Thoughts on new Ouya 16GB +Controller

Thoughts on new Ouya 16GB +Controller - Ouya General

as a previous owner of two original Ouyas i have to say im extemely impressed with the new 16gb console and in my opinion is worth the extra $30. Dont know how many of you are using the console outside of just a simple plex/xbmc player but i would highly recommend it for anyone that is actually using the console for games.
Improvements i've noticed:
-Controllers have better grip
-I would previously need to lay the ouya on its belly for better controller response (no longer needed)
-As a movie lover it annoyed me that in xbmc i would scroll down, let go of the bottom arrow and still see the screen scrolling. So much that i would only navigate xbmc remotely with my Nexus 7 tablet and/or Moto X.
-Dont know if its a recent software update but im not seeing lag as i once saw when i would play a 1080p (8-12gb) file while the library was getting updated in the background.
issues:
-Wifi issues where it kept losing signal everytime i rebooted. temp fix was to go to advance and disable wifi and turn it back on. Perm fix was to factory restore it.
-Google Play/XBMC (Previous version that support DTS) have each crashed more (3 times each) in the last 2 days on the new consoles than the older model did in the last 6 months i've owned them.
New and Older Ouyas are Rooted, 720p fixed, Google Play enabled and overclocked during these tests.

Thank you for posting. I actually just picked up one of the original 8GB models at Target but I'm considering returning it due to the controller and wifi issues. It sounds like the controller is better, but after you did the factory reset does the WiFi perform better than on your 8GB console?

raptir said:
Thank you for posting. I actually just picked up one of the original 8GB models at Target but I'm considering returning it due to the controller and wifi issues. It sounds like the controller is better, but after you did the factory reset does the WiFi perform better than on your 8GB console?
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The wifi issues went away after a factory reset. i have all my ouyas hardwired so i rarely use wifi after setup. One thing i started doing was using a ps3 controller, worth for $30.

mejdam said:
The wifi issues went away after a factory reset. i have all my ouyas hardwired so i rarely use wifi after setup. One thing i started doing was using a ps3 controller, worth for $30.
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Great, thanks for the update. I've been using a PS3 controller (already have a PS3, so that was convenient) and it's made the control experience a lot better. Unfortunately I don't have ethernet where I have the Ouya. I decided to go ahead and return my 8GB and order a 16GB. Since I use the WiFi and am having issues with it I'll provide an update about the performance of the new one.

raptir said:
Great, thanks for the update. I've been using a PS3 controller (already have a PS3, so that was convenient) and it's made the control experience a lot better. Unfortunately I don't have ethernet where I have the Ouya. I decided to go ahead and return my 8GB and order a 16GB. Since I use the WiFi and am having issues with it I'll provide an update about the performance of the new one.
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if you're going to use XBMC a lot then i would recommend buying a Mele F10-PRO.

So I received the new one and it's a huge difference. The controller still isn't as responsive as the PS3 controller but it's fine even for action games like Killing Floor. I still run into some input trouble if I am downloading a game but that may be the console more so than the controller.
WiFi is hugely improved. The connection is better overall but it also supports 5GHz wireless. Games download about as quickly as I would expect to given their size.
Overall I'm very satisfied with the updated model.

Well, personally i bought the original 8gb from target last month, and its perfect, wifi works great it downloads 1gb in 15 mins not being so close to the modem and controller works at its best when at full battery, when battery power decreases, controller performance does too. I'll be waiting for a hardware improvememt to buy a new model, as mine is just new, oh! And I'm using mine hooked up to a 1tb HDD , and forme controller is fine, shoulder buttons are quite lazy and hard to press, but other than that is a flawless victory, dunnow why so many bullying bout the ouya.

BadWolff23 said:
dunnow why so many bullying bout the ouya.
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Because many people are not having the same experience that you are reporting. On my 8GB from Target I would frequently see issues with the WiFi and controller.
Anyway, I'm now seeing the problem with the WiFi described in the OP. About 1/3 of the time that I turn the Ouya on it will not see any wireless networks and I need to reboot. A factory reset did not resolve the issue.

raptir said:
Because many people are not having the same experience that you are reporting. On my 8GB from Target I would frequently see issues with the WiFi and controller.
Anyway, I'm now seeing the problem with the WiFi described in the OP. About 1/3 of the time that I turn the Ouya on it will not see any wireless networks and I need to reboot. A factory reset did not resolve the issue.
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Yaya i mean, general bullying bout it calling it a lame console and a waste of money, i feel 99 was a rob, and it should cost twice that price for all i can use with it, i believe its because peoplethinks android is just cellphone OS and that means cellphone lame games on a big screen which is not all of the ouya tricks, its definetely NOT a one trick pony, gosh as of right now, i'm playing meltdown while listening to spotify at the same time, playing online, no lag no controller high latency, nothing...i feel super lucky for the one i picked up, my only complain so far is the sound on the trigger buttons and the horrible UI of jackalope D:, what I DO want is to buy one of those black controllers for my personal use during MP sessions with doods

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Why i end up with the shield

this thread is gonna be about why i decided to buy nvidia shield.
but i'm not really a pro about this, so don't see this as a good info source
i'm actually not even sure if what i heard is correct, so if i'm wrong on anything, or know of a better choice, please do correct me
and thanks for reading
so i've been wanting a portable device since my last phone (droid incredible 2) sunk miserably into the washing machine
i don't really want a phone, because no one ever calls me (there are a lot of reasons i don't want a phone, this is just one of them)
so i turned onto tablets which brings me to the nexus 7 because it's in my budget of 300$
but there are a few minor things
i need a sd card slot, and a hdmi port, which both nexus 7 don't have
but since there aren't much portable (in which i mean less then 7 inches) devices that supports an hdmi port, i just decided to ignore that
which brings me to the nexus 4, which is a lot more portable which i like
and then i saw nvidia shield getting a price drop, which brings me to the topic, the nvidia shield
it's got a hdmi port, which i almost already gave up on, it also have a micro sd card slot which the nexus devices didn't have
it have a tegra 4 processor clocked at 1.9 ghz , which is better then the nexus 7, and even the nexus 4 which is at the same price point
it have 2gb of ram which nexus 7 only have one
and those are the reasons, which comes to the point that it's nothing about gaming
and that's why people are gonna think i'm dumb
so just to clear it up, i also have a gtx 660 oc which enables the pc streaming feature
and it also happens that i'm working on my own steam box, and got stuck at can't find a wireless controller for a pc
so those are all my reasons that i'm getting the nvidia shield, thanks for reading
again if i'm wrong about anything, please do correct me
also, this is my first time posting a thread, i tried my best to make sure everything is ok, but please do correct me too if i was wrong
your also welcome to discuss on the reply section

Actually sounds like you've done a bunch of homework on this already.
I can point out a few things about streaming...
1. It's possible to plug a wireless X-box 360 controller adapter into your PC and play from another nearby room via streaming, but the range isn't great. It also hits item #2.
2. Streaming quality - I've tried to find good streaming solutions in my home. I've got all the different "flavors" of Splashtop, I've tried different types of VNC and such. I'm going to be trying RemoteFX soon with RDP, but can't comment on that one yet. SHIELD has, so far, beat them all hands-down. The video quality is incredible compared to software like Splashtop. Latency is almost non-existent and I can play games like Monaco from my bed easily.
3. Wifi Bandwidth - You'll need a decent 5GHz wifi to really enjoy it. Unlike Splashtop, this takes up a lot of wifi bandwidth. But honestly, if you're going to stream over wifi, you might as well use some serious bandwidth for it. No point is having crappy quality just to have a bunch of unused wifi (at least in my opinion).
4. Comfort - Trying to play a game in bed or on the couch with a tablet and controller is uncomfortable to me. They're not really "built together" in a way that I find user friendly. I used to have an old Windows Tablet PC (before Apple even made a tablet and tried to claim first), and the problem with the keyboard for it was that you ended up with the screen on a "stand" and a keyboard. The keyboard was comfortable, but you couldn't use it in bed or anything because where were you going to put the screen stand?
Hope that give you more info about it, from my personal use cases on the devices.

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3. Wifi Bandwidth - You'll need a decent 5GHz wifi to really enjoy it. Unlike Splashtop, this takes up a lot of wifi bandwidth. But honestly, if you're going to stream over wifi, you might as well use some serious bandwidth for it. No point is having crappy quality just to have a bunch of unused wifi (at least in my opinion).
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Will it really be bad over 2.4GHz? I plan on upgrading soon but that's all I have right now. Does the quality suffer most or will it begin to lag first?

Reasons you SHOULD buy a M.O.J.O

There are many reasons to buy the device, but here are some of the highlights:
1. Runs stock Android. Not some heavily secured or modified version as seen on the FireTV, Ouya, etc
2. Rooting does NOT void your warranty. The company (Mad Catz) actually EMBRACES it!
3. It is bar non the most powerful Android set top box available today. No other cheap knockoff compares.
4. It contains the well renowned Nvidia Tegra 4 processor and all of the power that comes with it.
5. The controller is a nice, solid piece of equipment equivalent to a Xbox 360 controller
6. It has USB 3.0 (very few tv boxes have this)
7. It handles a slew of addons. I have a 7-port USB 3 hub, 2TB hard drive, two USB controllers, wireless mouse and keyboard.
8. It's more than just a game console. It has literally become my PC. It is that powerful!
9. It has nothing to do with "Amiga and Wolves". Actually, there is a UAE emulator, so it does have something to do with the Amiga...so that is ok. As long as it has nothing to do with the prior
10. It is priced *right* at $199. Once you realize how versatile this device is, it is a bargain. I almost want a second one as a spare, but will wait to see if any K1 boxes come out in the future.
There are many more reasons of course, but that is my top ten list. Great device!

I agree..
But lately I bought my second CTRLR and would say that the CTRLR is actually the best part of MOJO!
As time goes on, others are catching up with the mojo's specs... while the CTRLR is really unique.
Im no order:
1. Travel clip for your mobile (better then the shield IMHO)
2. Mouse mode is really excellent, especially compared to other consoles that dont have it
3. PC/Mac gamepad, including mouse mood.. I use mine as a wireless mouse and yes media keys work!
4. Great battery life and AAA is good because i have rechargables for remotes
5. Excellent build quality
6. Media keys.. Works great and i can use then without looking
7. BT4 ready for new devices

I think the MOJO is a good stational alternative to Shield but then the price is a little high cuz you get the same hardware in a mobile device for the same price.
If they would reduce the price to at least $150, I'd think about buying one to replace my Ouya.

Honestly, I've stopped using mine. I'll sell it for $150. It's rooted, of course.

ExtremeRyno said:
Honestly, I've stopped using mine. I'll sell it for $150. It's rooted, of course.
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Can I ask why you stopped using your MOJO? Just curious.
Gaming is the main reason why you should buy a MOJO. Great for emulation and certain android games. The selection of games isn't bad, I mean how many android games can you play at a time? There is plenty of material of solid games that can take up quite a bit of time. Media playback is mediocre for me. Price is too high for what you get. I agree with gwaldo, the controller is awesome. If kit Kat comes and ouya store comes and some bug fixes come, i'd say its a great system. I would however need a replacement if I were to get rid of it, because I love the android on big screen and mojo does well with it overall. It's by far my fastest android I have. Just needs some fine tuning and I hope it comes

I wanted a streaming media giant that played all my console games... The experience is less than ideal streaming media-wise with the MOJO. I dunno...I still use it for game emulation sometimes, but it has been at least a month. I love the controller, though.
I actually bought a Note PRO 12.2, and since then I spend more time on it than any other device. I have it paired with a keyboard and controller so it does everything I wanted the MOJO for except Tegra 4...which I am living without. It's like having my own TV and my wife can't change the show on Netflix or make me turn my game off. The SPen is the icing on the cake, really.

I just got a new Shield tablet, what are the first things I should do?

Hey guys,
First of all, Im a new proud owner of the LTE 32GB Shield Tablet with the Nvidia controller after watching some youtube videos.
I was such a noob that while I was searching the web, I kept getting Nvidia Shiled and Nvidia Shield tablet confused! I didnt realize that their names were so similar which made searching for Roms compatibility a bit difficult.
Some of things I noticed:
1. updated to lollipop right away after I turned it on and deleted FB app and instagram app (just in case) from what I read here. Feels snappy enough that I dont think I need to do a factory reset.
2. Tried several of my App games but many didnt recognize the controller. Bummer.
-Need for speed hot pursuit didnt
-MC4 right analog wont turn my head so its impossible to aim
3. Installed PPSSPP so far the best emulator so far on the tablet. The aspect ratio seems to be very similar to PSP so it makes sense.
4. Snes 9x is good for the SNES roms but I dont know what happened to that other SNES emulator that I downloaded many months ago but no longer appears under my account. I forget the name of it but it was way better than this SNES 9x emulator.
5. Great overall tablet. A bit on the heavy side. Power button is probably the worst I've ever experienced. However, once I get the case, Im sure I wont need it as much.
6. I have a library of games on steam but disappointed that I have to rebuy half life 2 and portal to play it on my tablet.
7. Lack of library games on the Nvidia Hub.
Questions:
1. Do you guys keep your tab on at all times or do you turn it off at night?
2. Are there other android games I can use the controller with? If so, how do I get it so the buttons are configured correctly?
Thank you so much!

First thing? Buy the cover, it's awesome. There's magnets in it so it does't flop around open or closed and when you prop it up, the magnets hold the wedge in place.
But yea the power button sucks. First thing I did was upgrade to Lollipop then second thing I did was downgrade to Kitkat lol. No xposed and the single notification pull down were the deal breakers.
Haven't tried too much gaming but I do keep mine on at night, it's my alarm clock. Battery is great for me, my thing says I'm good for 5.5 hours use of battery and 5 days of standby.
Root it of course too There's a volume mod I found somewhere, for me Netflix is very quiet. Plus you need to unlock write privileges for the SD card.
64/128 gb SD card obviously too.

Tastycakess said:
First thing? Buy the cover, it's awesome. There's magnets in it so it does't flop around open or closed and when you prop it up, the magnets hold the wedge in place.
But yea the power button sucks. First thing I did was upgrade to Lollipop then second thing I did was downgrade to Kitkat lol. No xposed and the single notification pull down were the deal breakers.
Haven't tried too much gaming but I do keep mine on at night, it's my alarm clock. Battery is great for me, my thing says I'm good for 5.5 hours use of battery and 5 days of standby.
Root it of course too There's a volume mod I found somewhere, for me Netflix is very quiet. Plus you need to unlock write privileges for the SD card.
64/128 gb SD card obviously too.
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Unlock write privilages? How?
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malhaarkale said:
Unlock write privilages? How?
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If you are in kitat and rooted (towelroot, easy...), I use:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix&hl=en
I think Lollipop needs to mature, so I will wait to 5.0.1, I hope soon...

You should never root a device as soon as you get it. Wait a few days first to make sure everything works before you start tinkering.

I rooted my device as soon as it was powered on. I get your point but without root I don't have much use for the tablet

mcord11758 said:
I rooted my device as soon as it was powered on. I get your point but without root I don't have much use for the tablet
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Same here but in the case of the Nvidia Shiled, I chose to suffer a bit to wait out any issues that might come up before rooting it.

mcord11758 said:
I rooted my device as soon as it was powered on. I get your point but without root I don't have much use for the tablet
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Just out of curiosity, why do you root? sorry for bummer I am newbie

Ruturaj001 said:
Just out of curiosity, why do you root? sorry for bummer I am newbie
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Reasons for rooting vary. For this Tablet these are the things I needed root for so far
Using titanium backup to restore app data for games my kids play
Installing modified file to allow my ouya controller to pair and have buttons mapped
Installing folder mount to fix writing to external sd and move allot of my larger game files to external which is 64gb vs 16 internal. I would already be over my internal capacity without this
In the future if nvidia leaves issues in firmware that a developer here can fix it is nice to be able to have the freedom to try

xelemental said:
Hey guys,
First of all, Im a new proud owner of the LTE 32GB Shield Tablet with the Nvidia controller after watching some youtube videos.
I was such a noob that while I was searching the web, I kept getting Nvidia Shiled and Nvidia Shield tablet confused! I didnt realize that their names were so similar which made searching for Roms compatibility a bit difficult.
Some of things I noticed:
1. updated to lollipop right away after I turned it on and deleted FB app and instagram app (just in case) from what I read here. Feels snappy enough that I dont think I need to do a factory reset.
2. Tried several of my App games but many didnt recognize the controller. Bummer.
-Need for speed hot pursuit didnt
-MC4 right analog wont turn my head so its impossible to aim
3. Installed PPSSPP so far the best emulator so far on the tablet. The aspect ratio seems to be very similar to PSP so it makes sense.
4. Snes 9x is good for the SNES roms but I dont know what happened to that other SNES emulator that I downloaded many months ago but no longer appears under my account. I forget the name of it but it was way better than this SNES 9x emulator.
5. Great overall tablet. A bit on the heavy side. Power button is probably the worst I've ever experienced. However, once I get the case, Im sure I wont need it as much.
6. I have a library of games on steam but disappointed that I have to rebuy half life 2 and portal to play it on my tablet.
7. Lack of library games on the Nvidia Hub.
Questions:
1. Do you guys keep your tab on at all times or do you turn it off at night?
2. Are there other android games I can use the controller with? If so, how do I get it so the buttons are configured correctly?
Thank you so much!
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the controller is mappable to many games,hold the back button in the hame you have selected and then drag and drop controls and you can playba?lt pf gamesthis way,but you probably know this now though or it will download specific cpntrols from the web, this tablet is excellent,cant really fault it,imnot rooting this this time i have two other devjces both roooted amd running custom stuff but i have not found a specific reasom why i would want to root this time,i lobe thetjing the way it is.
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xelemental said:
Hey guys,
First of all, Im a new proud owner of the LTE 32GB Shield Tablet with the Nvidia controller after watching some youtube videos.
I was such a noob that while I was searching the web, I kept getting Nvidia Shiled and Nvidia Shield tablet confused! I didnt realize that their names were so similar which made searching for Roms compatibility a bit difficult.
Some of things I noticed:
1. updated to lollipop right away after I turned it on and deleted FB app and instagram app (just in case) from what I read here. Feels snappy enough that I dont think I need to do a factory reset.
2. Tried several of my App games but many didnt recognize the controller. Bummer.
-Need for speed hot pursuit didnt
-MC4 right analog wont turn my head so its impossible to aim
3. Installed PPSSPP so far the best emulator so far on the tablet. The aspect ratio seems to be very similar to PSP so it makes sense.
4. Snes 9x is good for the SNES roms but I dont know what happened to that other SNES emulator that I downloaded many months ago but no longer appears under my account. I forget the name of it but it was way better than this SNES 9x emulator.
5. Great overall tablet. A bit on the heavy side. Power button is probably the worst I've ever experienced. However, once I get the case, Im sure I wont need it as much.
6. I have a library of games on steam but disappointed that I have to rebuy half life 2 and portal to play it on my tablet.
7. Lack of library games on the Nvidia Hub.
Questions:
1. Do you guys keep your tab on at all times or do you turn it off at night?
2. Are there other android games I can use the controller with? If so, how do I get it so the buttons are configured correctly?
Thank you so much!
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the controller is mappable to many games,hold the back button in the game you have selected and then drag and drop controls and you can play a lot of games this way,but you probably know this now though or it will download specific controls from the web, this tablet is excellent,cant really fault it,im not rooting this this time i have two other devjces both roooted amd running custom stuff but i have not found a specific reason why i would want to root this time,i love the thing the way it is.

Ruturaj001 said:
Just out of curiosity, why do you root? sorry for bummer I am newbie
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Because I can
Sent from my Xperia Z1 Compact using Tapatalk

xelemental said:
1. updated to lollipop right away after I turned it on and deleted FB app and instagram app (just in case) from what I read here. Feels snappy enough that I dont think I need to do a factory reset.
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How did you upgrade right after getting it??? I'm not being prompted for a system update and it tells me there are no further updates and developers.nvidia.com doesn't even have them posted...

I got Lollipop on day #1 ...which for me was back in November. 5.0 has been out for a while...
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... That being said ... oh gawd I miss KitKat. Lollipop was a laughable upgrade. I don't see any major performance improvement. The single notification is a mess. Memory management seems worse. And I hate to say it but I miss xposed.
I don't feel like the tablet is my own anymore. Google has made the experience just so generic. Kind of Apple-ish. Maybe if they are ever able to port xposed to ART, it'd be better. I don't know why, but somehow, I doubt it's going to happen.
I'll probably downgrade again soon, but don't know that nvidia will continue to support KitKat anymore.

Ruturaj001 said:
Just out of curiosity, why do you root? sorry for bummer I am newbie
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Some apps (Tasker, Titanium Backup, etc) require root.
Having root also allows you to uninstall the bloatware that eats up the storage you paid for.
"Because I can" is a valid answer as well. If you can't root it, you don't own it.

Get yourself a controller mount ASAP and you will love the tablet.

RiffyDivine said:
Get yourself a controller mount ASAP and you will love the tablet.
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Do you have a recommendation?

Art blows dalvik away in performance gains. I like the new drop down. But I have been using lollipop since June. I just got this thing today and the thing runs circles around the nexus 9. The big thing lollipop brings is a ton more security checks.
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ailima said:
Do you have a recommendation?
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The Ipega http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OZEO576/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 is amazing and since it can do both orientations it wins every time. However if you got the offical controller there is always http://www.shapeways.com/model/2843...controller.html?li=shop-results&materialId=25 which fit perfectly and does a very good job but will only hold it in widescreen which makes it a bit weird to do DS games on it.

RiffyDivine said:
The Ipega http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OZEO576/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 is amazing and since it can do both orientations it wins every time. However if you got the offical controller there is always http://www.shapeways.com/model/2843...controller.html?li=shop-results&materialId=25 which fit perfectly and does a very good job but will only hold it in widescreen which makes it a bit weird to do DS games on it.
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Thanks!
I've seen the Shapeways one and have almost bought it in a couple occasions but it seems like the weight of the tablet would be uncomfortable with it being so far on top. The Ipega one looks interesting. I like my Shield controller though. How does the controller portion compare?

M.O.J.O Price starting to drop

I figured this would happen because of the shield. tv. Amazon selling MOJO for $99.99 now.

Nah, I think it's just temporary. Bought my MOJO for the same price 5 months ago. They decrease the price every couple of months or so, and jump them back to the $130-145 range.

I doubt it, I think the MOJO was bad financially for madcatz.. I'm guessing it's stock clearing.

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I figured this would happen because of the shield. tv. Amazon selling MOJO for $99.99 now.
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Thats a shame. The MOJO is an incredibly frustrating device out of the box but, once you figure out fixes to all it problems/quirks? It becomes an absolute MUST-HAVE device.
One of these days i'm going to make a thread detailing all my fixes for the MOJO. Right now i'm working on my last one:
Which is being able to connect to PC to load/modify files. Merely connecting the MOJO to the PC with USB is simply not going to happen. Someone suggested Samadroid, which is a method of connecting android devices over Wi-Fi, eliminating the hassles of USB drivers in windows. Seemed to work great.
However, just when i thought i had conquered the MOJO i have a new problem: Everytime i try to delete or modify a file on my SD card in the MOJO using Sambadroid, i get an error saying "permission is needed for access" or whatever. So far nothing I've tried had worked, including rebooting Windows 7 in safe mode.
Any help or suggestions?

I just put a FTP server on android, it starts in the background and is always running.
Then use filezilla (cuteftp or flashfxp etc.) to hook into the MOJO.
I use it for my MINIX boxes as well as it saves having to hook a USB cable up to them. Ive got ethernet connection to all my Android boxes so it's actually faster than transferring via USB as well

Didn't I tell you the price would jump back again? lol
I have been watching the price for the device ever since it came out. The $99 price tag occured at least 4 times now.
http://www.amazon.com/M-O-J-O-Micro-Console-Android-Not-Machine-Specific/dp/B00FM5IS48

Yeap, your right. That price is ridiculous, you get so much for your money with the shield Tv. I advise every to spend the extra 50 bucks for the shield Tv. I bought two of them, and they seriously kick ass. Fiber optics is a must if you want to use Grid service. I just switched from TWC to Bell Fiber optics and I am now paying less actually for much better service.

subcreep said:
Yeap, your right. That price is ridiculous, you get so much for your money with the shield Tv. I advise every to spend the extra 50 bucks for the shield Tv. I bought two of them, and they seriously kick ass. Fiber optics is a must if you want to use Grid service. I just switched from TWC to Bell Fiber optics and I am now paying less actually for much better service.
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The shield Tv has a cooling fan in it though. Like most devices of this type, its most likely proprietary and can't be easily fixed. Once that fan dies, you might as well chuck the box. One cool thing about the MOJO is it is fanless, and thus future-proof.
The MOJO is pretty awesome once you figure out it quirks. Although I admit that most will quit long before they do so. I was in love with the idea of the MOJO from the get-go, so i had a lot of incentive not to give up out of frustration everytime the MOJO shot down my attempts to get it to function properly.

PSP-Fan said:
The shield Tv has a cooling fan in it though. Like most devices of this type, its most likely proprietary and can't be easily fixed. Once that fan dies, you might as well chuck the box. One cool thing about the MOJO is it is fanless, and thus future-proof.
The MOJO is pretty awesome once you figure out it quirks. Although I admit that most will quit long before they do so. I was in love with the idea of the MOJO from the get-go, so i had a lot of incentive not to give up out of frustration everytime the MOJO shot down my attempts to get it to function properly.
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I'm curious about what you think makes the MOJO a must have device? I just bought mine, should be coming in a few days. Was planning on using it for Kodi and throwing a bunch of old emulators on there.
You also mentioned that it's great once you get all the quirks figured out and fixed. Care to elaborate? I would like to know what I'm getting myself into.
Thanks!

icekxg said:
I'm curious about what you think makes the MOJO a must have device? I just bought mine, should be coming in a few days. Was planning on using it for Kodi and throwing a bunch of old emulators on there.
You also mentioned that it's great once you get all the quirks figured out and fixed. Care to elaborate? I would like to know what I'm getting myself into.
Thanks!
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You will definitely need my help then. Because the MOJO is a colossal pain in the A$$.
I've been meaning to make a thread detailing all my fixes & solutions for it but, not till I've fixed the last one. Which is ease of file transfer (without actually removing my SD card each and every time i want to add/modify files). Been kinda procrastinating on that one lately.
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For one thing, to get the most out of the MOJO, you need to root it. Mad Catz actually have tutorials on their site.
However, it MUST be connected to a PC for it to work. One of the many problems MOJO has, is the complete inability to connect the console to a PC by USB, and have it be properly recognized. Which makes rooting 100x more difficult.
Thankfully, there is an app that exists which you can download onto your MOJO from the internet. Its called Towelroot(V1.0) and is extremely easy to use. Once you've downloaded the app, launch it, click yes to root, your MOJO will reboot itself, and come back rooted. Only V1.0 will work!
Here's the link to the one i used:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/oxrryya4ffs4w6u/tr-1.apk

Thanks for the suggestion. Just received the Mojo a few hours ago. So far installed and ran towelroot, then supersu, GMD auto hide, Set Orientation, ES file explorer, and Amazon App store.
Currently looking for decent emulators to install.

icekxg said:
Thanks for the suggestion. Just received the Mojo a few hours ago. So far installed and ran towelroot, then supersu, GMD auto hide, Set Orientation, ES file explorer, and Amazon App store.
Currently looking for decent emulators to install.
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I have an app on my MOJO, i think its called "Fullscreen!". It gets rid of the bottom button row, and instead places two lil'transparent nubs on the bottom right & left corners of the screen. For home and back button functionality.
Does your mojo output sound on both 720p as well as 1080p? One problem i had is the image was too damned zoomed in on 1080p, losing the edges of the screen. On 720p it looked perfect but.... no sound output! Finally i downloaded an app that let me adjust the 1080p resolution/size to something that is much better. Its still not perfect but, i get 99.11% of my image now, as opposed to 84%. prior to the app.
And have you had any luck connecting the unit to a PC by USB and getting a computer to recognize it? After trying tons of android USB drivers, getting my windows 7 comp to properly recognize the MOJO just wasn't going to happen.
The MOJO was a massive pain in the A$$ but, i'm glad i stuck with it. Emulators on this thing run like a dream. PPSSPP, a Sony PSP emulator, runs great.

The GMD Auto Hide app basically does the same thing as the fullscreen one you're talking about. It hides the bottom row but they'll reappear when you mouse over them.
So far I'm in 1080p with full sound. No issues there. Maybe because of your TV brand? I have mine hooked up to an LG 50LN5400.
I have not tried to plug the MOJO into my PC yet. I've only used the FTP server or just place roms onto a micro xdsc. I'll give it a shot and let you if it works or not.
I agree about the emulators. The MOJO is a fantastic box for emulation. Sure, I could run all of them on my PC, but I'd rather kick back in my lazy boy, fire up a game using a controller with beer in hand

Ordered mine.... what now?

Hello fellow Humans,
I ordered my shield TV this weekend directly from nvidia and should get it this week! :victory:
I was wondering if there is something I should do like avoiding updates that block rooting or something like that. I know that on Amazon's Fire TV and sticks rooting is not possible due to updates.... is there maybe anything else like Hardware related that I should keep an eye on? When it comes to the Shield TV I'm a total noob. I would simply like to know what I definitely should and shouldn't do.

chieco said:
Hello fellow Humans,
I ordered my shield TV this weekend directly from nvidia and should get it this week! :victory:
I was wondering if there is something I should do like avoiding updates that block rooting or something like that. I know that on Amazon's Fire TV and sticks rooting is not possible due to updates.... is there maybe anything else like Hardware related that I should keep an eye on? When it comes to the Shield TV I'm a total noob. I would simply like to know what I definitely should and shouldn't do.
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Standard or Pro model?

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Standard or Pro model?
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I got the 16gb Ver. because I own a NAS for all my media files. so I thought I won't need a 500gb drive. Apps I believe I won't install many of them. And besides doesn't it have a micro sd card slot + 2 USB ports... they have a promotion going on right now (at least in Germany) where i got the remote for free. So Shield TV and the remote for 199€ which is still expensive but that seems to be the price for the best Hardware u can get. Also big part on me deciding to get the Shield TV was the headphone jack on the remote and controller for private listening. Do you think I made a mistake by choosing the Standard Ver.? Also what do you think about the headphone jack does it work perfect or are there any issues?

chieco said:
I got the 16gb Ver. because I own a NAS for all my media files. so I thought I won't need a 500gb drive. Apps I believe I won't install many of them. And besides doesn't it have a micro sd card slot + 2 USB ports... they have a promotion going on right now (at least in Germany) where i got the remote for free. So Shield TV and the remote for 199€ which is still expensive but that seems to be the price for the best Hardware u can get. Also big part on me deciding to get the Shield TV was the headphone jack on the remote and controller for private listening. Do you think I made a mistake by choosing the Standard Ver.? Also what do you think about the headphone jack does it work perfect or are there any issues?
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I think the free remote is being offered everywhere. Yes the 16 gig is probably fine if you're not a heavy gamer. I don't have access to the 500GB hard drive which makes it somewhat useless and it also might be one of the recall unites. The headset seems to work fine I would love to try it with a microphone if they had any multiplayer android games.

chieco said:
I got the 16gb Ver. because I own a NAS for all my media files. so I thought I won't need a 500gb drive. Apps I believe I won't install many of them. And besides doesn't it have a micro sd card slot + 2 USB ports... they have a promotion going on right now (at least in Germany) where i got the remote for free. So Shield TV and the remote for 199€ which is still expensive but that seems to be the price for the best Hardware u can get. Also big part on me deciding to get the Shield TV was the headphone jack on the remote and controller for private listening. Do you think I made a mistake by choosing the Standard Ver.? Also what do you think about the headphone jack does it work perfect or are there any issues?
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I have the 16 GB also and have have a NAS like you, with 11 TB in it The shield does have a MicroSD and and two USB ports so you can add TONS of external storage, also Marshmallow (whenever Nvidia finally releases it) will suppport external storage as native storage, you can already store stuff on the MicroSD but not on the HDD. I currently have a 64 GB MicroSD and a 500 GB HDD connected to mine, I have a bunch of ROMs on the external HDD for RetroArch. Even though the Shield is touted as a gaming machine, I rarely play games on it, not because it sucks at gaming, mostly because I don't find a lot of the indie games that interesting and I find the Steam and GeForce experience apps useless for me since my PC is literally right next to my TV, so an HDMI connection to my TV from my PC is far better than going throught the Shield. Nvidia GameStream is pretty cool though and as cheap as Netflix, but once again there aren't a lot of interesting titles to me. I mostly just use it for Netflix and Kodi.
IMO root doesn't really add much to it, I took the plunge and rooted my first one (The v1.4 update bricked it) and then was like "now what?" there aren't really any custom kernels for it (that I know of, haven't really been active in this section in a while) and it lacks a lot of the normal root apps that one would find in the play store. If you want to use "normal" Android then that's a different story, I put normal Android on mine....and hated it. I'm perfectly happy with it using the stock Android TV build, which is extremely odd because I usually immediately root and flash a custom ROM to any Android device I get. Also getting into the bootloader/recovery menu is a MAJOR pain in the a$$ since there aren't any physical buttons on it, just the single capacitive button on top and you have to do a morse code-like tapping of that button to get into the recovery from a cold boot. Most annoying thing ever.
The only gripe I have with the Shield is that there isn't an on/off switch on the controller so I have to charge mine like every other day or so because it constantly stays on when I'm not using it. It seems to have a mind of it's own because sometimes it will stay on for an hour when untouched, other times it will turn off after 10 minutes of not being used.
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Marshmallow (whenever Nvidia finally releases it) will suppport external storage as native storage, you can already store stuff on the MicroSD but not on the HDD
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yeah saw that advertised in the official nvidia announcement video on youtube.
I currently have a 64 GB MicroSD
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was also planing to put my good old 64gb microsd card from my note 3 days in there which currently isn't used.
Even though the Shield is touted as a gaming machine, I rarely play games on it
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I also don't plan on gaming on it very much. I heard someone in a unboxing video mentioning that there is a Free 3 Months trail for their game streaming service maybe I use that trail but after looking up the titles online doesn't seem that much interesting.
Maybe some psx, psp, gamecube/wii emulation.
I mostly just use it for Netflix and Kodi.
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Yes Kodi was the reason why I got the Shield. I wanted the best possible experience for it.
IMO root doesn't really add much to it
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My main question regarding was that I was wondering if there is a certain FW or Build or something that would block all rooting. Right now I can't think of a reason for rooting the Shield but who knows maybe some App in the future needs root access.
Would I be out of luck if I would update my Shield to the most up to date FW? I would like to know. Or does it not matter on which FW I am and still root my Shield even with future updates?

I doubt anything would block root on it, Nvidia and Google seem to be pretty open about hacking it, they seem to treat it like a Nexus device (they provide system images for it and the bootloader is easily unlockable via the standard method) so I wouldn't really be worried about losing root in the future. We'll probably be seeing some new awesome games for it in the near future since Vulkan was officially released a few days ago (it's a low-overhead, bare metal, cross-platform GPU API) and Nvidia has already implemented it, along with Google and Valve (Steam).

I just ordered one as well. I'm currently using a Nexus Player, and it's not too bad, I just can't help knowing I'll have better results with everything with 3 gb vs 1 gb of ram. Having said that, I've used all of them at this point, and unlocking/rooting this will be closer to unlocking a Google device than the amazon fire. Unlocking that was one ridiculous task. The upside to rooting would be the ability to side load some apps and others like ad away, which could help out with folder apps (for example, EXFile explorer) and Youtube.

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