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Been looking a the Shield for the last few days and haven't pulled the trigger yet. I have a Droid DNA and Moga controller, so I am not sure if its worth it on the Android side of the Shield. And then my main gaming PC is a laptop with a 750M GPU (kepler) and I don't want to get stuck with the mobile GPUs not being supported. So I am wondering if it is worth it for just he Android games (given I have a phone/controller already) or uif I should gamble that I would be able to stream PC games in the future?
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Been looking a the Shield for the last few days and haven't pulled the trigger yet. I have a Droid DNA and Moga controller, so I am not sure if its worth it on the Android side of the Shield. And then my main gaming PC is a laptop with a 750M GPU (kepler) and I don't want to get stuck with the mobile GPUs not being supported. So I am wondering if it is worth it for just he Android games (given I have a phone/controller already) or uif I should gamble that I would be able to stream PC games in the future?
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Personally I would wait. I bought it for both, but unless emulators of old games will endlessly occupy you, PC streaming is the star of the show (even though I'm having system requirement issues and haven't tried it yet).
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Yeah that's what I am afraid of. Its a lot of money to spend to not know if I will be able to take full advantage of it (outside of building a PC).
Character Zero said:
Yeah that's what I am afraid of. Its a lot of money to spend to not know if I will be able to take full advantage of it (outside of building a PC).
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There are some other reasons just besides gaming device to buy this.
If you watch a lot of Netflix the Shield is worth it. You can prop up the screen, and watch videos without having to hold up a tablet. The miniHDMI makes it easy to plug the Shield into the TV and use apps like XDA. It could be used as a mobile home theater device. It's even great as a portable boombox because of the loud speakers.
In addition my PC streaming problem is processor specific.... My processor exceeds the requirements by almost twice what they say (I have two Xeon processors).
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Character Zero said:
Been looking a the Shield for the last few days and haven't pulled the trigger yet. I have a Droid DNA and Moga controller, so I am not sure if its worth it on the Android side of the Shield. And then my main gaming PC is a laptop with a 750M GPU (kepler) and I don't want to get stuck with the mobile GPUs not being supported. So I am wondering if it is worth it for just he Android games (given I have a phone/controller already) or uif I should gamble that I would be able to stream PC games in the future?
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I have a SGS3 and a GameKlip. So I kind of under stand where you are coming from.
IMO the shield is a premium device. Its like my SGS3/Gameklip is Folger's coffee and the shield is fresh ground Starbucks.
The controller. The speakers. The huge battery. Its all top notch stuff that may be overkill in most ppls mind but if you really enjoy gaming it might be for you. The PC streaming for me is a bonus. I may build a PC to get streaming set up on but its not a priority.
Mostly for me this thing was bought for emulation of old consoles, android gaming and as a media player for around the house (using to play Pandora around the house IS NICE). Sure my phone will do all that. But the shield will do it all so much better.
s0me guy said:
I have a SGS3 and a GameKlip. So I kind of under stand where you are coming from.
IMO the shield is a premium device. Its like my SGS3/Gameklip is Folger's coffee and the shield is fresh ground Starbucks.
The controller. The speakers. The huge battery. Its all top notch stuff that may be overkill in most ppls mind but if you really enjoy gaming it might be for you. The PC streaming for me is a bonus. I may build a PC to get streaming set up on but its not a priority.
Mostly for me this thing was bought for emulation of old consoles, android gaming and as a media player for around the house (using to play Pandora around the house IS NICE). Sure my phone will do all that. But the shield will do it all so much better.
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You make a good point about the media player aspect. I have a Vita and a 3DS along with all the consoles that I just have no time to play. I am kind of crazy with game consoles, but not sure if I need another one.
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You make a good point about the media player aspect. I have a Vita and a 3DS along with all the consoles that I just have no time to play. I am kind of crazy with game consoles, but not sure if I need another one.
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Lol. you sound a bit like me.
I literally just bought a brand new in sealed box Nintendo DSlite to play slot 1 & 2 flash carts with. Then I buy this thing. To be honest every other console I own is about to get neglected for the foreseeable future. My phone is also starting to get neglected too. Browsing the web is much more fun with shield than my S3. Still not as good as my laptop but the using the anolog sticks and triggers make for a pretty nice way to navigate the web browser.
Posting this fro shield too FYI.
I've definitely enjoyed my Shield. Originally, I was planning to use it mainly for media consumption, but then I downloaded GTA III of the Play Store and it was on. I've spent hours playing GTA just messing around with the cops and driving around.
It still is a good media consumption device too. I can sit it down and watch it, or hold it up while keeping my hands comfortable by adjusting the screen. Once you get the hang of the little analog stick clicking and flicking to pull down menus, scroll, etc. it's pretty great.
The WiFi implementation is superb. It peaks at 300 Mbps on 5 GHz (full 2x2:2 802.11n). The speakers are very loud. I can usually keep my volume set at about 30% when using the device in my house.
The only drawback is that it's pretty heavy. It doesn't really bother me because I'm usually resting my arms on something when I use it, but if you're expecting the weight of a 3DS or Vita, you're going to be disappointed.
cgutman said:
I've definitely enjoyed my Shield. Originally, I was planning to use it mainly for media consumption, but then I downloaded GTA III of the Play Store and it was on. I've spent hours playing GTA just messing around with the cops and driving around.
It still is a good media consumption device too. I can sit it down and watch it, or hold it up while keeping my hands comfortable by adjusting the screen. Once you get the hang of the little analog stick clicking and flicking to pull down menus, scroll, etc. it's pretty great.
The WiFi implementation is superb. It peaks at 300 Mbps on 5 GHz (full 2x2:2 802.11n). The speakers are very loud. I can usually keep my volume set at about 30% when using the device in my house.
The only drawback is that it's pretty heavy. It doesn't really bother me because I'm usually resting my arms on something when I use it, but if you're expecting the weight of a 3DS or Vita, you're going to be disappointed.
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Speaking of the weight, based on the thread title, I was going to respond: It is 1.5 pounds- You can dooo iiiitt!
I am tempted to get this, but might wait for a price drop to $250.... I wish Best Buy stocked these puppies to try out in store.
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Speaking of the weight, based on the thread title, I was going to respond: It is 1.5 pounds- You can dooo iiiitt!
I am tempted to get this, but might wait for a price drop to $250.... I wish Best Buy stocked these puppies to try out in store.
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If you are lucky enough to have a Microcenter near you I believe they have them on display top try out. They did before launch anyway.
Unfortunately no Microcenter and no Gamestop with display for me. But all of the reviews are raving, I can't seem to find one bad review. Except the game streaming is a huge part of the glowing reviews, and since I have a laptop (with a Kepler GPU, so capable) I don't know if I want to gamble on being able to stream down the line. I do like the idea of a Dedicated Android hand held. Using a Moga with my phone just doesn't seem right, plus it kills battery.
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Unfortunately no Microcenter and no Gamestop with display for me. But all of the reviews are raving, I can't seem to find one bad review. Except the game streaming is a huge part of the glowing reviews, and since I have a laptop (with a Kepler GPU, so capable) I don't know if I want to gamble on being able to stream down the line. I do like the idea of a Dedicated Android hand held. Using a Moga with my phone just doesn't seem right, plus it kills battery.
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The Austin area has one at GameStop (as well as me having one)
Made the impulse purchase this morning. Newegg had the case in stock and had a bundle with the shield, case, faceplate, and HDMI cable for 347. Not a bad deal since I wanted the case anyway. Looking forward to using it when mobile GPUs are supported but for now I have some Android games I can't wait to play.
Check out Ebay guys, I just got the cheapest one posted thusfar (you can see all the old auctions by looking at the completed listings in the filters), an in-box shield in great shape which is already in the post for 250 flat, including shipping, and it has the receipt and hasn't had the warranty registered yet.
You may get lucky like me and find one that someone wants gone fast.
I thought about getting one of these things once. I was gonna beat the crap out of someone and take it so I could put it on eBay. ^_^
I am still waiting to get one problem is we need to pay about £55 custom fees to have it shipped to uk.
i have the first Moga controller + S3/S4. Also pair PS Dual Shock controller + S3.
Moga controller pairing is a nightmare.
With an additional controller, it always take time to setup the phone to play, with Shield you just need to open screen and play.
I can say Shield is definitely a much better experience IMO
The emulator runs great, no lag in controls (especially Mario)
I can finally play Dead Trigger with proper controls (weapon selection need a bit of tweak)
Also trying some of the Shield compatible games and was quite satisfied.
And i didn't even consider about the PC streaming feature.
Btw i have 3DS XL and Vita as well
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i have the first Moga controller + S3/S4. Also pair PS Dual Shock controller + S3.
Moga controller pairing is a nightmare.
With an additional controller, it always take time to setup the phone to play, with Shield you just need to open screen and play.
I can say Shield is definitely a much better experience IMO
The emulator runs great, no lag in controls (especially Mario)
I can finally play Dead Trigger with proper controls (weapon selection need a bit of tweak)
Also trying some of the Shield compatible games and was quite satisfied.
And i didn't even consider about the PC streaming feature.
Btw i have 3DS XL and Vita as well
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I have to agree, I never once wanted this for pc streaming. Got it for emulation. Not sure if i like it more than my 3DS but definitely better than my vita. I love mine but their are still people that wont like it because of looks or because it's because it's basically a phone/tablet and controller. I can't think of one thing negative about it. Best emulators in my opinion are DraStic and m64/Super N64 (anything but mupen) My Boy! and Retroarch. Also as far as android games go I like me some Shadow gun dead zone. Needs more levels though. Also I hope an update comes out soon to use the shield controller or emulate the touch screen controls with non-shield optimized games (Minecraft PE, Call of duty Zombies etc.)
I was worried about getting the shield at first aswell.... out of all my retro and new consoles it has been my goto console for the last month.... it me made respect android gaming, there are some really fun console quality games on the play and shield store plus more to come.... can't wait for Dead Trigger 2 to release.
I can emulate my entire retro console library, it has a beautiful retinal screen plus I use miracast adapter to game on my smart tv wirelessly. Plus I use Onlive to stream AAA PC titles..... the shield is a gaming beast.... as of right now it is also my mediahub for music and movies .... since my tv is connected to my sound system.... I sort of use it as my media remote control.... on top of all that it PORTABLE... no handheld right now packs as much power that can be carried around anywhere you go.
Don't think twice just get one, I promise you wont be disappointed.
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I was worried about getting the shield at first aswell.... out of all my retro and new consoles it has been my goto console for the last month.... it me made respect android gaming, there are some really fun console quality games on the play and shield store plus more to come.... can't wait for Dead Trigger 2 to release.
I can emulate my entire retro console library, it has a beautiful retinal screen plus I use miracast adapter to game on my smart tv wirelessly. Plus I use Onlive to stream AAA PC titles..... the shield is a gaming beast.... as of right now it is also my mediahub for music and movies .... since my tv is connected to my sound system.... I sort of use it as my media remote control.... on top of all that it PORTABLE... no handheld right now packs as much power that can be carried around anywhere you go.
Don't think twice just get one, I promise you wont be disappointed.
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What hardware do you use for miracast i want to do something like that wirelessly
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CX5P8FC...pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1770051702&pf_rd_i=507846
Just ordered an Amazon Fire TV, i have 2 Madcatz Mojo and a Ouya 16GB so look for a review comparing all 3 once it arrives on Friday. Close to the same hardware as the mojo but half the price... except its 8GB instead of 16GB for storage. Ouch!! I really hope mojo gets 4.4 and the ouya store before amazon tv gets rooted (its running android) else i'll be jumping ship.
Was just annouced. I just purchased 1 for testing.
Amazon Fire TV:
SOC: Qualcomm Snapdragon 8064
Network: Wifi and 100mb Ethernet
Storage: 8GB
RAM: 2GB
Price: $100
Ouya:
SOC: NVIDIA Tegra 3 Quad-Core
Network: Wifi and 100mb Ethernet
Storage: 8GB
RAM: 1GB
Price: $100
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8064 vs NVIDIA Tegra 3 Quad-Core
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-S4-Pro-(APQ8064)-vs-Nvidia-Tegra-3-(T33)
Madcatz Mojo:
SOC: NVIDIA Tegra 4 T40S
Network: Wifi and 100mb Ethernet
Storage: 16GB
RAM: 2GB
Price: $200
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8064 vs NVIDIA Tegra 4
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-S4-Pro-(APQ8064)-vs-Nvidia-Tegra-4
Interesting!
I'm 99.99% sure it's their flavor of android.
I like the tegra zone, just knowing anything there will work with no problems.. I'm sure they'll have something similar.
It blows the Ouya's 2012 hardware out of the water!
MOJO is still the best microconsole
T4, USB3, 16GB, BT4 and CTRLR!
And I think the killer feature for MOJO is en route:
GameStream!
Letting me wire into my network at home, and playing all my PC games (that have controller support of course) on my TV... that's what I dream from this little box (alongside its HTPC capabilities which are flawless right now).
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CX5P8FC...pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1770051702&pf_rd_i=507846
Just ordered an Amazon Fire TV, i have 2 Madcatz Mojo and a Ouya 16GB so look for a review comparing all 3 once it arrives on Friday. Close to the same hardware as the mojo but half the price... except its 8GB instead of 16GB for storage. Ouch!! I really hope mojo gets 4.4 and the ouya store before amazon tv gets rooted (its running android) else i'll be jumping ship.
Was just annouced. I just purchased 1 for testing.
Amazon Fire TV:
SOC: Qualcomm Snapdragon 8064
Network: Wifi and 100mb Ethernet
Storage: 8GB
RAM: 2GB
Price: $100
Ouya:
SOC: NVIDIA Tegra 3 Quad-Core
Network: Wifi and 100mb Ethernet
Storage: 8GB
RAM: 1GB
Price: $100
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8064 vs NVIDIA Tegra 3 Quad-Core
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-S4-Pro-(APQ8064)-vs-Nvidia-Tegra-3-(T33)
Madcatz Mojo:
SOC: NVIDIA Tegra 4 T40S
Network: Wifi and 100mb Ethernet
Storage: 16GB
RAM: 2GB
Price: $200
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8064 vs NVIDIA Tegra 4
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-S4-Pro-(APQ8064)-vs-Nvidia-Tegra-4
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The SoC in the Amazon Fire is basically a S600. The Tegra 4 is more powerful. If the Amazon Fire was an S800 it could have been more powerful but that's not the case. Also, don't forget to factor in the controlker which brings the Fire price up to 140 vs. 200 for the MOJO. The the better gaming/Android solution in this case is the MOJO in my opinion especially since it has Play Store capability and rooting to enable greater functionality is easy. Especially if you consider that you can easily install the amazon app store on the MOJO but there's no guarantee that the Play Store will ever come to the Amazon Fire (unofficially obviously). If you're more concerned with a streaming solution the Fire is a better option because of all the supported services. It also most likely has better multimedia support. On the other hand from what I read it doesn't have keyboard support at the moment.
So for gaming if you pay for the MOJO it's 60 dollars more and you get twice the storage, an "extra" USB port (if they ever update the OS to free it up) and somewhat more powerful hardware (the GPU is sometimes close two twice as pwerful, other times much less but still more powerful). And I know that on the HTC One Anomaly 2 drops frames which I'm guessing that on the MOJO it happens less or maybe not at all.
If a multimedia player is your priority the Fire is 100 dollars less (sans controller) has better audio codec support AND optical out (which is very important for some).
I think the Fire will be a better consumer experience but the MOJO will provide a better device for gamers and users (not necessarily the "power" ones) willing to put some effort into it (but unless MOJO puts more effort into the software it will never be a hassle free experience/solution).
For the MOJO T40S GPU performance benchmarks compared to the Adreno 320 in the S600 you can check out the Tegra note review on anandtech and compare with the google nexus 7 (2013) with its qualcomm processor. www.anandtech.com/show/7508/nvidia-tegra-note-7-review
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...........Also, don't forget to factor in the controlker which brings the Fire price up to 140 vs. 200 for the MOJO. The the better gaming/Android solution in this case is the MOJO in my opinion especially since it has Play Store capability and rooting to enable greater functionality is easy. Especially if you consider that you can easily install the amazon app store on the MOJO but there's no guarantee that the Play Store will ever come to the Amazon Fire (unofficially obviously). If you're more concerned with a streaming solution the Fire is a better option because of all the supported services. It also most likely has better multimedia support. On the other hand from what I read it doesn't have keyboard support at the moment......
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1) the amazon fire tv also comes with a standard remote that just isnt an option officially on the Mojo, maybe a Mele f10 ($20).
2) Even though Mojo has been "open" there really hasnt been much development. With the numbers that the fire tv is going to sell there will be more development once they achieve root. Koush has even gone on record and bought one.
Why is the Nvidia Shield faster then the Mad Catz M.O.J.O., and sometimes much faster, why do we not have the same Chip-set CPU/GPU?
Is so strange not to use the same speed CPU/GPU.
AmigaWolf said:
Why is the Nvidia Shield faster then the Mad Catz M.O.J.O., and sometimes much faster, why do we not have the same Chip-set CPU/GPU?
Is so strange not to use the same speed CPU/GPU.
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dont hijack the thread, please start your own thread.
AmigaWolf said:
Why is the Nvidia Shield faster then the Mad Catz M.O.J.O., and sometimes much faster, why do we not have the same Chip-set CPU/GPU?
Is so strange not to use the same speed CPU/GPU.
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Your MOJO can run at the same speed!
Just Overclock it a little bit, stand it horizontally.
Or you can overclock it a lot (2Ghz+) and put an USB fan underneath it, to blowing the hot air up.
PS: I haven't done any of this and don't recommend it... maybe in 2 years when the MOJO struggles to keep up
@mejdam
True, hacking community is small, but it's there
It's great that there's more 'microconsoles' more choice :good:
Especially from bigger players.
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dont hijack the thread, please start your own thread.
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What are you talking about?
You were talking about Ouya and Amazon Fire TV and the Mad Catz M.O.J.O. speed and specs differences, and i ask why the Nvidia Shield is
faster then the Mad Catz M.O.J.O. nothing more.
Get off your high horse please, will you.
Madcatz makes official Amazon Fire TV's controller?
WOW madcat have their 'claws' well into microconsoles!
MOJO, Ouya store and now Amazon's Fire TV's official controller?
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-04-02/amazons-fire-tv-piles-into-the-living-room
Owners can play games with either the remote control or Amazon’s Kindle Fire tablet. For customers who prefer a more traditional video-game experience, Amazon said it would separately sell a traditional game controller, manufactured by the San Diego-based Mad Catz Interactive (MCZ), for $40. “Millions of people have game consoles, of course, and they love them,” says Pete Larsen, an Amazon vice president. “Many, many millions more don’t have consoles, and they don’t have them because they can’t afford them or they don’t want to pay for them. They would love to play games on TV.”
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Looking at it, it does look a bit like the CTRLR (no switch mouse/PC modes), but with all the buttons/triggers/sticks and includes a microphone for voice search. Interesting angular body design too.
I recognise that Dpad anywhere!
http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/02/amazon-fire-tv-game-controller/
"AA batteries"
"Intelligent power management with auto-sleep."
Getting good reviews too:
http://www.amazon.com/Amazon-53-000...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
@Mad Catz Nate, is it MOJO compatible? is it BT4?
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The Shield being the better overall device hijacks it by default
Faster
Better controller, plus the option of using what you want
Built in very good speakers
Oh, and it is portable with great battery life
For $200 getting both a home console and portable device.
Now THAT is hijacking
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The Shield being the better overall device hijacks it by default
Faster
Better controller, plus the option of using what you want
Built in very good speakers
Oh, and it is portable with great battery life
For $200 getting both a home console and portable device.
Now THAT is hijacking
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Nice hijacking!
But the shield is NOT A MICRO-CONSOLE, it's a portable with TV out.. kinda like a tablet & a BYO controller, have fun setting that up every time!
Better controller.. hahah
The CTRLR can do what the shield does (being a portable) with a phone/tablet and do it better (fullsize controller, newer SoC's)
Faster.. lol it's the same SoC.. the mojo can be over clocked.. just put on it side and the heat raises.
How's your fan noise and your tinny 5inch screen?
Hey check out my 7inch CTRLR Shield killer!!!
I just ordered 2 more CTRLR's on amazon.. looking forward!
IMO the Shield will be remembered like the PSP-GO.. hahah yeah remember that one?
Sorry buddy, you picked the right race.. but you backed the wrong horse
I've been very pleased with my MOJO and enjoy all of it's capabilities thoroughly. MOJO is a better gaming console than the Fire and rooting it will not void any warranties. I never considered buying the Fire and bought the MOJO a week before it came out. As for the Shield, I looked into it a bit, but it didn't fit my needs. I needed a dedicated console for media, android gaming and emulation. This is where the MOJO fills all my needs. I have a tablet if I want a portable gaming device and the Shield would require another controller if plugged into the television. Hooking up and unhooking all the time wouldn't be all that desirable for my wall mounted television. The MOJO fits snuggly behind it out of view. We could go on and on about which device one thinks is better than another, but in the end I think it really depends on what you want to use your device for, and for me, the MOJO fills my needs.
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Nice hijacking!
But the shield is NOT A MICRO-CONSOLE, it's a portable with TV out.. kinda like a tablet & a BYO controller, have fun setting that up every time!
Better controller.. hahah
The CTRLR can do what the shield does (being a portable) with a phone/tablet and do it better (fullsize controller, newer SoC's)
Faster.. lol it's the same SoC.. the mojo can be over clocked.. just put on it side and the heat raises.
How's your fan noise and your tinny 5inch screen?
Hey check out my 7inch CTRLR Shield killer!!!
I just ordered 2 more CTRLR's on amazon.. looking forward!
IMO the Shield will be remembered like the PSP-GO.. hahah yeah remember that one?
Sorry buddy, you picked the right race.. but you backed the wrong horse
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Sorry to say but the NVIDIA Shield is MUCH more popular then this (M.O.J.O.) device, just look at NewEgg.com and Amazone.com.
The NVIDIA Shield has a special made JoyPad Keymapper so that almost all the games works on it, the Mad Catz M.O.J.O. does not, so only a few
games work good, you have to use third party software to have JoyPad keymapping on the M.O.J.O., and they do not work as good as your own
keymapper software (App).
The NVIDIA Shield has Android 4.4 Kitkat, the M.O.J.O. does not have that, and there is still no news when we are getting it.
The NVIDIA Shield has a fan so he wil not get hot (or overheat) the M.O.J.O. does not have a fan and can get very hot, and can freeze every time, more
people has this problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712067
On the NVIDIA Shield you can stream games from cloud (GRID CLOUD GAMING) is not on the M.O.J.O.
And i can go on and on, so he backed up the right horse.
gwaldo said:
Nice hijacking!
But the shield is NOT A MICRO-CONSOLE, it's a portable with TV out.. kinda like a tablet & a BYO controller, have fun setting that up every time!
Better controller.. hahah
The CTRLR can do what the shield does (being a portable) with a phone/tablet and do it better (fullsize controller, newer SoC's)
Faster.. lol it's the same SoC.. the mojo can be over clocked.. just put on it side and the heat raises.
How's your fan noise and your tinny 5inch screen?
Hey check out my 7inch CTRLR Shield killer!!!
I just ordered 2 more CTRLR's on amazon.. looking forward!
IMO the Shield will be remembered like the PSP-GO.. hahah yeah remember that one?
Sorry buddy, you picked the right race.. but you backed the wrong horse
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Actually, on top of AmigaWolf's points, Shield has a console mode to behave exactly like a console
1 Put in console mode
2 Plug up HDMI
3 Choose to use the Shield controller or the bluetooth controller of your choice. Mouse and keyboard too.
You do not even need to use console mode unless you want to use another controller.
Shield seems no contest compared to any current micro console due to the huge option of also being portable with great battery life. Also games that need some touch function can be mapped
to use the controllers with Shield. Apps like DrasticDS and other touch centric apps can be easily mapped, or just use the built in touch function with the display.
This horse won before the race started Very good $200 bet.
If a dedicated portable gaming devices is so great, why amazon/google/etc/etc not do one?
I think the market for dedicated portable gaming devices is becoming smaller thanks to mobiles/tablets.
They do what the shield does and better because they don't lock you in to the hardware, ie your 5inch screen on a T4.
Like I said the MOJO has a great controller which works on desktops and Android plus it has a holder for your phone/tablet (ie what shield does with better soc's).
@AmigaWolf your the only one on here TMK that had overheating issue.
NVIDIA has vast more experience working with android, MC doesn't.. so the kitkat/mapper, etc, etc delays is to be expected.
The shield is just a portable (with TV out) but not a micro-console.
Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if the Shield 2 (K1) is not a hand-held portable but.... a micro-console!!!! yes like the MOJO, OUYA, FIRE etc, etc. lol
Edit: and bundled/optional with a MC controller like TV Fire
gwaldo said:
If a dedicated portable gaming devices is so great, why amazon/google/etc/etc not do one?
I think the market for dedicated portable gaming devices is becoming smaller thanks to mobiles/tablets.
They do what the shield does and better because they don't lock you in to the hardware, ie your 5inch screen on a T4.
Like I said the MOJO has a great controller which works on desktops and Android plus it has a holder for your phone/tablet (ie what shield does with better soc's).
@AmigaWolf your the only one on here TMK that had overheating issue.
NVIDIA has vast more experience working with android, MC doesn't.. so the kitkat/mapper, etc, etc delays is to be expected.
The shield is just a portable (with TV out) but not a micro-console.
Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if the Shield 2 (K1) is not a hand-held portable but.... a micro-console!!!! yes like the MOJO, OUYA, FIRE etc, etc. lol
Edit: and bundled/optional with a MC controller like TV Fire
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Sorry to say but i can buy a great controller which works on desktops and Android plus it has a holder for your phone/tablet, like the Moga controllers, and
many more.
I am the only one which had overheating issue? have you seen my post, 3 other people have it on MY post, but i don't care, i gone go with a different
Android TV BOX (they payed back the money that the M.O.J.O. cost), and i think i gone go with the Android TV BOX that have a Rockchip RK3288, and
that chipset is gone have a ARM Cortex-A17 2.0GHz processor and Mali T628 GPU and it has H.265/HEVC support for 4K2K videos, and HDMI 2.0 for 4K
@ 60 fps video output, and Gigabit Ethernet.
But this (M.O.J.O.) would be a great Android TV BOX if it had also a remote controller, and a ON and OFF button, and Read and Write support for NTFS
formatted Hard drives, and XBMC preinstalled like the Tronsmart Vega S89, that has Dolby Digital (AC3) 5.1 and DTS 5.1 and DTS-HD HRA 5.1 and
DTS-HD MA 5.1 HDMI passthrough.
And of cores a control mapper like the NVIDIA SHIELD, with the NVIDIA SHIELD it automatically downloads the mapped controls for that particular game.
Now it is just a Half-baked Android TV BOX, and you have to do to much to get everything working, and a lot of Apps won't work because you first have to
Root him, and thats to hard to do for the normal people that just don't know how all that work, they just want to buy a machine that has everything already,
now it's to much work, and thats also one of the biggest reason most people won't buy this Android TV BOX.
If that all was made correct the first time, this Android TV BOX would be a great BOX.
Mad Catz could have learned so much from NVIDIA Shield if they just looked and waited how they have done it.
The Shield is not even in the same category. You are talking about a portable handheld with a screen, batteries that are not replacable (or easily replacable) and it is not a set top box. Did you buy the Shield yet by the way? I hope so. This way you can migrate to the Shield forums and whine about the issues with that device
Oh no, I see you went with a Rockchip device instead. I see why you are so upset now.....I feel for you. That chipset sucks. You are probably able to do one third of what you can do with a Tegra device. You are not relying on that thing on a daily basis, are you? Just don't push it that hard and you might be able to use it to play some MP3 files.
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The Shield is not even in the same category. You are talking about a portable handheld with a screen, batteries that are not replacable (or easily replacable) and it is not a set top box. Did you buy the Shield yet by the way? I hope so. This way you can migrate to the Shield forums and whine about the issues with that device
Oh no, I see you went with a Rockchip device instead. I see why you are so upset now.....I feel for you. That chipset sucks. You are probably able to do one third of what you can do with a Tegra device. You are not relying on that thing on a daily basis, are you? Just don't push it that hard and you might be able to use it to play some MP3 files.
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I know it's hard to hear the truth, i feel for you i really do.
Thank you very much for your kind words:silly:
OP can you test the amazon remote that comes with the fire TV on the mojo and ouya? I'm looking to get either the mojo or ouya after sending my fire TV back but would like to know if the simplified remote will work with either one. I wouldn't want to use the controller for media playback also to keep it simple for the kids to use.
It's been a little more than 14 months since the Ouya was released last year on June 25th, 2014, which is a decent amount of time to let the device mature.
I bought the device with XBMC in mind, with a chance of a little game development if I ever had the time (I haven't had the time, unfortunately). Today, I still use my Ouya almost daily, but it's almost exclusively for XBMC.
As an XBMC box, I am fairly happy with it, although the streaming and overall UI performance of the overall device could be better. I was into emulation early on when I first bought the Ouya, and it played some retro games sufficiently although it wasn't spectacular with performance and bug issues in the emulators. The controller lag on my Ouya has been unbearable at times, but I had a few controllers replaced by Ouya Inc, which alleviates some of the issues.
As far as installing custom firmware and tweaks, I haven't had too much time to research into an effective combination to improve my experience with the device. In fact, I haven't had a chance to research into the cool things I can do with this little box yet.
All in all, I am fairly happy with my Ouya, and I don't regret the purchase at all, but I am curious what the community thinks of the Ouya after being out in the wild for a year.
Do you still use your Ouya? How so? What apps and programs are you running on it? What games do you play on it? What custom firmware do you run on it?
For xbmc it is OK, I upgraded to a chromebox for my main unit. Kids like playing with it. Emulators work decent. It is now in my kids playroom and they mainly watch cartoons on it. Some Mario and king of monsters. No custom software. I wouldn't say I regret it but I probably should of read up more before buying
nice paperweight
When I first got my ouya I tried some games from the Discover section. They were alright but overall I felt I was just paying too much for android games just because this was boasted as a console. I had hoped for controller support for apps like Minecraft PE or Terraria but neither ever came. It sat in my room for several months as a paperweight and a reminder to not be so quick to back things on Kickstarter. Finally I went to update it and then flash a custom rom onto it and the microusb port was shot. I had to get it replaced so they gave me a refurbished Ouya... not a new one, not even an old one with my KS case back, just a plain case. I updated it and honestly haven't done much with it since. I tried setting it up as a chromecast but it didn't work so it's back to being a paperweight and still works to this day when it comes to keeping me from binge-funding on Kickstarter.
Some games I have enjoyed on it are Amazing Frog, Final Fantasy III (even though it's the same graphics as the Nintendo DS... which I have), and a handful of emulators. I would've bought Towerfall if it wasn't the same price as the PC version. Nothing justifies paying $15 for an android app imo
I bought my Ouya a year ago and I never regret it. I use it every day with XBMC. But these days I tried to play some retro games on emulator SFC NES etc. Super Metroid is fun. Honestly,Ouya platform lacks amazing games. Townfall is great but will you pay almost $15 for it? The only app I bought on Ouya is a sleep app that can emulate sounds of sea waves and stream. The steam machine would replace my Ouya in the future. I'd rather pay money for PC games because of the quality and game experience.
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It's been a little more than 14 months since the Ouya was released last year on June 25th, 2014, which is a decent amount of time to let the device mature.
I bought the device with XBMC in mind, with a chance of a little game development if I ever had the time (I haven't had the time, unfortunately). Today, I still use my Ouya almost daily, but it's almost exclusively for XBMC.
As an XBMC box, I am fairly happy with it, although the streaming and overall UI performance of the overall device could be better. I was into emulation early on when I first bought the Ouya, and it played some retro games sufficiently although it wasn't spectacular with performance and bug issues in the emulators. The controller lag on my Ouya has been unbearable at times, but I had a few controllers replaced by Ouya Inc, which alleviates some of the issues.
As far as installing custom firmware and tweaks, I haven't had too much time to research into an effective combination to improve my experience with the device. In fact, I haven't had a chance to research into the cool things I can do with this little box yet.
All in all, I am fairly happy with my Ouya, and I don't regret the purchase at all, but I am curious what the community thinks of the Ouya after being out in the wild for a year.
Do you still use your Ouya? How so? What apps and programs are you running on it? What games do you play on it? What custom firmware do you run on it?
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I painted mine like rubix cube
So yeah its got XBMC on it ... but i dont know maybe throw KK on it if i can try to use it to play some emulators
Buh-bye Ouya...got an Amazon FireTV and never looked back. Dammit, I even paid 20$ to get a Noctua silent fan (the original was driving me nuts). Any takers?
One year later I'm still using my Ouya regularly.
I’ve had my Ouya for over a year and have had a great experience with it. The system was ‘as advertised’ where you get a base system and with research, effort, a “do it yourself attitude”, a little know how, and patience can get something good out of it. It was designed for the casual gamer, designers, and modders. A selective audience, so I wasn’t expecting the instant gratification of a 5 star product with all the bells and whistles or components that weren’t yet released. In the end, the system is as good as YOU make it.
Currently I’m using it as a media center as well as a gaming platform with CM11 being the primary OS with the Ouya Everywhere framework on top (it works!). When I’m not using a hub for keyboard and mouse I keep a micro 64GB Drive for additional storage in the USB port.
Additional Apks for performance and operation tweaking such as Folder Mount, Screen Rotation, RamExpander, Ouya Mod Collection, ES File Explorer, Clean Master, Air Droid, Shutdown Menu 2.1, Tincore Keymapper, and QuickShortcutMaker.
Media includes: XBMC, Crackle, Viewster, CW, Fox Now, CBS, NBC, History, PBS Kids, Watch Disney, UVideos, WatchESPN, Netflix, Hulu Plus, YouTube, FilmOn, Giniko TV, SPB TV, Twitch, AllCast Reciever
Games include (Note: no “tweaking” needed to be done. Just install and enjoy.): SoulCalibur (Android Version), Asphalt 8, Shadowgun, Dead Trigger 2, Dream League Soccer, Skiing Fred, Sonic CD(Amazon), Sonic 4ep I & II, Cordy 2, Tiny Little Racing 2, N.O.V.A.3, EDGE Extended(Amazon), Riptide GP2, ,Zen Pinball, PPSSPP, Neon Shadow(Ouya Store), Tetris Battle Fusion(Ouya Store), Other Emulators(Ouya Store)
Now there were some setbacks where there were some Google/Amazon games that have controller support but I have not yet been able to get to work on Ouya even with CM11. (Respawnables, Shadow Fight 2, Transformers: Age of Extinction, ShadowGun: DeadZone)
Are there better things out there now? Yes. With effort, can this product still be useful for video and gaming? Yes.
Not a gamer, well exceded my expectations for video/server
Very happy with it, played with games a bit but was underwhelmed. To be fair I get bored with current gen consoles too.
I've got CM11 with Kodi (XBMC 14), Netflix, google music, and assorted A/V apps.
Also have sickbeard, nbzget, transmission, and a few other Linux untils installed via optware.
I bought to replace a pogoplug running Arch linux and an older wd frontend device.
Works phenomenally, even plays 10bit mkv without major issue.
To be fair any decent current android stick/STB could likely handle what I need. When bought is was the best performance per dollar.
If buying now I'd get a http://www.solid-run.com/ cubox-1 eSata, 2 usb, gigabit lan.
Probably still run android on the top, linux userland on the bottom.
Controller is hopeless though. Hausbell h7 is good and only $15, just a minor twaek to the .kl file and great
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B9996LA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
How much?
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Buh-bye Ouya...got an Amazon FireTV and never looked back. Dammit, I even paid 20$ to get a Noctua silent fan (the original was driving me nuts). Any takers?
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Wouldn't mind another ouya for my camp. How much ya want?
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Wouldn't mind another ouya for my camp. How much ya want?
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Would be too much trouble to ship to US...I am in Canada.
New to OUYA and loving it !
Goal:
To have media center and information KIOSK in Smart Electric Vehicle.
The OUYA is 12 volt and I am using Insignia HDTV also 12 volt.
Next step is to check power quality of DC to DC (12v) converter in car.
OUYA rumored to be at risk on noisy power in ICE vehicle.
Samsung Tab 2 on Verizon will be HOT Spot with Beagle Bone Black as Web Server.
Also installed XDA One with limited use due to navigation hassles.
I'm considering buying one soon
Was fun to tinker with, but gets no use now
The ouya was a cool idea that never really paid out. I bought mine last xmas, downloaded xbmc, rooted it and played a few ps1 games on an emulator and never used it again. It never receieved the support it deserved and was forgotten mostly because of that. I still check in on these forums time to time just to check if anyone has completed any useful custom roms, but no luck yet(still waiting on that Android TV port). I have a chromecast, netflix and a macbook so XBMC feels pretty bad to me tbh. Everytime I want to use XBMC it has to update all the addons, then half the time the primewire app doesn't even work, and I'll have to try project free TV(which only works about half the time as well). So netflix or streaming off my macbook via chromecast is almost always the better option. I would like to see some more life in my ouya again, but just about all my other devices function better. An Android gaming system is a very cool concept, it sucks that the execution was so poor/supporting apps are so few.
Disappointed...
The device has potential but or the lack of software or the fact that are cheap Android Sticks out there that can do almost the same makes me feel disappointed...
Have one and i only use it for XBMC/Kodi, but my Raspberry Pi is able to handle that too so...
Bought it like many others as the best hardware for the price at the time. Primarily for XBMC with the potential for Android Apks to unleash further potential
Probably wish I had gone with Amazon Fire TV in hindsight.
It now sits gathering dust - Chromecast is used for all the kids stuff - cartoons etc
And I have an AMlogic Minix X8H for XBMC/SPMC - which I like and may look to install alternative ROMs etc.
It's nice. I can't say I love it, but I don't hate it, either. I had some fun with three or four games, and I sometimes emulate something on it. I wouldn't recommend it to anybody, but I don't regret buying it.
The Ouya is a good dust-collector now.
The fan is too loud for using it as TV Multimedia player. The lags are too big for using it as SNES-Emulator. There is still no easy-to-install Linux port, since the community wasn't interested in the Ouya.
So all in all it is a big fail. But the controllers are good, I use them when I emulate SNES in Windows now (where it works fine and without lags).
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It's nice. I can't say I love it, but I don't hate it, either. I had some fun with three or four games, and I sometimes emulate something on it. I wouldn't recommend it to anybody, but I don't regret buying it.
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Nicely said. Never understood why they did not include Netflix, Hulu, Amazon? This made it so I had to shut off my Ouya and use another box for these apps or sideload them (much cleaner on Fire or android tv anyway). The lack of leadership in the public eye has really hurt them?Have heard next to nothing from Julie in a good while? Then there is the outdated chipset to me putting the old model back in stock would not be a good business move for Ouya just my opinion. I have had issues with there forum very poor additude!
Would you like the option to buy a $149 Nexus Player with 64gb, 2gb ram, & Ethernet?
Hell throw in some full size USB 3.0 ports and an sd card slot and I would gladly pay $199 for the device.
I don't understand why Google didn't unveil two versions of the Nexus Player, one with more storage for $50 more. They have always released a more expensive bigger capacity version of all their Nexus devices, phones and tablets in the past.
I suspect that price and those specs would be a fantasy. I would suspect that for $149, you'd get 32GB internal and 2GB RAM, or 16GB internal, 2GB RAM, and ethernet.
If they were to release another device with better specs, I might get it, but only as something to run Ubuntu on.
My thinking is: this is designed as a streaming device. You don't need insane specs to stream a video or some music. It is also designed to handle games, but generally arcade-style games; light on the graphics and more targeted as a family/party gaming device. This also has plenty of power for emulators.
The point of high specs on a phone or tablet is so that you can play games when you're away from home. If you're going to plan on playing graphics-intensive console games in your living room, there are already devices for that. It's going to be quite a few more years before the big game franchises are running commercials that say "Coming this November to Xbox, PlayStation, and Android."
Again, with storage, if you've already got some big library of movies and music, it's going to be on your computer, and you can always stream it over your network.
The only major hardware failing, in my mind, is that they really missed the opportunity to upsell with a $15 Nexus-Player-branded OTG Ethernet dongle.
Plus when you start geting in the $150-$250 price range, you open up a lot better options in home streaming that leave android based systems behind. Non-android HTPC's start at that price point and nothing in the android line can compete because everything including speed, audio, and video out performs android. The android market is a $100 plug and play unit, something simple to set up and cheap.
I don't see the need for 64gb, unless you plan on installing 30 games.
Ethernet would be useful, but not necessary as long as you have a good WiFi router and you're not trying to use the router from your cable provider.
I don't see the need for USB 3.0 either. Most peripherals work fine on 2.0, even interface devices don't need more than USB 1.0. The only advantage I see 3.0 having is when connected to a storage device, and even then you wouldn't really have an advantage over 2.0. Then again, connecting storage defeats the purpose of a streaming device.
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I suspect that price and those specs would be a fantasy. I would suspect that for $149, you'd get 32GB internal and 2GB RAM, or 16GB internal, 2GB RAM, and ethernet.
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That should be awsome 1GB ram i think is a bit to low
OP pics u still rockin that TILT or i dnt believe u
The fire TV has more RAM and it's the same price.
I would.
Some may suggest I stream everything from my PC, but what if I want to bring my collection with me? 8gb HD, so really 7gb usable. A couple big games, a little bit of music, and 2 HD movies, and that's full. Doing TV, you could fit MAYBE a full season of a 1-hour show on there, and you'd need to uninstall your games.
Am I the only one who brings my blu-ray player and a binder of movies with me when I travel?
I want 64gb of storage because it would be an amazing gaming and emulator machine with that. It has an amazing cpu and gpu, way better than even the firetv. If only it had some more storage, it would be perfect.
I think storage is the main issue with the device. Yes, it is made for streaming video but it is also designed as a gaming device (hence the official gamepad accessory). 8GB of storage is just not enough. 16GB would be adequate but 32GB is really ideal. with 8GB of storage you'd only end up with about 5.5GB of usable space, and there are games that take up over 1GB on their own.
I don't think I would. $99 is kind of the sweet-spot for a standalone TV "puck", IMO. Any higher than that just feels like a half measure to me. If you're going $150, then you might as well just go to $200-$300 and run an atom or i3-based PC.
Also, the ethernet thing is way overblow. Get an AC router and sleep well at night.
I would certainly jump on some of that price tag. Would also like to have more information on the soc it use, I do not see much information on it around!
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Hell throw in some full size USB 3.0 ports and an sd card slot and I would gladly pay $199 for the device.
I don't understand why Google didn't unveil two versions of the Nexus Player, one with more storage for $50 more. They have always released a more expensive bigger capacity version of all their Nexus devices, phones and tablets in the past.
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No, but I'd like a $99 version with 4GB RAM and replaceable SSD.
TBH I cant ever see the player being the "right" value point, as it stands might as well go buy a lowend NUC(or like) device and have pretty much the freedom to load it up with whatever amt of ram/storage and then IF you REALLY REALLY REALLY want to install x86 android, but personally I'd just slap a lightweight linux distro, xbmc, plex, and steam on it... maybe dual boot a tiny android setup, but linux would be the default...
I did finally pick up a chromebook though, but the highend C720 i3/4GB that got SSD upgrade and croutonized for now. CrOS was less useless than I expected it to be, but running CrOS alone only the cheapest models are of any value purely as 2ndary or tertiary notebooks. I;m actually using Cros quite a bit for web browsing, probably never touch another tablet again unless I need an ereader in a pinch if I forget to charge the kindle(and it;s not a bright sunny day/location so lets hope batt only croaks at night).
So how does this add in? I found tablets only slightly useful for web browsing and occasional PDFs. Entry of anything relatively complex was a PITA -> overgrown phone -> Crbook (conceptually my tablet replacement , small, light, has keyboard and trackpad and as a bonus can be semi-useful linux notebook). TV, well I currently have a Roku 3 which is OK, but since AppleTV, GoogleTV, chromecast, amazon stuck in amazonland stick, generic Android/ARM sticks weren't enough to supplant the Roku3, HOWEVER I am(/have been) considering what I wrote above with a NUC or like as a tiny HTPC running linux and that sums up how I feel about most of these devices. So many looking for a problem to solve or partially solving a problem that superior devices already do so at similar(with better specs) or MUCH lower prices.
I'm not going to talk about the "smart" watches other than the above also applies in an even worse case to them(no problem to solve at all) and that they're not actually smart at all(mostly and the ones that are kinda smart are just idiot savants in a useless field).
Glass OTOH could potentially be very useful with a capability of recognizing and overlaying schematics/etc but not $1.5k useful.
So long and short player is already too expensively useless, why make it more so?
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No, but I'd like a $99 version with 4GB RAM and replaceable SSD.
TBH I cant ever see the player being the "right" value point, as it stands might as well go buy a lowend NUC(or like) device and have pretty much the freedom to load it up with whatever amt of ram/storage and then IF you REALLY REALLY REALLY want to install x86 android, but personally I'd just slap a lightweight linux distro, xbmc, plex, and steam on it... maybe dual boot a tiny android setup, but linux would be the default...
I did finally pick up a chromebook though, but the highend C720 i3/4GB that got SSD upgrade and croutonized for now. CrOS was less useless than I expected it to be, but running CrOS alone only the cheapest models are of any value purely as 2ndary or tertiary notebooks. I;m actually using Cros quite a bit for web browsing, probably never touch another tablet again unless I need an ereader in a pinch if I forget to charge the kindle(and it;s not a bright sunny day/location so lets hope batt only croaks at night).
So how does this add in? I found tablets only slightly useful for web browsing and occasional PDFs. Entry of anything relatively complex was a PITA -> overgrown phone -> Crbook (conceptually my tablet replacement , small, light, has keyboard and trackpad and as a bonus can be semi-useful linux notebook). TV, well I currently have a Roku 3 which is OK, but since AppleTV, GoogleTV, chromecast, amazon stuck in amazonland stick, generic Android/ARM sticks weren't enough to supplant the Roku3, HOWEVER I am(/have been) considering what I wrote above with a NUC or like as a tiny HTPC running linux and that sums up how I feel about most of these devices. So many looking for a problem to solve or partially solving a problem that superior devices already do so at similar(with better specs) or MUCH lower prices.
I'm not going to talk about the "smart" watches other than the above also applies in an even worse case to them(no problem to solve at all) and that they're not actually smart at all(mostly and the ones that are kinda smart are just idiot savants in a useless field).
Glass OTOH could potentially be very useful with a capability of recognizing and overlaying schematics/etc but not $1.5k useful.
So long and short player is already too expensively useless, why make it more so?
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Well, I'm glad you stopped by a forum dedicated to a device you clearly have neither the desire nor need to use. And thank you also for providing us with you opinion on a bunch of things that have nothing to do with it.
razor is making a android tv box but they haven't released specs, im assuming it will have much of what people want since its centered around gaming
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razor is making a android tv box but they haven't released specs, im assuming it will have much of what people want since its centered around gaming
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Generally though their products are a little... overpriced. However, if the specs are better and still able to be used as easily as a streaming player, I might get one.
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razor is making a android tv box but they haven't released specs, im assuming it will have much of what people want since its centered around gaming
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Razer's product is vaporware, at the moment. Lollipop is out, the Nexus Player is out, and not a peep from Razer. They have a bad habit of hyping up products just to see them delayed, never released, released in limited quality, and/or cancelled altogether. Never did see their Razer Edge in stores (was supposed to hit MS stores upon release). They were delayed, quietly released in limited quantities, and are now VERY difficult to find. Razer also doesn't have a very good brick and mortar distribution channel for their higher end products outside of mice/keyboards.
I wouldn't get my hopes up on this product. If it actually gets released, I'm expecting it to have the best specs of any late 2014 ATV player, but to be released in limited quantities before Christmas 2015, and at a higher price point as well.
After all the hype this past summer about Android TV powered by NVidia I spent the last half of 2014 keeping my eyes peeled for Android TV news. Then the release of the Nexus with atom/vr was a big disappointment! Now of all things Razer which I thought for sure would use NVidia goes for Qualcomm another disappointment! There is the upcoming Snail Games OBox which looks interesting but does not appear to be Android TV based? Am I the only one who would like a K1 or for that matter X1 powered box? Yes I admit I am a NVidia fan I can notice graphics that come from NVidia colors are different just personal choice.
Contrary to what most of you here enjoy(Mods, Sideloading, etc.) these things should be a choice not something that has to be done to make the system work for such things as storage for games? I currently own FireTV, Madcatz Mojo, Ouya, ADT1 and it seems to me that android still has a way to go before it truely is ready for the living room out of the box? The issue is difficult one player has HBO Go while the other can load apps and Kodi I have been searching for that box that can do all of this DAY 1 ? I am getting older and while I enjoy reading this forum and all the talent it contains I just don't have the energy to perform all these mods just to get what I consider to be that perfect box that just works when you plug it in:victory:?
Very true. I'd consider myself an Android "enthusiast" and got the original Logitech Google TV and then the Sony Google TV. Big disappointments! The Nexus Player is great when compared to those two, but I'm only using it for games right now. The Roku 3 is still superior in terms of media consumption - at least in my eyes.
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After all the hype this past summer about Android TV powered by NVidia I spent the last half of 2014 keeping my eyes peeled for Android TV news. Then the release of the Nexus with atom/vr was a big disappointment! Now of all things Razer which I thought for sure would use NVidia goes for Qualcomm another disappointment! There is the upcoming Snail Games OBox which looks interesting but does not appear to be Android TV based? Am I the only one who would like a K1 or for that matter X1 powered box? Yes I admit I am a NVidia fan I can notice graphics that come from NVidia colors are different just personal choice.
Contrary to what most of you here enjoy(Mods, Sideloading, etc.) these things should be a choice not something that has to be done to make the system work for such things as storage for games? I currently own FireTV, Madcatz Mojo, Ouya, ADT1 and it seems to me that android still has a way to go before it truely is ready for the living room out of the box? The issue is difficult one player has HBO Go while the other can load apps and Kodi I have been searching for that box that can do all of this DAY 1 ? I am getting older and while I enjoy reading this forum and all the talent it contains I just don't have the energy to perform all these mods just to get what I consider to be that perfect box that just works when you plug it in:victory:?
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While I don`t disagree with you, you can wait forever for the latest hardware or UI. There will always be a better chip or box just around the corner and that next release of code is coming any day now. The way I look at it is we are at about gen 1-2 of these devices (I have had a couple already) with a few more to go. You can either sit on the sidelines for another 1-2 years or understand the limitations of what you are getting and play with it. Remember Android TV was released less than a year ago and has some growing up to do. The alternative is a stock Android OS, which requires customization.
I have the NP and think the specs are reasonable for the cost I paid. I could pay to play for all the google services, or tinker (as I have) and install Kodi and a bunch of other apps.
The only problem with your strategy is that in order to get a turn key solution with no tinkering, it will likely come from your friendly cable or IPTV provider with an additional subscription fee.
Wilberry said:
While I don`t disagree with you, you can wait forever for the latest hardware or UI. There will always be a better chip or box just around the corner and that next release of code is coming any day now. The way I look at it is we are at about gen 1-2 of these devices (I have had a couple already) with a few more to go. You can either sit on the sidelines for another 1-2 years or understand the limitations of what you are getting and play with it. Remember Android TV was released less than a year ago and has some growing up to do. The alternative is a stock Android OS, which requires customization.
I have the NP and think the specs are reasonable for the cost I paid. I could pay to play for all the google services, or tinker (as I have) and install Kodi and a bunch of other apps.
The only problem with your strategy is that in order to get a turn key solution with no tinkering, it will likely come from your friendly cable or IPTV provider with an additional subscription fee.
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Your so right, Its a never ending cycle with new products all the time. It just seems in this case you either have a good OS with ahhhh...specs! , or great specs with terrible software (example: Madcatz Mojo). My worst habit is I shop by specs which gets expensive:silly:
I dont mind spending $$$ for a box but even then the market is bare save PS4 or Xbox....maybe Tivo? Looking forward to a true Android Game Console...Storage and all!
I'm definitely keeping my eyes on the Obox!
If I have to wait, wait I shall. Lol!
Could someone please advise me here.
In terms of longevity of use, lowest cost to own, and performance.
I currently have a Amazon firetv stick. I have been on the fence about buying a game controller as it's $40.
I have seen many ADT-1s sell on eBay for less than $100 with a remote and game controller. It is my understanding that the memory on the adt1 is superior to the nexus player.
However I don't want to buy something that down the road won't be supported. My roku 2xd still works and gets updated. But once I used my firetv stick I was hooked on speed.
I prefer Google devices and love my Nexus 7 2013. It has lots of support too.
Bottom line, and sorry for taking over, but could someone advise me on if I'd be better buying a Nexus Player or adt-1. FYI I'm not a gamer and don't play them often. I prefer my NES and n64. In fact I'd probably love using n64/nes/snes/gbaoid on one of these android tv devices lol.
What's the best for long term stability?
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2jlz3z/the_developer_adt1_vs_the_nexus_player_vs_amazon/
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jfriend33 said:
Could someone please advise me here.
In terms of longevity of use, lowest cost to own, and performance.
I currently have a Amazon firetv stick. I have been on the fence about buying a game controller as it's $40.
I have seen many ADT-1s sell on eBay for less than $100 with a remote and game controller. It is my understanding that the memory on the adt1 is superior to the nexus player.
However I don't want to buy something that down the road won't be supported. My roku 2xd still works and gets updated. But once I used my firetv stick I was hooked on speed.
I prefer Google devices and love my Nexus 7 2013. It has lots of support too.
Bottom line, and sorry for taking over, but could someone advise me on if I'd be better buying a Nexus Player or adt-1. FYI I'm not a gamer and don't play them often. I prefer my NES and n64. In fact I'd probably love using n64/nes/snes/gbaoid on one of these android tv devices lol.
What's the best for long term stability?
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2jlz3z/the_developer_adt1_vs_the_nexus_player_vs_amazon/
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In my opinion, you should get either of these 3:
Mad Catz Mojo Tegra 4
Kepler GPU
£120
Razor Forge TV Snapdragon 805
Adreno 420 GPU
£100
Snail Games Obox Tegra X1
Kepler GPU
£150
Other consoles like Amazon fire TV, Ouya all have outdated specs and you will get a lot better quality with what I mentioned above.
Look up each console and decide what you want.
I personally, want an Obox for the raw power of the X1 soc.
LiamAtkins90 said:
In my opinion, you should get either of these 3:
Mad Catz Mojo Tegra 4
Kepler GPU
£120
Razor Forge TV Snapdragon 805
Adreno 420 GPU
£100
Snail Games Obox Tegra X1
Kepler GPU
£150
Other consoles like Amazon fire TV, Ouya all have outdated specs and you will get a lot better quality with what I mentioned above.
Look up each console and decide what you want.
I personally, want an Obox for the raw power of the X1 soc.
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Very cool I will look into them. Almost bought the Madcatz ctrlr for my firetv stick. Lots of good reviews.
What do you think about this :
http://m.geekbuying.com/ItemDescription/336181
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jfriend33 said:
Very cool I will look into them. Almost bought the Madcatz ctrlr for my firetv stick. Lots of good reviews.
What do you think about this :
http://m.geekbuying.com/ItemDescription/336181
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It looks good, I'm not really a fan of mediatek chipsets though. But for £100 it's an OK price.