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Who loves their Ouya?

So I was apprehensive about purchasing an Ouya after finding out about the recovery issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326377&highlight=let+ouya+know
http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/1380/recovery-mode
But I went ahead and got one from Amazon anyway. Rooted it, running Nova Launcher rather than the Ouya one, Installed the Google Play Store.... XBMC ...
played a few games a bit.
It's not perfect. But I'm loving it anyway.
I just don't wanna brick it, so I haven't tried any of the alternate ROMs. I'd love to throw CM10 on this little cube.
Anyway. ...
If you love your Ouya... this is your thread.

Oscar_david said:
So I was apprehensive about purchasing an Ouya after finding out about the recovery issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326377&highlight=let+ouya+know
http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/1380/recovery-mode
But I went ahead and got one from Amazon anyway. Rooted it, running Nova Launcher rather than the Ouya one, Installed the Google Play Store.... XBMC ...
played a few games a bit.
It's not perfect. But I'm loving it anyway.
I just don't wanna brick it, so I haven't tried any of the alternate ROMs. I'd love to throw CM10 on this little cube.
Anyway. ...
If you love your Ouya... this is your thread.
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I love it! it works perfectly as a low power media center and the games I run on it work well. I'm just having a hard time making it detect my SD card but i'm almost there...

I personally can't stand the overlay, so when I get the chance (and energy), I'll try to put CM10 on it, at which point I expect I'll be fine with it. The controller is awful though (for me, anyway), so I'm looking forward to connecting some cheap USB hardware once I get back to school to use it as a media server. I require basically nothing else from it.

Rirere said:
I personally can't stand the overlay, so when I get the chance (and energy), I'll try to put CM10 on it, at which point I expect I'll be fine with it. The controller is awful though (for me, anyway), so I'm looking forward to connecting some cheap USB hardware once I get back to school to use it as a media server. I require basically nothing else from it.
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Its perfect as media server. USB keyboard and mouse work great on it. In the mean time, try blue board.
Also by overlay, I assume you mean the interface itself. You can just install Nova Launcher.
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Oscar_david said:
Its perfect as media server. USB keyboard and mouse work great on it. In the mean time, try blue board.
Also by overlay, I assume you mean the interface itself. You can just install Nova Launcher.
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The launcher is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to annoyances: a lot of things I do daily on other devices involve weird workarounds and jumping through "user-friendly" panels. I really don't have a patience with most customized skins, so it's really not worth my time until I can flash CM. As with all things, mileage varies, so take this for what it is.

I personally enjoy the Interface. Coming from an MK808 with a stock Android experience, screwing with the UI using an Airmouse or controller was a pain in the butt. I love the simplicity and being able to just pick what I want and go.
I could see if you are using it more as a media server. But just for playing games (what I purchased it for) the UI is awesome.
The Gamepad leaves a little to be desired for. Really, nothing beats a PS3 gamepad for retro gaming. The OUYA gamepad feels nice, but it feels like a 360 pad... with its iffy circle dpad. The controller responds very well but the dpad makes retro gaming a bit cumbersome. The PS3 is also lighter and just feels right. Fortunately the PS3 pad pairs effortlessly and has become my main go to for EMU's.
Overall I love it. Mine took a factory reset before it saw my USB HDD, but good to go. The Ouya Store is a little cluttered. They have Top Favorites like 5 times and each has duplicate games... so you keep seeing the same ones over and over. Right now, the store is barren, so finding something is easy if you search by categories. This WILL be a problem as it expands.
I'd also like to see some simple categories like Top Ten Downloaded, Most Liked, and Newest Releases... even "Latest Updates" which just shows apps that have been updated. This would be nice since some early versions have bugs. On several occasions I have passed up an app because of issues, then forget about it only to find later it was fixed pretty quickly.
There is a lack of online multiplayer apps. Local Multiplayer Emulators is mostly what I purchased the console for in the first place. And that it does almost flawlessly.

I absolutely LOVE my OUYA! I love the interface and even the controller, even with the less than perfect D-pad. I've had more fun with some of these games than I have on my 360 in a long time. And actually I've played more games for longer since I got my OUYA than all year on my PS3/360/PC (excluding MMO's)
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I'd also like to see some simple categories like Top Ten Downloaded, Most Liked, and Newest Releases... even "Latest Updates" which just shows apps that have been updated. This would be nice since some early versions have bugs. On several occasions I have passed up an app because of issues, then forget about it only to find later it was fixed pretty quickly.
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I think this is something they're working on. They actually added a "New Release" category yesterday that made me happy, although I'm not sure how they sort it because some of the new releases were not actually on there. Even then, they need less top 5 lists and more broad categories with SUB categories. I believe 1 level deep should solve a lot of the problems we're currently seeing.

Love my ouya, but have nothing to compare with, i am a pc user.
Bought it for the games and then discovered the emulators. Installed battle city and having the blast with my friend.
Also bought the hocky kickass game and got owned by my little bro :/
So ye, perfectly satisfied with myvpurchase.
And also a big thumb to all the devs, and moders to make it even awesomer

My history and experiences are a bit different but my reactions are similar to everyone else here.
I started messing around with "hacking" game consoles about 10 years ago with an Xbox 1. Pretty quickly became a serious XBMC user.
I actually was only initially interested in the Ouya as a way to get a tiny / silent dedicated XBMC box. The fact that it is a hacker-friendly box that runs Android and is sort of an indie game haven did not hurt at all.
I honestly didn't expect to use it for gaming at all, but I've been surprised to find that that's mostly what I use it for.
The whole "everything is free to try!" model changed the way I found and bought games. The fact that almost all the games are cheap as hell compared to "real" console games doesn't hurt either.
I have done several Kickstarter items in the past, and so I know that the Ouya team is smaller than they should be and has had to solve a lot of unexpected issues along the way, so I am not surprised that a bunch of unsolved issues remain. However, overall I am satisfied with all that it does. There are seriously a bunch of great Ouya games, like TowerFall, Bomb Squad, Hidden In Plain Sight, The Little Crane That Could, etc.
I have been a pretty busy guy in general lately, and so I honestly don't feel like I have the time to play some of these 80+ hour AAA titles that are around right now. In that respect the Ouya has been great. Every aspect of the commitment level from the user is significantly less than other consoles, and I like that.
As others have said, there are some things about the system that bug me, but overall, I can't be bothered with ROMs right now.
It does everything I want already, and the random cool crap you theoretically could maybe do with a ROM doesn't presently overrule my fear that I may brick my Ouya.
At this point I think my laziness also is a big thing. It works well enough as is, so I'm not sufficiently motivated to mess with it yet. Obviously, me browsing this forum means I'm thinking about it though

I am loving my ouya as well! And my roomate who has berated me about my purchase since january, calling ouya an obvious failure, conceded. After having it for 2 days, he stated he is going to pick one up for himself now that they are supposedly available retail. if you went into this thing with reasonable expectations, you will be very happy. if you heard "console" and thought "PS3.5" you are going to be disappointed, but whatever man, you were a fool so GFY.
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I love mine. It likes to fight, but I like to fight back. Getting it to function perfectly is a game itself. As far as games, I recommend You Don't Know Jack and Vendetta Online. Good games that work great; vendetta just isn't consistent with what the menus say controls are.
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I got it for retro gaming and sideload some better emulators and it works great. Can't wait for better roms tho

At this point I'm unimpressed. It feels like it needed another 6 months in development, especially the UI. The library is also very week. There are a few gems like towerfall, but the vast majority of games don't warrant more than 3 minutes of play.

I was underwhelmed at first but now I have the play store, access to my games, emulators, and another launcher running I love it.
I think I will have to purchase a usb hub and a mouse and keyboard before I am truely happy.
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I'm LOVING my Ouya!
Towerfall might be my favorite multiplayer game ever!

My OUYA is amazing. Rooted and CWM already. But still waiting for goog CM port on it)

I still feel burned over the recovery issue - they shouldn't have sold it as open the way they did if they weren't planning on actually living up to that claim....
But....
Overall I'm still extremely happy with mine. The original controllers I got were absolute trash, but they replaced them quickly when I contacted support (thankfully I got mine in late May before they ran out of replacement controllers) and the replacements are fine. The wireless has me wondering if they actually had anyone with any kind of RF experience involved in the design - wifi is horrible and the bluetooth isn't much better. Sitting just 10' from mine the controllers will freak out if I don't sit forward in my seat with a completely unobstructed path between them and the Ouya. The interface isn't great and the Discover section needs a TON of work....but that's software and I'm sure we'll see some major changes there sooner rather than later.
Due to the recovery issue I haven't done much hacking on mine other than root/busybox and a few things like Titanium. But that wasn't my main reason for wanting it - it was what put me over the edge since I figured it was a good price for a Tegra3 board to play with if Ouya tanked....but I was still hoping they'd pull it off and have some decent games. And while the game selection isn't anything to get excited about just yet...it's been getting better and better quicker and quicker and I've had no problem finding games I want to play on it. Heck I've actually bought more games on it than I did for my Wii (the last console I bought) which is mostly due to the fact that while I've bought more games for the Ouya than I did for the Wii I've spent less on games for the Ouya than I did on just one game for the Wii
The main reason I'm happy with it though is because I do believe in the dream and I do love Indie games. And even better having this thing sitting here has finally gotten me to get serious about sinking my teeth into Java and Android development. I cobbled together a few quick and dirty sample apps a few years ago before I even had an android device to run them on (ran them on the emulator and then my wife's phone since she got to upgrade a year before me) but haven't gone any further because while I may be able to sling some code I'm just not that good at making things look nice and my co-workers who are are apple guys who don't want to help me develop for Android. But they're also gamers and are interested in the Ouya so we're finally on the same page and working on some ideas. I was blown away by how easily I was able to get some simple game proof of concepts functional and so was my co-worker. It's been a dream of mine to make my own game for a console since I got my first Atari 2600. I looked into the Wii homebrew scene...but again none of my graphically gifted co-workers had a Wii and weren't interested in doing anything for it so I never got past some quick test code. To finally have a system I can make code for and a friend who's interested in joining forces to make something....it's a dream come true.
Now if I just had more time to play games on it and/or write more code for it

I love this machine! Much better when its Rooted/CWM, its great to have friends over and hookup ps3 controllers to play Smash Bros or play any EMU games, and super portable for travelling.

I'm not already hooked by my Ouya (well almost)
I think it's really a matter of youthness : I'm currently a little disapointed by the quality of the graphics on the games, and to be honest I'm not that fan of graphics
But I can't help to notice the graphics gap between Android mobile games and Ouya games whereas our little square friend pack a very capable GPU (Tegra 3)
I also miss mass player online games which is for me a nice argument for Ouya (I do have friends !)
Again I think the future will be beautifull since Ouya games currently available are essentially from indie enthousiastics who don't have necessary big fund
Finally, I don't regret my Ouya AT ALL, I'm really happy to be a baker

i find it a bit odd how people often emphasize that they use it mainly for emulating the classic consoles.
people could have saved themselves a great bit of money by just buying some no-brand Android device, and even gotten a device that was pre rooted, had official Play store, hardware recovery option 5 full size USB plugs, bluetooth and even SD slot. All for something like half the prize of the OUYA.
At this point i must say i am not to crazy about it. i feel that OUYA have really made an effort in locking down the console rather than living up to their promise of openness. Everything from the OUYA launcher being a walled garden, to no direct access to your own file system, no root access / superuser priviledges, no hardware option for recovery state and no play store access.
i really like the look and also the controller. But i also got this for a silent XBMC dedicated device. i will however wait for a linux based build before that dream come through. i was hoping that i could play and hack around with until then. But without a hardware recovery option, i will just wait for a good Linux based XBMC port instead.

Thoughts on new Ouya 16GB +Controller

as a previous owner of two original Ouyas i have to say im extemely impressed with the new 16gb console and in my opinion is worth the extra $30. Dont know how many of you are using the console outside of just a simple plex/xbmc player but i would highly recommend it for anyone that is actually using the console for games.
Improvements i've noticed:
-Controllers have better grip
-I would previously need to lay the ouya on its belly for better controller response (no longer needed)
-As a movie lover it annoyed me that in xbmc i would scroll down, let go of the bottom arrow and still see the screen scrolling. So much that i would only navigate xbmc remotely with my Nexus 7 tablet and/or Moto X.
-Dont know if its a recent software update but im not seeing lag as i once saw when i would play a 1080p (8-12gb) file while the library was getting updated in the background.
issues:
-Wifi issues where it kept losing signal everytime i rebooted. temp fix was to go to advance and disable wifi and turn it back on. Perm fix was to factory restore it.
-Google Play/XBMC (Previous version that support DTS) have each crashed more (3 times each) in the last 2 days on the new consoles than the older model did in the last 6 months i've owned them.
New and Older Ouyas are Rooted, 720p fixed, Google Play enabled and overclocked during these tests.

Thank you for posting. I actually just picked up one of the original 8GB models at Target but I'm considering returning it due to the controller and wifi issues. It sounds like the controller is better, but after you did the factory reset does the WiFi perform better than on your 8GB console?

raptir said:
Thank you for posting. I actually just picked up one of the original 8GB models at Target but I'm considering returning it due to the controller and wifi issues. It sounds like the controller is better, but after you did the factory reset does the WiFi perform better than on your 8GB console?
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The wifi issues went away after a factory reset. i have all my ouyas hardwired so i rarely use wifi after setup. One thing i started doing was using a ps3 controller, worth for $30.

mejdam said:
The wifi issues went away after a factory reset. i have all my ouyas hardwired so i rarely use wifi after setup. One thing i started doing was using a ps3 controller, worth for $30.
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Great, thanks for the update. I've been using a PS3 controller (already have a PS3, so that was convenient) and it's made the control experience a lot better. Unfortunately I don't have ethernet where I have the Ouya. I decided to go ahead and return my 8GB and order a 16GB. Since I use the WiFi and am having issues with it I'll provide an update about the performance of the new one.

raptir said:
Great, thanks for the update. I've been using a PS3 controller (already have a PS3, so that was convenient) and it's made the control experience a lot better. Unfortunately I don't have ethernet where I have the Ouya. I decided to go ahead and return my 8GB and order a 16GB. Since I use the WiFi and am having issues with it I'll provide an update about the performance of the new one.
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if you're going to use XBMC a lot then i would recommend buying a Mele F10-PRO.

So I received the new one and it's a huge difference. The controller still isn't as responsive as the PS3 controller but it's fine even for action games like Killing Floor. I still run into some input trouble if I am downloading a game but that may be the console more so than the controller.
WiFi is hugely improved. The connection is better overall but it also supports 5GHz wireless. Games download about as quickly as I would expect to given their size.
Overall I'm very satisfied with the updated model.

Well, personally i bought the original 8gb from target last month, and its perfect, wifi works great it downloads 1gb in 15 mins not being so close to the modem and controller works at its best when at full battery, when battery power decreases, controller performance does too. I'll be waiting for a hardware improvememt to buy a new model, as mine is just new, oh! And I'm using mine hooked up to a 1tb HDD , and forme controller is fine, shoulder buttons are quite lazy and hard to press, but other than that is a flawless victory, dunnow why so many bullying bout the ouya.

BadWolff23 said:
dunnow why so many bullying bout the ouya.
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Because many people are not having the same experience that you are reporting. On my 8GB from Target I would frequently see issues with the WiFi and controller.
Anyway, I'm now seeing the problem with the WiFi described in the OP. About 1/3 of the time that I turn the Ouya on it will not see any wireless networks and I need to reboot. A factory reset did not resolve the issue.

raptir said:
Because many people are not having the same experience that you are reporting. On my 8GB from Target I would frequently see issues with the WiFi and controller.
Anyway, I'm now seeing the problem with the WiFi described in the OP. About 1/3 of the time that I turn the Ouya on it will not see any wireless networks and I need to reboot. A factory reset did not resolve the issue.
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Yaya i mean, general bullying bout it calling it a lame console and a waste of money, i feel 99 was a rob, and it should cost twice that price for all i can use with it, i believe its because peoplethinks android is just cellphone OS and that means cellphone lame games on a big screen which is not all of the ouya tricks, its definetely NOT a one trick pony, gosh as of right now, i'm playing meltdown while listening to spotify at the same time, playing online, no lag no controller high latency, nothing...i feel super lucky for the one i picked up, my only complain so far is the sound on the trigger buttons and the horrible UI of jackalope D:, what I DO want is to buy one of those black controllers for my personal use during MP sessions with doods

I just got a new Shield tablet, what are the first things I should do?

Hey guys,
First of all, Im a new proud owner of the LTE 32GB Shield Tablet with the Nvidia controller after watching some youtube videos.
I was such a noob that while I was searching the web, I kept getting Nvidia Shiled and Nvidia Shield tablet confused! I didnt realize that their names were so similar which made searching for Roms compatibility a bit difficult.
Some of things I noticed:
1. updated to lollipop right away after I turned it on and deleted FB app and instagram app (just in case) from what I read here. Feels snappy enough that I dont think I need to do a factory reset.
2. Tried several of my App games but many didnt recognize the controller. Bummer.
-Need for speed hot pursuit didnt
-MC4 right analog wont turn my head so its impossible to aim
3. Installed PPSSPP so far the best emulator so far on the tablet. The aspect ratio seems to be very similar to PSP so it makes sense.
4. Snes 9x is good for the SNES roms but I dont know what happened to that other SNES emulator that I downloaded many months ago but no longer appears under my account. I forget the name of it but it was way better than this SNES 9x emulator.
5. Great overall tablet. A bit on the heavy side. Power button is probably the worst I've ever experienced. However, once I get the case, Im sure I wont need it as much.
6. I have a library of games on steam but disappointed that I have to rebuy half life 2 and portal to play it on my tablet.
7. Lack of library games on the Nvidia Hub.
Questions:
1. Do you guys keep your tab on at all times or do you turn it off at night?
2. Are there other android games I can use the controller with? If so, how do I get it so the buttons are configured correctly?
Thank you so much!

First thing? Buy the cover, it's awesome. There's magnets in it so it does't flop around open or closed and when you prop it up, the magnets hold the wedge in place.
But yea the power button sucks. First thing I did was upgrade to Lollipop then second thing I did was downgrade to Kitkat lol. No xposed and the single notification pull down were the deal breakers.
Haven't tried too much gaming but I do keep mine on at night, it's my alarm clock. Battery is great for me, my thing says I'm good for 5.5 hours use of battery and 5 days of standby.
Root it of course too There's a volume mod I found somewhere, for me Netflix is very quiet. Plus you need to unlock write privileges for the SD card.
64/128 gb SD card obviously too.

Tastycakess said:
First thing? Buy the cover, it's awesome. There's magnets in it so it does't flop around open or closed and when you prop it up, the magnets hold the wedge in place.
But yea the power button sucks. First thing I did was upgrade to Lollipop then second thing I did was downgrade to Kitkat lol. No xposed and the single notification pull down were the deal breakers.
Haven't tried too much gaming but I do keep mine on at night, it's my alarm clock. Battery is great for me, my thing says I'm good for 5.5 hours use of battery and 5 days of standby.
Root it of course too There's a volume mod I found somewhere, for me Netflix is very quiet. Plus you need to unlock write privileges for the SD card.
64/128 gb SD card obviously too.
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Unlock write privilages? How?
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malhaarkale said:
Unlock write privilages? How?
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If you are in kitat and rooted (towelroot, easy...), I use:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix&hl=en
I think Lollipop needs to mature, so I will wait to 5.0.1, I hope soon...

You should never root a device as soon as you get it. Wait a few days first to make sure everything works before you start tinkering.

I rooted my device as soon as it was powered on. I get your point but without root I don't have much use for the tablet

mcord11758 said:
I rooted my device as soon as it was powered on. I get your point but without root I don't have much use for the tablet
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Same here but in the case of the Nvidia Shiled, I chose to suffer a bit to wait out any issues that might come up before rooting it.

mcord11758 said:
I rooted my device as soon as it was powered on. I get your point but without root I don't have much use for the tablet
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Just out of curiosity, why do you root? sorry for bummer I am newbie

Ruturaj001 said:
Just out of curiosity, why do you root? sorry for bummer I am newbie
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Reasons for rooting vary. For this Tablet these are the things I needed root for so far
Using titanium backup to restore app data for games my kids play
Installing modified file to allow my ouya controller to pair and have buttons mapped
Installing folder mount to fix writing to external sd and move allot of my larger game files to external which is 64gb vs 16 internal. I would already be over my internal capacity without this
In the future if nvidia leaves issues in firmware that a developer here can fix it is nice to be able to have the freedom to try

xelemental said:
Hey guys,
First of all, Im a new proud owner of the LTE 32GB Shield Tablet with the Nvidia controller after watching some youtube videos.
I was such a noob that while I was searching the web, I kept getting Nvidia Shiled and Nvidia Shield tablet confused! I didnt realize that their names were so similar which made searching for Roms compatibility a bit difficult.
Some of things I noticed:
1. updated to lollipop right away after I turned it on and deleted FB app and instagram app (just in case) from what I read here. Feels snappy enough that I dont think I need to do a factory reset.
2. Tried several of my App games but many didnt recognize the controller. Bummer.
-Need for speed hot pursuit didnt
-MC4 right analog wont turn my head so its impossible to aim
3. Installed PPSSPP so far the best emulator so far on the tablet. The aspect ratio seems to be very similar to PSP so it makes sense.
4. Snes 9x is good for the SNES roms but I dont know what happened to that other SNES emulator that I downloaded many months ago but no longer appears under my account. I forget the name of it but it was way better than this SNES 9x emulator.
5. Great overall tablet. A bit on the heavy side. Power button is probably the worst I've ever experienced. However, once I get the case, Im sure I wont need it as much.
6. I have a library of games on steam but disappointed that I have to rebuy half life 2 and portal to play it on my tablet.
7. Lack of library games on the Nvidia Hub.
Questions:
1. Do you guys keep your tab on at all times or do you turn it off at night?
2. Are there other android games I can use the controller with? If so, how do I get it so the buttons are configured correctly?
Thank you so much!
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the controller is mappable to many games,hold the back button in the hame you have selected and then drag and drop controls and you can playba?lt pf gamesthis way,but you probably know this now though or it will download specific cpntrols from the web, this tablet is excellent,cant really fault it,imnot rooting this this time i have two other devjces both roooted amd running custom stuff but i have not found a specific reasom why i would want to root this time,i lobe thetjing the way it is.
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xelemental said:
Hey guys,
First of all, Im a new proud owner of the LTE 32GB Shield Tablet with the Nvidia controller after watching some youtube videos.
I was such a noob that while I was searching the web, I kept getting Nvidia Shiled and Nvidia Shield tablet confused! I didnt realize that their names were so similar which made searching for Roms compatibility a bit difficult.
Some of things I noticed:
1. updated to lollipop right away after I turned it on and deleted FB app and instagram app (just in case) from what I read here. Feels snappy enough that I dont think I need to do a factory reset.
2. Tried several of my App games but many didnt recognize the controller. Bummer.
-Need for speed hot pursuit didnt
-MC4 right analog wont turn my head so its impossible to aim
3. Installed PPSSPP so far the best emulator so far on the tablet. The aspect ratio seems to be very similar to PSP so it makes sense.
4. Snes 9x is good for the SNES roms but I dont know what happened to that other SNES emulator that I downloaded many months ago but no longer appears under my account. I forget the name of it but it was way better than this SNES 9x emulator.
5. Great overall tablet. A bit on the heavy side. Power button is probably the worst I've ever experienced. However, once I get the case, Im sure I wont need it as much.
6. I have a library of games on steam but disappointed that I have to rebuy half life 2 and portal to play it on my tablet.
7. Lack of library games on the Nvidia Hub.
Questions:
1. Do you guys keep your tab on at all times or do you turn it off at night?
2. Are there other android games I can use the controller with? If so, how do I get it so the buttons are configured correctly?
Thank you so much!
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the controller is mappable to many games,hold the back button in the game you have selected and then drag and drop controls and you can play a lot of games this way,but you probably know this now though or it will download specific controls from the web, this tablet is excellent,cant really fault it,im not rooting this this time i have two other devjces both roooted amd running custom stuff but i have not found a specific reason why i would want to root this time,i love the thing the way it is.

Ruturaj001 said:
Just out of curiosity, why do you root? sorry for bummer I am newbie
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Because I can
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xelemental said:
1. updated to lollipop right away after I turned it on and deleted FB app and instagram app (just in case) from what I read here. Feels snappy enough that I dont think I need to do a factory reset.
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How did you upgrade right after getting it??? I'm not being prompted for a system update and it tells me there are no further updates and developers.nvidia.com doesn't even have them posted...

I got Lollipop on day #1 ...which for me was back in November. 5.0 has been out for a while...
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... That being said ... oh gawd I miss KitKat. Lollipop was a laughable upgrade. I don't see any major performance improvement. The single notification is a mess. Memory management seems worse. And I hate to say it but I miss xposed.
I don't feel like the tablet is my own anymore. Google has made the experience just so generic. Kind of Apple-ish. Maybe if they are ever able to port xposed to ART, it'd be better. I don't know why, but somehow, I doubt it's going to happen.
I'll probably downgrade again soon, but don't know that nvidia will continue to support KitKat anymore.

Ruturaj001 said:
Just out of curiosity, why do you root? sorry for bummer I am newbie
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Some apps (Tasker, Titanium Backup, etc) require root.
Having root also allows you to uninstall the bloatware that eats up the storage you paid for.
"Because I can" is a valid answer as well. If you can't root it, you don't own it.

Get yourself a controller mount ASAP and you will love the tablet.

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Hey guys,
First of all, Im a new proud owner of the LTE 32GB Shield Tablet with the Nvidia controller after watching some youtube videos.
I was such a noob that while I was searching the web, I kept getting Nvidia Shiled and Nvidia Shield tablet confused! I didnt realize that their names were so similar which made searching for Roms compatibility a bit difficult.
Some of things I noticed:
1. updated to lollipop right away after I turned it on and deleted FB app and instagram app (just in case) from what I read here. Feels snappy enough that I dont think I need to do a factory reset.
2. Tried several of my App games but many didnt recognize the controller. Bummer.
-Need for speed hot pursuit didnt
-MC4 right analog wont turn my head so its impossible to aim
3. Installed PPSSPP so far the best emulator so far on the tablet. The aspect ratio seems to be very similar to PSP so it makes sense.
4. Snes 9x is good for the SNES roms but I dont know what happened to that other SNES emulator that I downloaded many months ago but no longer appears under my account. I forget the name of it but it was way better than this SNES 9x emulator.
5. Great overall tablet. A bit on the heavy side. Power button is probably the worst I've ever experienced. However, once I get the case, Im sure I wont need it as much.
6. I have a library of games on steam but disappointed that I have to rebuy half life 2 and portal to play it on my tablet.
7. Lack of library games on the Nvidia Hub.
Questions:
1. Do you guys keep your tab on at all times or do you turn it off at night?
2. Are there other android games I can use the controller with? If so, how do I get it so the buttons are configured correctly?
Thank you so much!
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Amazon sells a great SmartShell Case by Fintie and I highly recommend grabbing one!!

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Get yourself a controller mount ASAP and you will love the tablet.
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Do you have a recommendation?

Art blows dalvik away in performance gains. I like the new drop down. But I have been using lollipop since June. I just got this thing today and the thing runs circles around the nexus 9. The big thing lollipop brings is a ton more security checks.
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ailima said:
Do you have a recommendation?
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The Ipega http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OZEO576/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 is amazing and since it can do both orientations it wins every time. However if you got the offical controller there is always http://www.shapeways.com/model/2843...controller.html?li=shop-results&materialId=25 which fit perfectly and does a very good job but will only hold it in widescreen which makes it a bit weird to do DS games on it.

RiffyDivine said:
The Ipega http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OZEO576/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 is amazing and since it can do both orientations it wins every time. However if you got the offical controller there is always http://www.shapeways.com/model/2843...controller.html?li=shop-results&materialId=25 which fit perfectly and does a very good job but will only hold it in widescreen which makes it a bit weird to do DS games on it.
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Thanks!
I've seen the Shapeways one and have almost bought it in a couple occasions but it seems like the weight of the tablet would be uncomfortable with it being so far on top. The Ipega one looks interesting. I like my Shield controller though. How does the controller portion compare?

Ordered mine.... what now?

Hello fellow Humans,
I ordered my shield TV this weekend directly from nvidia and should get it this week! :victory:
I was wondering if there is something I should do like avoiding updates that block rooting or something like that. I know that on Amazon's Fire TV and sticks rooting is not possible due to updates.... is there maybe anything else like Hardware related that I should keep an eye on? When it comes to the Shield TV I'm a total noob. I would simply like to know what I definitely should and shouldn't do.

chieco said:
Hello fellow Humans,
I ordered my shield TV this weekend directly from nvidia and should get it this week! :victory:
I was wondering if there is something I should do like avoiding updates that block rooting or something like that. I know that on Amazon's Fire TV and sticks rooting is not possible due to updates.... is there maybe anything else like Hardware related that I should keep an eye on? When it comes to the Shield TV I'm a total noob. I would simply like to know what I definitely should and shouldn't do.
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Standard or Pro model?

Sub-Negro said:
Standard or Pro model?
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I got the 16gb Ver. because I own a NAS for all my media files. so I thought I won't need a 500gb drive. Apps I believe I won't install many of them. And besides doesn't it have a micro sd card slot + 2 USB ports... they have a promotion going on right now (at least in Germany) where i got the remote for free. So Shield TV and the remote for 199€ which is still expensive but that seems to be the price for the best Hardware u can get. Also big part on me deciding to get the Shield TV was the headphone jack on the remote and controller for private listening. Do you think I made a mistake by choosing the Standard Ver.? Also what do you think about the headphone jack does it work perfect or are there any issues?

chieco said:
I got the 16gb Ver. because I own a NAS for all my media files. so I thought I won't need a 500gb drive. Apps I believe I won't install many of them. And besides doesn't it have a micro sd card slot + 2 USB ports... they have a promotion going on right now (at least in Germany) where i got the remote for free. So Shield TV and the remote for 199€ which is still expensive but that seems to be the price for the best Hardware u can get. Also big part on me deciding to get the Shield TV was the headphone jack on the remote and controller for private listening. Do you think I made a mistake by choosing the Standard Ver.? Also what do you think about the headphone jack does it work perfect or are there any issues?
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I think the free remote is being offered everywhere. Yes the 16 gig is probably fine if you're not a heavy gamer. I don't have access to the 500GB hard drive which makes it somewhat useless and it also might be one of the recall unites. The headset seems to work fine I would love to try it with a microphone if they had any multiplayer android games.

chieco said:
I got the 16gb Ver. because I own a NAS for all my media files. so I thought I won't need a 500gb drive. Apps I believe I won't install many of them. And besides doesn't it have a micro sd card slot + 2 USB ports... they have a promotion going on right now (at least in Germany) where i got the remote for free. So Shield TV and the remote for 199€ which is still expensive but that seems to be the price for the best Hardware u can get. Also big part on me deciding to get the Shield TV was the headphone jack on the remote and controller for private listening. Do you think I made a mistake by choosing the Standard Ver.? Also what do you think about the headphone jack does it work perfect or are there any issues?
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I have the 16 GB also and have have a NAS like you, with 11 TB in it The shield does have a MicroSD and and two USB ports so you can add TONS of external storage, also Marshmallow (whenever Nvidia finally releases it) will suppport external storage as native storage, you can already store stuff on the MicroSD but not on the HDD. I currently have a 64 GB MicroSD and a 500 GB HDD connected to mine, I have a bunch of ROMs on the external HDD for RetroArch. Even though the Shield is touted as a gaming machine, I rarely play games on it, not because it sucks at gaming, mostly because I don't find a lot of the indie games that interesting and I find the Steam and GeForce experience apps useless for me since my PC is literally right next to my TV, so an HDMI connection to my TV from my PC is far better than going throught the Shield. Nvidia GameStream is pretty cool though and as cheap as Netflix, but once again there aren't a lot of interesting titles to me. I mostly just use it for Netflix and Kodi.
IMO root doesn't really add much to it, I took the plunge and rooted my first one (The v1.4 update bricked it) and then was like "now what?" there aren't really any custom kernels for it (that I know of, haven't really been active in this section in a while) and it lacks a lot of the normal root apps that one would find in the play store. If you want to use "normal" Android then that's a different story, I put normal Android on mine....and hated it. I'm perfectly happy with it using the stock Android TV build, which is extremely odd because I usually immediately root and flash a custom ROM to any Android device I get. Also getting into the bootloader/recovery menu is a MAJOR pain in the a$$ since there aren't any physical buttons on it, just the single capacitive button on top and you have to do a morse code-like tapping of that button to get into the recovery from a cold boot. Most annoying thing ever.
The only gripe I have with the Shield is that there isn't an on/off switch on the controller so I have to charge mine like every other day or so because it constantly stays on when I'm not using it. It seems to have a mind of it's own because sometimes it will stay on for an hour when untouched, other times it will turn off after 10 minutes of not being used.
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brando56894 said:
Marshmallow (whenever Nvidia finally releases it) will suppport external storage as native storage, you can already store stuff on the MicroSD but not on the HDD
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yeah saw that advertised in the official nvidia announcement video on youtube.
I currently have a 64 GB MicroSD
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was also planing to put my good old 64gb microsd card from my note 3 days in there which currently isn't used.
Even though the Shield is touted as a gaming machine, I rarely play games on it
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I also don't plan on gaming on it very much. I heard someone in a unboxing video mentioning that there is a Free 3 Months trail for their game streaming service maybe I use that trail but after looking up the titles online doesn't seem that much interesting.
Maybe some psx, psp, gamecube/wii emulation.
I mostly just use it for Netflix and Kodi.
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Yes Kodi was the reason why I got the Shield. I wanted the best possible experience for it.
IMO root doesn't really add much to it
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My main question regarding was that I was wondering if there is a certain FW or Build or something that would block all rooting. Right now I can't think of a reason for rooting the Shield but who knows maybe some App in the future needs root access.
Would I be out of luck if I would update my Shield to the most up to date FW? I would like to know. Or does it not matter on which FW I am and still root my Shield even with future updates?

I doubt anything would block root on it, Nvidia and Google seem to be pretty open about hacking it, they seem to treat it like a Nexus device (they provide system images for it and the bootloader is easily unlockable via the standard method) so I wouldn't really be worried about losing root in the future. We'll probably be seeing some new awesome games for it in the near future since Vulkan was officially released a few days ago (it's a low-overhead, bare metal, cross-platform GPU API) and Nvidia has already implemented it, along with Google and Valve (Steam).

I just ordered one as well. I'm currently using a Nexus Player, and it's not too bad, I just can't help knowing I'll have better results with everything with 3 gb vs 1 gb of ram. Having said that, I've used all of them at this point, and unlocking/rooting this will be closer to unlocking a Google device than the amazon fire. Unlocking that was one ridiculous task. The upside to rooting would be the ability to side load some apps and others like ad away, which could help out with folder apps (for example, EXFile explorer) and Youtube.

should i buy the mojo

Looking for a Kodi box plus emulation
Can the box run Dreamcast/PS1/PSP /N64 games well?
Should I chose the new firebox or an Intel atom cherry trail small media center

All I can say to this is I absolutely love my MOJO and would not replace it. But (there's always a but!) it can be a tough console to love and requires a bit of effort to get what you want from it. That said I would not change it and have even considered buying another as a back up.
Ultimately it does depend on what you want from it.
For me it's a brilliant one-stop place for my movies and games. I use KODI but I don't stream with it (though I am led to believe the box does this well) but instead have my personal media on an external drive along with my retro games. I flashed the console with UJD's Cyanogenmod 12.1 and have tailored it further still with the Top TV Launcher from the Play store. There have been some minor bumps along the way but I have resolved everything that I had problems with.
I would recommend not paying too much for one now if it can be avoided. I paid £60 brand new for mine and that is about right considering the required effort needed to get it running sweetly. I certainly wouldn't pay over £100 that some are trying to charge on eBay for second hand units.
As for emulation it is imho the best box I have bought for it. Some of the emus need a bit of work but they won't suffer because of anything the MOJO does wrong. N64 runs extremely well on both Retroarch and Mupen FZ Edition. I also recently installed Drastic which is amazing too. Dreamcast emulation is very old but still runs OK via Reicast. PSX is spot on, though I haven't tried PSP. The only downside with emulation here is the D-pad on the CTRLR. It is very stiff. I've gotten used to it but occasionally on fighting games it drives me nuts!

Wow fantastic response they are going for £60 ATM
Roughly same as fire box TV ,
Also could add extra and get a Intel atom cherry trail for £80
Nvidia shield is the bee knees but is around 150 which I don't have.

I'd say no, support for it is pretty much dead and current custom roms are fairly buggy.

I've had no issues with CM 12.1 personally. It has been extremely stable and problem free for me. The only thing I've heard is Netflix doesn't work, but I don't need that myself. If you do use it, you may wish to consider something else. Similarly, I don't have a 4K set, just a fairly standard 1080p TV. I don't know how the MOJO works with 4K, and I suspect you'd need to look elsewhere for that.
I came to this box from the OUYA, the Raspberry Pi (3), and I also had a Minix Neo U1. They are all compromises one way or the other. Even the Nvidia Shield is in some ways. Stuff may work on one but not the other, options may be available on that box but not on the other box. The compromises with the MOJO worked out better for me than the compromises the other boxes offered.
I'm not trying to convince you to buy one. If you have the money I'd say get the Shield as people seem to love it, and the MOJO is not a Shield replacement. What it is to me is a great game console and media player that I have tailored to suit me over time, and at this point I would not swap it out for anything else.

Just got the mojo on ebay for 35 delivered
So looks like it should be coming Tuesday.
Cm12 best option

CM 12.1 I would say personally, but you might want to try them all and see which works best for you. You can't really brick the MOJO once the recovery is installed. The files you'll need are around the forums somewhere. You might like the stock OS, who knows?
£35 all in? That's absolutely excellent. Even if you don't like it, for that price you can sell it on again and not lose anything.
I personally followed this guide to install the OS. It says it's for Remix but it helps with all of them. If you have any trouble I'm sure a good search around here will set you on your path. Chances are someone else will have experienced the same problem and posted here.
Once it's installed, first thing I would do is install a shutdown button as otherwise you'll just be unplugging to switch it off. I hate that myself, it can't be any good for the system. I use Quick Reboot Pro, but I think there's a free version. Also as I mentioned before I would try Top TV Launcher too. Many people do not like the stock Android interface on their TV's. I don't either tbh but I could cope with it, but Top TV Launcher is much better and nicely customisable once you know how it works. If you do decide to use CM 12.1, root is in the developer options.

K-Project said:
CM 12.1 I would say personally, but you might want to try them all and see which works best for you. You can't really brick the MOJO once the recovery is installed. The files you'll need are around the forums somewhere. You might like the stock OS, who knows?
£35 all in? That's absolutely excellent. Even if you don't like it, for that price you can sell it on again and not lose anything.
I personally followed this guide to install the OS. It says it's for Remix but it helps with all of them. If you have any trouble I'm sure a good search around here will set you on your path. Chances are someone else will have experienced the same problem and posted here.
Once it's installed, first thing I would do is install a shutdown button as otherwise you'll just be unplugging to switch it off. I hate that myself, it can't be any good for the system. I use Quick Reboot Pro, but I think there's a free version. Also as I mentioned before I would try Top TV Launcher too. Many people do not like the stock Android interface on their TV's. I don't either tbh but I could cope with it, but Top TV Launcher is much better and nicely customisable once you know how it works. If you do decide to use CM 12.1, root is in the developer options.
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Yes £25 pound won the bid but a tenner postage and packaging.
Thank you for the tips
Is it easy enough to add extra controllers i.e Xbox pad (i have adapter) and Bluetooth pads
Looking forward to Mario kart and fzero

You can add other pads for two player but to be honest you'll be using the CTRLR as the main controller for the system. You'll likely be better off with Bluetooth pads for multi player gaming (though the only one of those I've tried is the retail CTRLR) as the stock pad included uses up one of the two USB ports provided. This can be a pain if you use the other USB for storage, so you'll have to use a Bluetooth pad as a second controller rather than a wired one. Also I would note that the SD card slot is only really useful for installing OS's. If you try to use it when your new OS is installed it will mess up your wifi (i.e - it won't work). Just reserve the SD card slot for installation purposes only and don't use it as storage. It's a shame but there it is. Unless you stick with the stock OS where I believe it works fine.

Thanks for the heads up so if i want to add external storage another usb way is the way forward.

Yes that would be my recommendation. On mine I have the stock CTRLR in one USB (the 3.0 one) and my external 2Tb hard drive in the other. I've recently started using my retail CTRLR and this does not require a dongle. It's freed up a USB port but I don't really have anything to plug into it anyway beyond a wired pad for two player games.
I hope you enjoy it tbh, but I know people have been this way before and really disliked it. A lot of this was to do with the stock Android OS on a big TV, which is why I recommended the TV launcher above. But also a lot of folks just didn't like having to deal with it in such a manual way. Like I say I paid £60 for mine so could afford to be philosophical about it, as can you I suppose at £30. I suppose those who paid £200 upwards won't be as forgiving, and I would not have been either all told.

Well maybe i have bought a dud my own fault for not reading listing ,
As it was sold as used and not for spares or repairs
Unable to copy and paste but basically the seller maybe from here as apprantly he's gone to flash android tv and basically the unit goes into some sort of boot loop , he mentions 4 coloured balls.
Can I recover this ?

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Well maybe i have bought a dud my own fault for not reading listing ,
As it was sold as used and not for spares or repairs
Unable to copy and paste but basically the seller maybe from here as apprantly he's gone to flash android tv and basically the unit goes into some sort of boot loop , he mentions 4 coloured balls.
Can I recover this ?
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You most likely can recover this, unless it's a hardware issue. Search through the forums, there is a key combo to get into the recovery menu from boot up... it's something like CTRL-ALT-PRNT SCREEN-I. Failing that there is also the USB AtoA cable which will put you into fastboot mode on bootup, from there you can flash it with whatever you like.
Personally i like the Remix OS image... very stable, everything works including Netflix... I use my MOJO as a Moonlight streaming device that i stream all my Steam games to my TV with, then play from the comfort of my couch :victory:
Enjoy!

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Well maybe i have bought a dud my own fault for not reading listing ,
As it was sold as used and not for spares or repairs
Unable to copy and paste but basically the seller maybe from here as apprantly he's gone to flash android tv and basically the unit goes into some sort of boot loop , he mentions 4 coloured balls.
Can I recover this ?
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AH! This may be the same listing I was following for a short time. Yes the owner had tried to flash it himself but got stuck with it and didn't know what to do next. I was going to buy it as a backup (I've always got my eye out for a backup!).
It could be a hardware fault but personally I'll be amazed if you can't rescue it one way or the other. The MOJO is incredibly friendly to users and is (I'm told) difficult to actually brick. Unless it is a hardware issue, I don't think you'll have any bother installing TWRP recovery and then installing your chosen OS. There are more than enough quality guides on this site as long as you follow them closely.
I did try Remix myself and loved it. I would have stuck with it, but unfortunately it did not play nicely with my NTFS formatted 2Tb external drive. I had to install Paragon NTFS, but even then when playing back my media files using KODI the playback was a mess of jitter and stutter. No such issue with CM 12.1 - it recognises the drive no problem and playback is silky smooth. YMMV.