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Android fans got an insight into what Android M or Android 5.2/6.0 will be like. Besides learning about features and new integration possibilities, the news about Android M and its development stage immediately sparked rumors about how the final OS will be introduced. There’s no doubt that the Nexus 5 2015, as it is being called in the rumors will be the flagship device to show off Android M.
Indeed, there’s whispers of a neat new duo (or possibly trio) in the form of the upcoming Nexus 5 2015 and Android M.
Although there are still a few months to go until Google reveals the latest and greatest in terms of hardware, possibly in conjunction with LG and Huawei, speculation about the whole affair has only been increasing.
However, Sources did confirm that at least the joint launch of the new Nexus and Android M is a sure thing. But whether the new Nexus will actually be the Nexus 5 2015, with inspiration from the more popular Nexus of them all, is still a bit of a mystery. Anyone’s guess actually.
Aside from Nexus 5 2015 and Android M pairing up, there are rumors about the line-up, too. Apparently, most people expect to see LG making the Nexus 5 2015 and Huawei making the new Nexus tablet. Huawei has been slowly drilling into the American market recently, and if these rumors are true, they might have just found a sure fire way in.
Although specs and designs are definitely not announced or even leaked, most of us do have realistic expectations of the new devices. Apparently, the Nexus 5 2015 will focus on meeting user demands more than doing improvements to lesser requested things. As such, we’ve heard from some developers that the Nexus 5 2015 will not be appealing nor impressive visually, but it will be a powerhouse specifically directed at power users.
Even if the Nexus 6 is an overall awesome device, the big screen was a risk that Google should have postponed to a later date, as the international audience was and maybe still not ready for a 6 inch daily driver. Apparently, the Mountain View giant has learned its lesson and is focusing more on the inside of the phone rather than on the presentation. That being said, the screen size will still increase to the most popular 5.3 inch size, according to our insiders. The resolution will stay at FHD 1080*2560, but there’s a strong possibility of a QHD panel as well. I would vote FHD if Google and LG go for the 5.3 inch format.
The Nexus 5 2015 will most likely come with the Snapdragon 810, stock Android M of course, 3 GB RAM, 64 and 128 GB internal storage, wireless charging, fast charging, USB Type C, an well-improved 16 MP camera with optical image stabilization on the rear and a 5 MP selfie camera with a wide-angle lens on the front. There will also be a fingerprint sensor on the rear of the device, for easy access. One particular individual, close to the engineering team at Google, said that the Nexus 5 2015 will have one major design improvement, in the form of a durable body that will be covered by some sort of resistant carbon fiber. That sounds a bit weird, but designing more durable phones would be a good idea.
The only thing we don’t know much about is whether the Nexus 5 2015 battery will be user removable. That’s one thing people are beginning to love and hating its absence. A removable battery is not only beneficial for when there’s no power source around except a spare battery, but it’s a well-known thing that batteries wear out and die after a year or two. For the people who intend to buy Nexus 5 2015, and keep it as a daily driver for a year and then make it a secondary driver for another 2 years, having a removable battery is crucial.
Consumerism in our society does indicate that your smartphone should be refreshed yearly, but thankfully, many of us know that is not necessary. Software updates are a good way to keep a smartphone future-proof, but so are removable batteries and durable bodies. Whether the Nexus 5 2015 will be suitable for this long-term relationship is once again, anyone’s guess. We sure hope it will be. How about you?
This reads like a clickbait blog.
Nothing to see here folks.
Couple of things;
"The resolution will stay at FHD 1080*2560"
What the hell ever had a resolution of 2560x1080? That resolution doesn't even make sense. Its like 16x6.5. Crazy.
N5/2013 was 1920x1080.
N6 is 2560x1440.
Second part of it that is entirely *insane* is...
"will most likely come with the Snapdragon 810".
Since when has a Nexus *EVER* shipped with "last year's" SoC?
The ONLY chip they can use that won't result in a DEAD DUCK will be the Snapdragon 820;
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/06/29/snapdragon-820-benchmark-annihilates-competition/
doitright said:
Couple of things;
"The resolution will stay at FHD 1080*2560"
What the hell ever had a resolution of 2560x1080? That resolution doesn't even make sense. Its like 16x6.5. Crazy.
N5/2013 was 1920x1080.
N6 is 2560x1440.
Second part of it that is entirely *insane* is...
"will most likely come with the Snapdragon 810".
Since when has a Nexus *EVER* shipped with "last year's" SoC?
The ONLY chip they can use that won't result in a DEAD DUCK will be the Snapdragon 820;
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/06/29/snapdragon-820-benchmark-annihilates-competition/
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Your reading into an article that has no facts to back it up. The phone hasn't been announced, hell no one knows if we're getting 2 nexus or one and what it's going to be.
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Smallsmx3 said:
Your reading into an article that has no facts to back it up. The phone hasn't been announced, hell no one knows if we're getting 2 nexus or one and what it's going to be.
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Exactly.
This is just another of countless blogs out of india that just regurgitate various rumors that have already been around for a while but have no confirmation, and in this case, no sources.
doitright said:
Couple of things;
"The resolution will stay at FHD 1080*2560"
What the hell ever had a resolution of 2560x1080? That resolution doesn't even make sense. Its like 16x6.5. Crazy.
N5/2013 was 1920x1080.
N6 is 2560x1440.
Second part of it that is entirely *insane* is...
"will most likely come with the Snapdragon 810".
Since when has a Nexus *EVER* shipped with "last year's" SoC?
The ONLY chip they can use that won't result in a DEAD DUCK will be the Snapdragon 820;
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/06/29/snapdragon-820-benchmark-annihilates-competition/
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820 most likely won't be ready...
Past rumours has said 810 Huawei and 808 LG
Articles click bait anyway, its obvious itll launch with Android M
King p1n said:
820 most likely won't be ready...
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Considering that the chip is already hitting benchmarks (with insanely good single threaded performance numbers)... why would you assume that?
Past rumours has said 810 Huawei and 808 LG
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If they use those, the device will be dead.
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Smallsmx3 said:
Your reading into an article that has no facts to back it up. The phone hasn't been announced, hell no one knows if we're getting 2 nexus or one and what it's going to be.
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Think harder.
IM MAKING FUN OF THAT "ARTICLE".
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Considering that the chip is already hitting benchmarks (with insanely good single threaded performance numbers)... why would you assume that?
If they use those, the device will be dead.
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Think harder.
IM MAKING FUN OF THAT "ARTICLE".
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Because its too early.
I wouldn't expect the 820 to actual be seen in devices until q1 2015 or December if your lucky.
They're not dead tbh, as pretty much majority of the phones will use 810/808 this fall too.
All im saying is if you expect the 820 your likely to be very disappointed. 810/808 is much more believable.
King p1n said:
Because its too early.
I wouldn't expect the 820 to actual be seen in devices until q1 2015 or December if your lucky.
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q1 2015 has come and gone.
And like I mentioned, its already in the hands of OEMs.
So it makes no sense to suggest that its too early.
They're not dead tbh, as pretty much majority of the phones will use 810/808 this fall too.
All im saying is if you expect the 820 your likely to be very disappointed. 810/808 is much more believable.
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808/810 is last years tech already. Anybody who wanted something with one of those chips already bought one, hence dead.
I wouldn't even consider a device with one of those. If there's a Nexus with 820? Then we might be going for an upgrade for the wife's N5. Less than 820 and there's no point.
doitright said:
q1 2015 has come and gone.
And like I mentioned, its already in the hands of OEMs.
So it makes no sense to suggest that its too early.
808/810 is last years tech already. Anybody who wanted something with one of those chips already bought one, hence dead.
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Q1 2016 you know what I mean.
How do you know? And even if it is, its only Sampling. Which takes several months. How does it make no sense?
Fine its okay if you believe it will but 810/808 is much more likely.
Well revisit this in a few months, I'm confident itll be correct as per Androidpolices source.
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King p1n said:
Q1 2016 you know what I mean.
How do you know?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragon_820_benchmarked_close_to_exynos_7420_performance-news-12837.php
(worth pointing out that multithreaded performance is tougher to get in terms of software, and more dependent on ability to dissipate heat, but since this unit would be running on a work bench, its heat dissipation will be chip-to-air rather than being able to soak into a phone)
And even if it is, its only Sampling. Which takes several months.
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Several months from whenever it started, so ready to ship... ANY time.
Fine its okay if you believe it will but 810/808 is much more likely.
Well revisit this in a few months, I'm confident itll be correct as per Androidpolices source.
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It doesn't matter unless they want to actually sell phones this year. No *POINT* in selling phones with 808/810. But people do things that make no sense all the time, so whatever happens, happens.
doitright said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragon_820_benchmarked_close_to_exynos_7420_performance-news-12837.php
(worth pointing out that multithreaded performance is tougher to get in terms of software, and more dependent on ability to dissipate heat, but since this unit would be running on a work bench, its heat dissipation will be chip-to-air rather than being able to soak into a phone)
Several months from whenever it started, so ready to ship... ANY time.
It doesn't matter unless they want to actually sell phones this year. No *POINT* in selling phones with 808/810. But people do things that make no sense all the time, so whatever happens, happens.
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Sampling does not = ready to ship.
doitright said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragon_820_benchmarked_close_to_exynos_7420_performance-news-12837.php
(worth pointing out that multithreaded performance is tougher to get in terms of software, and more dependent on ability to dissipate heat, but since this unit would be running on a work bench, its heat dissipation will be chip-to-air rather than being able to soak into a phone)
Several months from whenever it started, so ready to ship... ANY time.
It doesn't matter unless they want to actually sell phones this year. No *POINT* in selling phones with 808/810. But people do things that make no sense all the time, so whatever happens, happens.
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Sampling does not = ready to ship.
It's a process to gather feedback etc.
As doesn't benchmarks...810 appeared in benchmarks around this time last year and wasn't found in devices until Q1 2015.
As I said we will revisit.
I'd say 810, it takes awhile for these silicone manufacturers to build up production levels on a new chip to the point where they can actually start releasing them for supply.
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IMO and unfortunately I'll think they will go for the 810 v2.1. It was hyped about a few weeks ago which suggest there is life in it yet. Plus there is a good chance the phones are already being or produced or v. Soon. Don't think the 820 quite there yet. However this is all part of the fun lol.
We shall see!
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I don't know. All four mainstream phones with the 805 like ours were released in October/November 2014. So, sitting back in July last year, we may have been saying the same thing about a phone using the 805 as folks here are saying about a phone using the 820. I think the Droid turbo actually hit a few weeks before the N6, but its not like the N6 used a chip that had been our for months and months.
I know the leaks say at least one of the rumored phones is using the 810, but at one point there were leaks that said all GS4's were going to use an Exynos SoC.
doitright said:
q1 2015 has come and gone.
And like I mentioned, its already in the hands of OEMs.
So it makes no sense to suggest that its too early.
808/810 is last years tech already. Anybody who wanted something with one of those chips already bought one, hence dead.
I wouldn't even consider a device with one of those. If there's a Nexus with 820? Then we might be going for an upgrade for the wife's N5. Less than 820 and there's no point.
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As I said its too early.
Nexus won't have 820 nor will any 2015 devices.
Qualcomm confirms.
Nexus
doitright said:
q1 2015 has come and gone.
And like I mentioned, its already in the hands of OEMs.
So it makes no sense to suggest that its too early.
808/810 is last years tech already. Anybody who wanted something with one of those chips already bought one, hence dead.
I wouldn't even consider a device with one of those. If there's a Nexus with 820? Then we might be going for an upgrade for the wife's N5. Less than 820 and there's no point.
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As I said its too early.
Nexus won't have 820 nor will any 2015 devices.
Qualcomm confirms.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...s-snapdragon-820-devices-wont-come-until-2016
King p1n said:
As I said its too early.
Nexus won't have 820 nor will any 2015 devices.
Qualcomm confirms.
Nexus
As I said its too early.
Nexus won't have 820 nor will any 2015 devices.
Qualcomm confirms.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...s-snapdragon-820-devices-wont-come-until-2016
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What's your point? Why bring back old topics?
Too bad if the 820 is that late, means that 2015 nexus phones will be pointless.
doitright said:
What's your point? Why bring back old topics?
Too bad if the 820 is that late, means that 2015 nexus phones will be pointless.
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Old topics lol, last post was less than a month ago lmao.
And as I told you we will revisit the topic as you claimed it wasn't too early and I said it was I just wanted to confirm that it was and that was right????
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As, I approach my upgrade time. I am pondering my options... and wondering what others are thinking.
When I first read about this phone model (the upcoming Incredible 4g), I was not not especially impressed. But with more leaked info, I wonder is this actually my ideal (or very near ideal) phone.
1. It supposedly will have the S4 Krait processor. This is an upgrade over anything currently on Verizon. I didn't realize that it was going to get this processor. If it doesn't have this processor, then I really don't have any interest. I thought the Incredible 4g was just a smaller Rezound. I was wrong. This processor is an improvement over phones like the Rezound and G Nexus.
2. I have not liked the idea of the newer phones eliminating the SD card. This phone will have a SD card slot... plus 8 gigs internal.
3. It will have a removable battery, another thing that myself and many others have not liked about other new models coming out. I have managed to get excellent life out of my stock Dinc1 battery... but I've always been happy to know that there are bigger replacements available if I wanted them... or if the stock battery were to get weak with age.
4. I am torn by the manufacturers making screens bigger and bigger on phones (and with greater and greater numbers of pixels to control and illuminate). Those screens sure look nice... but I'm not crazy about how much power they use. The Incredible 4g has a qHD 4" screen, so it should look nice enough, and not use that much juice (compared to the 720p phones with 4.7" screens). Also importantly to me, it will be comfortable to stick in my pockets. I just don't watch movies or TV shows on my phone. Yeah, I've done it, just to do it. But, I've got more comfortable options... like our couch and plasma TV (or even our computers).
5. Integrated LTE on the chip? 4g speeds... less battery usage than current 4g phones... thaz awesome...
6. 1gig RAM... same as everything else out there...
7. Nice enough camera (same as ONE series)... Beats (meh whatever)... etc...
8. I do play games, to kill time on my phone, but I often tend to prefer the casual type puzzle games. High performance gaming isn't especially important to me, but still this phone should be nicely capable of playing most games very well.
I know this phone does not follow the "slim and sexy" trend that is happening in phone fashion. I just wonder if I am the only weirdo "anti-fashion" person out there. Plus it looks to be reasonably priced. Anybody else think this phone looks preferable than the other new options coming?
And most importantly... anybody think this phone will get good developer support? Just wondering how others view this phone...
I also approach my upgrade time (I think its in June) and as it approaches I'm paying more attention to what's out there. This new incredible seems to hit all the right spots. The only thing I wish it had wad a 720p screen. Qhd certainly isn't a deal breaker though.
I'm eagerly awaiting the announcement of the Incredible 4G. However I'm also waiting to see what the Galaxy S3 has to offer. I may end up waiting a little longer for that. I dont mind morw waiting as I love my incredible and its simply the best phone I've ever owned.
If my incredible broke today and I was offered an early upgrade id probably opt for a Razr Maxx.
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Div033 said:
I also approach my upgrade time (I think its in June) and as it approaches I'm paying more attention to what's out there. This new incredible seems to hit all the right spots. The only thing I wish it had wad a 720p screen. Qhd certainly isn't a deal breaker though.
I'm eagerly awaiting the announcement of the Incredible 4G. However I'm also waiting to see what the Galaxy S3 has to offer. I may end up waiting a little longer for that. I dont mind morw waiting as I love my incredible and its simply the best phone I've ever owned.
If my incredible broke today and I was offered an early upgrade id probably opt for a Razr Maxx.
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Does the early upgrade cost more ?
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Alton (Halo 2) said:
Does the early upgrade cost more ?
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Can't tell ya. I've never been offered one!
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Does the early upgrade cost more ?
not exactly. early upgrade is an incentive.
verizon emailed me an early upgrade offer for 50 bucks off any new phone last week...
and today snail mailed me an offer for 100 dollars off.
they just want you contracting another 2 years... thats where the real money is at.
My upgrade was up the first of April, and I watched it go by. Honestly, for what I really do with the phone it just didn't make sense to drop the coin on something new that would meet or exceed some of my expectations but let me down in others.
One of the biggest drawbacks to most of these phones coming out (IMO....) is the size of em. Damn, if I wanted an Ipad, I'd buy the dang thing.... These new phones look beautiful but having to wear a hubcap around my waist because it won't fit in my pockets anymore, I just don't dig.
I have been so pleased with the first gen INC that when I heard the INC 4g was coming out, and the screen size, man, I said that's the ticket, faster, and still good size, removable batt, sd card, I'm in, I'm all in......
You raise a very good argument on the OP. The only thing I would need is a guarantee that Devs will get CM9 running on it. My Dinc right now is perfect with CM9.
Not sure how many Inc devs can or will get the Inc 4g due to all getting the rezound. And there's no guarantee of anything before its done. Most likely it will get cm9 but don't quote me on that.
And ics, while OK on the Inc is far from perfect. Camcorder and video don't work 100% on cm9. One of the reasons I got the nexus is to have the best initial support with ICS working smooth without any complex porting.
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I'm glad to see some people with something positive to say about this phone. There has been a lot of bad reaction out there for what ever reason. I suspect its people just not understanding about the processor. I've got an upgrade on the 25th, and this thing is supposed to hit the 26th. I'm pretty excited.
I'll probably use it the first month pretty much stock, and then start branching out as things become available. Also looking forward to CM9. I may keep a recovery around to play with and one for actual use with 100% function. If it doesn't come with a 32 gb class 10 sd card, that will be my first upgrade to it. Hoping they pack a nice battery in it.
I think as a OneS variant, there won't be too much difficulty finding devs to take interest.
dezignstuff said:
I'm glad to see some people with something positive to say about this phone. There has been a lot of bad reaction out there for what ever reason. I suspect its people just not understanding about the processor. I've got an upgrade on the 25th, and this thing is supposed to hit the 26th. I'm pretty excited.
I'll probably use it the first month pretty much stock, and then start branching out as things become available. Also looking forward to CM9. I may keep a recovery around to play with and one for actual use with 100% function. If it doesn't come with a 32 gb class 10 sd card, that will be my first upgrade to it. Hoping they pack a nice battery in it.
I think as a OneS variant, there won't be too much difficulty finding devs to take interest.
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Well we have 4 days til launch, almost 3, and we've received no word of demo units coming in. So unless they come in tomorrow, I'm doubting that April 26th launch. Perhaps that's when the demo units are coming in? I believe the leaked documents did say "Device workshop" on April 26th.(Although I'm not all too sure what that is). It definitely should be coming within the next two weeks if it misses that release date though.
This phone will certainly be the perfect phone for me when it comes out, if the rumored specs are true. Really hoping this phone gets good dev support too.
We've been discussing the Incredible 4G for a while over in this thread, and I'll repeat my overall opinion here: When this phone comes out it will be hands-down the best phone available on Verizon. All of the websites out there that call it mid-range are out of their minds.
Here are some thoughts I have on some of the OP's points:
iowabeakster said:
I thought the Incredible 4g was just a smaller Rezound. I was wrong. This processor is an improvement over phones like the Rezound and G Nexus.
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The processor is not the only improvement over the Rezound... there are so many more. The only reason people compare this phone to the Rezound is the aesthetic similarity. That's really the only thing these two phones have in common.
iowabeakster said:
It will have a removable battery
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That is likely, but not a given. Early reports were able to 100% confirm some things like "yes, it has a microSD slot." Those reports didn't come right out and say that the battery is removable though. But, they did say that the backplates are interchangeable, which is a good indication that we'll have battery access
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Nice enough camera (same as ONE series)
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The camera on the One series (and very very likely this phone too) is much better than "Nice enough". It is amazing. Engadget called the One S "the best Android cameraphone we've seen yet"
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I know this phone does not follow the "slim and sexy" trend that is happening in phone fashion.
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It certainly wont be sexy... it's an Incredible. Have you seen these things?
That said, it will be slim and light. Probably not as much as the One S (because this one needs LTE and the One S probably has a little more room to stuff things because of the bigger screen), but the initial reports are that it is very thin and light.
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Anybody else think this phone looks preferable than the other new options coming?
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On Verizon, absolutely. There is nothing better. That is, as long as you are cool with the smaller screen size
The only reason not to get it is the screen size... A lot of people have been begging for a high-end 4" phone, and now they finally have one. That said, some people just "need" those mammoth 4.5+" screens. If you're one of the latter, then this phone is probably not the best bet.
For everyone else though, this will be the best phone you can get when it comes out... and the price is looking like it will cost less than the original incredible did at release, which is a bonus
the qHD resolution
Specs were leaked today on the droiddoes website. Phone will cost $299 with a contract.
1.2GHz dual-core processor
1GB RAM
Sense 4.0
4-inch Super LCD display at qHD resolution
Storage: 8 gigabytes internal, up to 32GB microSD card
Beats Audio
Pandora
Slacker Radio
8-megapixel rear-facing camera with flash
VGA front-facing camera
4G LTE hotspot
4-inch display
Size: 2.4 x 4.8 x 0.46 inchces
Weight: 4.66 ounces
Battery: 1700 mAh
Any word if the processor is the s4? I hate they were so vague with it
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Any word if the processor is the s4? I hate they were so vague with it
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It has to. There's no way they would release it without the S4 (at least, not for more than like 50 bucks)
Sidenote: I'm a bit bummed by the price. I never really believed the "$100 or $150" rumors, but I was hoping that Verizon would stop the $299 madness and go back to $199 that used to be the standard (and is becoming the standard again on other carriers... look at the new Evo for example)
Althought... the site was never really intended to go live... so maybe they just copied a template and hadn't actually finished with it... i.e. hadn't fixed the price yet.
And for anyone who wants to see the leak itsmefu was talking about...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/23/htc-droid-incredible-4g-lte/
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I hope that price is wrong like you said, I won't pay $330 for that phone. I would rather wait a while and get it a lot cheaper.
demarcmj said:
It has to. There's no way they would release it without the S4 (at least, not for more than like 50 bucks)
Sidenote: I'm a bit bummed by the price. I never really believed the "$100 or $150" rumors, but I was hoping that Verizon would stop the $299 madness and go back to $199 that used to be the standard (and is becoming the standard again on other carriers... look at the new Evo for example)
Althought... the site was never really intended to go live... so maybe they just copied a template and hadn't actually finished with it... i.e. hadn't fixed the price yet.
And for anyone who wants to see the leak itsmefu was talking about...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/23/htc-droid-incredible-4g-lte/
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Despite that leaked page using the Moto template with all the "Droid" branding, I was happy to see that other sources indicate HTC/Verizon have dropped the "Droid" name from the new Inc
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Despite that leaked page using the Moto template with all the "Droid" branding, I was happy to see that other sources indicate HTC/Verizon have dropped the "Droid" name from the new Inc
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What other sources?
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What other sources?
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I remember reading something yesterday but on searching again it appears they were basing that off of photos of device, and my "Droid" Inc doesn't actually have that name anywhere on it either. So nevermind that rumor for now. This link has the photos without the baseless speculation
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I remember reading something yesterday but on searching again it appears they were basing that off of photos of device, and my "Droid" Inc doesn't actually have that name anywhere on it either. So nevermind that rumor for now. This link has the photos without the baseless speculation
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Oh, lol. Yea, I don't think even the Motoroloas actually put "Droid" on the device.
Thanks for the additional info demarcmj. I certainly am not any authority on this phone. If anything I said was untrue, it was unintentional. Mostly I was expressing my opinions about the phone specs, just for myself, and they way I would use it.
I'm glad you shared your thoughts and could bring better detailed info.
For example: The comment about the "nice enough" camera was a little tongue in cheek. It is an excellent camera, for a phone camera. I've got other gear for taking pictures. For me, the camera on my Dinc1 is "nice enough". I really only use it for scanning QR codes.
I'm pretty bummed about the $299 price tag, too. The One X is on ATT for $199.
The Incredible 4g (with its non-HD screen) is not going to sell many units at $299. That is craziness, Verizon.
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What do you guys think of the new Chinese phone that supports USA carriers?
You can view the specs here:
http://en.oppo.com/product/find5/
http://www.oppousa.com/
It's about the size of the Droid DNA, but better. I'm actually thinking of getting this. Doesn't have SD Card but has 16GB and 32GB Version! Great price, and a premium product.
Bad thing is......you have to buy it via western union and/or wire transfer. They do accept Paypal over $300. They sent me this:
For avoid credit card fraud,we don't accept payments for product 300$ or more by Paypal or by credit cards. payments for product 300$ or more must be paid by bank transfer or Western Union MoneyGram. For more information,please visit : http://www.fastcardtech.com/article-9-Payment+Methods.html
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Interesting phone! Looks sorta like a Optimus L9.
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Interesting phone! Looks sorta like a Optimus L9.
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Yeah it does! But the renders of this makes the phone looks huge when in reality its about the size of the DNA. I can't wait till Next Wednesday when they talk about it at one of the Beijing events.
It indeed has an SD slot and MHL, and everything else you would need) http://opposj.zol.com.cn/163/1673_1620749.html
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Also as far as I checked fastcardtech.com is a FRAUD. I would not recommend anyone to use them. It's better to wait for a decent US release and find a relative in Sales TAX Free state OR use some well known taobao middlemen.
looks good on the paper
Looks good on the paper. 1080p for a phone is an overkill if you ask me with today's battery technology. I bet this phone has major draws.
I would consider it if the power button were on the side, I almost never use two hands with my phone and this would annoy me to no end.
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The only thing which bothers me, as a previous Tab 7.7 owner, the lack of software support, I may even sacrifice some hardware stuff for better official or xda community support potential. As far as I see it now the DNA, a major brand product, is nowhere near the Nexus devices in all the development and ROM hacking fuss. Oppo is moving to the global market, thus the good software support is implied but yet to be confirmed.
Actually, the size of the OPPO Find 5 is nowhere near the gargantuan HTC DNA despite sporting the same size screen thanks to an edge-to-edge screen and minimal wasted space at the top and bottom:
HTC DNA: 141 x 70.5 x 9.7 mm (5.55 x 2.78 x 0.38 in)
Oppo Find 5: 129 x 65 x 6.9 mm (5.08 x 2.56 x 0.27 in) <---smaller than HTC One S
The key here is the middle number, at 65 mm wide, it will be VERY easy to do one handed operations. This is a huge HUGE attraction for me as I'm sick of all these phlabets/phlaptops that HTC, Samsung, LG, and others are producing. Increasing screen size is one thing, but the phones are getting so enormous that it becomes very uncomfortable to use. It's ridiculous.
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It indeed has an SD slot and MHL, and everything else you would need) http://opposj.zol.com.cn/163/1673_1620749.html
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Also as far as I checked fastcardtech.com is a FRAUD. I would not recommend anyone to use them. It's better to wait for a decent US release and find a relative in Sales TAX Free state OR use some well known taobao middlemen.
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Yess!! The 12th of December!!! I'm excited for that. And thanks for clearing that up, I kind of figured but it's good to have a second opinion.
cocinci said:
Looks good on the paper. 1080p for a phone is an overkill if you ask me with today's battery technology. I bet this phone has major draws.
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2500 MaH on a IPS display....it's really on how much you use your phone, because IPS is good on battery consumption, I think.
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I would consider it if the power button were on the side, I almost never use two hands with my phone and this would annoy me to no end.
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Just rechecked photo's, and well I don't find it a big deal. I've used the HD2, LG G2x, and HTC Sensation so if I get this phone it wouldn't be a big change.
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The only thing which bothers me, as a previous Tab 7.7 owner, the lack of software support, I may even sacrifice some hardware stuff for better official or xda community support potential. As far as I see it now the DNA, a major brand product, is nowhere near the Nexus devices in all the development and ROM hacking fuss. Oppo is moving to the global market, thus the good software support is implied but yet to be confirmed.
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Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Since this phone is supporting US Carriers with a breeze, will there be XDA Dev willing to work on this phone? That would also be a plus when getting this pone.
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Actually, the size of the OPPO Find 5 is nowhere near the gargantuan HTC DNA despite sporting the same size screen thanks to an edge-to-edge screen and minimal wasted space at the top and bottom:
HTC DNA: 141 x 70.5 x 9.7 mm (5.55 x 2.78 x 0.38 in)
Oppo Find 5: 129 x 65 x 6.9 mm (5.08 x 2.56 x 0.27 in) <---smaller than HTC One S
The key here is the middle number, at 65 mm wide, it will be VERY easy to do one handed operations. This is a huge HUGE attraction for me as I'm sick of all these phlabets/phlaptops that HTC, Samsung, LG, and others are producing. Increasing screen size is one thing, but the phones are getting so enormous that it becomes very uncomfortable to use. It's ridiculous.
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Whoaahh! Didn't know it was smaller than the OneS! But I knew it was about the size of the DNA. Thanks for doing the conversion!!
The thing I hate, and the LG G2x/O2x did this, was the hardware keys. Why so big? But your right, phones are getting bigger, and bigger is only good for people with big hands. Medium size hands like phones in the range of 4 - 4.7 inches. The DNA did it right by making it longer instead of wider, and I'm glad Oppo is understanding that. Hopefully the S4 and new upcoming phones get it. Keep the big phone size to the Note's.
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It indeed has an SD slot and MHL, and everything else you would need) http://opposj.zol.com.cn/163/1673_1620749.html
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These specs are for a different phone mate.. it clearly states that it refers to a 4.5 inch phone with 720p screen... The dimensions are still impressive to be sure but nowhere near to what a 5 inch would be if they were able to fit it in just 65mm of width. It would imply a total absence of bezel as in *nil*, I don't think such a tech exists yet, true edge to edge is a decade away I'm afraid. I'd be happy to be proved wrong though...
BTW same applies on the existence of micro SD slot, it probably doesn't have one, at least the company doesn't hint that anywhere (sadly microsd slots seem to go the way of the dodo)...
So to recap, "hold on your horses", it'd probably be a thinner slightly cheaper DNA and given that it is a chinaphone I don't think many would be convinced... it's a good offering to be sure but nothing groundbreaking... again I hope to be proved wrong, if I do I would be the first in line to buy this phone (hate phablet sizes, love big screens and big memories)...
I updated the OP. It does not have SD Card but has 16GB and 32GB version! I am thinking of getting this phone
best alternative to nexus 4(?
PontiacGTX said:
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DEFIANTLY!! The best alternative!! But if you're on AT&T, sorry no LTE
Best? I wouldn't say that at all.
I'm sure from a development state, this device will be lacking heavily. And anything non pure Google.....goog luck with the manufactures keeping you up to date.
Sounds like a sweet device, but it'd still take my gs3 over this all day long.
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Best? I wouldn't say that at all.
I'm sure from a development state, this device will be lacking heavily. And anything non pure Google.....goog luck with the manufactures keeping you up to date.
Sounds like a sweet device, but it'd still take my gs3 over this all day long.
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Well, well my friend, assuming is not good. If you go to oppo's forum they are very well up to date, and current than GS3. They are pure google with little customization to not run it down. Idk about Samsung but 4.2 on Oppo devices are coming in Mid Jan. ALSO I don't know about when a new version of android is coming about but when it does Oppo will surely have it out in 2-3 months tops.
So from a development state, Samsung lacks it heavily, and Samsung lacks pure google. Good luck waiting years on Samsung getting you updates that takes years to update
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Well, well my friend, assuming is not good. If you go to oppo's forum they are very well up to date, and current than GS3. They are pure google with little customization to not run it down. Idk about Samsung but 4.2 on Oppo devices are coming in Mid Jan. ALSO I don't know about when a new version of android is coming about but when it does Oppo will surely have it out in 2-3 months tops.
So from a development state, Samsung lacks it heavily, and Samsung lacks pure google. Good luck waiting years on Samsung getting you updates that takes years to update
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My Verizon galaxy s3 is on 4.2 cm.
I've never had a issue having lots of roms top choose from south any Samsung devices I've had.
I'm saying is I'm not sure the oppo week have much of a following here in the states, if it does it will never have the backing that my gs3 does.
You cannot deny that.
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My Verizon galaxy s3 is on 4.2 cm.
I've never had a issue having lots of roms top choose from south any Samsung devices I've had.
I'm saying is I'm not sure the oppo week have much of a following here in the states, if it does it will never have the backing that my gs3 does.
You cannot deny that.
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This is actually the first Oppo device heading to the United States support T-Mobile, AT&T, and Simple Mobile. It won't get the over rated advertisement like the GS3, but it is definitely a better phone, in my opinion. Official Software updates, better camera, fast, premium product, NFC.
I have nothing against the GS3 besides the width of it, and the material of the phone is plastic. Otherwise its a great phone. But hopefully XDA will have some ROM support on this phone as its coming to the United States.
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This is actually the first Oppo device heading to the United States support T-Mobile, AT&T, and Simple Mobile. It won't get the over rated advertisement like the GS3, but it is definitely a better phone, in my opinion. Official Software updates, better camera, fast, premium product, NFC.
I have nothing against the GS3 besides the width of it, and the material of the phone is plastic. Otherwise its a great phone. But hopefully XDA will have some ROM support on this phone as its coming to the United States.
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Yes a nicer material would be nice, but we all seem to use cases made out of the same material to protect our investment.....so no need to waste extra money on finer materials to cover them up. Nice materials such as glass/aluminum are not add strong or resilient to damage.
I also am not bashing the oppo, seems like a nice phone and the more high end devices, we all win. I'm an android guy, I'm not band stuck, however I'm drawn to Samsung's...HTC is also nice, but on big red they haven't brought anything to the table I would rather have than my gs3. That being said if Verizon would have had the one x I'm not sure which way I would have gone......really nice phone!
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Yes a nicer material would be nice, but we all seem to use cases made out of the same material to protect our investment.....so no need to waste extra money on finer materials to cover them up. Nice materials such as glass/aluminum are not add strong or resilient to damage.
I also am not bashing the oppo, seems like a nice phone and the more high end devices, we all win. I'm an android guy, I'm not band stuck, however I'm drawn to Samsung's...HTC is also nice, but on big red they haven't brought anything to the table I would rather have than my gs3. That being said if Verizon would have had the one x I'm not sure which way I would have gone......really nice phone!
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You made a good point about protecting the investment. But we're just gonna have to wait and see how this Chinese phone makes a impact on how the US will accept this
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I really don't understand this.
If this is true, Z3 will actually be Z2
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http://evleaks.at/2014/07/23/sony-x...-330-5-15-1080p-3gb16gb-20-7mp2-1mp-kk-4-4-4/
Sony....sony....What's happening...
We won't buy new (same) device just for new firmware..
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It seems like people tend to forget things that aren't specs! I think the current processors are fast enough, and the updates are minor (SD800 vs SD801), so we should wait for 64-bit to see a jump perfomance wise.
The recent picture leaks reveal new speaker design and more rounded edges on the phone. The screen could be better calibrated. Perhaps better resistance to heat aka longer 4k recording. I think there's quite a bit to work on. Wireless charging?
And we should take in concideration that the Z2 came out some 6 months ago!
May be Z2 will has unique features or better camera sensor or better build quality.
And maybe a higher mp front facing camera.
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Of you ask me - that's not enough to call it Z3 but OK...we'll see.
BTW, I think we don't have to wait 808 or 810, S805 will be and would be something you will expect now.
Sony built Z1 with new 800, then they built Z2 with overclocked 800 - S801... What now, they will overclock overclocked 800!?!
They, obviously can't follow 6 months cycle...
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It seems like people tend to forget things that aren't specs! I think the current processors are fast enough, and the updates are minor (SD800 vs SD801), so we should wait for 64-bit to see a jump perfomance wise.
The recent picture leaks reveal new speaker design and more rounded edges on the phone. The screen could be better calibrated. Perhaps better resistance to heat aka longer 4k recording. I think there's quite a bit to work on. Wireless charging?
And we should take in concideration that the Z2 came out some 6 months ago!
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i agree there is a lot that could be better on the Z2/Z1 -- it seems that Sony is edging towards a perfect iteration of Xperia Omnibalance. the issue is that the Z3 is really what the Z1 should have been!
also hoping that there will be better speakers (but judging from the size of those speaker holes, not holding my breath), better heat dissipation for 4K, and less chance of self-cracking glass. better camera algorithms for HDR, 20MP automatic, etc.
wireless charging? that would be cool, but i'd rather see Sony get a magnetic charging port that doesn't fall out.
SD805 would have been expected, so that's disappointing. but maybe 32GB/64GB variants?
bjornops said:
It seems like people tend to forget things that aren't specs! I think the current processors are fast enough, and the updates are minor (SD800 vs SD801), so we should wait for 64-bit to see a jump perfomance wise.
The recent picture leaks reveal new speaker design and more rounded edges on the phone. The screen could be better calibrated. Perhaps better resistance to heat aka longer 4k recording. I think there's quite a bit to work on. Wireless charging?
And we should take in concideration that the Z2 came out some 6 months ago!
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64-bit performance will be negligible FYI; it's unnecessary for mobile products. Just as a QHD screen is on a ~5 inch device....
seh6183 said:
64-bit performance will be negligible FYI; it's unnecessary for mobile products. Just as a QHD screen is on a ~5 inch device....
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The first iteration might not improve the performance much, but it will continue to get better.
Calling it unnecessary for mobile products is making the same mistake as an IBM Senior Engineer did back in '68.
He said "Yeah, microchips, but what... is it good for?", and as you can see microchips are good for plenty of stuff.
Or another example of the same mistake is Ken Olson, President of Digital Equipment Corp, 1977 whom said "There is no reason anyone in the right state of mind will want a computer in their home."
There is always a reason to make better, cheaper, faster and more mobile computers.
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Oh, I just noticed you have an iPhone 4, that's why you are ignorant.
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The first iteration might not improve the performance much, but it will continue to get better.
Calling it unnecessary for mobile products is making the same mistake as an IBM Senior Engineer did back in '68.
He said "Yeah, microchips, but what... is it good for?", and as you can see microchips are good for plenty of stuff.
Or another example of the same mistake is Ken Olson, President of Digital Equipment Corp, 1977 whom said "There is no reason anyone in the right state of mind will want a computer in their home."
There is always a reason to make better, cheaper, faster and more mobile computers.
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Oh, I just noticed you have an iPhone 4, that's why you are ignorant.
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Your comparisons are so unrelated to the topic at hand that it just blows my mind. You literally just fried my brain with your nonsense.You should have used some car references in there as well to drive your excellent and well thought out point home. If you new a single thing about 64 bit architecture, which you clearly don't, you would know that 64 bit even for computers is questionable.
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Your comparisons are so unrelated to the topic at hand that it just blows my mind. You literally just fried my brain with your nonsense.You should have used some car references in there as well to drive your excellent and well thought out point home. If you new a single thing about 64 bit architecture, which you clearly don't, you would know that 64 bit even for computers is questionable.
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If YOU knew a single thing about anything you would know that 64 bit is undeniably better than 32 bit.. Please, just stop, you are making yourself look really really stupid.
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If YOU knew a single thing about anything you would know that 64 bit is undeniably better than 32 bit.. Please, just stop, you are making yourself look really really stupid.
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Lol
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Lol
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64 bit SoC's will allow more than 3gb RAM in a phone too, that's probably the more realistic benefit at the minute (IMHO).
This makes me happy. Now I can hold on to my Z2 longer without thinking it's an obsolete piece of ****.
bryanhayn said:
This makes me happy. Now I can hold on to my Z2 longer without thinking it's an obsolete piece of ****.
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Haha.. I wouldn't consider it a BAD phone based on that it isn't the latest model
I'm considering buying the Z2 now, and it seems it really doesn't matter regarding performance. Am I going to regret not waiting it out?!
OT: I'm assuming the "major" differences are going to be physical and UX. Sony has chosen a bumpy road trying to impress every half year. We really can't expect a revolution each time (and therefore not making the previous model obsolete)
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Funny that you didn't have any better argument than "Lol".
But since you think 64bit is unnecessary why are you using 64bit on your computer?
I call it now, your argument is going to be something like "phones are not computers".
It's absolutely true that we don't need or use many things on our PC, phones or tablets...
But that doesn't mean we don't need it, or if you like, it doesn't mean it's not good for industry to grow...
I'm sure I'm not the only one who is not using 100% of any device, that's perfectly normal...
But...
First step will be 64bit architecture then it'll produce less heat, less heat means happy camera users, happy camera users will lead to something else...
That's industry and it's perfectly normal to go forward...
Someone said why QHD screens...well because that will sell devices...
Should they add CRT into Z3 plans?
Yes, we don't need many things but I like to have new and fancy things...
To be honest I don't need 4K recording on my phone but I like to have it
Back to topic...
Totally agree with statement that Sony can't build (not only Sony) and release revolution every six months but it's not cool to sell devices for 1000$, devices that are finished...
Z3 will be finished Z or Z1 - someone said that and I believe that's, sad but, true...
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64 bit SoC's will allow more than 3gb RAM in a phone too, that's probably the more realistic benefit at the minute (IMHO).
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3GB limit is x86 architecture specific and it is not directly linked to 32 bit architecture, google for PAE.
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First step will be 64bit architecture then it'll produce less heat, less heat means happy camera users, happy camera users will lead to something else...
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Pure nonsense. I understand meaning of your statements, but this one is just simply not true.
If Sony does refresh their flagship as per EvLeaks tweet, then they're are going to piss off a huge portion of the customer base who bought into the Z2, me included, they seem to be going down the same road that HTC went down, re-releasing minor spec bumped versions of their flagship devices because they didnt cover all angles with the initial devices.
HTC have just won back their customer base and regardless of sales, they have the best Android phone out period, with the M8 they got the formula 100% correct and they are seeing a positive return, Sony has been playing the developers friend and that has opened up doors and they have grown a loyal fan base but they should be careful of this business practice where they do what the did with the Z > Z1.
The life span on a flagship is already down to 11 months maybe and cutting it shorter is going to piss people off and they will take their business elsewhere, while Sony doesnt have the capital expenditure problems that HTC has since Sony is a multi dimentional corporation but this 6 months refresh cycle with see them run at a loss in the long run.
I'm happy with my Z2 and would love for it to be the top dog till the next Mobile World Congress.
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3GB limit is x86 architecture specific and it is not directly linked to 32 bit architecture, google for PAE.
Pure nonsense. I understand meaning of your statements, but this one is just simply not true.
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Haha...you shouldn't take everything so serious...take a deep breath and remember... We are on forum, not in North Korea...
Everyone has right to day what he/she thinks it's right...
If you really understood what I wanted to say, you won't be writing something like that...
I actually know what I'm saying and don't need to ask Google for opinion.
BTW - don't take everything from Google and wiki for granted...
I just simplified long statement....
If you want or need long version why it would lead to "cooler" cpu and device I'll write that for you...
I'm not talking about higher frequencies, I'm talking about new and better architecture and benefits.
And yeah...It's not problem in cpus, it's problem in OS (to add more RAMs)...
But one lead to other and it'll eventually lead to faster devices, powered with better chipsets, more RAM and less heat...
That all ends with happier users, or grumpy ones, like you...
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Seems all these phone companies are just greedy these days, rushing out different models!. The z2 ain't been out for 5 minutes! photo's on a leaked z3 is ridiculous. They shouldn't be allowed to bringft these flagship phones with minor updates so quickly!?
1st full review is released today and it's not looking good for HTC, will update this thread with more reviews when released.
HTC One M9 Review - Where are the improvements?
-Based on these pictures, and of course many other photos that we have made, we are not impressed by the camera of the M9. In good light it captures more detail than the M8, but sometimes blur on the right. In low light, aggressive noise reduction leads to a lack of detail. A high-end phone that costs a lot of money should we expect better.
-The One M8 was during the test just under 40 degrees. That is palpable, but not uncomfortable. The One M9 was the same load as much as 55.4 degrees. That is a fundamental difference and after the turning of the test was the M9 so hot that it was uncomfortable to hold him.
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-It is obvious that HTC simply exactly the same screen as used in the M8, but that is not the case. For reasons we do not understand is the manufacturer went for another panel that produces noticeably less beautiful picture. For example, the brightness is lower, although the difference is not large. With a maximum brightness of 474cd / m² of M9 screen is fortunately still bright enough to be still visible in the air.
If we look at the contrast ratio of the screen, we see a big difference. Where the M8 a ratio of 1624: 1 makes note, an excellent score for an LCD, the M9 does not exceed 911: 1. That is to see if you like both devices side by side; the image of the M8 look more impressive. Especially in a dark environment can be seen that the black on the M8 is much deeper; the M9 tends a bit more to very dark gray with a blue touch. Look you then even at an oblique angle to the screen, we see clear color shifting, something we expected earlier in cheaper phones.
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Battery is comparable with G3/Lumia 930, screen is worst than M8 according to them...
That review is so bad that I almost want to believe it was a bad unit..
Will wait for a couple more before getting worried
You are funny.
Anandtech said they didnt find the S810 overheating. Some dutch website says a pre release version of the M9 gets hot.
There will be plenty of reviews coming in the next week or so.. lets just wait and see
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You are funny.
Anandtech said they didnt find the S810 overheating. Some dutch website says a pre release version of the M9 gets hot.
There will be plenty of reviews coming in the next week or so.. lets just wait and see
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Yes, and Anandtech was using a reference device the size of a tablet, whose size helped with the thermals. We also don't know what else Qualcomm stuffed inside that tablet. There might have been some expensive cooling technology that we don't know of that won't be in the consumer devices.
Hell, that tablet scores a 62k on antutu, when we all know that 810 devices score 50-55k.
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Yes, and Anandtech was using a reference device the size of a tablet, whose size helped with the thermals. We also don't know what else Qualcomm stuffed inside that tablet. There might have been some expensive cooling technology that we don't know of that won't be in the consumer devices.
Hell, that tablet scores a 62k on antutu, when we all know that 810 devices score 50-55k.
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As for the underlying SoC, it seems that a lot of the concerns with the Snapdragon 810 remain unfounded, as the One M9 was quite smooth even with this non-final build of software. It’s likely that while the Snapdragon 810 SoC itself is without issue, properly tuning all of the controls in Qualcomm’s big.LITTLE implementation is a much more difficult than a standard aSMP solution. Unfortunately, due to the non-final state of the software we are unable to present benchmarks of the device, but we will be sure to do this for the full review of the device. In general use, the phone remained cool and comfortable to use, and it was hard to really tell if the phone got any hotter than the M8 in practice, even in benchmarks. The One M7 is definitely far hotter in comparison due to its 28LP process used on the SoC in comparison.
From their M9 hands on.
amidabuddha said:
Dude no offense, but looking at your forum history I can see that you have signed up a couple of days before the official announcement of S6, spend a good amount of time to praise the greatness of Sammy, flaming severely Apple and HTC, demonstrating quite good amount of in-depth knowledge without providing any sources (except few posts) and using a lot of marketing methods to influense the rest of the readers with your opinion.
IMHO you are paid and your advise should be not taken seriously
Just my two cents, I am sorry if I am too suspicious, but people do all kind of weird stuff in the name of the holy Dollar
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I had the great desire to second this in that thread as well.
Looks like the OP here just like you has participated in marketing discussions only since his signing up in a Development forum isn't it strange? No ROMs, no Kernels discussions, no mods, just plain prasing on great Samsung.
Lol Sammy guys stop this please, we will all see is it worth once the devices get to the shops and the real-life reviews come as @rkial already said
Thread cleaned. This is a Reviews thread, not a bun-fight. Neither is it a vehicle to bash HTC.
Keep it civil and on-topic please or it will disappear for good.
Why is it that everybody that says something negative about the M9 is trolling?? I am the biggest HTC fan and im not liking what im hearing about the M9! Im actually really disappointed because I really do think HTC builds the best phones in the market but the M9 just isnt stacking up too well. Considering the phone is so close to launch, I honestly dont think last minute software tweaks are gonna save it from everything. Do I think it can help some? Yes, but I really dont think HTC would have released test units if the software wasnt semi close to final. Companies know leaks happen so if you know the software is that bad then why risk bad press by releasing test units with buggy software that dont show off the phones potential? I dunno I really hope things turn around but HTC seems to be running out of steam. And before anybody says im "trolling" or a Samsung fanboy or whatever, just know I hate TouchWiz, never owned anything Apple and my last 6 devices have all been HTC outside of the Note 2....
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Why is it that everybody that says something negative about the M9 is trolling?? I am the biggest HTC fan and im not liking what im hearing about the M9! Im actually really disappointed because I really do think HTC builds the best phones in the market but the M9 just isnt stacking up too well. Considering the phone is so close to launch, I honestly dont think last minute software tweaks are gonna save it from everything. Do I think it can help some? Yes, but I really dont think HTC would have released test units if the software wasnt semi close to final. Companies know leaks happen so if you know the software is that bad then why risk bad press by releasing test units with buggy software that dont show off the phones potential? I dunno I really hope things turn around but HTC seems to be running out of steam. And before anybody says im "trolling" or a Samsung fanboy or whatever, just know I hate TouchWiz, never owned anything Apple and my last 6 devices have all been HTC outside of the Note 2....
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Thanks for your great post. Not everyone who's being critical is trolling. I hope people have a more open mind when reading internet comments.
In any case, here are the battery life figures for the M9 since the OP didn't include the charts in his post:
Qualcomm will NOT release a processor they know is this bad and HTC would not release a device if it was this much of a failure.
I got the htc one m8 and loved it even on kit kat was super fast everyday use was perfect but got caught up in the hype of samsung marketing and got the plastic Note 4 have hated it since I got it should i mention Note 4 STILL HASNT GOT LOLLIPOP Just pitiful!!!
I suggest trying the HTC One M9 yourself before making bold statements and your personal use will always be different trying it out is worth the restocking fee.
Dont fall for the samsung marketing samsung can keep their plastic phone with glass and no microsd card slot. 64gb cards these days are only 25$
I'm sure somebody will say they cant follow my post mostly likely a samsung lover....lol
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Qualcomm will NOT release a processor they know is this bad and HTC would not release a device if it was this much of a failure.
I got the htc one m8 and loved it even on kit kat was super fast everyday use was perfect but got caught up in the hype of samsung marketing and got the plastic Note 4 have hated it since I got it should i mention Note 4 STILL HASNT GOT LOLLIPOP Just pitiful!!!
I suggest trying the HTC One M9 yourself before making bold statements and your personal use will always be different trying it out is worth the restocking fee.
Dont fall for the samsung marketing samsung can keep their plastic phone with glass and no microsd card slot. 64gb cards these days are only 25$
I'm sure somebody will say they cant follow my post mostly likely a samsung lover....lol
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At this point, I'd rather take the Note 4 over the M9.
At this moment I'm more worried about all these devices coming out with the broken Android 5.0. Even Android 5.1 produces memory leak problems on the Nexus 6, and all these radio issues and signal loss regardless of the device and software is something should've never happened under Google's guidance.
"Author of the article on Tweakers here:
Actually, there was a worldwide embargo on reviews today at noon (Amsterdam time), but on Friday HTC contacted everybody and told them they were postponing the lifting of the embargo until Monday next week.
However, there were two sites who didn't really get this email: British PcAdvisor and Dutch blog AndroidPlanet, one of our competitors in the tech scene in Holland. We had an agreement with htc that we would publish if one or more websites broke the embargo, so that's what we did: publish it.
After the fact, HTC contacted PcAdvisor and persuaded them into removing the benchmarks and renaming it a 'hands on', while AndroidPlanet took their whole review offline.
That's when they called us to ask if we got take it offline as well, but we never do that (because our site is so well read and commented on, that a lot of links people shared won't work anymore for instance) and we felt we were not at fault because we made an agreement and stuck to it.
For the record, to the best of my knowledge the lifting of the embargo was postponed because of a boot issue, not because of issues with the processor or battery life.
Somehow, even after we published htc persuaded all the big media to not publish the review, although they must be ready to publish and the other media would have all the right in the world to consider the embargo broken and thus lifted. How htc persuaded all of them, I just don't know.
So yeah, basically htc did **** up an embargo, by resetting the date a few days in advance.
We did not expect the story about the heating problems becoming hot news (pun definitely intended ) in the English speaking world. We are writing in Dutch after all, a language only like 30 million people in the world understand (we always brag about having more unique visitors than there are Dutch speaking people, but that's ofcourse nonsense, because of the subjects on our site readers like technology a lot and probably use 2 or 3 or more devices to visit our site )"
I guess you can't use the "non-final software" excuse now.
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I guess you can't use the "non-final software" excuse now.
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The phone got delayed for software updates, so yes people could use that "excuse". We get that you dislike HTC and love Samsung but just give it a rest - Adam
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The phone got delayed for software updates, so yes people could use that "excuse". We get that you dislike HTC and love Samsung but just give it a rest - Adam
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Software can fix dull screen? Nope
Btw no word about RAW, why htc is postponing it perhaps the only thing that could help the camera. Htc is acting like an amateur company this year I can't recognise them anymore
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Yes, non-final software is still a possibility because the review was still done on a phone running pre-final software. You can't deny the possibility that HTC is working on camera post-processing and other software bugs now. Plus, even during MWC, HTC employees continued to tell us that the phone's software was indeed not finalised, so there's that.
P.S. Tbh, your little story was interesting to read, but it didn't suggest anything about "non-final software" at all. It was simply an illogical conclusion
Applesexual said:
"Author of the article on Tweakers here:
Actually, there was a worldwide embargo on reviews today at noon (Amsterdam time), but on Friday HTC contacted everybody and told them they were postponing the lifting of the embargo until Monday next week.
However, there were two sites who didn't really get this email: British PcAdvisor and Dutch blog AndroidPlanet, one of our competitors in the tech scene in Holland. We had an agreement with htc that we would publish if one or more websites broke the embargo, so that's what we did: publish it.
After the fact, HTC contacted PcAdvisor and persuaded them into removing the benchmarks and renaming it a 'hands on', while AndroidPlanet took their whole review offline.
That's when they called us to ask if we got take it offline as well, but we never do that (because our site is so well read and commented on, that a lot of links people shared won't work anymore for instance) and we felt we were not at fault because we made an agreement and stuck to it.
For the record, to the best of my knowledge the lifting of the embargo was postponed because of a boot issue, not because of issues with the processor or battery life.
Somehow, even after we published htc persuaded all the big media to not publish the review, although they must be ready to publish and the other media would have all the right in the world to consider the embargo broken and thus lifted. How htc persuaded all of them, I just don't know.
So yeah, basically htc did **** up an embargo, by resetting the date a few days in advance.
We did not expect the story about the heating problems becoming hot news (pun definitely intended ) in the English speaking world. We are writing in Dutch after all, a language only like 30 million people in the world understand (we always brag about having more unique visitors than there are Dutch speaking people, but that's ofcourse nonsense, because of the subjects on our site readers like technology a lot and probably use 2 or 3 or more devices to visit our site )"
I guess you can't use the "non-final software" excuse now.
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Did you even read what you posted? It didn't mention their unit having final software or even being a non preproduction unit. You're trolling way too hard. Let the phone get released, then if it has issues you can come back out from under your bridge.
You could also just not get an m9.
Unfortunately where you se some smoke, usually, there is fire.
Lets wait and hope the tested Unit is a faulty one or without final hardware.
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The guy saying 28nm will be hotter than this new tech... In semiconductor physics, it's the opposite (smaller process at these limits runs hotter and is much harder to control.)
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The guy saying 28nm will be hotter than this new tech... In semiconductor physics, it's the opposite (smaller process at these limits runs hotter and is much harder to control.)
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The number of cores went from 4 to 8, meaning that the size of each core probably had to be shrunk in order to fit inside a smartphone SoC.
Smaller cores = hotter cores
I made a video comparison, see how s20+ is destroyed by S10+ when it comes to gaming
thanks for the video.
I will request the snapdragon version
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I made a video comparison, see how s20+ is destroyed by S10+ when it comes to gaming
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This is absolutely insane! How the hell did Samsung allow the Exynos 990 out the gate with such poor performance. Your video, along with these two below is a major case for people to at least get refunds from Samsung, the Exynos is clearly not a proper flagship SoC at all!
https://youtu.be/4suhKrD7muQ
https://youtu.be/6CUSe8kgIE8
Thanks a lot for sharing and bringing insight to the community! I am not very active here but when I see something like this my blood boils, I cannot believe Samsung have lead us astray like this!
Oh boohoo! Get over it. It's nothing that cant be resolved with a simple software update. And if you're a "gamer" you shouldn't be buying this phone anyway, it's not advertised as a gaming phone and therefore shouldn't be used as one. Yeah, it should do some gaming, but it was never designed for prolonged periods of intense gaming.
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Oh boohoo! Get over it. It's nothing that cant be resolved with a simple software update. And if you're a "gamer" you shouldn't be buying this phone anyway, it's not advertised as a gaming phone and therefore shouldn't be used as one. Yeah, it should do some gaming, but it was never designed for prolonged periods of intense gaming.
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I totally agree exynos is not good compare to sd.
but people complain about not able to play games is totaly unacceptable(that to for only few good titles always compares to pubg).because Samsung is allround phone. so yes you can play game but not as gaming phone.also samsung never released a gaming phone yet wait for exynos and AMD collaberation.
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I play cod mobile with medium settings and focus on frame rate, I play for hours and can't find any fault it does get bit warm but I am over it. Yes I wish the sd version came in Australia but with bleeding edge technology you will always have issues no matter the price or company
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Oh boohoo! Get over it. It's nothing that cant be resolved with a simple software update. And if you're a "gamer" you shouldn't be buying this phone anyway, it's not advertised as a gaming phone and therefore shouldn't be used as one. Yeah, it should do some gaming, but it was never designed for prolonged periods of intense gaming.
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Part of the problem is that Samsung’s are sold worldwide and in some places are the closest to a gaming phone we can get in a lot of regions, especially through carriers. Distribution of Xiaomi,RAZER and ASUS gaming phones is pretty limited. In many regions you will not even have after sales support and have to ship your phone off overseas if anything goes wrong.
Oh Samsung DO push gaming in their marketing of the S20 range:
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As well as in their Exynos 990 materials to...
Lag free gaming they say.... LOL!
https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/exynos/products/mobileprocessor/exynos-990/
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Part of the problem is that Samsung’s are sold worldwide and in some places are the closest to a gaming phone we can get in a lot of regions, especially through carriers. Distribution of Xiaomi,RAZER and ASUS gaming phones is pretty limited. In many regions you will not even have after sales support and have to ship your phone off overseas if anything goes wrong.
Oh Samsung DO push gaming in their marketing of the S20 range:
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As well as in their Exynos 990 materials to...
Lag free gaming they say.... LOL!
https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/exynos/products/mobileprocessor/exynos-990/
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Read what i wrote dude, it's nothing that cant be fixed with a simple software update. And i also wrote that its not being advertised as a gaming phone and therefore people shouldnt expect it to be one. Samsung have never said that the S20 range is designed purely for gaming. In their marketing, they've merely stated that it can game - and it can. Get over it and wait for Samsung to fix the issue. The device has been out less than a month...
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Read what i wrote dude, it's nothing that cant be fixed with a simple software update. And i also wrote that its not being advertised as a gaming phone and therefore people shouldnt expect it to be one.
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Well I hope they WILL fix it with a software update, big difference between it being possible and them actually doing it. Let’s be cognizant of the fact that Exynos990 has A76 cores and not the newer and more efficient A77 found in the Snapdragon, a software update definitely won’t be able to fix the hardware, their software will probably try patch it up OR they can balance it out by bringing down Snapdragon performance but the latter option would just make people even more angry. They have little wiggle room with this it seems, one wonders how much more they could get out of the Exynos at this point.
Also they don’t have to advertise it as a gaming phone strictly, their claims in the S20 and Exynos990 marketing material both make a pretty big deal about its gaming capabilities which it actually does not live up to.
The Snapdragon on the other hand does a great job at living up to its claims.
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Well I hope they WILL fix it with a software update, big difference between it being possible and them actually doing it. Let’s be cognizant of the fact that Exynos990 has A76 cores and not the newer and more efficient A77 found in the Snapdragon, a software update definitely won’t be able to fix the hardware, their software will probably try patch it up OR they can balance it out by bringing down Snapdragon performance but the latter option would just make people even more angry. They have little wiggle room with this it seems, one wonders how much more they could get out of the Exynos at this point.
Also they don’t have to advertise it as a gaming phone strictly, their claims in the S20 and Exynos990 marketing material both make a pretty big deal about its gaming capabilities which it actually does not live up to.
The Snapdragon on the other hand does a great job at living up to its claims.
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At the end of the day dude, you've seen the video - if you dont like it, steer clear. Nobody has a gun to your head. Quit whining and just wait and see what Samsung do. People are always so quick to nit-pick on a device that's less than a month old.
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At the end of the day dude, you've seen the video - if you dont like it, steer clear. Nobody has a gun to your head. Quit whining and just wait and see what Samsung do. People are always so quick to nit-pick on a device that's less than a month old.
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Not whining is what helps brands get away with nonsense like this. Had people not whined the S20 Ultra would have continued to have Auto Focus problems. I will whine with my fellow enthusiasts whenever we see issues on our favourite devices.
You may go ahead and put me on your ignore list as this will not stop for as long as companies continue with such scumbaggery. I have been around here since the Windows Mobile 6 days and often seen crap like this get pushed under the carpet when nobody says anything.
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Not whining is what helps brands get away with nonsense like this. Had people not whined the S20 Ultra would have continued to have Auto Focus problems. I will whine with my fellow enthusiasts whenever we see issues on our favourite devices.
You may go ahead and put me on your ignore list as this will not stop for as long as companies continue with such scumbaggery. I have been around here since the Windows Mobile 6 days and often seen crap like this get pushed under the carpet when nobody says anything.
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Well if all you have to do is whine and moan about graphics performance on an SoC - then i wish you well with the rest of your life. If you feel that strongly about it, feel free to pick up and pen, find a piece of paper and write to Samsung directly. The issue in post #1 is not a major issue, it's not a deal breaker, it's not the "do all and end all" (so to speak). Pick yourself up, brush it off, wait for a software update from Samsung, take a deep breath and move on. It will get fixed....give it time.
yup I agree with this. I been waiting for come back of snapdragon samsung flagships to Asia personally for india last seen for me was note 4 having sd 805.thats it after all this exynos with lower performance not acceptable for paying 93k rs aprox 1300$
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Well if all you have to do is whine and moan about graphics performance on an SoC - then i wish you well with the rest of your life. If you feel that strongly about it, feel free to pick up and pen, find a piece of paper and write to Samsung directly. The issue in post #1 is not a major issue, it's not a deal breaker, it's not the "do all and end all" (so to speak). Pick yourself up, brush it off, wait for a software update from Samsung, take a deep breath and move on. It will get fixed....give it time.
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You deal with it how you want and I deal with it how I want.
You can take a deep breath, ignore my posts and move on. [emoji6]
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You deal with it how you want and I deal with it how I want.
You can take a deep breath, ignore my posts and move on. [emoji6]
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We're all adults here (well, most of us anyway). It's a teething problem on a device that is less than a month old. It will get fixed. But people come to a public forum and say stuff like "Avoid at all costs" "Exynos variant is absolute trash" "DO NOT BUY" etc etc. It's a teething problem and people here are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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yup I agree with this. I been waiting for come back of snapdragon samsung flagships to Asia personally for india last seen for me was note 4 having sd 805.thats it after all this exynos with lower performance not acceptable for paying 93k rs aprox 1300$
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Exactly, we have seen this year after year, enough is enough at this point, especially the prices we pay for these devices.
Remember back in the Galaxy S4 days with the Exynos 5410 and Snapdragon 600 chip? And then again with the Galaxy Note 4 with the Snapdragon 805 and Exynos 5433.
It’s been going on for far too long, there is always this significant difference but this year is the biggest we have seen.
maybe its nothing, but i sign
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-stop-selling-us-inferior-exynos-phones
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Exactly, we have seen this year after year, enough is enough at this point, especially the prices we pay for these devices.
Remember back in the Galaxy S4 days with the Exynos 5410 and Snapdragon 600 chip? And then again with the Galaxy Note 4 with the Snapdragon 805 and Exynos 5433.
It’s been going on for far too long, there is always this significant difference but this year is the biggest we have seen.
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also those days differences are very less now its significant difference between these too.20% performance is too much and the culprit will be graphics mail GPU and old 76 cortex
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