I am currently running MJE, stock ROM, rooted, safestrap installed. I assume my best route is to uninstall Safestrap, unroot, take the NC4 OTA, and then re-root and install Safestrap. Or should I keep it like it is and flash NC2 and avoid any OTAs?
I think I just answered my own question. I see that NC4 cannot be rooted yet. Think I'll just stick with what I have for now and wait on a root method.
BigShowJoe said:
I am currently running MJE, stock ROM, rooted, safestrap installed. I assume my best route is to uninstall Safestrap, unroot, take the NC4 OTA, and then re-root and install Safestrap. Or should I keep it like it is and flash NC2 and avoid any OTAs?
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NOOOOOO. Do not do that. If you take the OTA update you will be in a bad place.
All info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52116851
Once you are on the leaked NC2, you can install the NC4 modem if you want; however myself and many others are finding better connection and speeds with the MJE modem. You can flash MJE/NC2/NC4 modems interchangeably in ODIN once you are on NC2.
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BigShowJoe said:
I think I just answered my own question. I see that NC4 cannot be rooted yet. Think I'll just stick with what I have for now and wait on a root method.
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There is no reason to wait for a root method. The NC2 leak can be flashed with NC4 modem and recovery, and you can run any of the 4.4.2 ROMs on it. In addition, if you waited for NC4 to be rooted and did the OTA update, you'd still lose the ability to downgrade to MJE and other flashing options that only the leaked NC2 allows.
bigillz said:
NOOOOOO. Do not do that. If you take the OTA update you will be in a bad place.
All info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52116851
Once you are on the leaked NC2, you can install the NC4 modem if you want; however myself and many others are finding better connection and speeds with the MJE modem. You can flash MJE/NC2/NC4 modems interchangeably in ODIN once you are on NC2.
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There is no reason to wait for a root method. The NC2 leak can be flashed with NC4 modem and recovery, and you can run any of the 4.4.2 ROMs on it. In addition, if you waited for NC4 to be rooted and did the OTA update, you'd still lose the ability to downgrade to MJE and other flashing options that only the leaked NC2 allows.
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Good points. Thanks.
BigShowJoe said:
I am currently running MJE, stock ROM, rooted, safestrap installed. I assume my best route is to uninstall Safestrap, unroot, take the NC4 OTA, and then re-root and install Safestrap. Or should I keep it like it is and flash NC2 and avoid any OTAs?
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If you take the NC4 OTA, your bootloader will be incremented with a special counter that's read in Odin/Download Mode. NC2 does not increment this counter, allowing you to downgrade to 4.3 if need be. NC2 also has kernel modules enabled, which is pretty rare.
Thanks for the info guys. Can someone point me to the Odin download and instructions on flashing firmware?
BigShowJoe said:
Thanks for the info guys. Can someone point me to the Odin download and instructions on flashing firmware?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2740466
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
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Quick question: I did the NC2 leak and running bigginsRom v3, I then flashed the NC4 radio which works great. Do I have to odin back to NC2 radio before flashing bigginsRom V4?
No. The rom doesn't care what modem you are ruinning. I am still on Eclipse 4.3 and I have updated to the NC4 modem.
hecksagon said:
No. The rom doesn't care what modem you are ruinning. I am still on Eclipse 4.3 and I have updated to the NC4 modem.
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Thanks for the clarifying:good:
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Hi, already rooted, and have been running cleanrom on my MJ7 N3 for awhile now, and I see that many of the newer roms require MJE.
What would be the easist way to update to MJE, and could I just flash a MJE rom anyways?
(also I have deleted the stock rom for more space, worst case I'll odin back to stock, just wondering if there is a faster way than going back to stock, updating, then installing another custom rom.)
brex91 said:
Hi, already rooted, and have been running cleanrom on my MJ7 N3 for awhile now, and I see that many of the newer roms require MJE.
What would be the easist way to update to MJE, and could I just flash a MJE rom anyways?
(also I have deleted the stock rom for more space, worst case I'll odin back to stock, just wondering if there is a faster way than going back to stock, updating, then installing another custom rom.)
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You CAN flash MJE roms but you'll likely have wifi and signal issues. SOme have done it and worked around the issues.
Use Odin to flash MJE tar is best way to get to MJE. If Kingo is still slow, use Vroot.
For any help or links, check Note 3 link in my sig
OTA Survival?
az_biker said:
You CAN flash MJE roms but you'll likely have wifi and signal issues. SOme have done it and worked around the issues.
Use Odin to flash MJE tar is best way to get to MJE. If Kingo is still slow, use Vroot.
For any help or links, check Note 3 link in my sig
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Using paid version of SuperSU 1.93, (updated binaries) will it survive OTA? from MJ7 to MJE?
Mr. HQ said:
Using paid version of SuperSU 1.93, (updated binaries) will it survive OTA? from MJ7 to MJE?
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The results are kinda split on this. Some have said they survived OTA and many have said they lost root and had to Odin MJE anyway.
I usually tell folks to just Odin MJE and that way you only have to flash MJE ONCE
I want to clean up my phone and get the NC4 firmware and get the new root method and install Eclipse.
Anyone provide the fir.ware for me please.
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scoreboard said:
I want to clean up my phone and get the NC4 firmware and get the new root method and install Eclipse.
Anyone provide the fir.ware for me please.
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Eclipse is NC2 not NC4.. Just install the nc2 leak.
scoreboard said:
I want to clean up my phone and get the NC4 firmware and get the new root method and install Eclipse.
Anyone provide the fir.ware for me please.
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This should be in the Q and A/Troubleshooting section, just for future reference.
Still need that Stock NC4 firmware tar.
Tried to flash NC2 over NC4, softbricked now :/
Upon booting says to use Software Repair Assistant from Verizon, can't get into recovery, can't get into SafeStrap, only Download / Odin mode.
Because once your on the nc4 ota, you cannot go back.
Firmware
http://samsung-updates.com/latest-firmware/
《 #VerizonLovesYou 》
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23487008491963309 don't use unless you were already on nc4. Otherwise use nc2.
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I was on the nc4 ota, rooted this morning with the new method, but have had no luck installing eclipse yet.
about to try another rom, and see if it takes but for the time being I have root, just can't install a rom
ROB281 said:
I was on the nc4 ota, rooted this morning with the new method, but have had no luck installing eclipse yet.
about to try another rom, and see if it takes but for the time being I have root, just can't install a rom
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it's a weird quirk with the firmware. nc4 firmware/bootloader can only have nc4 based roms flashed over it. I believe Jasmine rom in dev section has a beta release you might be able to use...
《 #VerizonLovesYou 》
I'm guessing there's still no way to downgrade to NC2 is there?
ROB281 said:
I'm guessing there's still no way to downgrade to NC2 is there?
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Call verizon and get a replacement with mje on it is the only way I've seen. Lol. Some note 3 have signal issues.....
TaPpEd from my XpOsEd 4.4.2 NIII
Official Stock 4.4.2 Kitkat NC4 Firmware...
Zip file (1.6 GB):
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=29319 and http://rapidgator.net/file/d6f6780043f87044b413b3e0704909c6
OR
Extracted Tar File (2.3 GB):
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23487008491963309
ROB281 said:
I was on the nc4 ota, rooted this morning with the new method, but have had no luck installing eclipse yet.
about to try another rom, and see if it takes but for the time being I have root, just can't install a rom
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Well if u have NC4 OTA then i think you can flash the leaked NC2 kernel in ODIN, install safestrap and then can flash Eclipse because Eclipse ROM will run on NC2 kernel not NC4 kernel...
Dear XDA guys, I am trying to Flash a Rom on my Verizon Note 3, I am on android 4.4.2, Model:SM-N900V, baseband version: N900VVRUCNC4 and I need to use Odin 3, the problem I am having is when I try to flash this firmware >>>- MJE tar file>> ( ALL_N900VVRUBMJE_N900VVZWMJE_2106277_REV03_user_lo w_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5.7z ) Odin does NOT see the firmware tar file when the PC is browsed and the file that it is installed in is opened, Odin will see other files , but not the MJE tar file, I even opened it with 7 zip and Odin still does not see it , also Safe strap 3.72 will not install every time I open the app up nothing but a blank screen shows up and I tried to root with towelroot, it didnt work is there any way to root this device so that I can flash back to android 4.3 ?, can you give me some advice on what I should do or what I am doing wrong , here are the instructions that I am going by >>>>http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...8#post48627708. Thank You in advance and I appreciate your time :*)
You need to unzip it. Its in 7Zip format.
If I am correct, you can not downgrade back to MJE if you are already on NC4. NC2 would be the KK release you can downgrade back to MJE. I believe you are out of luck with trying the MJE TAR.
MadFlava said:
You need to unzip it. Its in 7Zip format.
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Thank you
Kneebs said:
If I am correct, you can not downgrade back to MJE if you are already on NC4. NC2 would be the KK release you can downgrade back to MJE. I believe you are out of luck with trying the MJE TAR.
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Thank You for the advice, So your saying try to flash the NC2 KK release instead of the MJR TAR ? would you happen to know where I could get the NC2 KK for the note 3 ?
wilspeak said:
Thank You for the advice, So your saying try to flash the NC2 KK release instead of the MJR TAR ? would you happen to know where I could get the NC2 KK for the note 3 ?
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No. Unfortunately once you are on NC4 you can not even downgrade to a prior KK release. You and NC4 have tp become friends. The only way to downgrade now is by having Verizon ship you a new phone on MJE still.
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wilspeak said:
Thank You for the advice, So your saying try to flash the NC2 KK release instead of the MJR TAR ? would you happen to know where I could get the NC2 KK for the note 3 ?
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No. Unfortunately once you are on NC4 you can not even downgrade to a prior KK release. You and NC4 have tp become friends. The only way to downgrade now is by having Verizon ship you a new phone on MJE still.
I just migrated from a galaxy S3, my phone took the update that basically locks the boot loader while i was sleeping. Very unfair. So now I'm weary of what i can possibly do with my phone. So I have a note 3 on 4.4.2 waiting to be rooted. I did some research, found a few options but i want assurance that it is safe and possible. Has anyone been able to root the device (verizon) and put a rom on it? I believe towelroot is my best bet. Also what does NC4 and NC2 stand for? Thanks!
You have a lot of reading to do. Nc4&2 refer to build numbers, kernels, modems. Could be a lot of things...read carefully. Next search towel root. Then search safe strap. Read everything that Google shows you about those things. Then start testing what you feel comfortable flashing. Report back with questions
Here you go I'll make it alittle easier for you.
Root NC4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784009 by @droidguy22
Odin help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2576104 by @az_biker
Root NC4 and setup to flash roms : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787627 by @BeansTown106
Safestrap : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610 by @Hashcode
Modems : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524572 by @BeansTown106
NC2 was a leak we got before the NC4 OTA, the NC2 left us a few loopholes that NC4 didn't. People who took the NC2 leak can odin all the way back to MJE 4.3 if we like. If you took the NC4 OTA you're stuck on NC4. Just because you're on NC4 doesn't mean you have to stick with that modem if your signal is awful. It all depends on where you are, etc. I'm on the NC2 leak but that modem was terrible for me so I flashed the NC4 modem. Some users are on NC4/NC2 and using the MJE modem and others are on NC2 modem. You have to try them out for yourself but if your signal is fine then don't worry about it. Just read, read and read again. Take your time and follow all instructions and you'll be fine. Happy rooting and flashing roms.
^^^op be sure to hit thanks on his post^^^
thegamerdarkseid said:
Here you go I'll make it alittle easier for you.
Root NC4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784009 by @droidguy22
Odin help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2576104 by @az_biker
Root NC4 and setup to flash roms : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787627 by @BeansTown106
Safestrap : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610 by @Hashcode
Modems : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524572 by @BeansTown106
NC2 was a leak we got before the NC4 OTA, the NC2 left us a few loopholes that NC4 didn't. People who took the NC2 leak can odin all the way back to MJE 4.3 if we like. If you took the NC4 OTA you're stuck on NC4. Just because you're on NC4 doesn't mean you have to stick with that modem if your signal is awful. It all depends on where you are, etc. I'm on the NC2 leak but that modem was terrible for me so I flashed the NC4 modem. Some users are on NC4/NC2 and using the MJE modem and others are on NC2 modem. You have to try them out for yourself but if your signal is fine then don't worry about it. Just read, read and read again. Take your time and follow all instructions and you'll be fine. Happy rooting and flashing roms.
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This post should effectively end all questions regarding basic flashing and upgrading firmware I'm thinking this will be referred to about a bazillion times! Nice work!
az_biker said:
This post should effectively end all questions regarding basic flashing and upgrading firmware I'm thinking this will be referred to about a bazillion times! Nice work!
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Thanks a ton, I just try to help out when I can.
One more question actually. I'm on the nc2 leak. Will flashing the nc4 full stock tar replace the bootloader and strand me as if I took the OTA?
So I've got a Verizon Note 3 running android 4.3 rooted with supersu + busybox, decent amount of samsung bloatware disabled. I am wondering for starters if I were to install safestrap if I can just keep the way it currently is and then use a rom slot for any roms or should I factory wipe the stock slot, install 4.4.2 via odin then root via towelroot and then install safestrap and rom from that or what method should I take? Is it possible to use the ROM slots on the VZN3? I watched a few youtube videos and they were all factory resetting the stock slot and installing it there but I'd love to be able to just keep my current setup as is since it'd be a guranteed fallback. In case this doesnt make sense just respond as to what needs clarification and i'll respond in less than 5 minutes.
You can use only the jelly bean roms while on jb. Follow the instructions to use a kitkat rom in each roms op. You have to odin the kernal. You will retain root if following them. You dont need to use towelroot.
So can i just do a rom slot or do I have to upgrade to kit kat? What do you mean by odin the kernel?
Its really to much to explain… you probably really have to do some read up on odin software and kernels before you attempt to do anything on your phone cause no one is responsible but you… So please google search how to odin or how to flash a unified kernel NC2 or NC4… Nc2 is a older but more versatile kernel of 4.4.2 and Nc4 is the lastest kernel likely the one that your on now go to about phone and look under Baseband Version yours should say NC4 the last 3 character
waco2hot33 said:
Its really to much to explain… you probably really have to do some read up on odin software and kernels before you attempt to do anything on your phone cause no one is responsible but you… So please google search how to odin or how to flash a unified kernel NC2 or NC4… Nc2 is a older but more versatile kernel of 4.4.2 and Nc4 is the lastest kernel likely the one that your on now go to about phone and look under Baseband Version yours should say NC4 the last 3 character
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Seems like saying kernel is unnecessary, isn't this just flashing the .tar or whatever format it is to the phone using odin, i've already done that. I just need to upgrade to NC4? No one is answering the question of whether i can just use the rom slots and keep the stock slot active on MJE.
Xproplayer said:
Seems like saying kernel is unnecessary, isn't this just flashing the .tar or whatever format it is to the phone using odin, i've already done that. I just need to upgrade to NC4? No one is answering the question of whether i can just use the rom slots and keep the stock slot active on MJE.
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Once you upgrade to KK your MJE roms won't work so if you have a real love for a particular MJE rom stay on MJE. On KK and the updated safestrap rom slots work but with mixed results, some people have no problems and other roms in slots other than stock have seen performance issues.
You only need the NC2 kernel if you took the NC4 OTA, if you upgrade via this method you don't have to worry about it.
See here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55241731&postcount=2
waco2hot33 said:
Its really to much to explain… you probably really have to do some read up on odin software and kernels before you attempt to do anything on your phone cause no one is responsible but you… So please google search how to odin or how to flash a unified kernel NC2 or NC4… Nc2 is a older but more versatile kernel of 4.4.2 and Nc4 is the lastest kernel likely the one that your on now go to about phone and look under Baseband Version yours should say NC4 the last 3 character
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thegamerdarkseid said:
Once you upgrade to KK your MJE roms won't work so if you have a real love for a particular MJE rom stay on MJE. On KK and the updated safestrap rom slots work but with mixed results, some people have no problems and other roms in slots other than stock have seen performance issues.
You only need the NC2 kernel if you took the NC4 OTA, if you upgrade via this method you don't have to worry about it.
See here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55241731&postcount=2
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I don't want MJE roms, I want NC4 roms, but what I mean is can I keep my stock slot as MJE and use rom slot for nc4 roms
Xproplayer said:
I don't want MJE roms, I want NC4 roms, but what I mean is can I keep my stock slot as MJE and use rom slot for nc4 roms
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No that can't happen unless there's something huge that I don't know about. They are different firmwares. But if you do the rooted upgrade you can go back if you prefer ME, if you do the OTA there's no going back to MJE.
Xproplayer said:
I don't want MJE roms, I want NC4 roms, but what I mean is can I keep my stock slot as MJE and use rom slot for nc4 roms
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No that can't happen unless there's something huge that I don't know about. They are different firmwares. But if you do the rooted upgrade you can go back if you prefer ME, if you do the OTA there's no going back to MJE.
Xproplayer said:
I don't want MJE roms, I want NC4 roms, but what I mean is can I keep my stock slot as MJE and use rom slot for nc4 roms
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Xproplayer said:
I don't want MJE roms, I want NC4 roms, but what I mean is can I keep my stock slot as MJE and use rom slot for nc4 roms
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No that can't happen unless there's something huge that I don't know about. They are different firmwares. But if you do the rooted upgrade you can go back if you prefer ME, if you do the OTA there's no going back to MJE.
Xproplayer said:
I don't want MJE roms, I want NC4 roms, but what I mean is can I keep my stock slot as MJE and use rom slot for nc4 roms
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currently the only rom that runs with the NC4 kernel is jasmine.
the_rooter said:
currently the only rom that runs with the NC4 kernel is jasmine.
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Are you sure? I was looking at alliancerom and it says NC4 4.4.2 in the name...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2553357
Xproplayer said:
Are you sure? I was looking at alliancerom and it says NC4 4.4.2 in the name...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2553357
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Yes Alliance is nc2 kernel but it'll be nc4 next build..... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55373385
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Yes Alliance is nc2 kernel but it'll be nc4 next build..... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55373385
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Do you happen to know about hyerdrive, and just to clarify i should be able to flash nc2 to my vzn3 and then install alliance over it
Both are possible; I did the latter. ROM slots do not work with SS 3.72 and above (the one you will need if you are running kit Kat). You can only flash ROMs to the stock slot, so make a nandroid first!
If you decide to stay on JB and SS 3.71, you can definitely keep a stock ROM in the stock slot and install another ROM on a custom ROM slot. Hope I could help.
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Actually since you're on note 3 you may need SS 3.75 if you're going to flash kit Kat Roms. If you have any questions feel free to email me. And yes Hyperdrive is an extremely popular TW ROM. Just make sure whatever android version you are on, flash a compatible ROM.
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Both are possible; I did the latter. ROM slots do not work with SS 3.72 and above (the one you will need if you are running kit Kat). You can only flash ROMs to the stock slot, so make a nandroid first!
If you decide to stay on JB and SS 3.71, you can definitely keep a stock ROM in the stock slot and install another ROM on a custom ROM slot. Hope I could help.
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Actually since you're on note 3 you may need SS 3.75 if you're going to flash kit Kat Roms. If you have any questions feel free to email me. And yes Hyperdrive is an extremely popular TW ROM. Just make sure whatever android version you are on, flash a compatible ROM.
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its actually ss 3.75 B04
So does anyone know about hyperdrive? I looked all over the thread and couldn't find anything..
Xproplayer said:
So does anyone know about hyperdrive? I looked all over the thread and couldn't find anything..
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What do you want to know about Hyperdrive? If you're on NC4 and you want to run Hyperdrive you'll have to flash the NC2 kernel after flashing the rom or it won't boot. Just flash the rom in safestrap and when you're done flashing use safestrap to boot into download mode and flash NC2 kernel in Odin in the AP slot. In all honesty I'd look into flashing @hsbadr unified kk firmware and then you could run any rom in this forum without worrying about flashing the NC2 kernel. I've done it and been able to bounce from rom to rom without any issues....
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What do you want to know about Hyperdrive? If you're on NC4 and you want to run Hyperdrive you'll have to flash the NC2 kernel after flashing the rom or it won't boot. Just flash the rom in safestrap and when you're done flashing use safestrap to boot into download mode and flash NC2 kernel in Odin in the AP slot. In all honesty I'd look into flashing @hsbadr unified kk firmware and then you could run any rom in this forum without worrying about flashing the NC2 kernel. I've done it and been able to bounce from rom to rom without any issues....
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I'm currently on 4.3 MJE, could you send some links on this unified, the only two roms I'm currently interested in are Hyperdrive and Alliance but I've been told each one has to be flashed onto specific roms etc etc.
Xproplayer said:
I'm currently on 4.3 MJE, could you send some links on this unified, the only two roms I'm currently interested in are Hyperdrive and Alliance but I've been told each one has to be flashed onto specific roms etc etc.
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Here's the link to the post look in Downloads. RE is for retail edition and DE is for Dev Edition. Don't flash the wrong one or you could brick your phone. The unified firmware is flashed in Odin in the AP slot and once you flash it you can jump from rom to rom without worrying about the NC2 kernel but since you're on MJE you'll need to do the KK upgrade before flashing unified firmware. See quote in red at the bottom of the Downloads section!! I don't want you to get the wrong impression as I'm not yelling at you or anything bro, I don't want anyone bricking their device....
Link to firmware : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52860439&postcount=1
Links for all other things : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55241731&postcount=2