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My X has been running slow and a little funny. I have froyo 2.3.15, with FlyX Rom, Revolution Themes, LauncherPro Plus, and Beautiful Widgets all running. Revolution was the last thing I added about a week ago and ever since then, it seems to be running different. Its slower to react, doesn't change from portrait to landscape very fast, whenever I unlock the screen, if I'm holding it straight up and down, it always opens into landscape mode. This seems like a pretty standard setup to a lot of people on here. Any advice and info on this topic would be appreciated, or just conversation about what others are running similar or different. Thanks a lot!
(also, I ran quadrant benchmark with scores between 1440 and 1495)
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My X has been running slow and a little funny. I have froyo 2.3.15, with FlyX Rom, Revolution Themes, LauncherPro Plus, and Beautiful Widgets all running. Revolution was the last thing I added about a week ago and ever since then, it seems to be running different. Its slower to react, doesn't change from portrait to landscape very fast, whenever I unlock the screen, if I'm holding it straight up and down, it always opens into landscape mode. This seems like a pretty standard setup to a lot of people on here. Any advice and info on this topic would be appreciated, or just conversation about what others are running similar or different. Thanks a lot!
(also, I ran quadrant benchmark with scores between 1440 and 1495)
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I cannot recall whether or not FlyX includes the build.prop modifications or not, if not you would definitely want to make those. Other than that the only other thing I would recommend is giving MinFreeManager a shot, it changes the "low memory" requirements for the built in memory manager (task manager) of android. If configured properly it can really make a difference in both battery life and performance (not speed, but responsiveness). It does not do it for you, it lets you set the fields, so learn how to do it first, it varies depending on your use of your phone, I don't run any facebook or other streaming applications so my settings are 6,8,16,60,60,150 but this could vary greatly, and may adversely affect others, so read up on the app in the market.
Again that app will improve responsiveness, in that it will give you less delay when swyping the screen in the UI and such, in that your phone does not have to kill a task to free up memory to complete the next task, it will not improve benchmarks, at the same time, poor memory management will give you poor performance in real world use but may not affect your benchmarks, another reason that benchmarks are poor ways of measuring performance.
Outside of that, what it really comes down to is our Android systems need hardware acceleration... Google really needs to get of there... well... you know... and get with the game here, based off the recent discussion and their advisement to manufacturers to hold of the release of tablets until the next android release, I am hoping they are currently implementing it, but without GPU hardware acceleration in the UI and web browser, we will constantly have the appearance of choppiness and the illusion of poor performance even on our overqualified phones... it is one area where I am sad to say the iPhone has us beat... very sad to say... as a matter of fact, I just washed my mouth out with a bit of soap...
EDIT: a good example of how well that application worked for me over actual "tasks killers" on the market such as task killer and such... before having this app installed and configured, a quick investigation of "settings, applications, running services" and viewing the available memory, it would display "Avail:16MB+98MB in ##" after having this app and having it configured it displays "Avail:72MB+116MB in 26" I am assuming my poor UI responsiveness was due to the first of the two numbers...
Yeah I always hate to say that about iPhones too but they do seem to keep the same speed and responsiveness ALL the time... Oh well, they've been around a little longer so Android will just have to keep working on it. I believe it'll be there soon. I will try that app you recommended. I appreciate the speedy response.
brandon2x said:
Yeah I always hate to say that about iPhones too but they do seem to keep the same speed and responsiveness ALL the time... Oh well, they've been around a little longer so Android will just have to keep working on it. I believe it'll be there soon. I will try that app you recommended. I appreciate the speedy response.
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no problem, yeah, the iPhone has had GPU hardware acceleration in the UI since it came out, they structured their OS around it, Google chose otherwise, and I can only hope they regret that decision now... but hopefully they will make amends for that...
just make sure you read the post referenced in the app itself. It is written for the HTC Hero which only has 288MB of Ram as opposed to our 512MB Ram, but it still basically applies.
Keep in mind:
It does not automatically set on reboot until you tell it to, do not tell it to until you are sure the settings you have set do not mess with anything.
You probably will not notice a difference for about an hour... at least that's how long it took for me to truly notice a difference... I'm not really sure why, it apparently took that long for the priorities to take affect, and get the right processes killed, etc., etc. After that, especially later that day I was truly noticing a difference, especially in typing... I have always had a delay when typing on this phone, and that seems to be gone now...
yeah i was guessing that. i read an article at androidcentral.com about it and just set it to aggressive for now. applied it, but the specs under "running services" haven't changed so i'll give it an hour or so. i'll let you know how it turns out. thanks again!
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yeah i was guessing that. i read an article at androidcentral.com about it and just set it to aggressive for now. applied it, but the specs under "running services" haven't changed so i'll give it an hour or so. i'll let you know how it turns out. thanks again!
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Sounds good, your welcome and good luck!
If those settings work out for you without any problems, you'll probably want to up them a bit, it might say aggressive, but they are only so aggressive... If it makes a big difference for you then stick with them, if you still have slow down, and you are running what you described before, you can probably get away running settings similar to what I posted, just don't have them set on boot just in case, if they don't work out you can always set them lower or back to a preset. It is definitely something you can expiriment with, if worst comes to worst, you can always reboot, but as long as you don't touch the first 4 values, you won't mess anything up, the worst that you will do with the last 2 is temporarly screw up facebook sync. or something similar, and really you can get away with changing the 4th value to, it just has a chance of affecting more things, but I doubt you'll end up affecting anything with values around 50 anyway. Like I said, experimenting never hurts, slow phones do... Just keep an eye on it ;-) good luck again.
To add a little correction.if you are running fly x then you are not running 2.3.15 you are running the earlier related release it Is based on. Even if you did have2.3.15 before installing it fly x over writes the system to the files it uses. All roms do. Do you actually have like 2.3.9 I think
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It does say 2.3.9. I inquired about this before because I used teamblackhat to get .15 and the system never seemed to change to .15 every time I tried to download it... I guess that's why, because of flyx...
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After reading Captian Taco's post I was eager to try it out, and its actually making a big difference =D thanks!
Yes it is... its been running much smoother and more responsive all day. Thanks again captaintaco... (boy thats kinda funny to type...)
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Thanks CaptainTaco! Installed MFM to clear up my "lag" issues that are usually experienced in the evenings after a reset first thing in the a.m. each day. Before MFM it wasn't a huge deal to do a reset to clear up the issue, but I much prefer it to just work right all the time.
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Thanks CaptainTaco! Installed MFM to clear up my "lag" issues that are usually experienced in the evenings after a reset first thing in the a.m. each day. Before MFM it wasn't a huge deal to do a reset to clear up the issue, but I much prefer it to just work right all the time.
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Hey don't thank me, thank the creator of MFM, I'm pretty sure he was one of the first to discover the power of Androids integrated minimum memory management, if not the first. Just glad to share my discovery of his discovery haha. But yea, to be honest I don't even use a custom Rom anymore, it runs so quick just having that (thought it works even better in conjunction with your standard simplistic task killer such as "advanced task killer" just to kill apps in the foreground after you are done with them, since many apps don't include a way of closing themselves out...
I still try the custom Roms out and play around with them for the hell of it, but as for right now, I rely heavily on corporate integration, and most of the good blurless Roms remove features required for true and proper corporate sync, such as calender sync and the like... and I just don't like touchdown pro... So this helps me out greatly... remove some bloat, throw launcher pro on there, and get this fix fired up, phone runs like a dream... now if only they could get exchange active sync running like it was on Sense... best implementation I have seen of Exchange active sync so far... I do miss that...
Well after all the advice I ended up installing the zapx rom last night. Wow! It is sooo fast... everything just responds and reacts so much faster than before. I suggest installing zapx to anyone. Best rom so far I think...
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Have anyone tried WidgetLocker? What are your impressions on it? I've read is kinda slow on some phone, but what about on the Epic?
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Have anyone tried WidgetLocker? What are your impressions on it? I've read is kinda slow on some phone, but what about on the Epic?
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I purchased it shortly after I got my Epic, and after using a warez version for a while. It's pretty great, and isn't slow. It's not 100% seamless, but it's close enough to where you won't notice. The ability to hide the notification bar is great for privacy, its sliders are better than stock, and of course the ability to add widgets is nice. I'd take a screenshot, if I still had it set up (I haven't since I became a ROM developer ).
I also would like to say it is a very nice program and it is not slow runs great, I like the way you can have custom unlock open program sliders for fast access.
Cool, thanks for the replies
Its real nice, u can do a lot with it. The dev is good with support and its not slow.
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I read somebody saying that widgetlocker increased his battery use and therefore was good but gave him trouble because of short battery life. It could be a single case or it could be a issue. What is you guys experience who used it?? Did you notice any increased battery drain??
I love widgetlocker! Total +1 for me. It cause a little slowdown back on my 528 mhz cliq, but even on that horrible phone it wasnt that bad. On the epic I agree its 99% flawless. If you go through the list of settings after buying it and set it up to your own personal specs, it dosen't use all that much battery.
As for the battery issue, Widgetlocker does cause a service to run all the time that it is enabled, but to be honest after looking at battery stats it dosen't use a whole lot over the course of a normal day. Especially not enough to be a dealbreaker unless your a total minimalist/battery nazi. The guy mentioned above probably have tons of other issues with his phone causing battery life to be ****ty IMO.
I recommend people set the "Root Bypass of 5 second rule" in the advanced options menu, then you dont have to run the icon in the notification bar all the time, nor do you have to use widgetlockers "homehelper" (If you never used it and have no idea what i'm talking about, no worries, just do this if you try it lol)
Other than that though it's great. Have had it on my Epic since day 1 when I installed my apps back. Always worked great. Updates have added some newer looks also. Tons of possibilities. Love love it.
Question for you guys I used it for awhile but even with the 5 sec root bypass it still took about 2-3 seconds for the lock to appear after waking my phone. You guys come across this?
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i use it and i havent had that problem. also if you want to theme your slider, there is a thread in the android theme section on how to do it.
This is nothing new and nothing groundbreaking...but if you're new to Android, haven't seen this before, or simply forgot about it, I think you'll want to give it a try.
The animations in Lollipop are a bit over the top, more so than previous versions, and speeding them up really made the phone seem snappier. I was tempted to do this day 1 but wanted to live with normal Lollipop for a few weeks...yesterday I made the change and I know I could never go back.
Go to settings/developer options and scroll down to the three animation scale settings. Default is 1x. Change all three to 0.5x. Enjoy.
Note: If your developer options are not enabled, you can go to settings/about phone and tap on "Build Number" 7 times. The option will then be available in the settings menu.
lol.
this doesnt "speed" up your nexus. your nexus is just as fast, just faster animations. heck, if you want to make your nexus a rocket, turn them off completely
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lol.
this doesnt "speed" up your nexus. your nexus is just as fast, just faster animations. heck, if you want to make your nexus a rocket, turn them off completely
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In fact it doesn't speed up the Nexus 6...but it does "speed" it up lol. I will change the title to add the quotation marks. It definitely feels faster though and I don't know that you can dispute that
There's a reason I didn't promise miracles in this post!
I prefer to make mine longer at 5.0
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I love this tweak. It does actually speed the phone up, no quotes needed. Even if an app loads very quickly, the phone still "waits" for the animation to fully execute. This tweak means that switching apps and loading apps will be faster (in some cases). It is a true speedup.
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In fact it doesn't speed up the Nexus 6...but it does "speed" it up lol. I will change the title to add the quotation marks. It definitely feels faster though and I don't know that you can dispute that
There's a reason I didn't promise miracles in this post!
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i dont dispute it. ive had my animations disabled since a few days after android was released
its just saying it speeds it up is inaccurate. lets say it makes the ui feel faster
Its not faster. Things just take less time. ?
stumpy352 said:
Its not faster. Things just take less time. ?
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adjective, faster, fastest.
done in comparatively little time; taking a comparatively short time:
a fast race; fast work.
bleuiko said:
adjective, faster, fastest.
done in comparatively little time; taking a comparatively short time:
a fast race; fast work.
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Righto smart ass. Lol. ?
stumpy352 said:
Righto smart ass. Lol. ?
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I KNOW. I couldn't help myself from posting. :crying:
Thanks for this. I'm really liking the speedier animations so far.
Would the speedier animations tax the processor more and in turn use more battery? I'm sure it would be small if it did but I would like to know if it did.
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Would the speedier animations tax the processor more and in turn use more battery? I'm sure it would be small if it did but I would like to know if it did.
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I don't think it makes any difference at all to the processor. If anything, a faster animation lets you get to where you were going faster, thus reducing the amount of time you need to have your screen on.
Anybody know of a fix for the ridiculous amount of lag on Pie? Between that and the sad excuse of video recording, I'm really debating on going back to my buttery smooth Z2force. The only problem is this phone is pure eye candy, comfortable to hold, and my hands have betrayed my eyes recognition of the lag and fell in love this phone. . The performance is more like snapdragon 620 than 835. Any help regarding this situation would be highly appreciated
I have no lag on Pie, beta 3 or official. Sounds like your due for a full wipe
Well now that sucks considering I just moved about 90gigs to the device and thought I did a full wipe but just notice Alexa still installed. The funny thing is I had very little late lag on Beta 3.
mookiexl said:
Well now that sucks considering I just moved about 90gigs to the device and thought I did a full wipe but just notice Alexa still installed. The funny thing is I had very little late lag on Beta 3.
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I discovered this a month ago and it helps.just go to root/system/buildprop. Add the following to right under additional build settings.then reboot. That's the default setting, but u can mess with the value to get it to your liking
You're only saying there is lag, you're not describing where you are seeing this lag?
The only thing I can say is I thought apps would open faster on this, I have a phone with a SD625, and between this and the Essential, opening and closing apps seems like the same speed. But the startup on the Essential is faster...
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You're only saying there is lag, you're not describing where you are seeing this lag?
The only thing I can say is I thought apps would open faster on this, I have a phone with an SD625, and between this and the Essential, opening and closing apps seems like the same speed. But the startup on the Essential is faster...
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Scrolling in-app, swiping in-app and launcher, and also scrolling cards in recents. I have a z2force with SD835 and comparing this phone to the z2 this phone feels like an SD626
mookiexl said:
Scrolling in-app, swiping in-app and launcher, and also scrolling cards in recents. I have a z2force with SD835 and comparing this phone to the z2 this phone feels like an SD626
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If I were you, I'd wipe everything, and then fastboot the full official pie update. Just to fully eliminate software.
Hi there I am the same boat like you . I got lag typing on keyboard scroll is not smooth at all .I tried reinstalling the latest build and factory full reset pus wipe all data .I can't resolve the lag I think they rush to get it in the same date like the pixel but is not optimised for this device for example get an icon and hold it and get it to place it in another location you will find out that the icon is behind when you move it
The only and I think temporary fix is by doing this
Go and click 5 times on build number and go in developer settings you will find there touch sensitivity set it to 10 let say default is 4 I think . You will improve touch latency a bit .
I just bought the device I don't know how it was on Oreo but I can say on this pie build official is not smooth
@mookiexl got to the Developer Options;
Windows animation scale - off
Transition animation scale - off or .5x
Animator duration scale - off or .5x
Also increasing the 'Touch Sensitivity' increases the scrolling speed.
Play with these and watch it fly! LOL
It would be great if someone can take a video so we can actually see this lag with our own eyes.
I just got my phone and it turned out bad, sending it back, new one on the way. It makes me wonder now if all the stories about bad hardware is true on these phones, since I've never had a bad phone ever in my life, then my first Essential turns out bad.
Wifi problems connecting
Statusbar icons appearing in white, turn all black
Phone speaker, bad quality, can't even turn it up, or it gets distorted
Head speaker, is low, volume isn't loud enough
Adaptive brightness doesn't work
Volume got stuck at one point when it was set as all the way down, no sound, then I wasn't able turn the sound back on, nothing would happen on either buttons...
So hopefully new phone arriving will be better, and from this experience, I think I'll keep it on Oreo for a long time, until people start raving over Pie.
And between a SD625 and this SD835, can't say I saw a big speed difference too... hmm
post error...
DoR3M3 said:
@mookiexl got to the Developer Options;
Windows animation scale - off
Transition animation scale - off or .5x
Animator duration scale - off or .5x
Also increasing the 'Touch Sensitivity' increases the scrolling speed.
Play with these and watch it fly! LOL
It would be great if someone can take a video so we can actually see this lag with our own eyes.
I just got my phone and it turned out bad, sending it back, new one on the way. It makes me wonder now if all the stories about bad hardware is true on these phones, since I've never had a bad phone ever in my life, then my first Essential turns out bad.
Wifi problems connecting
Statusbar icons appearing in white, turn all black
Phone speaker, bad quality, can't even turn it up, or it gets distorted
Head speaker, is low, volume isn't loud enough
Adaptive brightness doesn't work
Volume got stuck at one point when it was set as all the way down, no sound, then I wasn't able turn the sound back on, nothing would happen on either buttons...
So hopefully new phone arriving will be better, and from this experience, I think I'll keep it on Oreo for a long time, until people start raving over Pie.
And between a SD625 and this SD835, can't say I saw a big speed difference too... hmm
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I hear ya brother. To be fair I haven't had any of those other problems I heard about before buying the phone besides what's mentioned in this thread. 3rd party camera apps with full manual control drastically improved camera quality for my device. If you want to see the lag I'm taking about just YouTube it.
As far as SD625 and Sd835, there's a huge difference for me being a power user. Lots of gaming, editing videos, download big files, or even just transferring data from internal to external sd you will definitely see a big difference in performance during any memory extensive task.
@mookiexl
Do you know any YouTube videos with the same issues you're having, you can show us?
I only found one for Camera Portrait Lag.
Fastboot install of 9.0 over the official July 8.1. Magisk root.
No device lag or issues with WiFi, volume or any of the things above. The only lag I see is my own getting to grips with the UI changes.
USOpen device used in the UK.
It sounds like you're both having some kind of install/integrity issue. Did you test the checksum?
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Do you know any YouTube videos with the same issues you're having, you can show us?
I only found one for Camera Portrait Lag.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbw_TUnfXuU
kboya said:
Fastboot install of 9.0 over the official July 8.1. Magisk root.
No device lag or issues with WiFi, volume or any of the things above. The only lag I see is my own getting to grips with the UI changes.
USOpen device used in the UK.
It sounds like you're both having some kind of install/integrity issue. Did you test the checksum?
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All I've done since receiving the device is take all system updates and then unlocked bootloader which in turn wipe data. See the video I posted for details. If you have another SD835 device to compare it too try tha,t or better yet don't because it will make the lag very bothersome once you know its there.
That video is a year old. I have no discernible lag even with upward of 20 apps in the background, but I'm not saying that you don't.
Also, I had this and a Google PXL at the same time up until a few weeks ago. If anything, the PH1 was better, smoother and faster.
I've got serious lag... Keyoress lag, stuttering during scrolling. Could it be because of RAM usage? The stats in developer options say that I using 3.4 out of 3.9 gb on average....
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I have no lag on Pie, beta 3 or official. Sounds like your due for a full wipe
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Can you explain how I dod a full wipe?
Since the Dec update much less ram.locked up
autosurgeon said:
Since the Dec update much less ram.locked up
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I'm on November and ram management Is fine for me.
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Hi there,
I am now using my RN7 (3/32) for about a week and I am really disappointed about the perfomance. I had a P9Lite and a Moto Z Play before, both phones did start Apps way faster than the RN7. I also have little lags when scrolling e.g. in Nova launcher or the system setting. Is this normal that a 2 year old phone with half as much antutu score as the RN7 is faster? Or do I have to change anything?
Phone is not rooted, all on stock and I also did a factory reset two times. The unlock is requested but I have to wait for 168 hours.
Thank you and with best reguards.
AlPai said:
Hi there,
I am now using my RN7 (3/32) for about a week and I am really disappointed about the perfomance. I had a P9Lite and a Moto Z Play before, both phones did start Apps way faster than the RN7. I also have little lags when scrolling e.g. in Nova launcher or the system setting. Is this normal that a 2 year old phone with half as much antutu score as the RN7 is faster? Or do I have to change anything?
Phone is not rooted, all on stock and I also did a factory reset two times. The unlock is requested but I have to wait for 168 hours.
Thank you and with best reguards.
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Stock MIUI is kinda laggy with lots of bloatwares. If you compare those phones, make sure to take into account of their hardware specs and default softwares.
You can search for how to make MIUI run more smoothly.
Thank you, I replaced the phone now by a Poco F1.
AlPai said:
Thank you, I replaced the phone now by a Poco F1.
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Haha, now that is A solution !
My Note 7 fell into the sea, so I changed it with another Poco. Now my Huawei Mate screen is screwed up, I had an excuse to get another Note 7, but this time from online, so much cheaper from China.
I think the Note 7 is very good, but I had it rooted, and unbloated, and other stuff.
Dont see why for me it performs really well, just have to optimize it, unlock bootloader root custom ROM and custom kernel
My 24/7 settings Alucardshed governor limited to 300-2150
HW Prime
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I also had a antutu of about 142000, this seems to be normal and also okay for the phone. My biggest problem was, that there very little lags when scrolling in the menu or e.g. Nova launcher. Also switching between apps took really long, not because of a lack of memory more because of the apps were closed too fast and had to be reloaded really often. When you turn the phone on and want to have a quick look on faceboo, the app har to reload nearly every time. I know this is high-level moaning, but it just drove me crazy.
The phone is okay, you always have to keep in mind how much it costs. But I did expect more from it as in Germany it was praised as the midclass-killer phone.
AlPai said:
I also had a antutu of about 142000, this seems to be normal and also okay for the phone. My biggest problem was, that there very little lags when scrolling in the menu or e.g. Nova launcher. Also switching between apps took really long, not because of a lack of memory more because of the apps were closed too fast and had to be reloaded really often. When you turn the phone on and want to have a quick look on faceboo, the app har to reload nearly every time. I know this is high-level moaning, but it just drove me crazy.
The phone is okay, you always have to keep in mind how much it costs. But I did expect more from it as in Germany it was praised as the midclass-killer phone.
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Every device is great when you know how to tweak it. As you replaced your RN7 with a Poco F1, this thread can be closed.