Official 5.1 Feedback [Moto G 4G] - Moto G General

Hi guys,
Now that some 5.1 ROMs have started to roll out in a few countries, could anyone who has tried it give us a little detailed review of lollipop?
I'm especially interested in the following points (in comparison to KitKat):
-Memory management
-Battery life
-Any bugs (real bugs, not things you just don't like)
Just a reminder: I'm asking for info on official android 5.1, NOT 5.0.X
Cheers to anyone for taking part! :beer::beer::beer:
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Anyone?
C'mon guys, a few European countries have rolled out now, I'm sure someone could give us a review
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I updated mine last night from 4.4.4-5.1
Don't know what I can say to be honest though it's nice and smooth so far

steve.loveday said:
I updated mine last night from 4.4.4-5.1
Don't know what I can say to be honest though it's nice and smooth so far
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Cheers :beer: If you notice anything worth mentioning please let us know
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I don't have a 4G but I'd be interested if anyone with battery drain AFTER using GPS still has it after the update, or is it fixed...

Hi, i updated it yesterday and my mobile is a lot more smooth!
With KitKat I was having huge memory problems, I couldn't use Spotify and chrome at the same time cause the music on the background was killed and the launcher redrawn. But now I can open apps with music on the background, multitask changing between apps without a redraw. It seems like it's fixed, I hope it doesn't get bad with time.
Battery seems better but can't say nothing that soon.
Also I've noticed something: there is no quicksettings bar widget (at least I can't find it) and screen cast included in 5.1 doesn't work, it says no device found, and doesn't let you add or search for devices.

Update was a little bit over 400 mb big. It took a while to download. The device didn't get warm during the update procedure. Pulling down notification bar twice shows the toggles (brightness slider, screencast and flash light included). Settings got a separate icon. There's a guest mode. If you touch the battery symbol, you'll be directed directly to the according settings menu. Virtual buttons and icon of the messages app changed also. Background color of the settings and notifications is white. You can delete all of the notifications at once. The notifications are prominently shown on the lock screen. Multitasking got a new look either (Material design).

how to root 5.1?

I've found it's still possible to crash Google Play Music or Poweramp from within Chrome. Do too much and one's music stops. I had the same issue on KitKat - normal apps are generally okay but things that are slightly heavier on the CPU make the sound jump or cut out (the player restarts about a minute later paused). Not too bothered, I just avoid surfing if I'm listening to music. Using Bluetooth audio if that makes a difference.
I had to factory reset initially - update was a bit sluggish (marginal) and battery wasn't great. Encountered a few oddities.
Luckily all my apps reinstalled and none of my data was lost except SMS messages and e-mail account logins (odd); everything else either synced or was on the SD card. Didn't take long; 5 minutes doing the welcome setup, outside that 30 mins either side where I just left the phone to do things.
No other bugs here. Yet. Though the performance isn't on-par with KitKat (I think). It's marginal though; Google Now might not pop up as quickly or the animation might lag if something else is going on. But all in all it's a trade-off for the material design which is oh-so nice.

Thank you very much
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Ok, my Moto G is running Lollipop now for 24 h. It does look defintely nice, there is no mistake about it. And it's quite responsive, but the WLAN connection is the opposite of it...
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XShocker22 said:
Ok, my Moto G is running Lollipop now for 24 h. It does look defintely nice, there is no mistake about it. And it's quite responsive, but the WLAN connection is the opposite of it...
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What do you mean?
First time I read about WiFi problems, even on the CM threads... Connectivity drops?
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crakeron said:
What do you mean?
First time I read about WiFi problems, even on the CM threads... Connectivity drops?
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No, I can not check for sure, but the latancy must be abnormously high, because the reaction in Browser and Apps over the Internet is hilarious...
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Have been running it for roughly 48h... processor has minimum state of 787 MHz (instead of 300 something MHz), and every second reboot Android seems to reset the Dalvik (loading apps at startup). Otherwise pretty impressed. I did a full reset after the installation btw... Here with retail German XT1039 5.1

I've rooted now. I was having issues with the memory filling up. Google App seems to be the worst offender but I use it a lot so I've left it alone.
Installed AdAway, removed Motorola Alert/Assist, some Google Apps and a few other things and unsurprisingly, things have massively sped up. Tempted to remove the random services which are probably orphaned ie. com.motorola.bug2go, com.motorola.emarphoneextns, com.motorola.motgeofencesvc, Invisible Net 1.0, etc. etc. but no idea what they do.

I thought there was no method yet to root Peregrine with 5.1 . Could you tell us how did you do it?

Using this method worked fine for me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56800467
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Yeah I used the chainfire method, pushed a new logo via adb to get rid of the bootloader unlocked warning.
For some speed you can install AdAway, use Greenify with root and uninstall some system apps. That said it's probably worth steering clear of Xposed and GravityBox since its early days (former is super alpha).
I am eagerly awaiting a way to cleanly strip out all of the Motorola components without leaving any hooks, oddities or references in the Settings Menu or elsewhere. Just for a bit more free RAM. New phone so still enjoying Stock. Tried playing with MyAndroidToolkit(?) to kill wakelocks but didn't know what I was doing so hit the reset button when location services started acting dodgy. Seems 1GB RAM is not enough for me

Do you recommend wiping cache after update?
Thanks!

Hello,
I have had boootloader-unlocked stockrom 4.4.4 and made the ota 5.1 update and i got a message (status 7) while updating and it aborted. Black screen and nothing else. I tried many things - 15 hours long. Phone did not been recognized by PC (unknown device). Now, I tried to charge the phone and it works like nothing happened.
What did i made wrong? Do I have to lock bootloader before updating? How? What is "Status 7"? Is there another method to get lollipop to the phone (with unlocked bootloader)?

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Lenovo K1 JB V5

I would like to put in my 2 cents on the JB V5 by Krook1. I have installed the ROM and have to agree with others, my Bluetooth will try to turn on then it will shut itself off again. Also as a side note I had Conde Nast "Wired Magazine" working on khanning official ICS 4.0.3 ROM and now it will start but crash on JB V5.
Keep up the fight for the best ROM possible since Lenovo left us high and dry.
Do you know if it has the same app compatibility Khannings recent ICS rom has?
Jeeab said:
Do you know if it has the same app compatibility Khannings recent ICS rom has?
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No it doesn't. I'm finding all the apps I normally use but the model number is "K1" rather then "Xoom"
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Right, several people now are reporting the Bluetooth problem with v5. Not sure what would have changed to make it break between v3 and v5, because it doesn't look like the changes were in that area. Otherwise I'm very happy with it -- hope the fix is something simple!
Regarding compatibility, I haven't found too many apps that aren't compatible, but some (Amazon Mobile, for instance) have not been compatible since the K1 came out, and still aren't.
Hi
Sorry i am not sure if this is the right place. I've also have v5 an bluetooth isn't workin. But i have a bigger problem(for me) i can't start youtube over the app icon. After googeling a while i find out that i can start over the widget but cannot access the startpage.
I already tried a reflash of v5 and also deinstalled / installed youtube a few times
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Youtube, Bluetooth, Overclocking
friedolino said:
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Sorry i am not sure if this is the right place. I've also have v5 an bluetooth isn't workin. But i have a bigger problem(for me) i can't start youtube over the app icon. After googeling a while i find out that i can start over the widget but cannot access the startpage.
I already tried a reflash of v5 and also deinstalled / installed youtube a few times
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The YouTube app seems to be running fine on my tablet with CM10 v5. I assume you mean you're having trouble launching it from the standard YouTube app icon in the launcher, but it seems OK to me. Have you tried going into Settings->Apps, finding YouTube, and deleting the data and cache?
I see in the development thread that krook says he will be looking into the Bluetooth problem (Thanks, krook! :good. Let's hope it's an easy one.
Is anyone else experimenting with the Overclock kernel? I've tried running at 1.2GHz, and it seems to run smoothly, without any glitches, but I'm a little afraid to push it up to 1.4GHz.
K1Andy said:
The YouTube app seems to be running fine on my tablet with CM10 v5. I assume you mean you're having trouble launching it from the standard YouTube app icon in the launcher, but it seems OK to me. Have you tried going into Settings->Apps, finding YouTube, and deleting the data and cache?
I see in the development thread that krook says he will be looking into the Bluetooth problem (Thanks, krook! :good. Let's hope it's an easy one.
Is anyone else experimenting with the Overclock kernel? I've tried running at 1.2GHz, and it seems to run smoothly, without any glitches, but I'm a little afraid to push it up to 1.4GHz.
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I've been using it all day at 1.4ghz and its been fast and smooth! Hasn't even been getting hot. I'll probably take it back down to help save battery life and take it up when I need the extra power boost.
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DevsAwesome said:
I've been using it all day at 1.4ghz and its been fast and smooth! Hasn't even been getting hot. I'll probably take it back down to help save battery life and take it up when I need the extra power boost.
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Thanks, I guess I'll have to give it a try. I'm not sure if it would be easy to tell if the processor was getting warm. Based on some teardown pictures of the K1 I saw, it looks like the processor is on the side of the internal circuit board that faces the screen (essentially, it's sandwiched in between the circuit board and the back side of the screen), so it probably wouldn't be easy to tell if it's getting hot. Still, it doesn't usually stay at peak frequency for very long, and even at 1.2GHz it's pretty darn zippy!
K1 JB v5 Wifi Tethering
Did someone tried to use Wifi Tethering?
I installed v5 and i didn't find the option to turn Wifi Tethering on. UMTS (3G) is working well.
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Did someone tried to use Wifi Tethering?
I installed v5 and i didn't find the option to turn Wifi Tethering on. UMTS (3G) is working well.
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Is your Bluetooth working on your 3G version of v5? It appears that Bluetooth is broken (won't turn/stay on) in v5 for most of the WiFi tablet users. I assume you're talking about tethering via Bluetooth.
Speed up your startup time
I posted this over on the Lenovo forums, but thought it useful enough that it might be worth repeating here:
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Useful tip I discoved today: I noticed that my tablet startup seemed to be taking a lot longer than it used to, so I did some investigation and found that a process called the Media Scanner that was eating up a bunch of CPU time during system startup. It turns out that this process scans all the folders on internal storage (other than hidden or system areas) and on the external SD card for any kind of media file (mp3, pictures, movies, etc.). I had a couple of large folders of files on my external SD card containing app backups from Titanium Backup and a previous backup app that I had used, so I realized the scanner could be taking some time to go through those folders.
Well, it turns out that if you put an empty file with the name ".nomedia" (note the initial period) in a folder, then the media scanner will skip the scanning of that folder and all of its subfolders. And sure enough, after having put such a file in several folders that I knew contained no media, and rebooting, the boot process (i.e., the time until all apps are loaded and stable) went much faster.
I assume that many people who have done these ICS/JB upgrades might have similar large backup folders for their apps, so I thought this was a tip worth passing on, to speed up your startup time.
I find the CM10 rom to be the best of the lot. I am using V5 and before that I tried the official Lenovo roms but it was unstable.
steve30x said:
I find the CM10 rom to be the best of the lot. I am using V5 and before that I tried the official Lenovo roms but it was unstable.
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Agree. Krook has announced that he should shortly have a fix for the Bluetooth issue introduced in v5, and with that, I think this will be the "complete package".

Memory leak hasn't been fixed in 4.3

The surfaceflinger seems to have indeed been fixed, but there is still a memory leak in the system, which I now encountered it for the 2nd time. I wanted to make screenshots, but just after I made the 2nd one, the tablet soft rebooted. It didn't freeze, it didn't show any google logo, it went directly to the boot animation and then the tablet booted. This seems to have been fixed it, unlike the previous surface flinger issue where you needed a normal reboot.
Anyway, in the 1st screenshot you can see 44h of uptime, in the 2nd one I took a pic in quick system info which displayed 198mb of free ram, just after I cleared all the processes, but then the tablet immediately soft rebooted and apparently didn't save the screenshot.
Running "ps su" in terminal emulator showed 56 rss, if I typed "su" 1st and then "ps su" there were 2 rows, one with 56 rss and the second with 116 rss, so the surface flinger has apparently been fixed.
Running factory image 4.3, rooted, deodexed, stock kernel. Has anyone experienced this issue on 4.3 so far?
LE: Oh I forgot to attach the first screenshot, sorry. Anyway it's a pic from cpu spy, which displayed 44h of uptime, so it's not that important.
I had just nearly the same phenomen. But my n10 softrebooted when I was starting to examine the process table. I just had found surfaceflinger, so I'm sure it was not that process, but sadly I hadn't found the mem-eater, when the colored X appeared.
I had done a dirty flash from aokp-pub, so I am not sure to blame android-4.3. But mem-leaks stick like sh** on a shoesole, so I'm sure, if it does not result from dirty flashing, we will hear soon from a new memory leak... (hopefully in some opensource part - cm and aokp team are faster in n10 support then google...)
I haven't had a single reboot since I flashed 4.3. My uptime is up into the 90+ hours range, and it would be higher if i hadn't had to reboot to install root, Adaway and the AOSP browser. I mainly use the tablet to browse the internet (using the AOSP browser) and reddit (via reddit news app), plus some youtube videos (using the youtube app) occasionally. I rarely play games, though I have played a little Real Racing 3 since the last bootup.
My advice is to download the stock rom from the google developers website, and completely wipe the tablet clean via the "flash-all" script. Re-install only the bare minimum apps, and see if the issues persist.
I have 4.3 from Friday. No restarts at all, but I noticed two times strange behaviour. Tablet was soo slow, every action was soo laggy. I had to restart it. Maybe its apex fault. Im not sure
Amiga4ever123 said:
I have 4.3 from Friday. No restarts at all, but I noticed two times strange behaviour. Tablet was soo slow, every action was soo laggy. I had to restart it. Maybe its apex fault. Im not sure
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Same here on Nova
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Ladies and gentlemen, I present you the "suspect": Google's Chrome, the all time crap browser.
I also mostly use the AOSP browser and occasionally Opera for some downloads that I can't do with the stock browser. I installed Chrome a few days ago to see how it works in 4.3 and it does indeed work better, but the 1st memory leak I encountered happened the day I used chrome, I'm sure of it. I wasn't much impressed with it so I went back to AOSP browser and everything worked fine, then I decided to give it another try: bam, memory leak again, yesterday, the day I used chrome again.
Also, I read some comments on the forums about people having reboots on 4.3, WHILE using chrome.
In fact, in 4.2.2 while we had the surface flinger problems, I remember that chrome was the main cause.
I am back to using AOSP and Opera and everything is working superbly.
Amiga4ever123 said:
I have 4.3 from Friday. No restarts at all, but I noticed two times strange behaviour. Tablet was soo slow, every action was soo laggy. I had to restart it. Maybe its apex fault. Im not sure
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malikalhaji said:
Same here on Nova
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Are you rooted? If so, there is a bug in SuperSU V1.41 which causes CPU usage to sit at 100%...
Ref:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...persu-update-to-v1-43-to-fix-the-100-cpu-bug/
Yep rooted. My Chrome is disabled. I hope update supersu will solve the problem with cpu usage. Thx for info about it
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Are you rooted? If so, there is a bug in SuperSU V1.41 which causes CPU usage to sit at 100%...
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...persu-update-to-v1-43-to-fix-the-100-cpu-bug/
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Same here, might be SU fault, but I was using 1.43 when the tablet starts to lag heavily without rebooting. Couldn't find what the culprit was, CPU usage was normal, there was plenty of ram, even tried killing all background apps and services with no luck. Not even a hot boot could fix the lag.
Since then I've updated to SU1.5 so we'll see how that goes.
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I got a reboot last night. Opened Google Now and it went to the bootanimation. Stock 4.3 with the Flaming Monkey Kernel, SU 1.45. It was my first reboot since January, when I went to custom ROMs. Went back to stock kernel, we'll see if that helps. Also, what AOSP Browser are you guys using? The one from the Installer from the play store closes every 5-10 minutes, and the apk ripped from CM 10.1.1.0 crashes on start-up...And I stopped using Chrome in January, and never had a reboot until Chrome was installed on 4.3. Coincidence? Probably not...
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Never had any issues even on 4.2.2 with any sort of memory leak. Was able to go at least 5 days without any reboots and that's with using the chrome browser. I haven't used 4.3 long enough to post my findings with it but so far after 3 days it seems to be about the same. The only thing I can think of is that I bought my Nexus 10 in May so I don't know if a newer hardware version would make any difference.
Also, those of you with random reboots have you tried updating your boot loader yet? Not sure if or how it would make any difference but it's worth a shot.
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What are your impressions of 5.1?

It took my a while, but thanks to Wugfresh I was finally able to instal 5.1 on my N6. Curious to know what the general consensus is. I've only had it up and running for 6 hours, but has anyone noticed improvement in battery life or memory management?
Thanks.
When I get it.....
For now still waiting.
Think I will like the change in notifications where I can select WiFi hotspot with going into settings.
The battery life has always been great on 5.01
Read all 4 cores are active but I doubt I will notice.
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When I get it.....
For now still waiting.
Think I will like the change in notifications where I can select WiFi hotspot with going into settings.
The battery life has always been great on 5.01
Read all 4 cores are active but I doubt I will notice.
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Franco's kernel has given my battery some extra life, I hope this update does the same.
I have yet to get the two bugs that were really getting on my nerves previously in 5.0 and 5.0.1
1- Random restarts. They could happen at any time, but it seemed like they would happen when I was trying to text. I'd try to keep closing my text messenger application (happened with both Google Messenger and Hangouts), but it didn't always help. I'd send a text message, put my phone down and then a few seconds later, notice the Google logo because it was restarting.
2- Sometimes when the screen powers up, all I see on my lock screen is a blank black background, the on-screen back button and the usual clock and what not at the top of the phone. Otherwise, the screen itself is black and I'm basically locked out of my phone until I restarted it. If I was lucky and I was using my Bluetooth headset, if I received a phone call, that would sometimes get the phone to snap out of it and allow me to answer the phone call and then when the call was done I'd get the normal lock screen again.
So far so good with 5.1 *knocks on wood*
I just flash it this morning and I feel like im still on 5.0.1. I only use 1 wifi connection and 1 bluetooth connection, so a drop down menu doesn't really effect my daily usage since I don't switch them. Whatever they did behind the hood to improve performance/battery will be nice, but haven't had it installed long enough yet to notice anything different really.
I would also like to know how the 4 cores being force enabled effects the experience before I make the jump.
5.1 is what Lollipop should have been from launch. It's equivalent to Windows 7 replacing Vista. It's that much better.
Sideloaded with adb on my stock att N6. Seems real quick so far. Don't notice any additional drain on battery.
So far it seems about the same as before to me. However, I am on Sprint and the new radio that prevents duplicate texts is awesome so that part of it makes it seem like a new device.
I play Hearthstone, Kingdom Rush and Clash of Clans on My nexus 6 and they all run fine so far.
I did un-encrypt like before. I cannot comment on battery life yet since it hasn't even been 24 hours for me since I updated.
So far so good. Battery life has certainly improved, it was pretty abysmal for me before. I only experienced one bug that I know of on 5.0.1 where occasionally my status bar and nav bar would disappear and the phone was in a partially locked state. Trying to slide down the notification drawer would show the lockscreen. Hopefully that's fixed.
is double tap to wake.. enable in 5.1??
I'm not on a N6 yet, but my GNex is on 5.1, and to compare (because I've only got 1Gb of RAM here, it's a good test because the margins are so small compared to having 3Gb) the 5.1 update is by far the most stable yet for my device. 5.0 was baaad, but consider how many commits corrected memory leaks and you can tell this is the one. I'm looking forward to getting my N6 with 5.1 on it.
Big dialer bug in 5.1. Anyone else getting it?
My screen immediately locks and turns off in the dialer when initiating or answering phone calls. I have no access to onscreen controls until the call is terminated. I cannot hangup, select speakerphone, go to my home screen, etc., until the call ends and Android gives me my screen back.
I'm stock rooted on a 64gb N6 on Verizon. In order to maintain my data and settings I used fastboot to individually flash the new bootloader, radio, system, and boot images.
The same thing happened to an acquaintance of mine who is not rooted and did a fresh install.
Bug reported to Google, ID 160006, if you're interested.
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I am noticing a huge performance improvement from 5.0.1 already. Battery life is also better. I am not having the dialer issue like some, but have seen 3 instances of people saying the same thing.
Was on stock, now on Vanillipop 1.6 with Franco Kernel r20.
Much smoother and the battery seems improved. Still testing out.
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Big dialer bug in 5.1. Anyone else getting it?
My screen immediately locks and turns off in the dialer when initiating or answering phone calls. I have no access to onscreen controls until the call is terminated. I cannot hangup, select speakerphone, go to my home screen, etc., until the call ends and Android gives me my screen back.
I'm stock rooted on a 64gb N6 on Verizon. In order to maintain my data and settings I used fastboot to individually flash the new bootloader, radio, system, and boot images.
The same thing happened to an acquaintance of mine who is not rooted and did a fresh install.
Bug reported to Google, ID 160006, if you're interested.
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got a tempered glass protector on it?
Fly135s said:
Big dialer bug in 5.1. Anyone else getting it?
My screen immediately locks and turns off in the dialer when initiating or answering phone calls. I have no access to onscreen controls until the call is terminated. I cannot hangup, select speakerphone, go to my home screen, etc., until the call ends and Android gives me my screen back.
I'm stock rooted on a 64gb N6 on Verizon. In order to maintain my data and settings I used fastboot to individually flash the new bootloader, radio, system, and boot images.
The same thing happened to an acquaintance of mine who is not rooted and did a fresh install.
Bug reported to Google, ID 160006, if you're interested.
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Do you use a screen protector that covers the sensor? I know there is a thread somewhere around here with a lot of people that have that issue and it's because of their screen protector in 5.1 for some reason.
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Greatly, its butter all the time.
I haven't noticed a whole lot yet, some games seem to be playing a lot better, the graphical glitch I was seeing on xcom seems to have disappeared so its actually playable now
I've been experiencing an increase in fluidness (is that a word) throughout the UI as a whole, the phone moves from task to task without any stutter and the animations seem to have a bit more polish to them. Checking on the battery now, but I was never a power user to begin with. Overall it may not look like much but you can tell there are some big time enhancements coming from 5.0.1

Anyone having any Lag & Heat Issues???

Having Lag & Heat Issues???
Is anyone having lag issue or any heat issues? I guess I have one of the problem notes as mine has extreme lag and heat problems. I have cleared all caches and have also factory reset several times. What's weird is that the lag will come and go, but it's there more often than not. Even scrolling in settings has the jitters.
Any ideas anyone. I might be better off going through the miserable process of exchanging through the mail.
Thanks in advance for any help!
You'll have to boot to safe mode to see if the issue persists. Also, make sure power saving mode isn't on (I've left it on before).
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You'll have to boot to safe mode to see if the issue persists. Also, make sure power saving mode isn't on (I've left it on before).
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I'm experiencing the same issues - overheating, slowing down, serious lag. It's simply terrible. I exchanged it and the new one is just as bad and maybe even worse.
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I'm experiencing the same issues - overheating, slowing down, serious lag. It's simply terrible. I exchanged it and the new one is just as bad and maybe even worse.
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welcome to samsung
I have none of these problems and i am a heavy user
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My guess is it has to do with one or multiple of the apps you have installed. There is a 3 step process to fix this issue.
#1 - See if any of the apps you have installed are running rouge. Check, battery usage, RAM usage, and Data Usage to see if you have any bad apps. Uninstall any 3rd party apps that you installed that are running too much. They may just still need updated to be optimized for this new device. Also you can use the "sleep" (doze) feature in battery management to restrict apps that are running TOO much in the background. Also on any apps that are using too much data or RAM check the permissions. If an app does not need access to Data, Media etc to work properly turn off those permissions.
#2 Debloat the device. I like "Package Disabler Pro". Basically if it has Facebook, FB, or ATT in the name you should disable it. Also you can go through an disable any Samsung software you do not use as well. I would be careful about using the "disable all bloatware" button because it is not setup correctly for this new device yet.
#3 Give it some time. It you have a TON of media on a micro EXSD card then it can take a new phone a long time to index and create thumbnails for all of that information. It should speed up i about a day or so once it finishes indexing. this will also effect your battery life till it is completed.
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My guess is it has to do with one or multiple of the apps you have installed. There is a 3 step process to fix this issue.
#1 - See if any of the apps you have installed are running rouge. Check, battery usage, RAM usage, and Data Usage to see if you have any bad apps. Uninstall any 3rd party apps that you installed that are running too much. They may just still need updated to be optimized for this new device. Also you can use the "sleep" (doze) feature in battery management to restrict apps that are running TOO much in the background. Also on any apps that are using too much data or RAM check the permissions. If an app does not need access to Data, Media etc to work properly turn off those permissions.
#2 Debloat the device. I like "Package Disabler Pro". Basically if it has Facebook, FB, or ATT in the name you should disable it. Also you can go through an disable any Samsung software you do not use as well. I would be careful about using the "disable all bloatware" button because it is not setup correctly for this new device yet.
#3 Give it some time. It you have a TON of media on a micro EXSD card then it can take a new phone a long time to index and create thumbnails for all of that information. It should speed up i about a day or so once it finishes indexing. this will also effect your battery life till it is completed.
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I used the disable all bloatware. Looks to be working fine.
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I used the disable all bloatware. Looks to be working fine.
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Yeah it will break Samsung Pay though... I think it's related to the UIBCVirtualSiftkey app, but have not confirmed that. Also it does not get nearly all of the bloatware. There is a ton of new AT&T junk it does not disable as well as a bunch of new Facebook crap and Samsung crap.
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Yeah it will break Samsung Pay though... I think it's related to the UIBCVirtualSiftkey app, but have not confirmed that. Also it does not get nearly all of the bloatware. There is a ton of new AT&T junk it does not disable as well as a bunch of new Facebook crap and Samsung crap.
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Can you provide a list?
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Can you provide a list?
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Definitely. It gave me the perfect opportunity to try out the scroll capture. Let me know if you have any questions. This is what I have disabled so far without any issues. Once I get a full completed list I'll probably do a write up about how to clean up the dock ROM. I think I'm about 70% done with the list.
So far I'm getting about 6.5 hrs of SOT and about 28 his of usage.
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Definitely. It gave me the perfect opportunity to try out the scroll capture. Let me know if you have any questions. This is what I have disabled so far without any issues. Once I get a full completed list I'll probably do a write up about how to clean up the dock ROM. I think I'm about 70% done with the list.
So far I'm getting about 6.5 hrs of SOT and about 28 his of usage.
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What is the file that could mess up Samsung pay? I can always restore disabled apps correct?
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What is the file that could mess up Samsung pay? I can always restore disabled apps correct?
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I am not positive but I think it's the UIBCVirtualSoftkey if the doesn't fix it. Just enable all of the stuff you disabled and reboot. Then only disable what's on my list. I can confirm is working with my setup.
I'm exchanging mine tomorrow and was hoping for better news but from your experience it sounds like I may have to deal with an expensive piece of crap.
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My guess is it has to do with one or multiple of the apps you have installed. There is a 3 step process to fix this issue.
#1 - See if any of the apps you have installed are running rouge. Check, battery usage, RAM usage, and Data Usage to see if you have any bad apps. Uninstall any 3rd party apps that you installed that are running too much. They may just still need updated to be optimized for this new device. Also you can use the "sleep" (doze) feature in battery management to restrict apps that are running TOO much in the background. Also on any apps that are using too much data or RAM check the permissions. If an app does not need access to Data, Media etc to work properly turn off those permissions.
#2 Debloat the device. I like "Package Disabler Pro". Basically if it has Facebook, FB, or ATT in the name you should disable it. Also you can go through an disable any Samsung software you do not use as well. I would be careful about using the "disable all bloatware" button because it is not setup correctly for this new device yet.
#3 Give it some time. It you have a TON of media on a micro EXSD card then it can take a new phone a long time to index and create thumbnails for all of that information. It should speed up i about a day or so once it finishes indexing. this will also effect your battery life till it is completed.
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I used this app and it's worked wonders.
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This phone lags a lot especially in Chrome and other scrolling apps.. sometimes switching between apps takes lot of time too...I have been using Samsung phones for quite sometime, but unfortunately this is the phone lagging more than any other phone for me..debloated almost 150 apps, still the same..and it gets hot as well when watching videos...none of this happened for me on Note 5...I think Samsung screwed with Note7 software..when they initially released Grace UX software for Note 5, it was very smooth...but the final Note7 software seems to be laggy...the same apps and setup on Note5 doesn't give me these issues....gonna return and try my luck with new one...but good thing is battery life has been very good for me...easily 5hrs SOT whereas on Note5, I used to get only 3.5 hrs
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Having Lag & Heat Issues???
Is anyone having lag issue or any heat issues? I guess I have one of the problem notes as mine has extreme lag and heat problems. I have cleared all caches and have also factory reset several times. What's weird is that the lag will come and go, but it's there more often than not. Even scrolling in settings has the jitters.
Any ideas anyone. I might be better off going through the miserable process of exchanging through the mail.
Thanks in advance for any help!
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I am exactly facing this issue..I am a heavy XDA user, so I monitor all the apps on phone and debloated lot (around 150) apps...still the same.. thing is lag doesn't happen all the times..but it starts from no where..but the phone consistently gets hot while moderate usage
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When the phone is working properly, bloatware should make no noticeable difference and debloating is unnecessary.
My Note 7 usually responds instantly, with no lag, no matter how heavily I'm using it. That's with nothing disabled or debloated. (I'm using the Google Now launcher but everything else is stock/default, with no esoteric apps or settings.)
However, on three occasions in the week I've had the phone, it's gotten into a mode with serious lag while typing. In this mode, even though the characters I type still show up on the screen instantly, I can type 3 or 4 characters with no sound feedback or vibration feedback; then, there will be 3 or 4 delayed clicks and vibrations in rapid succession.
When this serious-lag mode starts, it continues even if I close all apps and put the phone in Airplane mode. It also makes no difference if I turn on power-saving mode, or even maximum power-saving. The only thing I've found that fixes it (for a while) is rebooting.
The intermittent occurrence of the serious-lag problem shows that it's not a matter of the phone being underpowered or overloaded. There's some specific bug that needs to be fixed.
UPDATE: It just happened for a fourth time. And when the serious-lag mode starts, it's not just typing that has a delay with audio feedback. The feedback delay also occurs when I tap on icons, tap on the Back or Recent-apps soft-buttons, etc. There's a delay of up to a second or two between tapping and hearing the feedback.
On the other hand, compute-intensive tasks--such as playing streaming video--work properly even when the phone is in serious-lag mode. So that's further evidence that there is some specific bug, and not a general problem of being underpowered or overloaded.
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When the phone is working properly, bloatware should make no noticeable difference and debloating is unnecessary.
My Note 7 usually responds instantly, with no lag, no matter how heavily I'm using it. That's with nothing disabled or debloated. (I'm using the Google Now launcher but everything else is stock/default, with no esoteric apps or settings.)
However, on three occasions in the week I've had the phone, it's gotten into a mode with serious lag while typing. In this mode, even though the characters I type still show up on the screen instantly, I can type 3 or 4 characters with no sound feedback or vibration feedback; then, there will be 3 or 4 delayed clicks and vibrations in rapid succession.
When this serious-lag mode starts, it continues even if I close all apps and put the phone in Airplane mode. It also makes no difference if I turn on power-saving mode, or even maximum power-saving. The only thing I've found that fixes it (for a while) is rebooting.
The intermittent occurrence of the serious-lag problem shows that it's not a matter of the phone being underpowered or overloaded. There's some specific bug that needs to be fixed.
UPDATE: It just happened for a fourth time. And when the serious-lag mode starts, it's not just typing that has a delay with audio feedback. The feedback delay also occurs when I tap on icons, tap on the Back or Recent-apps soft-buttons, etc. There's a delay of up to a second or two between tapping and hearing the feedback.
On the other hand, compute-intensive tasks--such as playing streaming video--work properly even when the phone is in serious-lag mode. So that's further evidence that there is some specific bug, and not a general problem of being underpowered or overloaded.
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Curious, do these typing lags occur on the hangouts app?!?! It seems to be the ONLY app on my Note 5 (and all the other phones I've used) that has a VERY NOTICEABLE KEYBOARD LAG, especially with Samsung Stock keyboard. This happens even with other keyboards, but is WORST with samsung keyboard.....
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Curious, do these typing lags occur on the hangouts app?!?! It seems to be the ONLY app on my Note 5 (and all the other phones I've used) that has a VERY NOTICEABLE KEYBOARD LAG, especially with Samsung Stock keyboard. This happens even with other keyboards, but is WORST with samsung keyboard.....
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No, the problem I'm seeing is unrelated to any app or keyboard. When my phone is in serious-lag mode, the problem occurs across the board. When it's not in lag-mode (which it usually isn't), then there's no lag in any app, including Hangouts.
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No, the problem I'm seeing is unrelated to any app or keyboard. When my phone is in serious-lag mode, the problem occurs across the board. When it's not in lag-mode (which it usually isn't), then there's no lag in any app, including Hangouts.
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Hmmm.....interesting....I use the app os monitor to show which processes are running at high cpu %. Perhaps that can shed some light on your lag issue?
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Hmmm.....interesting....I use the app os monitor to show which processes are running at high cpu %. Perhaps that can shed some light on your lag issue?
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It happens even with all apps closed, no heat, no battery drain. It's not a side-effect of the phone being bogged down with anything.

Android 10 stable UI lag

Hi,
I've noticed a UI lag when switching between apps or transitioning from an open app to home screen. This didn't happen in the Android 10 beta rom. Anybody have the same issue? I clean flashed the stable android 10.
I can confirm this issue in the stable release. But I would like to add that this lag was already in the beta release and is in my testing not app specific. I would clear the cache and make a reboot.
Go into developer options and disable the three animation types. Everything runs MUCH faster with them off.
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Go into developer options and disable the three animation types. Everything runs MUCH faster with them off.
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I have, and while it does suppress animations, it actually feels less polished. And anyway, it does not resolve the UI lag which is really visible when using th app switcher. It's dropping below like 10fps. As if some gfx acceleration was disabled or the phone was completely overwhelmed
Anyone found a fix? I experience the lag every once in a while, though it's prevalent enough to be annoying.
I am having this literally every time i use the alt-tab like feature. Oneplus managed to **** up the one thing (butter smooth) Google has been bragging about for several versions ???
A simple fix would be toh format device once, as I have clean flashed and I don't face any lags
Dissable ram boost in system settings
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Dissable ram boost in system settings
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I'm having random lag too. I'l try to disable RAM boost and is if it helps.
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Dissable ram boost in system settings
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doesn't change a thing. (and am wondering it would. This feature is supposed to make smoothness (even) better, not worse)
Turn off auto brightness .. maybe it can help
I have been reading up on the A10 stable release posts and I saw a lot of people mentioning the issue that you are talking about here.
Many of them suggested a full format. So basically setting up your device as a new device.
I cannot confirm if this works for everyone but a lot of people are saying that after a fresh install they are not facing any issues.
All of the points mentioned above are just what I read from xda and op forum posts. I personally have not made the switch yet and probably wont be doing so soon.
Hey guys. I encountered the same problem on my Nokia 9. Not quite sure why this error doesn't get noticed by more people.
I think I fixed it for me though.
In my case it seemed that the OLED always on screen (which shows notifications and the time) was the problem in my case. It would always show that there are notifications even if there weren't any and that started adding up. So while the rest of my phone ran buttery smooth, the notification bar and lockscreen began looking like a Diashow. 2-5 fps sometimes. What I think is happening is that all these notifications are buggy and the always on screen can't get rid of them.
So my fix was turning that off and then restarting my phone. Since that everything runs smooth again.
If there is another thread I should post this to please tell me but I only found this one.
Hope it helped.
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Hey guys. I encountered the same problem on my Nokia 9. Not quite sure why this error doesn't get noticed by more people.
I think I fixed it for me though.
In my case it seemed that the OLED always on screen (which shows notifications and the time) was the problem in my case. It would always show that there are notifications even if there weren't any and that started adding up. So while the rest of my phone ran buttery smooth, the notification bar and lockscreen began looking like a Diashow. 2-5 fps sometimes. What I think is happening is that all these notifications are buggy and the always on screen can't get rid of them.
So my fix was turning that off and then restarting my phone. Since that everything runs smooth again.
If there is another thread I should post this to please tell me but I only found this one.
Hope it helped.
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I think the issue is just : it's a ****show of awful coding, optimisation and non-existent testing. If manufacturers' programmers put in half the effort debugging their software we as "powerusers" at xda/reddit/... put twisting our brains in and out trying find correlating explanations and workarounds as to why we get UI lags or other absurd bugs (like 5GHz wifi not working anymore) on the 10th ****ing iteration of Android, we wouldn't have all of this. It all boils down to the general idea that because it is consumer grade product, quality check is just a non-subject. Apparent quality is just enough at product launch, and further updates (if they do get round to releasing them) can brake everything without manufacturers being held accountable.
The update showed up on my phone on the 25th, but, I'm NOT updating. 9 is too damn stable for me, & I don't see any "features" in 10 that will benefit me.
After reading all this i am not going to update to 10. Yet happy with 9.17.
Tmob unbranded dual sim op6t.
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I have the OnePlus 6, and have similar issues, that include swapping apps being slow, but not just the swapping of apps, any app that has typing in it, seems to DIE when I start typing. Maybe this is a google keyboard issue or something? I notice the issue most in the Microsoft Teams mobile app. It also tends to only happen when at least 2 apps are open, if it's on it's own, it seems to do fine.
This might just be coincidence but I went into dev settings and turned on "strict mode" and now I can't get it to lag like it previously did.
I just looked at my running services (dev options > running services) and saw that my Bluetooth was using 2.2GB of ram, and youtube was 1.7GB of that. I toggled bluetooth off, then back on and it reset this. I have not modified the strict mode setting above... still have not had any lag, will update this thread if I do get more lag.
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I think the issue is just : it's a ****show of awful coding, optimisation and non-existent testing. If manufacturers' programmers put in half the effort debugging their software we as "powerusers" at xda/reddit/... put twisting our brains in and out trying find correlating explanations and workarounds as to why we get UI lags or other absurd bugs (like 5GHz wifi not working anymore) on the 10th ****ing iteration of Android, we wouldn't have all of this. It all boils down to the general idea that because it is consumer grade product, quality check is just a non-subject. Apparent quality is just enough at product launch, and further updates (if they do get round to releasing them) can brake everything without manufacturers being held accountable.
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Lagging issue I've seen many reporting in xda on the stock rom OOS 10.3.0. But 5GHz is working as expected. I can confirm it because I'm using 5GHz WiFI now and then
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I have the OnePlus 6, and have similar issues, that include swapping apps being slow, but not just the swapping of apps, any app that has typing in it, seems to DIE when I start typing. Maybe this is a google keyboard issue or something? I notice the issue most in the Microsoft Teams mobile app. It also tends to only happen when at least 2 apps are open, if it's on it's own, it seems to do fine.
This might just be coincidence but I went into dev settings and turned on "strict mode" and now I can't get it to lag like it previously did.
I just looked at my running services (dev options > running services) and saw that my Bluetooth was using 2.2GB of ram, and youtube was 1.7GB of that. I toggled bluetooth off, then back on and it reset this. I have not modified the strict mode setting above... still have not had any lag, will update this thread if I do get more lag.
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After a night/day of normal testing with this, where I would normally have issues, I have not had and of the lag I mentioned above. This seems to have fixed some things. So, I would suggest that you first check to see what running processes are using all the ram, and then turn on strict mode in dev settings, if that doesn't solve your issues. I also have Ram Boost option turned off.
I experience the FPS drop quite often after the update. It's especially noticable when scrolling pages, switching between apps, pulling down the upper panel. The slowness seems to disappear temporarily after closing all apps. But I can't say that some particular app causes the lag.
UPD: A simple test to recreate the problem. I push the square button to switch between apps. Start swiping finger left-right and watch the animation smoothness. After 5-10 seconds comes the wave of low FPS, which lasts for a couple of seconds. Then the process repeats. The slowness doesn't seem to depend on some exact apps that are open.
UPD2: Well, I've just found out that the problem isn't constant throughout the day. There must be some connection to applications running in the background or something like this.

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