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Post photos taken with your MOTO X.
I currently dont have a moto x so you guys can post your own....I guess!!!!!!
Update: planning on getting a moto x but they don't seem to launch our in India
Let's hope I get one!
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I don't think any one has it yet....
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Well they will.... Soon
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Here's some photos OF a Moto X and its available color options
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I just got my seed device, should have my noto in 4 days!!!!!
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Cool!
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Moto X sample shots
Moto X sample shots
http://www.engadget.com/gallery/moto-x-sample-shots-1/479482/#!slide=479498
karty said:
Moto X sample shots
http://www.engadget.com/gallery/moto-x-sample-shots-1/479482/#!slide=479498
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Well, this is what I about expected from a Moto camera. I have seen in the right conditions and lighting pretty good shots with it, but as a 2 phone guy, this is why I will be carrying my Nokia 928 with me for photos and Moto for ecosystem and Google services. I heard most of these inadequacies can be improved upon with SW updates. We will see.
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Well, this is what I about expected from a Moto camera. I have seen in the right conditions and lighting pretty good shots with it, but as a 2 phone guy, this is why I will be carrying my Nokia 928 with me for photos and Moto for ecosystem and Google services. I heard most of these inadequacies can be improved upon with SW updates. We will see.
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Gotta love the Lumia cameras. Gosh I miss my 920. It was so easy to take nice shots with that phone and every phone I've had since hasn't even come close.
The camera on this and the new droids quite honestly sucks. I don't think anyone is surprised, but you would think if they were going for an "iphone" like market, they would have put a little more emphasis on the shooter. the artifacts in low light pics are plain awful:crying:
Was seriously considering this to move from the N4, but not anymore. Every single review that has posted pics just don't look good at all.
I love moto, just wish they would step their camera game up a notch and not just throw around terms like clearpixel...it clearly doesn't help.
I am interested in seeing real world shots that ppl get with it though---sometimes they differ from the review photos.
Happy Shooting Moto X folks
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The camera on this and the new droids quite honestly sucks. I don't think anyone is surprised, but you would think if they were going for an "iphone" like market, they would have put a little more emphasis on the shooter. the artifacts in low light pics are plain awful:crying:
Was seriously considering this to move from the N4, but not anymore. Every single review that has posted pics just don't look good at all.
I love moto, just wish they would step their camera game up a notch and not just throw around terms like clearpixel...it clearly doesn't help.
I am interested in seeing real world shots that ppl get with it though---sometimes they differ from the review photos.
Happy Shooting Moto X folks
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Well if you were planning to get the MotoX mainly for its camera, then you obviously will be disappointed. It's not leading edge right from the start, but a simple software update to tweak how it adjusts and balances the light can easily improve the quality a bit. I always view cellphone cams as means to create passable photos.
shea-bird said:
The camera on this and the new droids quite honestly sucks. I don't think anyone is surprised, but you would think if they were going for an "iphone" like market, they would have put a little more emphasis on the shooter. the artifacts in low light pics are plain awful:crying:
Was seriously considering this to move from the N4, but not anymore. Every single review that has posted pics just don't look good at all.
I love moto, just wish they would step their camera game up a notch and not just throw around terms like clearpixel...it clearly doesn't help.
I am interested in seeing real world shots that ppl get with it though---sometimes they differ from the review photos.
Happy Shooting Moto X folks
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They still look better than the N4's pics, at least I think so.
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Well if you were planning to get the MotoX mainly for its camera, then you obviously will be disappointed. It's not leading edge right from the start, but a simple software update to tweak how it adjusts and balances the light can easily improve the quality a bit. I always view cellphone cams as means to create passable photos.
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Yeah I'm not looking for a DSLR, but at least match the quality of the current flagships. They are a couple Gens behind with this cam (or so it appears). The S3 took better pics. My N4 is in the same boat...crappy cam, I've been looking for that vanilla phone with a good cam...Doesn't look like its gonna happen, might have to go back to the old root n rom method.
The Sony Honami could change that though.
Anyhow, still want to see the real world pics from the X...couple more days til we get a few samples.
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I just got my seed device, should have my noto in 4 days!!!!!
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Just got an email from them saying the shipping has been delayed does this happen to you as well?
Resized, but otherwise unretouched shot from my Moto X. This is just a shot from my office window - no artistic merit!
any comparative shots out yet? vs htc1, s4 and nexus4?
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any comparative shots out yet? vs htc1, s4 and nexus4?
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Here's a quick comparison shot between the MotoX & Samsung Galaxy S4. These shots were taken about 30 seconds apart and have no post processing done other than resizing each to a width of 640 pixels. The one on the left is from the Moto X and the one on the right is from the Galaxy S4.
I haven't tested the Moto X in low light or any challenging conditions.
Initial thoughts:
- The one from the GS4 os a much more accurate colour rendition of the actual scene.
- The one from the Moto X has a purplish cast to the picture (see the colour of the sky).
- There is a lot more detail in the picture taken by the GS4.
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Here's a quick comparison shot between the MotoX & Samsung Galaxy S4. These shots were taken about 30 seconds apart and have no post processing done other than resizing each to a width of 640 pixels. The one on the left is from the Moto X and the one on the right is from the Galaxy S4.
I haven't tested the Moto X in low light or any challenging conditions.
Initial thoughts:
- The one from the GS4 os a much more accurate colour rendition of the actual scene.
- The one from the Moto X has a purplish cast to the picture (see the colour of the sky).
- There is a lot more detail in the picture taken by the GS4.
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Exactly..Like I said...this camera is generations behind the current top shooters. Its a shame, and there's really no excuse other than being ignorant and disconnected from what customers want. They even hyped the camera with this ClearPixel nonsense - please dont hype a horrible camera. I would have DEF bought this phone had it contained a good camera.
BAH
Eager to see some more shots, but they could have done WAAY better with this.
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Exactly..Like I said...this camera is generations behind the current top shooters. Its a shame, and there's really no excuse other than being ignorant and disconnected from what customers want. They even hyped the camera with this ClearPixel nonsense - please dont hype a horrible camera. I would have DEF bought this phone had it contained a good camera.
BAH
Eager to see some more shots, but they could have done WAAY better with this.
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There are issues but I'm not sure whether they are due to the sensor or the processing done on the resultant image. The former would be a huge issue, while the latter is something that could be addressed via a software update.
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Here's a quick comparison shot between the MotoX & Samsung Galaxy S4. These shots were taken about 30 seconds apart and have no post processing done other than resizing each to a width of 640 pixels. The one on the left is from the Moto X and the one on the right is from the Galaxy S4.
I haven't tested the Moto X in low light or any challenging conditions.
Initial thoughts:
- The one from the GS4 os a much more accurate colour rendition of the actual scene.
- The one from the Moto X has a purplish cast to the picture (see the colour of the sky).
- There is a lot more detail in the picture taken by the GS4.
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wow, S4 makes the X look like a joke.
I will be updating this daily or as time permits. I took a few while I was out today, will try to keep album current for you guys. Leave questions/comments
https://www.flickr.com/photos/windroidguy/sets/72157651931007209
I'm not able to view them
Says no permission.. You need to make it public probably.
@ gtg465x: Considering the G4 mate?
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@ gtg465x: Considering the G4 mate?
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Yeah, but I consider almost every flagship phone released, so that doesn't mean I will buy it. I currently have an S6, but if the G4 camera and screen turn out to be better, and the software doesn't make me cry, then I would consider switching from the S6.
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Yeah, but I consider almost every flagship phone released, so that doesn't mean I will buy it. I currently have an S6, but if the G4 camera and screen turn out to be better, and the software doesn't make me cry, then I would consider switching from the S6.
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Gotcha, noticed some of your posts about the S6. It will be interesting to see if you will jump ship to the G4. Some members choose to believe the official releases will be better than the previous pre production units. Time will tell. From this video I see very similar results or besting the S6 with the camera, not so much on the videos however.
Thanks to these reviewers on YouTube we are able to see the difference as of today between the two flagships.
https://youtu.be/PsAt_o8zxGw
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I will be updating this daily or as time permits. I took a few while I was out today, will try to keep album current for you guys. Leave questions/comments
https://www.flickr.com/photos/windroidguy/sets/72157651931007209
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Great stuff, thanks for your effort. Some low light shots would be fantastic if you have time (and the RAW files too if you really have time )
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Great stuff, thanks for your effort. Some low light shots would be fantastic if you have time (and the RAW files too if you really have time )
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Some (in fact I think all) of the pics have that kind of water colour painting look when you zoom in to 100% and that's usually the result of over aggressive noise reduction (isn't it?) so that's why I'm keen to see some RAW files (particularly of low light shots)
I'm curious about the G4 as well, as I do plan on upgrading over the summer, especially since the camera is pretty much my highest priority. Thus far, it's between this and the S6. Of course, even if the pics are great, I need to see the phone in person anyway. I am worried about the size though since I don't have large hands... XD
I see the pics just fine, though I do have a Flickr account, so not sure if that's a factor to those who can't see the pics. Maybe the OP changed the settings, no idea. I like the pics you have so far, but I definitely wanna see some low lights shots and some indoor pics as well.
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legend221 said:
Gotcha, noticed some of your posts about the S6. It will be interesting to see if you will jump ship to the G4. Some members choose to believe the official releases will be better than the previous pre production units. Time will tell. From this video I see very similar results or besting the S6 with the camera, not so much on the videos however.
Thanks to these reviewers on YouTube we are able to see the difference as of today between the two flagships.
https://youtu.be/PsAt_o8zxGw
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this youtube comparison is awesome
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LG G4 Camera <3
Why i Love the LG G4's Camera:
In my Opinion, the G4 has the best multitalent camera in all smartphone's cameras.
Speed is almost as good as iPhone 6+ and S6
Superior Dynamic Range
All Photo/Video Recording Modes (4k,1440p,1080/60p,720/120p) and 16 Megapixels
HDR-Video is also on-board.
Laser-AF just needs 0.1s to Focus! Wow...
Good Low-Light Performance
Ranklist of best phone Cameras in my opinion:
LG G4
SGS6 (Has best speed, but only almost LG G4 Quality)
SGN4/EDGE
Nokia Lumia 1030 (Speed got much better than 1020. But is still not the best.)
Lumix FZ1000 Beats all phones
6 Questions about the LG G4 Camera, please answer, if you can
Question 1:
Does the LG G4 Record Slow-Motion Video, like i described here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/slow-motion-phones-device-how-to-imo-t2998500
Question 2:
The LG G4 is still not in the German Tech Shops.
How many Burst Shots can you shoot in row?
Question 3:
Is burstshot also possible with HDR?
Question 4:
Can you boost the OIS with Digital Image Stabilisation to maximize the stabilisation=?
Question 5:
Which Bitrate is used to record 4K-Video on the G4?
Question 6:
Has the G4 got a PHYSICAL shutter button?
Another video review of the LG G4 photo and video specifically just posted online a few hours ago.
Get at it [emoji3]
https://youtu.be/j2lWfUYnrIc
Droid Life posted a comparison of the G4, S6, and M9. The G4 and S6 both have excellent cameras, with the G4 excelling in most low light shots but the S6 having slightly more appealing daylight shots.
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/05/07/camera-sample-comparison-lg-g4-vs-galaxy-s6-edge-vs-one-m9/
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Droid Life posted a comparison of the G4, S6, and M9. The G4 and S6 both have excellent cameras, with the G4 excelling in most low light shots but the S6 having slightly more appealing daylight shots.
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/05/07/camera-sample-comparison-lg-g4-vs-galaxy-s6-edge-vs-one-m9/
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This post from another member has a video of both too. LG G4 reigns as king on his review.
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60610784&postcount=64
Another video showing video comparion between LG g4 vs samsung galaxy s6 edge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY6rAE8FNkg
Shows Bad OIS on LG g4
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Another video showing video comparion between LG g4 vs samsung galaxy s6 edge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY6rAE8FNkg
Shows Bad OIS on LG g4
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This is the other way round
https://youtu.be/RFlYg4jKtlw
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I will be updating this daily or as time permits. I took a few while I was out today, will try to keep album current for you guys. Leave questions/comments
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what a coincidence I have iPhone 6 too with same UAG case just blue . Awesome looks and sturdy case. I am considering switching back to android with following priority:
camera must be on the par or better to s6 or iPhone 6
screen not as badly saturated as S6 . How does it look side by side with iPhone 6?
I hope it doesn't lag By the way how is the battery life and your impression over all?
many thanks
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/lg-g4-galaxy-s6-iphone-6-plus-camera,review-2791.html
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reviews that do not provide links to original photos should not be taken seriously.
That's about every review out there.
Hey,
i came across a blind shootout recently which featured 5 phones, one of them the LG G4.
The shootout was done by an android site and i will name the site after i post the results (i guess one or the other might know where it was from or might find it after a research - please don't give away clues or spoilers in that case).
I would simply like anyone who is interested to download the pix in the link below, compare them and share your thoughts about which phone takes the best pix in your opinion.
5 different pix were taken with each of the 5 phones (Phones, or to be more precise the Cameras are simply named A, B, C, D, and E).
For better comparison each folder contains the same picture taken with the different phones.
I would greatly appreciate it if you let me know which camera you think took the best photos and/or why.
As I said the LG G4 is one of the phones, I'll name the other 4 phones (all top ranked cams on DxOMark by the way) along with the solution on monday to give us all some time to view the pix and discuss.
I hope many will participate
Here's the link:
Blind Camera Shootout Files
Greetz,
vercetti.
Nice of you to do this, but you are not the only one who reads PA tests... NHF but you could've simply put a link of the blind shootout...
If i'm wrong i'm sorry...
I think we all already know which phone in all of the world takes the best photos, or we wouldn't be in this thread in the first place!
hey guys,
i didn't put the link in (yet) because it renders the comparison useless due to the posted solution of which camera took which photos. viewing pictures without knowing which camera took them is simply more objective...
and i posted it in the LG G4 section for a reason: i think the pix it took in this test shoot are much worse than most of the other cams and i was just wondering if you would also name one of the other 4 cams as your best shooter in this test - this only makes sense if you don't know which cam took which pictures (the reason why i didn't post the original link yet).
I'm not an owner of an LG G4 but I'm considering getting one since its camera has been praised so much (especcially manual mode + raw). The results of this shootout surprised me though.
Maybe it's just because of its weak auto mode (I'm sure all test shots were taken on auto mode on each camera). The G4's auto mode has been criticized by quite some people. I just don't understand why the G4 did so badly in this shootout.
Check the pix in the download link i provided in my first post and tell me which cam took the best pix in your opinion? A, B, C, D or E?
greetz,
vercetti.
I have used every mobile phone with a great camera, and the only one even close to the G4 is the camera is the GS6 - you have to tweak a couple of things to get all of the performance, though
Tweak a couple of things on GS6 or G4 (to get better results)?
If G4 - which tweaks are you thinking of?
Thx for your input.
v.
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I would simply like anyone who is interested to download the pix in the link below, compare them and share your thoughts about which phone takes the best pix in your opinion.
5 different pix were taken with each of the 5 phones (Phones, or to be more precise the Cameras are simply named A, B, C, D, and E).
For better comparison each folder contains the same picture taken with the different phones.
I would greatly appreciate it if you let me know which camera you think took the best photos and/or why.
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cannot expect to understand strengths and weaknesses of 5 different devices with a sample size of 5 (!)
The photo can change if you point the camera at a different angle.
if you want to know what the G4 can do and how good its camera is go through the photo samples thread. Look at hundreds of photos under different lighting conditions. Understand the features the G4 camera brings over the competition.
As I said the LG G4 is one of the phones, I'll name the other 4 phones (all top ranked cams on DxOMark by the way) along with the solution on monday to give us all some time to view the pix and discuss.
I hope many will participate
Here's the link:
Blind Camera Shootout Files
Greetz,
vercetti.
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Problem i have with the site you've sourced these from is they do not include exifs in any of their test shots and neither are thier sample shots in full resolution. That is a double fail in my book.
I realise the samples you provided are indeed full resolution but without exifs.
Thx for your answer One Twelve,
indeed 5 samples is very small, but i think if one cam produces 5 good pix while another one does not, that does indicate a difference (of course changing angle/direction will result in different exposure, focus etc. but don't forget, in a test like this all cams undergo these limitations and so if one does better than the other that sort of proves a point i think).
Yes, I've viewed every pic in the sample photo thread (not only on xda but also on other boards) and some are just incredibly good! Again, i have no doubt that the G4 is capable of the best results but usually only when shooting in manual mode and using raw format to process them later and get even better results.
Yes, the shots were stripped of exif data, only the resolution remained in there (was not done by me, i took them just how they were in the test).
The exif was surely stripped to not give away camera model/name.
My favorite Cams in this test were A and E. I thought B, C, and D had very much less detail and sometimes blurry or washed out and less contrast.
The contenders in this shootout were:
Nexus 6P
Motorola X Play
LG G4
Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge
Sony Xperia Z5
I'll post the results later on today as I promised.
Greetz,
v.
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Thx for your answer One Twelve,
indeed 5 samples is very small, but i think if one cam produces 5 good pix while another one does not, that does indicate a difference (of course changing angle/direction will result in different exposure, focus etc. but don't forget, in a test like this all cams undergo these limitations and so if one does better than the other that sort of proves a point i think).
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what point is that This is some random shoot with 5 devices and the opinion of readers is solicited. its a popularoty contest that does not go into pros & cons, features of any of the devices concerned.
What i wanted to check is that auto hdr was not set for landscapes. Hdr will produce a less sharper image as its a blend of more than one image. you do not want hdr to come on in such a comparison. it might for some and not others. how to tell ? With the G4 the exifs will indicate immediately but not in this case.
Also shutter speed indoors can play a factor. How fast the shot was taken. sometimes shot is taken without getting focus and its softer. How to tell ? no way.
have seen images where focus is not sharp even when shutter is adequately quick. its a focus problem. Can happen with any device.
Yes, I've viewed every pic in the sample photo thread (not only on xda but also on other boards) and some are just incredibly good! Again, i have no doubt that the G4 is capable of the best results but usually only when shooting in manual mode and using raw format to process them later and get even better results.
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I found it a bit curious you said the g4 does not do well with auto. In over 6 months the amount of people that complain about this i can count on the fingers of one hand. Compared with almost every week with some other models.
Yes, the shots were stripped of exif data, only the resolution remained in there (was not done by me, i took them just how they were in the test).
The exif was surely stripped to not give away camera model/name.
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True i checked them on the site. But they don't provide exifs for any of their shots. A problem I suspect lies with their publishing platform rather than deliberately.
My favorite Cams in this test were A and E. I thought B, C, and D had very much less detail and sometimes blurry or washed out and less contrast.
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I liked E the best.
The contenders in this shootout were:
Nexus 6P
Motorola X Play
LG G4
Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge
Sony Xperia Z5
I'll post the results later on today as I promised.
Greetz,
v.
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Just two out of five in that list have OIS. Was OIS tested here ? no. A competent OIS is very important unless you plan to shoot everything in excellent light.
Three out of five come with expandable storage. Just one also offers a replaceable battery.
There is another contender that will probably beat all of the above and that is the lumia 950. Was it in this test ? no
When i saw the results of this test, yes i know the rankings. A pattern jumped out.
The top two by popular vote use multi-segment metering by default, the remainder use centre weighted metering. For landscapes the former metering will look better but in other kinds of scenes centre weighted will come out better. There are tradeoffs between the two and each works best depending on the scene.
So when doing this test the metering should be the same for all. Unfortunately one candidate in that test is the odd one. It uses a different metering by default that cannot be changed so it has an edge in certain situations and a disadvantage with others.
Is difficult to conclude much without seeing exifs and they are not going to come
For future reference you want full resolutions with exifs intact to be able to start a conversation about this topic.
Wow, thx for the lengthy reply, i really apprecciate it! you bring up some interesting points that I'd like to know more about - if you have the time to answer of course.
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The point being that all of the 5 phones were tested in the same "bad" way. Like you already mentioned: "alter the time, direction, perspective or whatever to a small degree and the picture will be different". Yes, that is true. But this applies to all 5 phones here, not just to one. So if some produce better pix throughout the 5 shots than it implies that these phones cope better with various situations, adapt more precisely and more realiably provide better images. That's all I'm trying to say.
the opinion of readers is solicited. its a popularoty contest
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And I couldn't care less about the results of the voting
What i wanted to check is that auto hdr was not set for landscapes. Hdr will produce a less sharper image as its a blend of more than one image. you do not want hdr to come on in such a comparison.
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Thx for this information piece, very good to know.
Also shutter speed indoors can play a factor. How fast the shot was taken. sometimes shot is taken without getting focus and its softer.
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Can't understand this. Why should the chosen shutter speed influence the previous act of focusing? Shooting at 1/1000 sec doesn't mean that I want the shot to happen in the next 1/1000 of a second! I could adjust focus for half an hour if I want and then get a frame which was exposed for a 1/1000 second.
have seen images where focus is not sharp even when shutter is adequately quick. its a focus problem. Can happen with any device.
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I guess this is what you're trying to say regarding the out of focus issue.
I found it a bit curious you said the g4 does not do well with auto. In over 6 months the amount of people that complain about this i can count on the fingers of one hand.
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I know! That's why I don't get why the 5 shots in the test came out the way they did. How could he/she have messed them up so badly compared to A and E?
I liked E the best.
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Yes, hard to decide for me between E and A.
A pattern jumped out.
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What do you mean?
So when doing this test the metering should be the same for all. Unfortunately one candidate in that test is the odd one. It uses a different metering by default that cannot be changed so it has an edge in certain situations and a disadvantage with others.
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Which phone is this?
Is difficult to conclude much without seeing exifs and they are not going to come
For future reference you want full resolutions with exifs intact to be able to start a conversation about this topic.
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Yes, you're right.
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts/knowledge with me!
Greetz,
v.
Hey, as promised the results:
A = Galaxy S6
B = Nexus 6p
C = Xperia Z5
D = LG G4
E = Moto X Style
Original article is from the german androidpit site, here it is:
Link
And here the blog entry with the results:
Link
Greetz,
v.
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The point being that all of the 5 phones were tested in the same "bad" way. Like you already mentioned: "alter the time, direction, perspective or whatever to a small degree and the picture will be different". Yes, that is true. But this applies to all 5 phones here, not just to one. So if some produce better pix throughout the 5 shots than it implies that these phones cope better with various situations, adapt more precisely and more realiably provide better images. That's all I'm trying to say.
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How will they behave in another 5 situations. Another 5 and so on. I cannot say. Just that in these 5 we can see some differrences.
Thx for this information piece, very good to know.
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with some devices you can tell if hdr is used with others its not indicated.
Can't understand this. Why should the chosen shutter speed influence the previous act of focusing? Shooting at 1/1000 sec doesn't mean that I want the shot to happen in the next 1/1000 of a second! I could adjust focus for half an hour if I want and then get a frame which was exposed for a 1/1000 second.
I guess this is what you're trying to say regarding the out of focus issue.
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If you click before it gets focus it will take the shot. it will never refuse. If focus was not correct did they check and retake. Otheriwse photo will not look good and its mistake of the tester not camera.
I know! That's why I don't get why the 5 shots in the test came out the way they did. How could he/she have messed them up so badly compared to A and E?
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why does it matter. there are plenty of comparisons out there. Without exifs there are no answers so i do not think more about it.
What do you mean?
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Since you posted the results, the top two by preference are z5 & moto x style. These are default multi segment shooters. in landscapes colour exposure will look better.
The rest are all centre weighted.
Which phone is this?
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moto x style is a default multi shooter. does good with landscapes. z5, samsung you can change the metering. g4 is default centre weighted like nexus 6p and htc one m9 and cannot be changed so you have to take little more care that light is not too bright in the scene. change the framing.
check this comparison out. its done by a reviewer that knows cameras
http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/21116_Camera_head_to_head_Lumia_950_.php
The point i'm trying to make is if the shot does not come out right you can fix it. if you know what to do. This is more important than who is the winner in any shoot out.
One cannot expect perfect shots with any camera all the time. So does the camera provide the tools to do this. Only the G4 does in your list. 6p & MXS have no manual control. Z5 has little more. The S6 is second best here.
Check out also V10, same camera as G4 but control of video. But its bigger device. Too big for me this year.
Auto shootouts are random & static there is no second chance which is not always true in real life.
This shootout was a nice try. But seriously why Camera A is always at 16MP when all the other get the crop misleading camouflage? I care about FoV in a camera and I disvalued some of them because of the intentional crop.
Interestingly, I picked E,D and A as my favourites . But I put A as third because of its sharpness mask wich I hate. Now I see A is GS6: I used to appreciate Samsung "softness" software decision this year but now I see this Contrast and sharpness mask, WTF happened to Samsung?
I used to dislike G4 usual sharpness mask instead here I see A LOT of softness. Don't know what happened with updates xD
oile said:
I used to dislike G4 usual sharpness mask instead here I see A LOT of softness. Don't know what happened with updates xD
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There was a comparison posted between G3 & G4 from android authority and it looked like G3 had the better shots in auto.
I concluded that the G4 lens was not cleam
IMHO a test has to be done by somebody who: knows how to make a good picture, knows how to set up a camera, understand the concept of exposure-shake-focus-unsharp mask-noise reduction (I am sure I miss something). None of these requirements are fulfilled by the author of this test.
In my 25 years as pro photographer I have seen so many photo editors, graphics, "experts" misunderstanding the differences between Focus accurancy, shake, contrast and sharpness mask.
Hi!
I bought Lg G4 very much for its camera, but my Nexus 6 still takes better pictures...........
First pic is from g4 and second is from Nexus 6. G4 is picking up sunlight and making pictures to bright......very dissapointed.
They look about the same to me. Try some different shots I guess.
I am quite impressed with G4 camera, beats the S6 edge and Priv we have.
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They look about the same to me. Try some different shots I guess.
I am quite impressed with G4 camera, beats the S6 edge and Priv we have.
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You can see the sunbeam on the back of the chair on the G4.
Here is two other examples. First one from Nexus 6, second one from G4. Nexus 6 pic is much more vivid and clear, LG G4 is to bright and catches all sunlight on the picture,
Ohh yah I see it there. Have you tried dark shots with out sun light.
I don't have a Nexus 6 to compare but I do wonder if maybe you got a bad camera on a G4 (if that is possible).
Are you on the latest version too, M?
It may make a difference where you touch to focus too.
Jaxione said:
You can see the sunbeam on the back of the chair on the G4.
Here is two other examples. First one from Nexus 6, second one from G4. Nexus 6 pic is much more vivid and clear, LG G4 is to bright and catches all sunlight on the picture,
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This is just different focus points. G4 has laser focus and probably focuses on another area. Indoor pictures are crap anyway especially when shot against bright windows.
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Ohh yah I see it there. Have you tried dark shots with out sun light.
I don't have a Nexus 6 to compare but I do wonder if maybe you got a bad camera on a G4 (if that is possible).
Are you on the latest version too, M?
It may make a difference where you touch to focus too.
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Yes i am on Marshmallow. Still picks up every sunbeam there is, doesent matter where I focus. Here is another example. The sunbeam looks like a white mark across the picture, my Nexus 6 does not pick up that at all
see if this help:
clean the camera lens, then take a shot;
i have my G4 for 3 weeks and i love photography ! i have photos that make me say WT...lolololol
exemples:
https://goo.gl/photos/1guniv2cwdW3vBx9A
https://goo.gl/photos/CMxKBp5KfnUeVndN6
https://goo.gl/photos/FkYgDs6A2dQiTNjD7
all in manual mode
You have full manual controls with RAW capability. Regardless of how auto works, tweaking manual settings will produce far better shots than the Nexus 6 would ever be capable of producing.
Now for the helpful less "fan boy sounding" response: LG tend to blow out highlights in the background to produce a proper exposure for the main subject.
Even the G5 looks like this will be the case, as sampled here
Personally, I think Samsung nailed the auto camera experience with the S6 generation phones. LG have more capability, but it's lessened by the fact most users are not photographers.
Kind of looking forward to the S7 for this reason, it brings back all the features I couldn't tolerate losing with the S6 and enhances the camera even more.
To fix your problem (particularly in environments like your photos)
Turn the brightness up to about 80% with auto brightness disabled
Switch to manual in the camera
Keep everything auto, but fiddle with ISO and exposure time.
Keep the ISO as low as possible while making sure you can take a photo without motion blur from hand shakes (1/30 is as slow as I go usually)
When it looks right on screen, take the shot.
If in doubt and you're feeling technogically empowered, enable RAW.
Happy snapping
Your shooting scene is a difficult one. Play with Manual. The G4 camera is plain excellent. Ecstatic even.
If you want to record a video you are doomed, no manual mode there. Enjoy massive overexposure and over saturated colors. And the retarded ois of course...
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Night shots are amazing. I took this one without flash in Netherlands. The best thing is it was with auto mode. In my opinion better camera than any other smarts.
http://i.imgur.com/lO18AzQ.jpg
Thanks all for your replies. Its going back. I want a phone with a camera who can take ok pictures without having to fiddle with manual settings. I am no photographer and have no interest in changing settings for every scenario.
İ thing ur LG g4's camera has some problem cause i also used h815 and right now h818p mine was not like that bad u can look my photo's from the link
Edit I'm not photographer also it's really easy to learn manual settings just try but automatic also not bad
https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B0YMxD-WRGRoVnNudThXN01Fcms/edit
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Night shots are amazing. I took this one without flash in Netherlands. The best thing is it was with auto mode. In my opinion better camera than any other smarts.
http://i.imgur.com/lO18AzQ.jpg
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Good shot is it automatic or Manuel if Manuel than if u was try to ISO 50 and 4second exposure u can get gread pics u can also check my photos if u want
I went through my gallery to check indoor pictures. Definitely a faulty unit/optics/glass you have there, did not notice the same effect here.
Maybe you (OP) are looking at it from a wrong angle. I think the G4 camera just records what is sees. It's not its fault that there are sun rays. On the other hand, the N6 doesn't capture what there really is. Besides, the net is full of tutorials how to catch sunbeams. With G4 you get it out of the box.
This must be a problem with dirt on the lens or the protective glass, nothing to do with the camera, the camera is awesome. Could even be on the inside so it might be hard to remove without disassembling the phone.
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If you want to record a video you are doomed, no manual mode there. Enjoy massive overexposure and over saturated colors. And the retarded ois of course...
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Yeah the OIS is frankly terrible. I don't take any video with my G4 because of it.
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This must be a problem with dirt on the lens or the protective glass, nothing to do with the camera, the camera is awesome. Could even be on the inside so it might be hard to remove without disassembling the phone.
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Yep, looks to me like the lens had a smear or something on it.
I have 505 serial dual h818N. Having a vignette effect when on 60 fps mode. Some users reported that they have no issue like mine. Ois is terrible on my device IMHO.
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If you want to record a video you are doomed, no manual mode there. Enjoy massive overexposure and over saturated colors. And the retarded ois of course...
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I just own the G4 and I have to say hat video quality exposure and all that stuff its the best. maybe you need to learn a bit on how to use a proper camera.
The LG G4 was one of last year's best camera phone. Let's see what the G5 has in the guts with its dual rear cameras:
- 16 MP F/1.8 - 75° field of view - laser autofocus, OIS
- 8 MP F/2..4 - 135° field of view (ultra wide angle) - fixed autofocus
Here is video link describing some of the camera features:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFD8qkzpJCs
Some reviews of the camera:
GSM arena: http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g5-review-1416p7.php
Phone arena: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/LG-G5-Review_id4181/page/3
I will get some shots up soon.
Just 2 quick pictures I took ill take some more tomorrow
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Just 2 quick pictures I took ill take some more tomorrow
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Are the manual controls fun to use?
same as using a G4
Here are pictures taken today unedited. Camera seems more than capable enough, if you want legit photos buy a dslr and call it a day.
Can someone who already has the device post couple of JPEG + associated DNG files both for the regular and wide angle cameras (big files can be shared via Google Drive, Dropbox or OneDrive) ?
I would like to know whether LG included a flat field correction in the DNG this time (it wasn't the case at the G4 launch and was addressed months later during the marshmallow release). I had to create one in the mean time but it wasn't addressing perfectly the issues.
More background on the G4 DNG issue here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61360315&postcount=314
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If anyone is interested, I posted on Reddit yesterday a comparison (totally amateur) of the G4 G5 and S7E.
LG G4 vs LG G5 vs Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge picture shootout (informal)
Here are some pics testing out the manual settings
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Can someone who already has the device post couple of JPEG + associated DNG files both for the regular and wide angle cameras (big files can be shared via Google Drive, Dropbox or OneDrive) ?
I would like to know whether LG included a flat field correction in the DNG this time (it wasn't the case at the G4 launch and was addressed months later during the marshmallow release). I had to create one in the mean time but it wasn't addressing perfectly the issues.
More background on the G4 DNG issue here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61360315&postcount=314
Envoyé de mon SM-G928F en utilisant Tapatalk
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Anyone?
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Anyone?
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I've seen your posts but no longer have the pre production model which is not the same as the retail version. In the UK, the retail launch has got delayed a lot. However, I should get a raw file very soon (in 24 hours). I'll DM link to dropbox when done.
Here's a couple taken of two frogs on my trip to Point Reyes. Unedited, straight from my camera roll.
Here is an auto HDR auto shot with the wide angle sensor. Pretty cool.
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The camera on this absolutely smashes my s7
Has anyone noticed or experienced the camera distorting in lower light condition or in conditions where the subject is not perfectly still?
Some of my photos look like they've been run through a really bad water colour filter or like they have been shot through a sheet of plastic (like a protective film over the lens, but it doesn't appear to have one on out of the box), in perfect daylight photos of still subjects (building/scenery) are stunning, with both the wide and normal camera, but if the subject is moving, the wide angel really struggles with the distortion type effect. In low light, the wide angle seems basically unusable if the subject is not perfectly still.
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Has anyone noticed or experienced the camera distorting in lower light condition or in conditions where the subject is not perfectly still?
Some of my photos look like they've been run through a really bad water colour filter or like they have been shot through a sheet of plastic (like a protective film over the lens, but it doesn't appear to have one on out of the box), in perfect daylight photos of still subjects (building/scenery) are stunning, with both the wide and normal camera, but if the subject is moving, the wide angel really struggles with the distortion type effect. In low light, the wide angle seems basically unusable if the subject is not perfectly still.
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Next time try turning HDR off and see if that helps.
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Next time try turning HDR off and see if that helps.
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I'm going to try and give it a better test this evening, I think HDR was set to auto in that pic. I'm hoping you're right and changing that to off will solve this, it really does look software over hardware though, the Google Camera app seems to handle HDR processing better (although much slower than the camera on the G5, which is pretty instant, whereas my 5X took an age to process after the photo was taken). It's a shame the Google Camera app doesn't support the HDR mode when installed on the G5 and doesn't support the wide angle camera either so can't take a photo with that to do a direct comparison.
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I'm going to try and give it a better test this evening, I think HDR was set to auto in that pic. I'm hoping you're right and changing that to off will solve this, it really does look software over hardware though, the Google Camera app seems to handle HDR processing better (although much slower than the camera on the G5, which is pretty instant, whereas my 5X took an age to process after the photo was taken). It's a shame the Google Camera app doesn't support the HDR mode when installed on the G5 and doesn't support the wide angle camera either so can't take a photo with that to do a direct comparison.
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Nothing to do with HDR. The G5 went into night mode and held the shutter open longer. Go manual and fix the shutter speed.
The camera definitely hasnt been optimised yet in auto mode. Can tell by the way it selects a high iso in night shots. But I'm not worried as LG will sort this out in upcoming updates. I normally shoot in manual mode any way, and the photos are as amazing as I'd expect coming from the lg g4.
Really happy with this phone so far.
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The camera definitely hasnt been optimised yet in auto mode. Can tell by the way it selects a high iso in night shots. But I'm not worried as LG will sort this out in upcoming updates. I normally shoot in manual mode any way, and the photos are as amazing as I'd expect coming from the lg g4.
Really happy with this phone so far.
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I use Manual Camera normally for anything other than quick shots (normally on night out, so in low light where I use auto mode for speed), the manual mode in the default camera app though I'm really impressed with, especially coming from Manual Camera, this is my first LG phone so I'm loving that being available out of the box. The photos I've taken where I haven't been in a hurry or in low or challenging light have come out amazingly well. I agree though the look of the weird "shooting though plastic" or almost water colour like effect that appeared on that shot I posted earlier definitely looks like a processing issue, I just wanted to post it to see if anyone else had experienced the same or if it was a possible hardware fault (although I didn't think it was, so was more wondering if anyone had a solution to it software wise).
Hopefully though it is just software and they fix it in later updates. So far I think I'm happy to keep the phone after my few days with it so far, it really is an amazing device, fast, great build quality (fantastic to hold), great sound and what they've done to the OS is nice too, just hoping for root at some point in the future too although I'm getting used to LGs customizations now, so that's not a deal breaker for me yet (it will be more in the future if updates to Android N are slow).