[Q] Newest version of Lollipop or stick with KitKat? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Given all the initial reported problems with Lollipop, I've stuck with KitKat this whole time.
Now that 5.1.1 is out and it might be looking like Nexus 4 is being abandoned by Google, just wondering whether enough of the kinks have been worked out for me to upgrade, or best to stay put.
Battery life is important to me (as it is to everyone I guess), so if 5.1.1 worsens it I'd rather stick with KitKat
Would value your opinions.

I just went from Lollipop 5.1.1 back to Kit Kat just yesterday. Reason is the camera app is not reliable. If it crashes, you will have to reboot the phone to fix it. Also, occasionally, the phone will not come out of sleep... requires reboot. And I'm still encountering phone issues where I cannot hear the other party during a call, although this problem is not as frequent as I don't make/receive many phone calls.
Because I have kids, the camera app is important and needs to be reliable.
I don't know if these problems are due to conflicts with installed third party apps, but still... none of this sh!t was happening in Kit Kat... and I have the same apps installed.

I went both sides of the river here. KitKat is perfect but, its old.... And I like lollipop even though KitKat is more stable and reliable

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LG G3 D850 CM12 Lollipop nightly review

This morning I decided I couldn't hold back from android 5.0 any longer and the update just couldn't come fast enough (it never can, am I right) so being the average android fanboy I looked toward CyanogenMod. I knew all they had was night lies and that was why I held off so long, but my curiosity gave in and I had to. So I headed over to cyanogen and grabbed my handy dandy .zip . I rebooted to recovery and went through the routine, and it just couldn't go fast enough, in reality it was the fastest flash I've ever done. First cm12, then my gapps. Waited for the phone to reboot blahdeeblahdeeblahhh, went through the upgrade process and BAMMM! 5.0 RIGHT IN MY FACE! First look at this nightly 5.0 and I couldn't get enough. The quadhd has definatley been put in effect and it shows. Everything I've used has been fully functional except updating su binaries (prob lack of support for 5 due to being new). The elegance and speed run perfectly along eachother, and my phone has never been faster. I may be speaking to soon, but this project must be somewhere close to a stable build. I'm currently running 1/21 nightly and i recommend it to others, I have found this ROM safe and will continue updating my phone with nightlies
and leaving feedback, feel free to leave your expierience
I never understood why people think that CM12 is so faster than LG's rom. For me both are blazing fast, CM12 could be even slower because it has longer animations (if we compare on 1x speed both). Speaker quality and volume is really lame on CM12 rom unlike on LG's rom. Only two things I dont like about LG's rom is crap lockscreen (CM12 has best lockscreen ever) and new Lollipop look. Kitkat looks much more elegant than Lollipop which looks childish and cartoonish. I bought G3 after having various Nexus devices with full stock google experience, and I gotta say it's nice to have some integrated useful features. CM12 is still missing many features, won't even think about switching to it right now.
Tomogitarist said:
I never understood why people think that CM12 is so faster than LG's rom. For me both are blazing fast, CM12 could be even slower because it has longer animations (if we compare on 1x speed both). Speaker quality and volume is really lame on CM12 rom unlike on LG's rom. Only two things I dont like about LG's rom is crap lockscreen (CM12 has best lockscreen ever) and new Lollipop look. Kitkat looks much more elegant than Lollipop which looks childish and cartoonish. I bought G3 after having various Nexus devices with full stock google experience, and I gotta say it's nice to have some integrated useful features. CM12 is still missing many features, won't even think about switching to it right now.
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I'm in agreement with speaker volume, I noticed after switching over that my phone wasnt as loud as it had been before. I believe a lot of people believe that the simple look of lolipop is what makes it so elegant, its more laid back. There are a lot of disadvantages with switching over to. If your a quickremote user you quickly miss not having it in cm12.
Long story short, custom ROM'S never be good as official ESPECIALLY for LG G3, you just need to understand that, for some people it's ok but for some don't. All you need is a root and MAYBE a custom kernel. PEACE.
Agreed on sound quality but CyanogenMod has many advantage's
I would argued on sound quality and maybe animations just because they are more much nice in CyanogenMod vs stock ROM. Everything else is just plain better in CyanogenMod. I am experiencing a randomly sound beep for about 1 to 3 seconds and dont know why. I am always on the lastest nightly.
Also I love the fact that I can see thr constants additions or fixes CyanogenMod is doing.
Tomogitarist said:
I never understood why people think that CM12 is so faster than LG's rom. For me both are blazing fast, CM12 could be even slower because it has longer animations (if we compare on 1x speed both). Speaker quality and volume is really lame on CM12 rom unlike on LG's rom. Only two things I dont like about LG's rom is crap lockscreen (CM12 has best lockscreen ever) and new Lollipop look. Kitkat looks much more elegant than Lollipop which looks childish and cartoonish. I bought G3 after having various Nexus devices with full stock google experience, and I gotta say it's nice to have some integrated useful features. CM12 is still missing many features, won't even think about switching to it right now.
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B.s..... aosp is way, way faster. LG stock Rom is laggy as hell
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LastSUper said:
I'm in agreement with speaker volume, I noticed after switching over that my phone wasnt as loud as it had been before. I believe a lot of people believe that the simple look of lolipop is what makes it so elegant, its more laid back. There are a lot of disadvantages with switching over to. If your a quickremote user you quickly miss not having it in cm12.
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You realize that you can use quickremote on aosp right? Check the apps section here for a flashable zip
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You realize that you can use quickremote on aosp right? Check the apps section here for a flashable zip[/QUOTE]
Wonderful news, im happy to hear that quickremote is still a possibility, I tried a apk from the stock ROM but it did not work, I'll hunt down the zip
Nightly 1/22 has slight WiFi issues, everything else remains working as far as I could tell, currently trying a more stable 5.0 ROM, illusion
LastSUper said:
Nightly 1/22 has slight WiFi issues, everything else remains working as far as I could tell, currently trying a more stable 5.0 ROM, illusion
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I had wifi and data issues too on CM12. I could barely get 3G on some places at work.
LastSUper said:
This morning I decided I couldn't hold back from android 5.0 any longer and the update just couldn't come fast enough (it never can, am I right) so being the average android fanboy I looked toward CyanogenMod. I knew all they had was night lies and that was why I held off so long, but my curiosity gave in and I had to. So I headed over to cyanogen and grabbed my handy dandy .zip . I rebooted to recovery and went through the routine, and it just couldn't go fast enough, in reality it was the fastest flash I've ever done. First cm12, then my gapps. Waited for the phone to reboot blahdeeblahdeeblahhh, went through the upgrade process and BAMMM! 5.0 RIGHT IN MY FACE! First look at this nightly 5.0 and I couldn't get enough. The quadhd has definatley been put in effect and it shows. Everything I've used has been fully functional except updating su binaries (prob lack of support for 5 due to being new). The elegance and speed run perfectly along eachother, and my phone has never been faster. I may be speaking to soon, but this project must be somewhere close to a stable build. I'm currently running 1/21 nightly and i recommend it to others, I have found this ROM safe and will continue updating my phone with nightlies
and leaving feedback, feel free to leave your expierience
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It's good to hear that CM12 is coming along. I tried it back when it was "unofficial" and my phone was overheating to the point that it actually scared me. Since then I have moved over to Cloudy G3 (which is based on stock). The Cloudy G3 Rom itself is very quick and with the Android L theme from @Kickoff it has a much nicer look that is closer to the stock android UI. I think I will stick with Cloudy G3. The main reason being that I am able to use ExFAT on my SD card and also the LG camera allows you to save to SD and all of the LG features are there if I want them.
Illusion ROM is extremely stable with a good build team, been using for two days now with NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER! Its the full lollipop experience.
I also moved as soon as CM12 become possible to use for daily use.
Room is incredible fast, every day less and less bugs. With the most of them is possible to live with.
Comparing to ****ty LG's android, i finally have feeling that i have good phone. Lag and terrible quality of official android make me to feel sorry for buying this phone (beside battery).
I reverted back to cm12. Running 1/26 right now and its flawless. DO NOT UPDATE TO 1/27! There are major speed issues and connection problems. Illusion ROM lacked features I enjoyed and there settings menu was a train wreck.
Sent from my LG-D850 using XDA Free mobile app
WARNING
DO NOT UPDATE PAST NIGHTLY 26!!! after nightly 26 almost all connection services such as WiFi and mobile network will not work or work extremely poorly. I have tested all the way up to nightly 29. All the zips are in some way corrupt. They give red code while flashing but proceed anyways (I'm not a proffesional sorry guys haha). Nightly 29 wouldn't even boot without the kernel crashing. Nightly 26 is running almost flawlessly. I hope someone sees this so they can address the problem. I have still not tried nightly 30. I might try sometime later tommorow, I'll continue updating.
Nightly 30 and 31 are working and everything is starting to get polished over. Nightly 31 received a new boot animation darker than before with a nicer ending. Both run very well with no problems noticed so far other than very minor lag between some animations.
Mind that CM12 is in its early Nightlies, issues will be fixed but it will take time.
Well of course, I'm just recording bugs in each nightly so people will have a better idea whether or not they should move to the next nightly
I'm currently considering this rom. Comming from a Nexus 5 I really miss stock Lollipop. The only thing I was wondering is if it was possible to keep the LG Camera App and if the knock code still works? I don't really care about anything else from the official LG rom.
I notice there hasn't been any update recently to this thread. Are you guys still using Cyanogen? How is it comming along.
Thanks.
tenf00t said:
I'm currently considering this rom. Comming from a Nexus 5 I really miss stock Lollipop. The only thing I was wondering is if it was possible to keep the LG Camera App and if the knock code still works? I don't really care about anything else from the official LG rom.
I notice there hasn't been any update recently to this thread. Are you guys still using Cyanogen? How is it comming along.
Thanks.
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the activeness of this thread doesn't determine the stability of a ROM lol. flash CM yourself and find out. if you want your G3 to be as smooth and flawless as your Nexus 5 was on AOSP, over clock your GPU to 580MHz and it'll fix all the lag. you can do this on the stock CM kernel using Trickster Mod kernel tweaker.
also, no LG camera and no knock code. but there is Motorola camera which is really just as great, and there is double tap screen to turn it on.
Sent from my LG G3
another review can be seen here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJC9B0qa2RY

Is Lollipop really worth upgrading to?

So, Samsung finally released Lollipop for just about every Note 4 variant now but, after reading a lot of people suffering from huge battery drain, overheating and random crashes, I'm just wondering if I should bother updating to lollypop myself.
I'm still on stock 4.4.4 (with a fair amount of mods) and my phone runs exactly how I want it to. The only ever problem I have is sometimes contacts crashes, but it's not even done that for about a week.
What are the advantages (if any) of upgrading to lollipop?
Let's see if you can convince me to part with my very stable and perfectly functional modded 4.4.4.
Chillerhippie said:
So, Samsung finally released Lollipop for just about every Note 4 variant now but, after reading a lot of people suffering from huge battery drain, overheating and random crashes, I'm just wondering if I should bother updating to lollypop myself.
I'm still on stock 4.4.4 (with a fair amount of mods) and my phone runs exactly how I want it to. The only ever problem I have is sometimes contacts crashes, but it's not even done that for about a week.
What are the advantages (if any) of upgrading to lollipop?
Let's see if you can convince me to part with my very stable and perfectly functional modded 4.4.4.
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BOC5 works perfectly fine here and is a lot smoother than any KitKat version that I used prior. If you play a lot of games then chances are you might run into the GPU bug, but other than that I see no problems in going with the newest Android version available. :good:
I got N910C. No root.
These are some facts about KK & LP according to my own experience.
KitKat 4.4.4:
Had volume spike answering bug (mentioned somewhere on XDA),
Had read only SD card problem (due to Android restrictions),
Lollipop 5.0.1:
Solved both above mentioned issues of KK,
Faster and smoother than KK,
No crashes, freezes, hickups, overheating - rock stable,
Better RAM management,
Better or equal battery consumption,
Material design (I love it, somebody else may not)
1-2 second answering ''hello hello'' bug (caller can't hear me 1-2 sec. after my answer). I don't know is anybody else has this bug,
GPU throttling bug (when phone reaches about 50 C some games stutter and benchmarks like Antutu show low results due to lower GPU frequencies)
Everything is perfect except this. This should be fixed ASAP in next update.
Be aware of this and consider eventually upgrade to Lollipop
Just in case: lots of shortcut apps (e.g. pulling down the notification bar!) don't work on Samsung's iteration of Lollipop anymore. That's still one of the biggest issues at least for me!
I have updated my UK ee phone to the German BOC3 and I have to say I'm very impressed with it. I have done a dirty flash and I haven't encountered a single issue. My battery life seems better, the system settings feel cleaner and the general visual tweaks and nice. Looking forwards to the btu
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Experience with 5.01 Lollipop Update, i have had no issues with Lollipop
Lp fixed the Bluetooth stuttering bug for playing music in my car via Bluetooth.
The notifications are great and usually appropriate...
No battery crash or menu problems on Bell.
No hello hello bug I have noticed on Bell carrier

How stable is stock?

I am an old time rooter. G1, Vibrant, G2 (what a pain in the ass that was), Nexus 4, OnePlus One. I have rooted them all. My most recent phone the LG G4 I never bothered rooting, I grew tired of fighting with HBO Now, Android pay compatibility.
At this point, I just want battery life and stability in my phone, but I have read here and there that the stock ROM is not all that stable... and LeEco is not on top of the OTA system server so even updating to the "current" version might not happen.
Anyway, I an using my Nexus 4 while I wait for delivery and tried out LinageOS. To my shock it supports Android pay, So I am more inclined to consider flashing ROM's again.
Again Stability and battery-life are my concern. What are people's thoughts on this?
So since I have had about 48 hours with this phone. I think I can safely say stock is fine. Zero crashes, zero lag, great battery life.
I will be just staying with stock for now, but it is nice to know we have an active XDA community I can fall back on if the stock OS pisses me off.
I had stock over 5 months, there are no random crashes.
I'd recommend a modified stock like Turbo's. Removes alot bloat and battery life is great. I'm running his 23mini rom. It's been fantastic.
What is your current version? I was 18s, then manually updates=d to 19s. now trying to get to 20, 21...
I am not getting the auto updates because the ota servers are dead
Using Lineage 14.1 then switch back to stock. Stock has best battery life imo

My Galaxy Grand 2 story

Hey guys. It's been 4 years (almost 5) since i used this phone.
I bought this phone in 2014, it was trending in my country at that time and it was a pretty cool device. It was very big phone when i used it for the first time.
In Jelly bean 4.3 days: Obviously this is the original OS in this phone when you first bought it. It is pretty fast though. And i feel like I am using an s4 since their ui is similar. I never encountered lags since i am not playing games in this device. I am a light user. I only used it for text, calls, selfie and Facebook. Ohh I miss those days.
In KitKat 4.4.2 days: I was expecting a big change in this rom. When i saw the S5 ad, their ui was pretty cool and i always thought it will ship in this device but it did not. Its a little bit dissapointing for me. Until i get used to it.
By the way, i cant tell you the difference of 4.3 and 4.4.2. It only change the status bar icons to white! The performance is the same, the rest, just the same. Until i learned how to use custom roms. But at that time, kitkat custom roms was not very good. So i stayed and be contented in this os.
I expected lollipop on grand 2. Someone said it will happen, until i heard the news that grand 2 will receive lollipop and it is in development. And i was very excited!! I waited for months but sadly, they cancelled the update. So i was very sad.
Lollipop customs were available but im not used to stock android. I tried it but i dont like it in my opinion. Because i used only samsung phones since 2011. Im a touchwiz lover. Even if someone called it lagwiz.
Until aapav developed motion rom and i was very happy that lollipop in grand 2 was actually pretty good!! It was very similar with the S5 lollipop rom so, dream come true!!
So,
In Lollipop 5.1.1 days: I was very happy that this phone can run tw lollipop very well. Everything is working fine. But it got lags already. The camera was not similar with kitkat. I cannot use the 1.9mp on the rom (because it has a camera bug that was not fixed until now and then) the rest, its very okay. It feels like I am using new phone again in 2016. My battery was slightly bad and i need to charge my phone 2 times a day. I used lollipop rom until november 2018.
I saw a post that S5 mini receives marshmallow update so i expected that devs will port tw mm on grand 2. And it actually happened! But it has a lot of bugs and it made my phone not usable.
And I decided to with nougat roms because it became stable so i tried it.
In Nougat 7.1.2: my phone feels different. It was not surprising for me since a stock android (im a lagwiz lover remember) but at least it shows android 7.1.2 haha.
But i encounted a lot of problems. My battery is bad and it overheats my phone. So i stopped using it and went back to kitkat temporarilly.
Thankfully, tw mm development was still alive!! And i was very hyped! I waited days to post the rom. Finally bluetooth was fixed! So i used it. Until now.
Marshmallow 6.0.1 (Now): Similar to motion rom, but without stable cam. The rest is pretty fine. But i like the battery in this rom. It made me charge once a day!
I know its almost 2019 and my Galaxy Grand 2 gets old. But my software experience was still not obsolete for today's standards. Marshmallow is still fine in late 2018. If you ask me how my phone looks, i bought hard case with privacy tempered glass. Pretty cool actually, it makes your phone brand new.
I love my phone. I wont replace it until is really unusable. I cant believe that this phone can handle at least Android 7 even if this is old. Happy Grand 2 user here.
(This is my opinions, software experiences about this device. Please tell me your stories )

Is Android 10 worth it?

Title says it all...is upgrading to Android Q worth it?
Currently running Sky Dragon ROM and the current build I believe is based off Android 9.0.13. I've been so pleased with it I haven't thought about flashing anything else until I saw we got a stable Android Q build.
I've read plenty of threads where users were having issues flashing and just GETTING to Android 10 on the 6t. Nevermind the issues I've seen with people who are on 10 with apps misbehaving, bugs, etc.
Just looking for honest mini reviews of the 6t's latest OOS experience before I embark on the journey of getting there.
So, those of you who have made the jump, is it really worth it?
Thanks in advance!
-Pain
There is no question of worth it or not, Pie support (security especially) is now dropped, you won't have a choice if you want to keep an up-to-date and secure device.
And problems reported only concern a minority a people. And now there is a fully working TWRP for A10.
I'd say it is worth it. There are many new features which make using the phone very convenient. I haven't faced any issues with the ROM itself, just some times magisk prompt won't appear when an app requests root. ROM is stable. Also installed radioactive kernel now its running even better. I clean flashed android 10, it is always better to clean flash such major updates.
In my experience, I have a stock T-Mobile variant, converted to international version. And updated to A10 and didn't last a week without wanting to revert back. All the bugs reported in other threads all happened to me. From random reboots (just twice happened), fingerprint animation staying on after unlock, some lag on the screen when scrolling, the loss of the Play store certification along with the GPay because of this. I just decided to revert back. Downloaded the full wipe downgrade which kind of soft bricked the phone but nothing the MSM tool wouldn't fix and now I'm back on 9.0.17. I'll just wait for a more stable release. For me at least I'd say it's not worth it yet...
I wanna say wait for the official OTA release. I see a lot of people are complaining about issues with the new update. But there are also people who are full satisfied with the update with no issues. If you are using your OP6T as a daily driver I would say wait for a week or two more to see if the new update drops officially and do that.
Definitely worth it. I've had one random slowdown (resolved with a reboot) and a single crash reboot where I got stuck on the boot animation and had to hard boot, but they're the only negatives. There's a bug with the haptic vibration on key presses being stuck on maximum, but the benefits are many - great battery life, apps open much faster, fingerprint reader and general UI responsiveness is much better.
For me it's worth it especially since the baked in swipe to go back into the os, I've been using 3rd party apps for that functionality since early days...
I think it is worth it specially once I figured out how to get root. I don't have twrp installed and not sure I need it. Battery is good and I really like the launcher. No need to install any themes at this point.
EDIT
Just flashed Twrp with Magisk works perfect.

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