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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PkYlFne52yM
That's some serious guts man
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An excellent video for people that want to go 'naked' should watch.
of course a bumper with some sort of protection for the front & rear is the minimum you want to have if you want your phone to look 'good' 6 months or longer.
A bumper is essential as it isn't difficult to scratch the aluminium (keys will do it) or remove the paint off the aluminium.
At least the Z1 only has aluminium trim, something like the HTC one whose back was entirely aluminium would have been a nightmare to keep scratch free. Aluminium scratches even easier than glass.
Wow the screen seems to be very good against scratches
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Wow the screen seems to be very good against scratches
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Does not mean anything, i've seen similar videos of people doing the same with gorilla glass.
Does gorilla glass get scratched ? ohh yes, will dragontrail get scratched too ? count on it.
See, its not metal rubbing against the glass that is the issue, but sand which can be anywhere and can easily come into contact with the glass at any time or any place. Are you going to verify that every surface you ever place your phone upon is sand free. Nah. Life's too short to worry about it.
What does this video of utmost importance show that the worst poops do not already know about?
What kind of swankpot are those people?
Or am I missing something?
Was watching his other videos where he does a compare with the G2. In the end the score is a tie.
What surprised me is he gave the Z1 the thumbs up on screen over the G2. Why ? because the x-reality engine makes movies or photos more pleasing to the eye. Almost every other reviewer i've seen harps on about viewing angles etc. From comments i've red here people did not seem to rely too much on x-reality as it can be misleading. Looks great on the phone, but not necessarily the same on another screen without x-reality. But the point is x-reality does a little more that others do not and this he notes and gives the Z1 the point for screen.
The next interesting bit is he gives the camera to the G2 but only by a little amount. he says if he went on vacation he'd prefer to take the G2 instead of the Z1 but that's not to say the Z1 does not have a good camera but its not altogether quite there.
Another curious point he mentions about the Z1 in another review is he finds that sometimes stubble on your face can get caught on the Z1 in the gap where the screen meets the frame. He found it curious as that's not happened with any other phone. Anyone that goes around with 5 days beard growth or more want to comment on that ?
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Another curious point he mentions about the Z1 in another review is he finds that sometimes stubble on your face can get caught on the Z1 in the gap where the screen meets the frame. He found it curious as that's not happened with any other phone. Anyone that goes around with 5 days beard growth or more want to comment on that ?
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I can definitely confirm
Bumper case ordered
Jiyeon90 said:
Wow the screen seems to be very good against scratches
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i know..
it's total bull****... the anti shatter film has 0 scratch resistance
I was so pissed when i realize so many scratches on it.
One Twelve said:
Another curious point he mentions about the Z1 in another review is he finds that sometimes stubble on your face can get caught on the Z1 in the gap where the screen meets the frame. He found it curious as that's not happened with any other phone. Anyone that goes around with 5 days beard growth or more want to comment on that ?
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Yes. I get a free beard trimming with every phone call I make thanks to my lovely Z1. Just have to remember to switch sides each time to keep things symmetrical
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I can definitely confirm
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Yes. I get a free beard trimming with every phone call I make thanks to my lovely Z1.
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Damn! two replies within a day. Guess that's a another reason to have a bumper with the Z1
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Just have to remember to switch sides each time to keep things symmetrical
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Damn. Its so scary to drop the phone. And with all the z1 users screen gets cracked when they take it out in their pockets or bags.
Does anyone know how to remove the front glass of the Z1 screen as mine has cracked. I can see that a replacement front glass can be bought for around £35 on ebay.
Ive replaced iphone front screens simply by following youtube vids. However, I cannot find any for the Z1. Is the Z1 screen glued on like the Z or is it a different construction.
Can anyone point me in the direction to a guide.
Thanks
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Does anyone know how to remove the front glass of the Z1 screen as mine has cracked. I can see that a replacement front glass can be bought for around £35 on ebay.
Ive replaced iphone front screens simply by following youtube vids. However, I cannot find any for the Z1. Is the Z1 screen glued on like the Z or is it a different construction.
Can anyone point me in the direction to a guide.
Thanks
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVALfBNvpOA
Happy new year!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVALfBNvpOA
Happy new year!
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It's not so easy like SE X1 or Atrix , but not so hard too.
But lack of heater may be a problem
What temperature should be to peel it off?
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It's not so easy like SE X1 or Atrix , but not so hard too.
But lack of heater may be a problem
What temperature should be to peel it off?
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Just use a hairdryer? There is no perfect temperature, just heat it up. This may help... it's similar but remember this video is the Xperia Z, not the Z1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfXaze8AS2o
Be careful with the videos on youtube for a screen replacement. Many of them was made with already opened devices, that its why the screens seems come out very easily but for real is not that simple. I did this to my HTC and I cry nights and days. Also forget the waterproof feature after doing this.
To get the waterproof feature back you need a press. Somebody had posted sony service docs here a month or so back.
The hardest bit i think will be the sealing part, changing the glass, provided you have prior experience won't be too difficult.
I want to buy the xperia Z3C. it fits all my needs, has an adequate sized screen ,excellent performance, good battery life etc ,etc.
But the previous Sony flagship phones, namely the Z, Z1, Z1C & Z2 have a very serious manufacturing defect - self cracking screens. the glass panes on the front and the back of these phones crack due to overheating (sometimes without overheating). there have been cases where the owners went to bed with their phones on a table and woke up to find that the phone had cracked. the problem seem to lie with the glass and metal construction. due to the waterproof and dustproof construction ,there isn't any proper heat dissipation, and since aluminum and glass react differently to heat, the glass cracks(in some cases even the display below it). Sony continues to deny the defect, usually blaming the user for the cracked glass and the users have to pay for the new screen(~$200-$300)
so back to the Z3 and Z3C, they have the same construction. so I am worried. if i do buy ,then I have to buy the phone unlocked ,which will set me back by $600( I am from India, no contracts here).
So what are your thoughts on this issue, and is there anybody who has faced this issue before?
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I want to buy the xperia Z3C. it fits all my needs, has an adequate sized screen ,excellent performance, good battery life etc ,etc.
But the previous Sony flagship phones, namely the Z, Z1, Z1C & Z2 have a very serious manufacturing defect - self cracking screens. the glass panes on the front and the back of these phones crack due to overheating (sometimes without overheating). there have been cases where the owners went to bed with their phones on a table and woke up to find that the phone had cracked. the problem seem to lie with the glass and metal construction. due to the waterproof and dustproof construction ,there isn't any proper heat dissipation, and since aluminum and glass react differently to heat, the glass cracks(in some cases even the display below it). Sony continues to deny the defect, usually blaming the user for the cracked glass and the users have to pay for the new screen(~$200-$300)
so back to the Z3 and Z3C, they have the same construction. so I am worried. if i do buy ,then I have to buy the phone unlocked ,which will set me back by $600( I am from India, no contracts here).
So what are your thoughts on this issue, and is there anybody who has faced this issue before?
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Coming from the XZ, I know the stories. In my opinion you shouldn't be worried. The chance that a screen cracks without ANY reason is less then 1%, many times something hit people's screen without realizing. In the 1.5 years that I've had my XZ I have dropped my phone (on purpose) many times, without anything happening. People also removed the anti shatter screen, which results into bigger chance that the screen will crack.
I don't blame Sony for giving the fault to the consumer, it's not like Sony doesn't test their products before releasing them. If Sony gave everyone a new phone after they said that it cracked without a reason, guess what everyone would do.... Claim that the screen cracked without a reason just to get a new phone/screen.
(Why do you have to pay 600$ for the phone btw? You can just buy it cheaper at sites like Clove/Handtec and get the same insurances.)
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Coming from the XZ, I know the stories. In my opinion you shouldn't be worried. The chance that a screen cracks without ANY reason is less then 1%, many times something hit people's screen without realizing. In the 1.5 years that I've had my XZ I have dropped my phone (on purpose) many times, without anything happening. People also removed the anti shatter screen, which results into bigger chance that the screen will crack.
I don't blame Sony for giving the fault to the consumer, it's not like Sony doesn't test their products before releasing them. If Sony gave everyone a new phone after they said that it cracked without a reason, guess what everyone would do.... Claim that the screen cracked without a reason just to get a new phone/screen.
(Why do you have to pay 600$ for the phone btw? You can just buy it cheaper at sites like Clove/Handtec and get the same insurances.)
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well that's some relief. from what I've heard sony have removed the anti-shatter layer from their new phones. as for paying $600, I don't know whether I'll get warranty on the phone in India, if i buy from handtec or clove
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well that's some relief. from what I've heard sony have removed the anti-shatter layer from their new phones. as for paying $600, I don't know whether I'll get warranty on the phone in India, if i buy from handtec or clove
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You will, but the two year warranty will remain in the UK. In other words, if something goes wrong, you have to send it back to them to take a look at and repair Made sure I checked that, as this is my first online purchase of a mobile phone
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You will, but the two year warranty will remain in the UK. In other words, if something goes wrong, you have to send it back to them to take a look at and repair Made sure I checked that, as this is my first online purchase of a mobile phone
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Yeah that's right. It's also my international perchance when it comes to phones, but from what I've understood that if there is something actually wrong with the phone, you'll only have to pay the shipping costs and of course not the repair costs. Unless it was your fault.
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You will, but the two year warranty will remain in the UK. In other words, if something goes wrong, you have to send it back to them to take a look at and repair Made sure I checked that, as this is my first online purchase of a mobile phone
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I always buy my Sony phones outside the US, have had warranty covered in US every time I needed to.
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I just got a crack on my new Z3 Compact front screen without any reason. No drops or impacts.
I have case and screen protectors on the phone.
Ah sony ..... Some things do not change
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I always buy my Sony phones outside the US, have had warranty covered in US every time I needed to.
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That's good to know.
demon_xxi said:
I just got a crack on my new Z3 Compact front screen without any reason. No drops or impacts.
I have case and screen protectors on the phone.
Ah sony ..... Some things do not change
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Do you play games or run apps that are processor intensive? Did you set the phone down on a cool flat surface such as a glass table or kitchen counter after using it? - This was a big issue for Nexus 4 back glass. Cold surface + warm phone = cracked backs
Too bad... I am afraid the beaking glass will break the deal for me. Wanted this Z3c pretty bad
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Too bad... I am afraid the beaking glass will break the deal for me. Wanted this Z3c pretty bad
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I was really close to pulling the trigger on one from Clove to USA and even called to have them do a pre-check on phone before sending to me so I can be sure to get a good set of speakers, no dead pixels etc. they charge about $ 30 for this service
Now,I am on hold on Z3 C .
IF I can put screen protectors tempered glass front and back and put it in a really
good case-will I be able to use it in an active lifestyle in front pocket for a year or so...and be reasonably certain no broken screen.?
There was no cold and hot involved with my phone. It was maximum in my jacket pocket. Really no abuse or other non standard use.
Also I think tempered glass would not help in this case. The glass would break under it as well.
I am hoping to get it fixed cause I want this phone badly. It is the only one I like now for features/form factor ratio.
I wish they get a root soon too. Would like to see MIUI on this phone.
dropped z3c several times. hasn't cracked.
demon_xxi said:
I just got a crack on my new Z3 Compact front screen without any reason. No drops or impacts.
I have case and screen protectors on the phone.
Ah sony ..... Some things do not change
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Picture please? :good::good:
Yeah, please upload the picture.
My $0.02... I have a Z1C that developed a severe set of cracks. Until reading this thread, I had a suspicion that it "happened on its own" but couldn't really believe it; so I attributed it to some unknown abuse on my part. I'm still skeptical, but I'm confident no outside force hit the screen so I'm tending to believe it was a case of spontaneous cracking (perhaps due to heat?).
It's off to Sony USA for evaluation. I'll be pleasantly surprised and impressed with Sony if they cover it under warranty. One other note: I purchased it from Clove UK, but Sony USA had it in their database and offered no protest.
Whether warrantied or not, I am disappointed by their repair policy. It would be nice to cross-ship a replacement so I am not un-phoned for two weeks, but, alas, no. So, I pulled the trigger on a Z3C (which normally would not be compelling enough for me to upgrade) which should be here Monday. And I'll pass the repaired Z1C on to one of the kids.
I've had the Z1 for about a year. It's fallen a number of times from 4 feet or so on to a ceramic tile floor. I've got a Devilcase aluminum bumper on the phone. The corners of the Devilcase are all dented and chewed up, but there are no cracks in the glass. I just got the Z3 compact, and I'm hoping for as good of luck with it.
less than a week
So I've had my new shiny Z3 less than a week and have a hairline crack all the way across the top right hand corner of the screen and the touch does not work above the crack, no abuse, I don't keep it in a pocket it could be sat on in, it was fine in the morning when I was killing time before work playing games, on the desk next to me all day at work and then when I went to look at it when I finished it has this mystery crack.
I'm sending to Sony under the warranty to see if they will repair this obvious design defect as some of my research on the net suggests they will and will update this thread with the result
Definitely enough reports of this to be concerning....
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I too want it badly
Ananay Singh said:
I want to buy the xperia Z3C. it fits all my needs, has an adequate sized screen ,excellent performance, good battery life etc ,etc.
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I just got a crack on my new Z3 Compact front screen without any reason. No drops or impacts.
I have case and screen protectors on the phone.
Ah sony ..... Some things do not change
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I too want this phone and it is available (cheapest) in ebay India for around 38k, but now incidents of self cracked screens are troubling me!
http://youtu.be/aTpFTifoMks
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I'd choose a Sony over that every single time!
Where is the glass part of the phone btw? This phone is just like all the others, while Sony has a back and front plate made out of glass.
that's one chunky
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I'd choose a Sony over that every single time!
Where is the glass part of the phone btw? This phone is just like all the others, while Sony has a back and front plate made out of glass.
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Did you watch the video with your eyes open?
One side of every mobile phone made, is glass, you know, so you can see through it to the information on the display! It would be quite problematic if they placed a plastic, rubber or metal casing over the phones actual lcd display as you would not be able to interact with its touch capabilities nor would you be able to see the screen!
My post is only talking purely about the glass.
I have a z3 compact and love it. However the glass is not resilient enough.
Imagine if on the iteration of the z4 Sony used this glass, front and back, then just increased the thickness of the nylon corners by 1-2mm so that when placed flat on a surface this was the only part that touched.
Close to perfection! Naked phone all day everyday ☺
That's one chunky and ugly phone! But at least I'd trust the glass more than I do the Z3c's
Funny thing is, many people's iPhones, Xperias, Galaxies etc. end up looking just as chunky and ugly when wrapped with big ol' cases for protection :laugh:
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Did you watch the video with your eyes open?
One side of every mobile phone made, is glass, you know, so you can see through it to the information on the display! It would be quite problematic if they placed a plastic, rubber or metal casing over the phones actual lcd display as you would not be able to interact with its touch capabilities nor would you be able to see the screen!
My post is only talking purely about the glass.
I have a z3 compact and love it. However the glass is not resilient enough.
Imagine if on the iteration of the z4 Sony used this glass, front and back, then just increased the thickness of the nylon corners by 1-2mm so that when placed flat on a surface this was the only part that touched.
Close to perfection! Naked phone all day everyday ☺
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It was 5am when I watched the video. Anyways... What I meant was, Sony has one front and rear glass body, while that phone has only the front part that's made out of glass, that's why I said that the phone is similar to other phones out there. The rear of the phone you linked takes most of the impact when the phone falls. Glass can take less hits (Sony front and rear)
In the end it doesn't matter if the phone is shatterproof/breakproof/waterproof. It's proof until a certain point.
It really doesn't matter if the/a phone is made out of diamonds, it will never be indestructible.
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It was 5am when I watched the video. Anyways... What I meant was, Sony has one front and rear glass body, while that phone has only the front part that's made out of glass, that's why I said that the phone is similar to other phones out there. The rear of the phone you linked takes most of the impact when the phone falls. Glass can take less hits (Sony front and rear)
In the end it doesn't matter if the phone is shatterproof/breakproof/waterproof. It's proof until a certain point.
It really doesn't matter if the/a phone is made out of diamonds, it will never be indestructible.
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Sometimes I don't know why I bother, some people just look for the black clouds in everything!
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Sometimes I don't know why I bother, some people just look for the black clouds in everything!
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Exactly! Hence the title of this topic. This is a Sony section, I don't see what you can/want to reach by posting such a video here.
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Dsteppa said:
Exactly! Hence the title of this topic. This is a Sony section, I don't see what you can/want to reach by posting such a video here.
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OMG here come the clouds!
I actually get what you mean, and it would certainly be nice seeing something like that on a smartphone with 2 glass sides, but it would be really expensive. The off-contract price for Z3 Compact is already $500+, if both sides had a sapphire glass it would cost $700 or most likely more (especially since Sony does not produce their own sapphire glass). And the sapphire glass, while scratch-proof, can still break during certain impacts, as the video has shown. I'd rather see Sony use a better quality glass - not a sapphire but something which doesn't crack during normal usage, like some Z3C's currently do
This thread is pointless.
A Phone with sapphire front and backpanel, as thin as the Z3, would be way more prone to cracking. While sapphire is much more scratch resistant it's also more brittle. Harder = more brittle. So what exactly is the point of this thread?
A bulky phone with a rugged design and built in bumper is stronger than a thin phone without all these rugged reinforcements? Who could have expected that? :cyclops:
Thanks, exactly what I just wanted to say. And the fact that the phone is so bulky is one reason they can use sapphire glass at all.
Apple invested hundreds of millions of dollars in sapphire, and still the iPhone 6 doesn't use it. Guess why.
http://time.com/3377972/why-apple-didnt-use-sapphire-iphone-screens/
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Thanks, exactly what I just wanted to say. And the fact that the phone is so bulky is one reason they can use sapphire glass at all.
Apple invested hundreds of millions of dollars in sapphire, and still the iPhone 6 doesn't use it. Guess why.
http://time.com/3377972/why-apple-didnt-use-sapphire-iphone-screens/
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Sorry to bring some rays of bright, ambitious, product design ideas to the forum!
The whole idea of my thread was to highlight the possibility of better glass for Sony. I for one am not so concerned about shock/impact resilence as I have never been so clumsy as to drop a phone. However to have a screen that remains scratch free for its intended life span? Well I would pay an extra $50 for that! Additionally like I said, if they redesigned the phone frame/bumper most of the shock due to a drop would not transmit to the screen.
In closing, it's hilarious how those of you who posted negative , inflammatory comments on the pointlessness of this thread.
It was obviously meaningful enough for you to waste your petty time, energy and minds on!
What a waste of internet space this thread is.
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When people think they're smarter than multi-billion dollar companies they either have a good reason or they didn't check the facts.
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That's one chunky and ugly phone! But at least I'd trust the glass more than I do the Z3c's
Funny thing is, many people's iPhones, Xperias, Galaxies etc. end up looking just as chunky and ugly when wrapped with big ol' cases for protection :laugh:
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Ahh some refreshing, intelligent and insightful comments.
Thankyou for your time and thoughts ☺
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I actually get what you mean, and it would certainly be nice seeing something like that on a smartphone with 2 glass sides, but it would be really expensive. The off-contract price for Z3 Compact is already $500+, if both sides had a sapphire glass it would cost $700 or most likely more (especially since Sony does not produce their own sapphire glass). And the sapphire glass, while scratch-proof, can still break during certain impacts, as the video has shown. I'd rather see Sony use a better quality glass - not a sapphire but something which doesn't crack during normal usage, like some Z3C's currently do
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Ahh another bright light, who reads a post, understand it's intend purpose and respectfully identified both sides of their opinion.
Good day to you sir ☺
Any type of Sapphire screen would have made the Z3 thicker. Additionally it would have required a total redesign to compensate for the sapphire brittleness.
So again, what is your point? A mistery phone from Sony designed around a sapphire screen? Then this thread should go in the general Sony section.
OP's too butthurt to listen to actual arguments I'm afraid.
Useless thread is useless.
Thread closed.
It seems there is no end to the z5 misfortunes. For me, it's like 5 min I decide to order the compact, then I read another piece of bad news. Then I think it can't be that bad and what other choice of compact waterproof phone do I have, then I read another piece of bad news, and so on. Anyway, Verge reports a cracked back panel. Looks just like my z3 compact.
www.theverge.com/2015/10/8/9480135/sony-xperia-z5-broken-glass-back
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The Z5C doesn't have a glass back, so happy days.
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The Z5C doesn't have a glass back, so happy days.
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Yes it does, frosted glass.
Both sides need to have plastic or temped protection cover
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Its normal you hear all this negative stuff because first thing that people do is when they find something negative and see if the problem can be fixed. When the phone is working fine those people dont care to write a topic or comment.
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Its normal you hear all this negative stuff because first thing that people do is when they find something negative and see if the problem can be fixed. When the phone is working fine those people dont care to write a topic or comment.
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That's very true but it also doesn't mean that it is not happening often. There were lots of reports with the z3 series. I was hoping that this spontaneous crack issue would be solved
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Although in this case it is unclear if it was spontaneous or not. He reports that he has an iPhone dock with metal edges on his desk and wonders if the phone might have landed partly on it at a bad angle.
Mind, cracks should still not happen even under such conditions. But it is something different than cracking on its own - this you can at least try to prevent by being careful and/or using a case.
O course, IMO a glass back is still a workbook example of form over function. I much much rather have a "non-premium" plastic back and not having to worry about the back side breaking than the reverse situation.
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Although in this case it is unclear if it was spontaneous or not. He reports that he has an iPhone dock with metal edges on his desk and wonders if the phone might have landed partly on it at a bad angle.
Mind, cracks should still not happen even under such conditions. But it is something different than cracking on its own - this you can at least try to prevent by being careful and/or using a case.
O course, IMO a glass back is still a workbook example of form over function. I much much rather have a "non-premium" plastic back and not having to worry about the back side breaking than the reverse situation.
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Yea dont know why they like to bash on sony while it could be a user that doesn't know his stuff. We all know them people at the verge are never happy with a phone unless its a iphone.
well, we had bend gate with an iphone and we have glass gate with z5c - its food for haters
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Yea dont know why they like to bash on sony while it could be a user that doesn't know his stuff. We all know them people at the verge are never happy with a phone unless its a iphone.
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Or it could be a real issue. It certainly was with the Z3c. I quite often do not agree with the reviews on verge, but automatically disqualifying something because it is posted on that site is a bit too much like fanboyism for me.
Also, someone who is "putting a phone on a table so it accidentally lands at a bad angle on another object" is for me very much not "a user that doesn't know his stuff". Sorry, but a phone which cannot take *that* without getting damaged simply has a design error.
Lets wait an see. It could be an isolated incident or it could be like with its predecessor something relatively common. I for my part will wait till at least Christmas before I but a Z5c. I really want for it to succeed - because if it doesn't we can probably say goodbye to any good android phones sub-5" - but I won't buy it if I have to be afraid it gets damaged each time I do not handle it with kids gloves.
I'm definitely a Sony Xperia fan boy. I love the compacts. I wish they would make compact waterproof phones forever. But even I confess the z3 compact cracked back panel was not just a Crackgate. It was very much real. I really hope it won't be an issue for my soon to order z5 compact.
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tudork said:
I'm definitely a Sony Xperia fan boy. I love the compacts. I wish they would make compact waterproof phones forever. But even I confess the z3 compact cracked back panel was not just a Crackgate. It was very much real. I really hope it won't be an issue for my soon to order z5 compact.
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new one still seem waterproof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X2jSk_5uKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEpNfOZ_vx4
And i got my z5c today to replace my z3c and i love it! The fingerprint scanner is such a win!
Well I just absolutely annihilated the backing on my two week old z5c.
Carrying boxes, slipped from thigh height onto cement and now looks like a bomb site.
Spiderweb cracks across half the back, glass splinters coming out everywhere.
I know concrete = bad but at least my RAZR m I'm writing from survived that for over a year, including concrete drops, before I put a case on it.
But Christ that back glass is anything but tough.
For the love of god either have insurance or put a case on it. This phone is slippery in any circumstance and one hard surface will ruin your day.
Hoping Sony will be helpful with repairs when I call tomorrow.
Love my phone, hate that they made it this fragile
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Well I just absolutely annihilated the backing on my two week old z5c.
Carrying boxes, slipped from thigh height onto cement and now looks like a bomb site.
Spiderweb cracks across half the back, glass splinters coming out everywhere.
I know concrete = bad but at least my RAZR m I'm writing from survived that for over a year, including concrete drops, before I put a case on it.
But Christ that back glass is anything but tough.
For the love of god either have insurance or put a case on it. This phone is slippery in any circumstance and one hard surface will ruin your day.
Hoping Sony will be helpful with repairs when I call tomorrow.
Love my phone, hate that they made it this fragile
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be happy its just the back tho because the back is easy to replace.
My z5c back just broke.
Took it in my hand. Did nothing.
Heard a click and there it was.
The upside of glass its alot more scratch resistance from plastic even from aluminium
the down side is more sensitive to high heat\cold changes and hits can stutter it more easily
i'vgot silicon case
Well, my Z5C back glass is now a spiderweb of shattered lines. Questions:
1. Where exactly can I get my hands on the original Sony back cover? Even though I am willing to pay Sony in the US to have it replaced, they are telling me they don't have availability to perform out-of-warranty work. They'll call me when they have availability. (Huh?!?)
2. Is the glass back itself part of the waterproofing membrane? When I watched the tear down video of the Z5C, it appears that there is a plastic membrane on the inside surface of the glass back. My basic inquiry is if the shattered back glass in itself renders the phone non-waterproof, or if it is still waterproof?
Thanks!
StHalcyon said:
Well, my Z5C back glass is now a spiderweb of shattered lines. Questions:
1. Where exactly can I get my hands on the original Sony back cover? Even though I am willing to pay Sony in the US to have it replaced, they are telling me they don't have availability to perform out-of-warranty work. They'll call me when they have availability. (Huh?!?)
2. Is the glass back itself part of the waterproofing membrane? When I watched the tear down video of the Z5C, it appears that there is a plastic membrane on the inside surface of the glass back. My basic inquiry is if the shattered back glass in itself renders the phone non-waterproof, or if it is still waterproof?
Thanks!
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1. Try Ebay. In europe they are around 10€, much cheaper if you order them from china, however i don't think they are all original. Look for the SONY logo in the middle of the glas.
2. I would say yes. The membrane you saw is probably the adhesive of the back panel https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Sony-Xperia-Z5-Compact-Back-Cover-Adhesive/IF312-102 if the glas is broken inside the adhesive it should be no more waterproof.
However you can test it by yourself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/water-resistant-waterproofing-testing-t3463969
Gewiz said:
1. Try Ebay. In europe they are around 10€, much cheaper if you order them from china, however i don't think they are all original. Look for the SONY logo in the middle of the glas.
2. I would say yes. The membrane you saw is probably the adhesive of the back panel https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Sony-Xperia-Z5-Compact-Back-Cover-Adhesive/IF312-102 if the glas is broken inside the adhesive it should be no more waterproof.
However you can test it by yourself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/water-resistant-waterproofing-testing-t3463969
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Thanks, but I am afraid to order from eBay, because based on seller reviews, there were many people complaining that they either did not get the item after purchase, or the NFC won't work. Many of the sellers blur/censor out the Sony mark. Not quite sure why, but it makes me think that these are not original items.
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Thanks, but I am afraid to order from eBay, because based on seller reviews, there were many people complaining that they either did not get the item after purchase, or the NFC won't work. Many of the sellers blur/censor out the Sony mark. Not quite sure why, but it makes me think that these are not original items.
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Never had problems on ebay, sometimes on aliexpress. But till now, everytime when the order didn't arrive, i got a full refund without any problem. So i think it worth a try.
Of course when a seller blur out the logo its normally a bad sign and i would look for another dealer.