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I am currently running MJE, stock ROM, rooted, safestrap installed. I assume my best route is to uninstall Safestrap, unroot, take the NC4 OTA, and then re-root and install Safestrap. Or should I keep it like it is and flash NC2 and avoid any OTAs?
I think I just answered my own question. I see that NC4 cannot be rooted yet. Think I'll just stick with what I have for now and wait on a root method.
BigShowJoe said:
I am currently running MJE, stock ROM, rooted, safestrap installed. I assume my best route is to uninstall Safestrap, unroot, take the NC4 OTA, and then re-root and install Safestrap. Or should I keep it like it is and flash NC2 and avoid any OTAs?
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NOOOOOO. Do not do that. If you take the OTA update you will be in a bad place.
All info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52116851
Once you are on the leaked NC2, you can install the NC4 modem if you want; however myself and many others are finding better connection and speeds with the MJE modem. You can flash MJE/NC2/NC4 modems interchangeably in ODIN once you are on NC2.
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BigShowJoe said:
I think I just answered my own question. I see that NC4 cannot be rooted yet. Think I'll just stick with what I have for now and wait on a root method.
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There is no reason to wait for a root method. The NC2 leak can be flashed with NC4 modem and recovery, and you can run any of the 4.4.2 ROMs on it. In addition, if you waited for NC4 to be rooted and did the OTA update, you'd still lose the ability to downgrade to MJE and other flashing options that only the leaked NC2 allows.
bigillz said:
NOOOOOO. Do not do that. If you take the OTA update you will be in a bad place.
All info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52116851
Once you are on the leaked NC2, you can install the NC4 modem if you want; however myself and many others are finding better connection and speeds with the MJE modem. You can flash MJE/NC2/NC4 modems interchangeably in ODIN once you are on NC2.
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There is no reason to wait for a root method. The NC2 leak can be flashed with NC4 modem and recovery, and you can run any of the 4.4.2 ROMs on it. In addition, if you waited for NC4 to be rooted and did the OTA update, you'd still lose the ability to downgrade to MJE and other flashing options that only the leaked NC2 allows.
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Good points. Thanks.
BigShowJoe said:
I am currently running MJE, stock ROM, rooted, safestrap installed. I assume my best route is to uninstall Safestrap, unroot, take the NC4 OTA, and then re-root and install Safestrap. Or should I keep it like it is and flash NC2 and avoid any OTAs?
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If you take the NC4 OTA, your bootloader will be incremented with a special counter that's read in Odin/Download Mode. NC2 does not increment this counter, allowing you to downgrade to 4.3 if need be. NC2 also has kernel modules enabled, which is pretty rare.
Thanks for the info guys. Can someone point me to the Odin download and instructions on flashing firmware?
BigShowJoe said:
Thanks for the info guys. Can someone point me to the Odin download and instructions on flashing firmware?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2740466
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
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Quick question: I did the NC2 leak and running bigginsRom v3, I then flashed the NC4 radio which works great. Do I have to odin back to NC2 radio before flashing bigginsRom V4?
No. The rom doesn't care what modem you are ruinning. I am still on Eclipse 4.3 and I have updated to the NC4 modem.
hecksagon said:
No. The rom doesn't care what modem you are ruinning. I am still on Eclipse 4.3 and I have updated to the NC4 modem.
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Thanks for the clarifying:good:
I have an SGH-i337 and had an MDL bootloader before moving to Cyanogenmod and then moved on to OC3 bootloader (stock Android 5.0.1). With OC3 bootloader, I did some google search but couldn't find a way to get a custom bootloader as well as root so I can flash into another ROM (the last time I did any unlocking, flashing, and rooting was ~ 2 years ago and methods/tools have changed so I'm not sure what my best options are right now). I read that TWRP doesn't work for newer bootloaders such as OC3 because loki is patched. Any advice/guidance will be much appreciated.
Thank you!
Safestrap is going to be your only option I believe
On MDL, the boot loader could be by-passed with loki, but everything since MDL, including OC3 has a locked bootloader and you are limited to stock kernel. Safestrap allows custom roms that are touchwiz based but no AOSP type roms. Also safestrap only works on 4.4.4 and below, not on 5.0.1. No root method has been discovered or posted for stock 5.0.1, but there is a keeproot upgrade method, so if you want to root, flash back to nb1, and then use the keeproot method.
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On MDL, the boot loader could be by-passed with loki, but everything since MDL, including OC3 has a locked bootloader and you are limited to stock kernel. Safestrap allows custom roms that are touchwiz based but no AOSP type roms. Also safestrap only works on 4.4.4 and below, not on 5.0.1. No root method has been discovered or posted for stock 5.0.1, but there is a keeproot upgrade method, so if you want to root, flash back to nb1, and then use the keeproot method.
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So even if I flash back to nb1, I can only root it and not be able to flash to either Google Edition or Cyanogenmod (both if which are my ideal ROMs)? Could I not flash back to MDL, unlock the bootloader + root it, then flash to either of these two ROMs?
No now they have nc1 flash for 5.0.1 look at the i337 thread in xda
So I am essentially stuck with the stock AT&T Touchwiz ROM forever unless something like SafeStrap is available for OC3 bootloader? I'd do anything for being able to flash to Cyanogenmod or Google Play Edition--can't believe I flashed to an updated stock ROM by accident and now I lose all ability to flash to a custom ROM...
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So I am essentially stuck with the stock AT&T Touchwiz ROM forever unless something like SafeStrap is available for OC3 bootloader? I'd do anything for being able to flash to Cyanogenmod or Google Play Edition--can't believe I flashed to an updated stock ROM by accident and now I lose all ability to flash to a custom ROM...
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Yeah, it sucks and I feel your pain. But you are essentially correct. If you want to stay on Lollipop, then that's pretty much it.
You could flash back to nb1, root and install Safestrap, update to nj4, or install a custom TW based rom on 4.4.4.
You could flash back to nb1, root and use the keeproot method back to OC3, and then at least you'd have rooted Lollipop.
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Yeah, it sucks and I feel your pain. But you are essentially correct. If you want to stay on Lollipop, then that's pretty much it.
You could flash back to nb1, root and install Safestrap, update to nj4, or install a custom TW based rom on 4.4.4.
You could flash back to nb1, root and use the keeproot method back to OC3, and then at least you'd have rooted Lollipop.
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Thanks for the clarification--I'll check periodically to see if anything is available for OC3/NB1.
The only GPE ROM I've seen work on this phone is the dandvh 4.4.4 one and even then a few things were buggy. Though I enjoyed it.
iB4stid posted goldeneye v53 which is 5.0.1 for our phone which is pre-rooted and deodexed . It's still TouchWiz based, but with it being pre-rooted and deodexed you can use arter97's workaround and get Xposed working!
And lastly, you can use safestrap while on OC3, You just have to flash an Nj4 kernel in Odin, boot to safestrap, perform your actions, and then flash OC3 kernel back so lollipop will boot.
There are instructions for it on here somewhere. I would check in the "general" section. Sorry for not linking it, I'm on mobile.
Trying to use the keeproot method to get from NB1 (rooted) to OC3 (rooted). Problem is I can flash the ROM, but i need to Odin the OC3 bootloader after the ROM is flashed but I cannot find the OC3 bootloader for the life of me, I can only find the newer OK2 bootloader. Please help! Trying to at least get to Goldeneye on my I337!!
Don't tell me to just use the OK2 ROM and bootloader because when I used that to upgrade to Goldeneye I actually lost root access and had to go all the way back to NB1 and that's where I am now. Can I use OC3 Rom with OK2 bootloader??? God it seems like no one cares about I337s, the step-by-step guides are all over the place and quite hard to follow but I know where I'm getting tripped up. Please help!
Hi Friends,
I am currently on rooted NK7 which i did I guess around an year back.
I know I am stuck on Kitkat and may have been missing a few important security updates (stagefright for sure I guess).
The main reason I am still stuck with KK is I just love Xposed, particularly xprivacy... can't live without that.
I am trying to go to all the current threads but its a bit confusion on trying to figure out what the latest ROM I can upgrade to that will allow me to keep using Xposed f/w.
I have safestrap installed on my S5 and I guess that is how I rooted back then.
Could someone take a few mins to help me provide instructions on how to do that?
TIA.
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Hi Friends,
I am currently on rooted NK7 which i did I guess around an year back.
I know I am stuck on Kitkat and may have been missing a few important security updates (stagefright for sure I guess).
The main reason I am still stuck with KK is I just love Xposed, particularly xprivacy... can't live without that.
I am trying to go to all the current threads but its a bit confusion on trying to figure out what the latest ROM I can upgrade to that will allow me to keep using Xposed f/w.
I have safestrap installed on my S5 and I guess that is how I rooted back then.
Could someone take a few mins to help me provide instructions on how to do that?
TIA
This Thread is in the General forum. Read this and I believe it'll help guide you through of what you're looking for.
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This Thread is in the General forum. Read this and I believe it'll help guide you through of what you're looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/veri...build-t3296077
There's a SafeStrap that works with Lollipop, but not directly. You need to flash a Kitkat kernel in order to boot into Safestrap from Lollipop, then flash the Lollipop kernel from within SafeStrap in order to boot back into Lollipop. It makes more sense when you do it.
You should be able to use Xposed with any de-odexed ROM, but it can have slightly unpredictable results.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-verizon-s5-nk7-build-t3296077
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This Thread is in the General forum. Read this and I believe it'll help guide you through of what you're looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/veri...build-t3296077
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Thanks al50 for the link, but wanted to say again that I am already rooted and on NK7.
I am trying to find steps to move to Lollipop from NK7.
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There's a SafeStrap that works with Lollipop, but not directly. You need to flash a Kitkat kernel in order to boot into Safestrap from Lollipop, then flash the Lollipop kernel from within SafeStrap in order to boot back into Lollipop. It makes more sense when you do it.
You should be able to use Xposed with any de-odexed ROM, but it can have slightly unpredictable results.
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Given that I am on NK7 I assume I am already on Kitkat kernel, is that right?
So, I guess here is what you are saying:
1. Go into safestrap and flash Lollipop kernel (from jkruse's thread I guess?)
2. Once kernel is flashed, reboot back into safestrap and then install one of the firmwares listed on the same post?
I guess step 0. would have been to download and save the kernel and firmware files on my sd card to be used in safestrap.
Also, if I am already rooted on NK7, can I jump to any of the kernels/firmwares (roms?) in the list of I have to step through them?
TIA
androidjim said:
Thanks al50 for the link, but wanted to say again that I am already rooted and on NK7.
I am trying to find steps to move to Lollipop from NK7.
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My apologies. Misread your post. Basically you do what's in the links to get back to NCG and (what I've done) is flash one of Muniz_ri 'How to Upgrade' ROM'S and go from there. Once I flashed back to NCG and enabled Root and had a GPS lock, i then flashed his (Muniz_ri) OC4 ROM and I've been on ROM's since and with Xposed. ..
You're already rooted on NK7, so you have two options since there is now a root method for Lollipop.
You can either do the NCG "keep root" upgrade method that al50 is referring to, or you can just jump right to BOK3 and use the new root method.
Personally, I might be inclined to go the safer route and try the "keep root" method first: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...w-to-update-to-g900voe1-5-0-keeproot-t3149784
If you decide to use the new method, you're going to have to use Odin software on your computer to flash the entire BOK3 image from scratch. If you don't start with a fresh install, the root process is less likely to succeed for some re.ason.
I am still on NK7 myself. I am opting to flash the BOK3 image that still has the BOD5 bootloader, because BOD5 is the last version that is able to be downgraded back to kitkat. This is not necessary, but I am averse to burning bridges. If you'd like to go this route, download the full image from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/g900vvru2bog5-factoryodintarimage-t3179527
If not, just download the BOK3 full factory image. Regardless, read jrkruse's thread on the new boot method carefully and thoroughly before you start: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-method-og5-ok3-t3290370
And no matter what, if you flash a BOE1, BOG5, or BOK3 bootloader, do not under any circumstances attempt to flash an older bootloader over it or you will brick.
i have rooted OC4 installed on my phone and have i've been reading up on OCTos and their 6.0.1 custom firmware (found a good link too: http://www.teamandroid.com/2016/01/20/update-att-galaxy-s4-i337-android-601-octos-marshmallow-custom-rom/ ) . and now am more confused.
it should be simple from what i am reading.
1) backup everything
2) revert to 4.3 (mk2), root, and install ClockworkMod 10.2+
3) install custom rom 6.0.1 OCTos
however, i'm reading on this page (http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/guide-odin-to-stock-updating-rooting-t2926642) but it states >> Once you flash NB1, you CANNOT go back to MK2. <<
So now I'm trying to figure out exactly how i can get the OCTos onto my phone. what guide should i follow !?!?!?!
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They meant the MK2 boot loader based devices, same with MDL. Aside from a few exploited boot loaders.. it's been the general consensus that they're all locked up, therefore.. only stock roms. The lowest boot loader you can possibly be on is NB1. Download "Terminal Emulator" for the Play Store and then when you open it up, type the following:
getprop ro.bootloader
^ exactly like that, then see what it says. The last three characters (MDK, MDL, MK2, NB1, NC1, OC3, OC4)--that's how you can figure out which boot loader you are using. I am on NB1's bootloader but I can still downgrade to MK2, i.e. Android 4.3, and still have it work.. only because of how the roms in these threads are rooted and the fact that they're stock, aside from a few other small details. When they say OC3 or MK2, or NB1... whichever.. then typically they mean the boot loader when saying you cannot revert. Definitely cannot revert to MK2 bootloader after taking an OTA update.
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egiblock said:
i have rooted OC4 installed on my phone and have i've been reading up on OCTos and their 6.0.1 custom firmware (found a good link too: http://www.teamandroid.com/2016/01/20/update-att-galaxy-s4-i337-android-601-octos-marshmallow-custom-rom/ ) . and now am more confused.
it should be simple from what i am reading.
1) backup everything
2) revert to 4.3 (mk2), root, and install ClockworkMod 10.2+
3) install custom rom 6.0.1 OCTos
however, i'm reading on this page (http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/guide-odin-to-stock-updating-rooting-t2926642) but it states >> Once you flash NB1, you CANNOT go back to MK2. <<
So now I'm trying to figure out exactly how i can get the OCTos onto my phone. what guide should i follow !?!?!?!
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Even though it was not mentioned, the article appears to be written for the SGH-i337 with old bootloaders (MDB, MDL). These are the only two bootloaders that can be exploited and installed the custom recovery like CWM or TWRP.
Since your bootloader is OC4 you can not install the CWM or TWRP. You could try flashing with safestrap though. If that custom rom is not written with Aroma then you could also try to flash with flashfire. These are the only two options for you.
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Okay, yeah.. you're not on MDK or MDL, not even NB1.. you're simply on OC4. You aren't going to be able to do any flashing of any Custom Roms that are not Safestrap compatible (touchwiz)
Good luck.. you can't go anywhere backwards, not even OC3. That really sucks. I'm sorry. It looks like you took the OTA's.
I can still ODIN to NB1 and that was because I never took the OTA update. I got lucky.. I can still choose between kitkat and lollipop. You can't. You might be able to with someone's help.. but your bootloader is OC4.. that's a problem. You more than likely will have trouble doing anything unless it's not MDK/MDL or even NB1 based.
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Even though it was not mentioned, the article appears to be written for the SGH-i337 with old bootloaders (MDB, MDL). These are the only two bootloaders that can be exploited and installed the custom recovery like CWM or TWRP.
Since your bootloader is OC4 you can not install the CWM or TWRP. You could try flashing with safestrap though. If that custom rom is not written with Aroma then you could also try to flash with flashfire. These are the only two options for you.
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Yeah.. You might have a shot with FlashFire. I might test that via the NB1 bootloader that I'm on but I don't think it matters that much aside from being able to Odin back to 4.3 software.
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Even though it was not mentioned, the article appears to be written for the SGH-i337 with old bootloaders (MDB, MDL). These are the only two bootloaders that can be exploited and installed the custom recovery like CWM or TWRP.
Since your bootloader is OC4 you can not install the CWM or TWRP. You could try flashing with safestrap though. If that custom rom is not written with Aroma then you could also try to flash with flashfire. These are the only two options for you.
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FlashFire came out with another release (0.32) that seems to have an AROMA emulation option.. my guess is that it's still in testing, but it's worth a shot even without it. The way I have OC3 with the NB1 boot loader is because of FlashFire.. Safestrap.. it's been awhile since I've used it. I've tried recently for other ROMS but you can't do a custom kernel.. that's the reason most custom roms aren't able to work, i.e. CM v13 runs a totally different kernel. It's not just TouchWiz now.. now it's just stock kernels.. at least via SafeStrap. So far I've gotten none to work with SafeStrap aside from Stock rooted roms. OC3, OC4, and if I felt like it, OK2.. but why even bother with OK2, I'm not gonna see any difference given all of the patches you can use with Xposed.. including any memory leak bull****, that's all good now in 5.0.x -- 5.1+ has that patched up.. and OK2 certainly isn't 5.1. I don't see any difference between OC3 and OC4.. and if my opinion counts for anything.. the one thing that I noticed (bloatware script ran and other apps not needed were frozen for both) is a very high amount of battery usage with OC4.. same userdata, same everything.. and when you flash the kernel, the modules, and move up to OC4.. it's still the same looking.. feels the same.. more ram used.. OC3 is superior in this instance. I'd love to try and give an AOSP rom a shot.. but.. via SafeStrap (someone made a guide for those not on the MDK or MDL boot loaders) .. eh.. no luck. That was all via SafeStrap. I'm just putting in my two cents. I think development for this phone is finished.. no one has come out with anything new aside from the SafeStrap kernel workarounds.. not many FlashFire users.. and the one that used to find every single exploit is now EMPLOYED by Samsung so his development.. gone. That was a huge kick in the ass to this entire community. Plenty of people around, just.. they don't give a **** about the S4 with boot loader all locked up. NB1 was an accident for me.. I was on MDL for a long, long time.. I really ****ed that up or I'd be running MarshMallow already It seems to run best with KitKat, but a lot of AOSP roms have shown huge differences in MarshMallow.. oh well. Can't try it at the moment.
Unfortunately I can't remember what I did in the past to this phone, but I have never had luck with OTA updates. I'll have to see if I can find my note to see what I originally did on this stupid thing.
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Unfortunately I can't remember what I did in the past to this phone, but I have never had luck with OTA updates. I'll have to see if I can find my note to see what I originally did on this stupid thing.
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Since you are on OC4, the lowest you can go is NB1 (kit-kat).
How exactly do I go at getting a recovery now? I've tried installing twrp ,cwm, philz, and safestrap. The I337 I've heard has a locked bootloader though I find this hard to believe for all the custom ROMs. I heard others often experience "System software not authorized by ATT has been found on your phone". Help would not be taken for granted.
If the phone is running a 4.3 or newer bootloader, the bootloader is locked and can only use safestrap to flash custom ROMs.
There are many custom ROMs (there are different versions of the s4 and some of these custom ROMs may be unified builds for the 9505, 9515, i337m, etc.) but only those custom ROMs that can be flashed with safestrap can be flashed to an AT&T s4 with a locked bootloader.
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How exactly do I go at getting a recovery now? I've tried installing twrp ,cwm, philz, and safestrap. The I337 I've heard has a locked bootloader though I find this hard to believe for all the custom ROMs. I heard others often experience "System software not authorized by ATT has been found on your phone". Help would not be taken for granted.
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If you're on Android 4.3 or higher then you can only use safe strap and boot touch wiz roms as your bootloader is locked and patched. If you're on Android 4.2.2 or below, you can install TWRP and boot other custom roms like AOSP and Cyanogen mod as the bootloader is locked, but not patched and can take advantage of the loki doki exploit to bypass the lock.
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If you're on Android 4.3 or higher then you can only use safe strap and boot touch wiz roms as your bootloader is locked and patched. If you're on Android 4.2.2 or below, you can install TWRP and boot other custom roms like AOSP and Cyanogen mod as the bootloader is locked, but not patched and can take advantage of the loki doki exploit to bypass the lock.
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I have 2 phones. One 4.2.2 another 5.0.1. Is there a way I can update with twrp or another custom bootloader and then update to 5.0.1 (not through OTA). Which one should I use? Thank you.
There is no such thing as a custom bootloader for the att s4.
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There is no such thing as a custom bootloader for the att s4.
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I'm still somewhat interested, even with safestrap. The bootloader cannot be unlocked. OTA update wouldn't be possible as it checks the recovery. I'm interested in ROMs and nandroids.
SomeOrdinaryGamr said:
I have 2 phones. One 4.2.2 another 5.0.1. Is there a way I can update with twrp or another custom bootloader and then update to 5.0.1 (not through OTA). Which one should I use? Thank you.
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Is your 5.0.1 one on the OC2 bootloader? It then can only boot touch wiz roms. Golden eye rom and thor rom are good and both can be booted in safe strap which is the only recovery it can use. Your 4.2.2 phone is on the MDL bootloader right? If so use towel root to root it if not already root then install loki doki then install TWRP. After that pick a kernel and boot whatever rom you want...touch wiz, CM, AOSP, etc.
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I'm still somewhat interested, even with safestrap. The bootloader cannot be unlocked. OTA update wouldn't be possible as it checks the recovery. I'm interested in ROMs and nandroids.
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The bootloader lock can only be bypassed with the loki doki tool on the MDL and MDB firmwares. If you're on any other firmware then you're stuck with using safe srap as the bypass exploit was patched in the MK3 bootloader OTA update I believe.