 1st time since launch). Marshmallow was unveiled in May 2015, almost a year back, at Google I/O under the codename "Android Mâ?, it was officially released in October 2015 and was able to surpass the Froyo (android 2.2) market share during December 2015, Froyo had the market share of only .20% in December 2015. (Marshmallow surpassing Froyo? Yeah you read it right, not sure how many of you even know about this android 2.2 version by name).
So Marshmallow has just touched the double figure mark, in May, for the market share but Google has made next to no progress on its fragmentation problem, making this entire situation even more awful is the fact that Google has just announced the next version of Android at its annual Google I/O developerâ??s conference on May 18th and unveiled the latest Android 7 with name Nougat on June 30th, 2016. Unless Google has a plan to deal with fragmentation once and for all, the issue is only going to get worse hereafter.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So after 3 years KitKat is still dominant
PalakMi said:
So after 3 years KitKat is still dominant
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Absolutely many have not tasted the lollipop yet..
Sent from my HUAWEI KIW-L22 using XDA Labs
OPO was the device that made oneplus what it is today, don't we deserve a small update that would complete our phone from the software perspective?
We are always given the argument that our hardware isn't voLTE capable, each one of us knows that voLTE is a software feature.
Let's tweet to Carl Pei (link below) with hashtag voLTE4OPO requesting voLTE update for OnePlus One, I've already done so. Let's also tell him we know voLTE is a software feature. It's your turn now. Tell your friends owning OPO about this initiative.
Also sign this petition -
https://www.change.org/p/oneplus-release-update-of-volte-for-all-oneplus-devices
Don't forget, 5 fingers make a fist, support of everyone reading this is needed. I'm quite sure we're still quite large in number together & our dream might come true if we work together ?
Thanks
Sent from 1+1
Carl Pei's twitter account link -
https://twitter.com/getpeid
Sent from 1+1
Great!
Awesome campaign. Tweeted!
tweeted!
Tweated but i think its of no use.......... But best luck to OPO
pankspoo said:
Tweated but i think its of no use.......... But best luck to OPO
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We should get, even $45 phones today come with voLTE, and OPO is the first flagship which established the company, it is not acceptable if the ditch support to OPO. And it's not even 5 years since it was launched, how can you ditch your flagship product in 2 years?
Success or failure is another thing, atleast we can give a last shot. Who knows maybe they become kind for us ✌?
Sent from 1+1
impulsar said:
We should get, even $45 phones today come with voLTE, and OPO is the first flagship which established the company, it is not acceptable if the ditch support to OPO. And it's not even 5 years since it was launched, how can you ditch your flagship product in 2 years?
Success or failure is another thing, atleast we can give a last shot. Who knows maybe they become kind for us
Sent from 1+1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The 45$ phone you are talking about has launched in 2016. OnePlus one was launched in April, 2014.
Do you know how long that has been? 2 yrs, 9 months.
Tell me ONE phone, ANY ONE phone from ANY MANUFACTURER that has received support THIS late into its life. Not Samsung S series, not HTC One series, not Sony Xperia Z series, heck even the best manufacturer in update scenario, Motorola, abandons it's smartphones in 2 yrs. Don't fall into the misunderstanding that your so called tweets will get OnePlus onto its toes to give out an update to you. Do you see a phone called OnePlus X into its portfolio? It was launched in October, 2015 - 1y 6 months AFTER the launch of the One. That phone hasn't received a VoLTE update, and won't EVER. Come back from your dreamland, be a sport, either change your phone or live with the fact that One is a dead product.
Oh, and Carl is having a laugh at you right now for your efforts ?
rshbhghelani said:
The 45$ phone you are talking about has launched in 2016. OnePlus one was launched in April, 2014.
Do you know how long that has been? 2 yrs, 9 months.
Tell me ONE phone, ANY ONE phone from ANY MANUFACTURER that has received support THIS late into its life. Not Samsung S series, not HTC One series, not Sony Xperia Z series, heck even the best manufacturer in update scenario, Motorola, abandons it's smartphones in 2 yrs. Don't fall into the misunderstanding that your so called tweets will get OnePlus onto its toes to give out an update to you. Do you see a phone called OnePlus X into its portfolio? It was launched in October, 2015 - 1y 6 months AFTER the launch of the One. That phone hasn't received a VoLTE update, and won't EVER. Come back from your dreamland, be a sport, either change your phone or live with the fact that One is a dead product.
Oh, and Carl is having a laugh at you right now for your efforts ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I might not be precise with numbers, but what's wrong in an effort? It's not gonna take one's life making a tweet ? I'm sure OPO is also special for oneplus guys and our effort might make a change in their heart ?
Sent from 1+1
impulsar said:
I might not be precise with numbers, but what's wrong in an effort? It's not gonna take one's life making a tweet I'm sure OPO is also special for oneplus guys and our effort might make a change in their heart
Sent from 1+1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have no problems with that, but the thing is if the One had been that special, they would have shown it, like say, Oxygen OS might have been updated for it which never went past Android 5.1.1. In the end we have to respect Carl and his decision, OnePlus is after all a rational company with profit as its motive, whether they say it or not. And at this point, they have no point giving out an update to a phone that has a lot less number of users or that won't rake in even one cent for the company!
tweeted!
This discussed lots of time before
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...53#post70108853?_e_pi_=7,PAGE_ID10,2279808605
Yeah the opo reached its EOL. I dont think we will receive any more updates.
rshbhghelani said:
The 45$ phone you are talking about has launched in 2016. OnePlus one was launched in April, 2014.
Do you know how long that has been? 2 yrs, 9 months.
Tell me ONE phone, ANY ONE phone from ANY MANUFACTURER that has received support THIS late into its life. Not Samsung S series, not HTC One series, not Sony Xperia Z series, heck even the best manufacturer in update scenario, Motorola, abandons it's smartphones in 2 yrs. Don't fall into the misunderstanding that your so called tweets will get OnePlus onto its toes to give out an update to you. Do you see a phone called OnePlus X into its portfolio? It was launched in October, 2015 - 1y 6 months AFTER the launch of the One. That phone hasn't received a VoLTE update, and won't EVER. Come back from your dreamland, be a sport, either change your phone or live with the fact that One is a dead product.
Oh, and Carl is having a laugh at you right now for your efforts
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
iPhone 4 got supported for more or less than 4 years? But it's apple, so yeah. lol
rshbhghelani said:
The 45$ phone you are talking about has launched in 2016. OnePlus one was launched in April, 2014.
Do you know how long that has been? 2 yrs, 9 months.
Tell me ONE phone, ANY ONE phone from ANY MANUFACTURER that has received support THIS late into its life. Not Samsung S series, not HTC One series, not Sony Xperia Z series, heck even the best manufacturer in update scenario, Motorola, abandons it's smartphones in 2 yrs. Don't fall into the misunderstanding that your so called tweets will get OnePlus onto its toes to give out an update to you. Do you see a phone called OnePlus X into its portfolio? It was launched in October, 2015 - 1y 6 months AFTER the launch of the One. That phone hasn't received a VoLTE update, and won't EVER. Come back from your dreamland, be a sport, either change your phone or live with the fact that One is a dead product.
Oh, and Carl is having a laugh at you right now for your efforts
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A little harsh but you are correct. No company apart from Apple supports their phones for 4 years, heck even Google stopped support for Nexus 5!
RazerSharp said:
A little harsh but you are correct. No company apart from Apple supports their phones for 4 years, heck even Google stopped support for Nexus 5!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's the point! Apple doesn't manufacture Android phones, had they been manufacturing androids, even they would have fallen in the same category as others!
Part of this update stopping is due to Google, they have given an official license to the OEMs to update phones for 2 years. Granted they mention 'at least 2 years', but the OEMs hardly care about at least, 2 year seems a reasonable time and hence they do not go beyond it. Due to the immense competition in Android world, there is very low margin on the android phones and OEMs hardly earn anything. So they expect you to bring business to them by buying a new smartphone, and not updating phones might motivate you to get a new one! If you compare the same with Apple, it is no secret that they have exorbitant profit margins on their iPhones and hence they can easily afford to support your phones for 4 years, because the support costs are already added to your iPhone's cost! So we should stop whining, and understand how businesses work!
tweeted
Samsung releases volte ota for galaxy s5 phone snapdragon 801 soc used in opo
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
imak_p said:
Samsung releases volte ota for galaxy s5 phone snapdragon 801 soc used in opo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So?
fmc000 said:
So?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
S5 was released in 2014,thus answering the question someone raised earlier about support