My wife and I ported over to Verizon last week because AT&T coverage has not improved where we live for the last few years. We both got "G900Vs" from a local reseller. My phone came with OC4 installed and my wife's phone came with NI2 installed. I haven't heeded the persistent nag to update my phone from OC4 OTA to presumably OE1 for fears of not being able to go back to to a previous version to root without tripping the Knox flag. OK I'll wait 'til I'm ready to root OC4. I decided to take the plunge with my wife's phone nag a few days ago and to my surprise it only updated to NK7. Figured I bought some time there. After that update on my wife's phone the nag returned with a invite to upgrade to 5.0 (lollipop). When I hit the "Learn more online" link it said the update would be to OC4 so I opted for it tonight. Well after going through the update to what I thought would be OC4 on my wife's phone it's still showing NK7 for the Build number and the nag is back, however, as is the same on my phone, tapping "Learn more online" no longer shows what the next update will be but only links to PDFs with generic info. Is there something nefarious going on? Is Verizon trying to trap us into OE1? Can we ever get root if we heed the nag and hit "Install now"?
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I'm sure this is somewhere on the forum but I've made a best effort searching/reading for the past hour, and am now more confused. I rooted my incredible a few weeks ago in order to get the tethering feature to work, and this was before the OTA update from VZN came along. everything works, no complaints.
Since 1) I did not get the OTA update, and 2) I eventually would like Froyo, I have a few questions:
1) Do I need the OTA update?
2) Will I need it in order to get VZN's Froyo update whenever that becomes available?
3) If so, should I wait until that announcement is made?
4) If I unroot and get the OTA, can I simply re-root in order to get the tethering feature back?
5) Would I be able re-root by following the same instructions as when I rooted the first time (unrevoked3)?
6) If I unroot/install OTA update/re-root, how do I get VZN's Froyo when it is released? I assume I would need to un-root again, and then wait for the update?
7) Am I just as well off unrooting/installing OTA update/re-rooting and getting an unofficial version of Froyo? I am in no rush for froyo and do not want to risk messing up the phone for it.
I assume some of these questions are answered on the forums but like I said, the instructions I found on various threads seemed incomplete. Would greatly appreciate answers/links to answers for any of the questions.
Thanks
if your happy with the way the your phone is right now than just wait till the official update comes out.
You'll likely be told the update is available on your phone, but if you want root, you won't want to apply that right away.
Hopefully some magic like Evo update is done for us... the Evo update has already been rooted and pulled apart.
Thanks binny and k_flan... So I'll just wait for VZN. Can I install the VZN update (Froyo) directly or would I have to un-root first? No way to know this I suppose, but will the VZN Froyo allow wireless tether or will I have to pay extra for the feature?
My plan
My plan at this point is to wait for the OTA and then for unrEVOked to see if they can root it. If they can, I will RUU back to a stock rom, and apply the official update. This will guarantee [1] VZW to handle if I brick, and [2] that I am running the real radio and the real 2.2 (instead of the buggy beta which is making the rounds).
If they can't then the decision gets harder. I suspect that my desire for the 2.2 will outweigh my need to still be rooted.
What I know i WONT do is jump through these hoops just to install a beta radio/OS combo. If the radio wasn't at issue, it would be a different story.
np OP. You won't want to install the VZW update, it will likely not work with unrevoked's reflash tool.
I also have to correct what I said earlier, it doesn't appear it is the final build that was rooted for the Evo, but the radio was pulled from the final build and used with a rom.... Either way, it seems they've got the official radio (at least, that's how it looks for now), hopefully that happens for us, and official radio img.
Fair enough. still getting up to speed on terminology.... i assume reflash means un-root - is there any way to reset the phone to be able to get the VZ update/froyo?
Hi, my phone wants be to upgrade the firmeware and i was wondering if it has any negative side effects for a phone that is rooted. I remember last time when i upgraded it since my phone was rooted it caused all sorts of problems and i am wondering if the same thing happens now.
If you want the upgrade unroot the phone......... but what firmware upgrade is it ?
Its the long awaited OTA 2.2 a tmo rep told me it was rolling out this week, but with no hard evidence I didnt post it.
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Ya, i got invited to upgrade, but i am worried when i do it will screw up my cellphone since its unrooted.
Just unroot then..
Dont worry,just do it
Is it safe for me to do this? I'm running 2.2.1 rooted on Telus, and I'm completely happy with my phone and how it runs. What will happen if I update?
Can I stop the update message from coming up?
"Update(0.37.23.en.CA) has been downloaded and is ready to install"
The only choices I get are Install Now or Install Later.
It will blow up.
you will get HSUPA (more details about the update can be found via search or on the moto site)
minor update that came out months ago. I say go for it.
Hey guys. First off, I'm new (this is my first post) so if I say/ do something wrong, please be considerate.
So I read somewhere that the new version of Android, Android L, might be coming out as early as December for the Samsung Galaxy S5. Earlier this year I got a Galaxy S5 and as it is my first Android, I wanted it to be the best it could. After a while I decided that it would be a good idea to root it, but as it is a Verizon model, it didn't look like I was going to be able to since the bootloader is locked. Luckily once towelroot came out I was able to root it, thankfully.
A month or two later, an OTA update came out, for Kitkat 4.4.3, and after several tries at installing it, I figured out the hard way that once you root your phone, OTA updates don't work anymore.
With all this being said, I'm a little concerned that I wont be able to get the next version of android on my phone. Even if it does come out in an OTA update, I know I wont be able to install it and since the bootloader is locked, I wont be able to flash it onto my phone.
Is there any hope that I'll be able to get Android L, or am I going to be stuck with Kitkat 4.4.2?
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Hey guys. First off, I'm new (this is my first post) so if I say/ do something wrong, please be considerate.
So I read somewhere that the new version of Android, Android L, might be coming out as early as December for the Samsung Galaxy S5. Earlier this year I got a Galaxy S5 and as it is my first Android, I wanted it to be the best it could. After a while I decided that it would be a good idea to root it, but as it is a Verizon model, it didn't look like I was going to be able to since the bootloader is locked. Luckily once towelroot came out I was able to root it, thankfully.
A month or two later, an OTA update came out, for Kitkat 4.4.3, and after several tries at installing it, I figured out the hard way that once you root your phone, OTA updates don't work anymore.
With all this being said, I'm a little concerned that I wont be able to get the next version of android on my phone. Even if it does come out in an OTA update, I know I wont be able to install it and since the bootloader is locked, I wont be able to flash it onto my phone.
Is there any hope that I'll be able to get Android L, or am I going to be stuck with Kitkat 4.4.2?
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I don't know anything about L coming out but you can get all the updates you want. All the info you need is in threads here and in the general forum. You can always odin back to stock and take OTA updates. Or you can install which ever version you want via odin and then root from there.
Edit: In reading an article a while ago over @ techradar, I think we'll be seeing L sooner than you think. The thinking seems to go that when the Note 4 drops with L on it, Sammy will push it to their top tier phones right away after that...
I broke my (rooted) phone and verizon is sending me a brand new replacement.
When it arrives I want to root it, since it shouldn't have the latest OTA updates on it.
But I am wary of just immediately following the instructions here without activating it first, because I am not sure what the OS version is.
If by some chance they shipped it to me with OG5 on it I will brick it when I try to root it.
Is there a way to tell what the current OS is without activating it? Don't want to download the OTA unintentionally once it's activated.
Never mind, the phone just arrived and it already had OE1 on it.