I've got some incredibly bad screen burn with the whole bottom 2 thirds of screen gone yellow and I'm returning phone to Samsung in the freepost envelope they sent but has anyone had experience dealing with Samsung with this to know what to expect?
Doubt they'll replace it under warranty for burn-in, such is the way of the beast with AMOLED screens if you leave the same thing on the screen constantly, but good luck
How did it even became like that? I had an amoled TV for years and it didn't even exhibit this problem even when it's on most of the day...
Riyal said:
How did it even became like that? I had an amoled TV for years and it didn't even exhibit this problem even when it's on most of the day...
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Leaving the same image on the screen constantly, with a TV, the picture is always moving, if OP uses a certain app 24/7, like facebook or something, the majority of that image remains the same, sidebar, top bar, etc etc, only text changes
Basically we're back to the old green screen issues and why we ended up with screensavers on PCs
EDIT - In fact it looks like touchwiz launcher is partially responsible, along with the top notification bar, my guess is OP sets screen timeout to highest, and keeps the screen on the same thing constantly through the day, full brightness likely too
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my guess is OP sets screen timeout to highest, and keeps the screen on the same thing constantly through the day, full brightness likely too
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hence the reason they wont fix it cause its his fault.
and were assumi9ng the reason the android tv didnt do it is because it didnt use amoled
I do use full brightness and most of the use is from Chrome browser and Youtube but the screen is set to a 2 minute timeout so certainly isn't left alone for long periods.
So I'm not using the phone in any abnormal way that would go against any usage terms that maybe in the warranty, and the really dark burning in the middle by any standard could be said the phone is no longer fit for purpose because it's well beyond any acceptable wear and tear.
Just been on the phone to Samsung and they said clearly that the warranty does cover this so soon as I get the chance I'll either go to the Local Samsung store or post it in.
Thanks for the update. Definitely not normal and using your phone is not grounds for disregarding the warranty. Brightness is there to use. There is no disclaimer stating you can harm your phone by making your screen too bright. Where do people get this stuff?
This is the first time since my Nexus 1 that I've seen any phone with burn in. Thought we were all past that.
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There is no disclaimer stating you can harm your phone by making your screen too bright. Where do people get this stuff?
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you dont really need a disclaimer to know that screen burn exists, a simple understanding of science does that. and we were speculating about the warranty issues
Well done Michael P. I have the same issue on my 10 month old Galaxy S7 Edge. I use Google Maps constantly for business purposes, and now have screen burn. Despite Pilot's sarcastic answer, not every one is a super geek with a pre-existing knowledge of Amoled screen inner workings. My BSc degree and Masters were in other subjects, and screen technology has never interested or bothered me. When I buy a product I expect it to work perfectly for at least a year. A clear warning when buying the product saying "do not leave on a static screen for more than X amount of minutes" would have caused me to educate myself on the pitfalls of S7 screens, and Samsung would not be forking get out to send me a new phone free of charge.
I have the same problem
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I've got some incredibly bad screen burn with the whole bottom 2 thirds of screen gone yellow and I'm returning phone to Samsung in the freepost envelope they sent but has anyone had experience dealing with Samsung with this to know what to expect?
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I hope I'm writing in the right place, but I've had the same problem since a few months after buying my S7 edge. I keep my screen at 50% & have a 2 min timeout that I never use. I always turn my phone off when I'm done... force of habit. The top of the screen dimmed greatly at first and then almost immediately after, I've had this ghost keyboard. Ugh. I'm a photog, so editing is a nightmare. I didn't buy the warranty & my 2 yr contract is almost up. I've had this issue for well over a year & had no idea I could do anything. I'm guessing it's too late to complain. I've been so mad about this darn phone for so long. Such a huge disappointment for such an enormous expense. I'm not a phone junkie, but I do use whatsapp quite a bit to talk to my husband when he's away. I have pictures but I'm new and can't find the button to post them. It sure would be nice to get a new phone. I hate this issue. It drives me crazy. I'm sorry to all who are stuck with this yucky problem. Thank you for letting me rant. Have a blessed day, everyone.
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Folks,
After complaining to T-mobile UK about the gap at the top of my G2's screen and a couple of dead pixels (see thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542534) they kindly sent me another within 3 days. Unfortunately though this one has no gap (thanks) there are now 3 noticable dead pixels on the screen (most noticable on startup at t-mobile splash screen).
I just want to know if anyone else has had this problem and get a bead on what others are doing about it. Problem is now I have already had a swap out these guys are now saying the policy is to bring the phone into a t-mobile store and have it sent off to be checked which to me is TOTALLY unreasonable as the handset is supposed to be brand new.. ARRRGGGHH!!! Am I just being REALLY over the top? Should I just have to put up with the dead pixels??
i suppose it really does just depend on how bad they are.
I know you would just be on the edge of HTC's policy on pixels...they usually won't touch anything under four unless they're really obvious
Hmm.. Well there is one which is REALLY noticable during the startup and less so during operation. The other two are not quite as obvious during startup and practically invisible during normal ops. Thing I really want to know is whether or not this is common among users of this phone and they are just living with it as it doesn't really affect the use of the phone or is it just me that this is happening with?
People. If any of you are out there especially if you are on a UK t-mobile contract could you please try switching off your phone then switching it on and check you screen while the splash screen loads and see if you notice any dead pixels or see if you can get a black background and check.
I would be reluctant but prepared to put up with this if it were something which was the norm for the majority of new G2 handsets and really dont want to keep swapping my phone only for the dead pixels to be more noticable on the replacement. I guess it's just a peace of mind in numbers thing.
with current LCD technology, the odd dead pixel here and there is fairly normal, but thankfully not as wide spread as it used to be.
I've not seen any on the ones i have seen, and never had a dead pixel on the HTC built devices i have personally owned (going back to 2003/4), although my one and only PSP, which i bought the day it was released, had a crap load of them and was sold very soon afterwards!
I don't think it is particularly widespread to be honest, but there will always be one or two devices in a run that get a dodgy pixel or two.
have you checked the market to see if there is a pixel conditioning app? I'm sure i saw one somewhere. They don't always work, but it cant hurt to try...sometimes they come unstuck after a while.
oh, and i also have a t-mobile one. None on mine.
Dude.. Fortunately the only guy responding to this post is a guy who is being as helpful as you I can;t say I am even aware that pixel conditioning apps exist.. I'll have a look.
be lucky, i'm actually in a good mood at the moment! i guess it's the prescription painkillers i'm on (legitimately i might add...i'm not some sort of addict) overriding my natural hatred and grumpiness of being at work on a weekend....god bless opiates!
i've already pissed someone here off this morning before they kicked in!!
I bought a sim free Hero from Mobilefun. I'm now on my THIRD Hero due to replacing the last 2. The current one and first didn't have any screen issues but the second one did. As soon as i swithced it on, big bright spots. Sent it back straight away of course, as this is unacceptable.
The current one has a minor cosmetic flaw but I'm keeping it this time
Don't worry about being OTT about this. You pay a lot of money, you want something top notch.
Edit: Incidentally, Mobilefun customer service is the best I've experienced. Both handsets were replaced and in the palm of my hand again within 48 hours!
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People. If any of you are out there especially if you are on a UK t-mobile contract could you please try switching off your phone then switching it on and check you screen while the splash screen loads and see if you notice any dead pixels or see if you can get a black background and check.
I would be reluctant but prepared to put up with this if it were something which was the norm for the majority of new G2 handsets and really dont want to keep swapping my phone only for the dead pixels to be more noticable on the replacement. I guess it's just a peace of mind in numbers thing.
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I have a t-mobile contract hero, I can't see any dead pixels on the splash screen.
There is a tiny gap at the top (ie you can see some copper if you hold it at the right angle to a bright light, but It seems to be the same as all around the rest of the screen and so it doesn't really worry me.
Dude.. As far as the gap in the screen goes there SHOULDN'T be one. I had one on the last handset and changed mine. As I explained this one has some dead pixels but the gap is gone. I repeat it should NOT be there. All manner of dust and debri will eventually get stuck in there and on the underside of the display I am sure. If you can change it I certainly would. I think I will be attempting to change mine again (sigh)
definitely should not be a gap.
my first one does not have one, i'm waiting to see what the state of the second one is when i get home this afternoon. i hope it's ok.
I have a dead pixel as well in the top left corner but it's only noticeable on the startup screen so I don't mind. It's actually quite common with LCDs, my girlfriends iPhone has a couple and I've had phones in the past with some. You can google nearly any phone and find people dead pixels..palm pre, iphone 3gs, blackberry etc. You can return it but then you run the risk of getting a phone with other issues or more dead pixels.
my HTC Hero has 3 dead pixels but they dont bother me at all .
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be lucky, i'm actually in a good mood at the moment! i guess it's the prescription painkillers i'm on (legitimately i might add...i'm not some sort of addict) overriding my natural hatred and grumpiness of being at work on a weekend....god bless opiates!
i've already pissed someone here off this morning before they kicked in!!
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Don't worry rhedgehog, I've already forgiven your faux pas this morning.
Sorry, post completely irrelevant to your issue!
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Hmm.. Well there is one which is REALLY noticable during the startup and less so during operation. The other two are not quite as obvious during startup and practically invisible during normal ops. Thing I really want to know is whether or not this is common among users of this phone and they are just living with it as it doesn't really affect the use of the phone or is it just me that this is happening with?
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You know i thought i had dead pixels at startup under the hero word, but when i loaded a pixel fixer app to check the dead pixes by cycleing different colours on the screen nothing showed im convinced the start up animation is glitched and makes it look like dead pixels!! get the app and check!!
I have a dead pixel too and mailed to the company from where i bought it. I mean, did pay a lot of money for it, 440€, so i expect a device wich has no dead pixels or gaps at all!! .
Let you know how things go.
cheers
I have 3 dead pixels on the startup screen one in the very top right. I don't notice them when the phone is in normal operation. if I get anymore I will be tempted to send. it back.
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Don't worry rhedgehog, I've already forgiven your faux pas this morning.
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shut up Yrrep, or im snapping your SIM again!!! see you at work in the morning
Sorry, now back to the topic....
second g2 arrived and no gap or dead pixels on that one either.
Right, I've decided to ring T mobile about replacing my Hero due to the gap. Will it be an issue that it's more than 7 days since I recieved my phone?
T-Mobile will usually try and be funny with anyone requesting the return of a handset after 7 days but just stick to your guns.. The item is faulty but not instantly noticable. If you catch the rigt person you will be ok.. Just try calling back a few times if necessary. I think half the time I get stuff from them I because i hassle them so much.
By the way.. Can anyone recommend a good pixel testing/fixing app??
I just took delivery of my SGS2 yesterday, and I gotta say I absolutely love this phone. Coming from an LG eXpo with WinMo 6.5 and never having used Android, it doesn't even feel like a phone. Plus with all the easy integration with my Google accounts, I've never had a smoother transition to a new device before. All this makes it all the more difficult for me to have to send it back...
I'm not sure if anyone else has encountered this problem, but it looks like my phone came pre-packaged with burn in or something in the form of a dark circle near the upper right side of my screen. I've attached some photos of what it looks like.
I noticed this abnormality in the first 10 minutes or so of using the phone while looking at some photos on my Picasa account. I almost feel like this phone could have been a refurb unit, or the screen was reused or something. In fact, there appears to be more substantial burn in than I can photograph, as there are several other places where I can see strange distortions. Most, if not all, only show up when the brightness is less than 100%. I'd thought maybe it was some widget that caused the burn in, but I haven't been able to figure out which one it could be.
Anywho, I've already arranged an RMA thru Expansys-USA, and they did so without even asking any questions after my email with photos of the problem. So far I've received amazing support from Expansys-USA and definitely recommend them. Also going to see if I can request a replacement sent before I send back this one so I won't be without a phone during the shipping time, something they mention is possible in the RMA email (though they do charge you for it, to be refunded once they get the defective unit back and inspect it).
Would be interesting to see if anyone else has this problem. If there's already another post on this subject, sorry about this new one... didn't see any when I searched tho.
I can see the same thing on mine if I put it on the lowest brightness setting and display a grey image. Nowhere near as pronounced as on yours though, have to really really look for it, so can't be arsed to do anything about it.
Interesting that it's a perfect circle though, could it be just above the CPU or something?
Nope, haven't got that circle on mine at all.
Maybe an assembly worker lost their wedding ring, lol...
You'll be fine, it's an RMA for sure!
Defo a faulty phone
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I believe that mark is from the vacuum suction cup on the assembly line from the automated machine that handles positioning the display component. It technically should disappear over time, but I don't know how long.
I don't think it's the CPU, though to be honest I'm not sure where it is under the screen. There is that odd gold-colored sensor or whatever under that area, I think.
If it's a wedding ring, maybe this phone's worth more than the sticker price! haha
Vacuum cup huh... that's pretty bad if it's damaging the screen while doing that. I don't want to wait and see if it will disappear. If I do wait and it doesn't go away I'll be out $725 on a phone with a screen that'll constantly bug me.
Kinda funny, as I was looking at the photos I attached, I saw two rings... one in the photo, and the real one. Startled me when I first saw it.
I didnt have the same problem as you but i had line banding or something on my one.. i had to replace it 4 times then noticed it overheated+smell coming from it.. so i just returned it and got my money back.
Just be aware that you might get another faulty phone.. If i was you i would wait till it comes out in the US.
That sucks, and it's not good that other people are having some issues as well. Good to hear that Expansys is honoring their agreements though
This is why I don't import anymore
RogerPodacter said:
I believe that mark is from the vacuum suction cup on the assembly line from the automated machine that handles positioning the display component. It technically should disappear over time, but I don't know how long.
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Could well be spot on. I don't know if I'm imagining this, but I'm having more and more trouble seeing this ring on my display heh (had the phone for 9 days now).
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I didnt have the same problem as you but i had line banding or something on my one.. i had to replace it 4 times then noticed it overheated+smell coming from it.. so i just returned it and got my money back.
Just be aware that you might get another faulty phone.. If i was you i would wait till it comes out in the US.
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Man, that's really unlucky! Knock on wood, I hope I don't get another bad one. However I'm not sure waiting will do me much good. History has shown me that branded devices tend to have a lot of crap on them and lack certain features at times, and I don't have as much time as I used to to keep up with the scene to make the phone operate better all the time. Also, I'm contract-free with unlimited data on AT&T, and I don't like being locked into contracts. This isn't my first non-US phone, though. I'm happy to pay the extra money so long as it means I don't have to sign a contract.
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This is why I don't import anymore
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From the Expansys-USA thread, sounds like they'll ship the phone back to the UK to have it serviced for you if it ever goes bad. This doesn't sound uncommon, either, as I've had a friend here ship his JP Xbox 360 back to Japan to have it serviced (with a another friend's JP address), and another friend in Japan had his laptop sent back here to have it serviced. Also, there's always the chance a non-import one will be bad, too. Luck of the draw, I guess, and perhaps early-adopter woes. lol
Got my replacement on Saturday, been playing with it ever since to see if I could find any further problems. Definitely no circle this time around, and some of the vertical banding I saw on my old phone in the notification screen is gone, but now has some very slight horizontal banding. Not a deal-breaker tho, so this one's staying with me. Also, hard to tell but I think the yellow/dark left screen problem is present, but so slight I can barely detect it if it's there and not a trick of the eye.
Gotta thank Expansys-USA for their great customer service. I'll definitely order from them again.
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I just took delivery of my SGS2 yesterday, and I gotta say I absolutely love this phone. Coming from an LG eXpo with WinMo 6.5 and never having used Android, it doesn't even feel like a phone. Plus with all the easy integration with my Google accounts, I've never had a smoother transition to a new device before. All this makes it all the more difficult for me to have to send it back...
I'm not sure if anyone else has encountered this problem, but it looks like my phone came pre-packaged with burn in or something in the form of a dark circle near the upper right side of my screen. I've attached some photos of what it looks like.
I noticed this abnormality in the first 10 minutes or so of using the phone while looking at some photos on my Picasa account. I almost feel like this phone could have been a refurb unit, or the screen was reused or something. In fact, there appears to be more substantial burn in than I can photograph, as there are several other places where I can see strange distortions. Most, if not all, only show up when the brightness is less than 100%. I'd thought maybe it was some widget that caused the burn in, but I haven't been able to figure out which one it could be.
Anywho, I've already arranged an RMA thru Expansys-USA, and they did so without even asking any questions after my email with photos of the problem. So far I've received amazing support from Expansys-USA and definitely recommend them. Also going to see if I can request a replacement sent before I send back this one so I won't be without a phone during the shipping time, something they mention is possible in the RMA email (though they do charge you for it, to be refunded once they get the defective unit back and inspect it).
Would be interesting to see if anyone else has this problem. If there's already another post on this subject, sorry about this new one... didn't see any when I searched tho.
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I too have this issue at the bottom left of my screen, But i donno how to go about it, should i go ahead and ask for a replacement?? what did u do
Hardly noticable though
Tj,
I too have this issue at the bottom left of my screen, But i donno how to go about it, should i go ahead and ask for a replacement?? what did u do
Hardly noticable though
I would have it exchanged for another if you can. I had mine exchanged, but since I went with the cheap option the whole ordeal took almost a month (slow shipping). My replacement doesn't have a defect, but it's possible I have the yellow tint problem others have been reporting. I don't see it tho, and if it's there it doesn't bother me.
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Greetings fellow Tab 7.7 Owners.
Today I stopped by the Verizon store to check on an issue I previously posted regarding the proximity sensor (I do not there there is one installed in the i815 despite the Samsung website claims to the contrary).
So anyway, I picked up the Tab 7.7 on display and opened the market to install an app that uses the proximity sensor (it did not work BTW).
!!! However... !!!
While in the Market, big as life, I could easily see the home screen image burned into the display. I opened several other apps and all had the same effect. I even rebooted the device to see if it might be some software bug that was ghosting the image somehow, but the problem persisted. The home screen is simply burned into this device. Now this probably stays on 24 hours per day however, I was surprised to see that modern devices could suffer from this ancient problem.
So...
If you leave your device plugged in for some time, be sure to let the screen time out. (Settings>Applications>Stay Awake> leave unchecked)
I just decided to get rid of both of my Samsung docks I purchased.
Doug M.
All of my amoled devices have burn in and they are all set on lowest brightness. I try to minimize the burn in on my p6800 by hiding the status bar.
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dwmackay said:
Greetings fellow Tab 7.7 Owners.
Today I stopped by the Verizon store to check on an issue I previously posted regarding the proximity sensor (I do not there there is one installed in the i815 despite the Samsung website claims to the contrary).
So anyway, I picked up the Tab 7.7 on display and opened the market to install an app that uses the proximity sensor (it did not work BTW).
!!! However... !!!
While in the Market, big as life, I could easily see the home screen image burned into the display. I opened several other apps and all had the same effect. I even rebooted the device to see if it might be some software bug that was ghosting the image somehow, but the problem persisted. The home screen is simply burned into this device. Now this probably stays on 24 hours per day however, I was surprised to see that modern devices could suffer from this ancient problem.
So...
If you leave your device plugged in for some time, be sure to let the screen time out. (Settings>Applications>Stay Awake> leave unchecked)
I just decided to get rid of both of my Samsung docks I purchased.
Doug M.
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My iPad 3 almost 18 hours a day screen is on didn't got any problem and yes I'm very careful with p6800 screen is very cheap quality
Perhaps you should check out this
http://m.gizmodo.com/5892912/samsung-makes-the-new-ipads-screen-because-no-one-else-could
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irmani said:
My iPad 3 almost 18 hours a day screen is on didn't got any problem and yes I'm very careful with p6800 screen is very cheap quality
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What a tool. ipad3 uses Samsung screens. All of the same quality
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My iPad 3 almost 18 hours a day screen is on didn't got any problem and yes I'm very careful with p6800 screen is very cheap quality
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SAMOLED is different with your LED backlit IPAD display.. it's not a matter of Cheap Vs Apple premium, if your IPAD have the same AMOLED screen, even thought it's an Apple, it'll exhibit burn in issues as well.
Strange that my tablet is on all day as my desktop clock and live album and gaming/movie at night, but still no burn in appeared yet (except that mystical faint circles that every unit has). I think you could just take yours to local service center and spill all your guts out to force them to have screen replaced. Just my little two cents.
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My iPad 3 almost 18 hours a day screen is on didn't got any problem and yes I'm very careful with p6800 screen is very cheap quality
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crap argument of an apple fanboy: ipad uses IPS-LCD, 7.7 features AMOLED (hd plus blabla).
in contrary: amoled is the FAR more expensive tech, although it tends to burn in (which is tech immanent and can't be eliminated totally)!
inform yourself before posting such nonsense!
Hi boys.
Maybe we should shut this thread down. No need to start a pointless flame war.
My only intention was to let people know that the screen burn-in on this device can certainly happen as I saw it very clearly on the in-store demo unit.
I just thought people might want to know so you can moderate your usage patterns to avoid the problem.
Doug M.
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Hi boys.
Maybe we should shut this thread down. No need to start a pointless flame war.
My only intention was to let people know that the screen burn-in on this device can certainly happen as I saw it very clearly on the in-store demo unit.
I just thought people might want to know so you can moderate your usage patterns to avoid the problem.
Doug M.
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Oh I read yours wrong...I thought you said YOUR unit has burnt-in. :laugh:
Nevertheless I think your post should remain open. I'm quite amazed that how quickly someone would jump into any post to compare Apple's product against everything, just to be shot by facts. This isn't bad at all.
I bought my Moto X around the end of September and about two weeks after getting it, I had a screen burn-in from the notification bar and navigation bar. I let Motorola know and they happily replaced it. However few weeks after owning the second one I experienced the issue again and I let them know. They told me they were stunned and that I was literally the only person who had reported the issue.
What I am wondering is if anyone else has experienced this. I know it is a common problem with AMOLEDs, but I didn't expect it to happen so soon.
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I have never seen screen burn in on any phone. Not sure I would notice it in the notification and navigation areas since they always display the same things.
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Screen burn in after 2 weeks? On 2 devices? Come on now...
Love your avatar BTW. I can quote that entire movie.
The galaxy nexus had that issue
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Love your avatar BTW. I can quote that entire movie.
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Me to !! Hehe
Sa sens le Rooting icite !!
I saw burn in on a display model at Best Buy. It was the big Motorola M logo that displays at the boot animation. If you looked at a white web page or any solid, but light colored image, you could see the ghostly circle the size of a quarter complete with the swishy M in the middle of the screen. Got them to open a second demo model and boot it up so I could see a clean screen and bring it to their attention. Weird thing to have burned in, too.
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Op did you leave both phones display on for 2weeks straight at 100% brightness? Lol
I have had mine for 2 months, do at least 4 hours sot daily, most of which is on reddit and xda, so nav and status are almost always static... I have zero sign of burn in.
I had it pretty good on my s3, but I blame ingress for that... Being outside playing so much and had it at 100% brightness because that screen was so dark... Even then it took at least 2 months before I saw any burn in and I was playing A LOT!
Can't imagine how you would get burn in on two devices, each in two weeks... Seems like that's a feat that you have to try and do, lol.
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Screen burn in after 2 weeks? On 2 devices? Come on now...
Love your avatar BTW. I can quote that entire movie.
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What do you thing the man is making this up? Come on Now!
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What do you thing the man is making this up? Come on Now!
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I'd be hard pressed to believe this as well... I've had numerous amoled devices and abused the crap out of them and even then, it took months to get any sort it noticeable burn in... If it were one device then I wouldn't second guess it, chalk it up to manufacture defect... But two in a row? I'm curious as to what the op uses his phones for and if he ever turns off the screens... Even store display models take a while to get burn in and they are on 3-4 times as much as a typical power user.
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scottjb said:
I have never seen screen burn in on any phone. Not sure I would notice it in the notification and navigation areas since they always display the same things.
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I'll have to send you a pic of my GNex then, so you can see the perfect "ghost" of a Pandora logo in the middle of the screen from running the display full time in my car dock.
I also remember similar complaints when the GNex first came out, of people claiming they were getting burn-in on the notification bar area, and I thought they were ridiculous at the time. Now, not so much.
It happened to my gnex, so I'm not surprised that it happened on this phone too.
I'm not saying you're faking it, but 2 weeks is a little too soon for it to be happening. The gnex only had the issue after a year or so. Are you keeping the display on all the time when charging or something?
They will eventually burn in if you set the screen to never time out and leave it displaying the same thing for hours or days on end. Most store models have some level of burn it. In normal use cases it should never be an issue though.
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It happened to my gnex, so I'm not surprised that it happened on this phone too.
I'm not saying you're faking it, but 2 weeks is a little too soon for it to be happening. The gnex only had the issue after a year or so. Are you keeping the display on all the time when charging or something?
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It happened with my GNex too.
Main reason I can't use another amoled phone
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Just passing by, but 2 weeks is entirely possible.
If you keep using the phone with the notification bar displayed and then two weeks later open a full screen browser, you will most likely notice burn in if you look close enough.
It's extremely easy to do.
I bought an S3 from ebay with real bad screen burn in (that the seller didn't mention). She actually didn't believe me and accused me of scamming her until I replied back with a contact name and number that was burned into the top of the screen from the messaging app (the keyboard was also burned in, I guess she constantly texted this person).
I think burn in is more likely to happen when brightness is higher. I had a GNex and GS3 that never got any sort of burn in but I also rarely had the brightness above 50%.
you know, now that I look, I have it too. It's faint, and I thought it was from the Nova Launcher beta, but ****, this is screen burn in. Damn.
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I don't even use my phone that much. Generally around 1.5 or 2 hours screen time per day. Brightness is about half. Kinda crazy.
Recommend using an app such as:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.feetstech.screenburn&hl=en
to minimize this. Most plasma TV's have something like this built in as they are also prone to burn-in. Use it for 10 minutes every once in a while (even if you don't see burn in) and it should prevent it.
I got screen burn in on my S4 after 2 months. But I also blame ingress for that. I have a X coming and hope to minimize that by not playing ingress so much or play on another device. One thing that I do for the status bar to help out is with nova launcher I have it set to swipe the notification bar on top away. I try to leave it off the screen as much as possible. But yes amoled screens suck for burn in.
I usually turn my phone to the 270 degree position to have the navigation bars switch sides every now and then. That helps a bit.
And with AMOLEDs, it's more important to turn off the screen when not in use rather than let it time out. I have mine set to 10 minutes, but I usually manually turn off the screen because I know AMOLEDs are prone to burn-in over time.
Anyone having issues with ghosting on there v20?? Any fix if so r is it Rom related. In on vs995 weta Rom 5.0.7 7.0
I'm starting to have issues with image retention on mine.
I'm stock unrooted.
I wonder if this is covered under warranty.. it's not super annoying but still.
I am having a curious issue with the second screen. Under bright light or sunlight, the top right corner of my screen starts to flicker. Well, the brightness increases and decreases. At the beginning quite slowly and then at a higher pace. However, when I'm indoors it doesn't seem to happen, or at least not too foten.
I've tried with and without automatic brightness. I have also tried installing Lux and the issue still persists.
What I realised is that the flickering comes from the backlight of the second screen, and if I disable it, problem solved. I might Have to give it a hard reset and hope is not a hardware problem.
Has anyone experienced the same?
I posted something similar a while ago on this topic. On my left side of the screen I could see what seemed to be screen burn or something. It would be a yellowish tint that would display the keyboard and part of a screen from the app. But it seemed to be the same app everytime. I never found a solution, I had to turn the phone in for a different reason. The ffc just stopped working and would freeze my phone up.
Screen Retention\Ghosting
kbrn said:
I'm starting to have issues with image retention on mine.
I wonder if this is covered under warranty...
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Datblkbro said:
Anyone having issues with ghosting on there v20?? Any fix if so r is it Rom related.
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Same problem.
Stock, no root.
Is covered under warranty?
Did you solve the problem?
yurasik_687 said:
Same problem.
Stock, no root.
Is covered under warranty?
Did you solve the problem?
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I haven't tried to take the phone to see if it can be fixed, but I have done some research and after reading many posts of people having either the G4,V10 and V20 most have been honored under warranty having their screens replaced but the problem comes back, some people claim having their screens more than one time.
I think I can live with it.. I don't wanna risk having the phone scratched or damaged somehow by the person making repairs (I like to keep my phones in mint condition) and I have a Huge OCD problem lol
I think joining XDA is an indicator of having a degree of OCD
Although I'd class mine as low I'd not be happy with the retention exhibited in those pics.
Thankfully my V20 hasn't presented any inherrent problems so far, just the odd temporary ones that happen when modding, but they're soon remedied.
Since @emdroidle gave us root for the H990ds its been great having the chance to open it up and explore more of its potential.
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Same problem.
Stock, no root.
Is covered under warranty?
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As far as I've read this is just a quirk of these LCD screens that LG uses on their phones. It should go away pretty quick as the only time mine shows up like that is when the screen brightness is all the way or very bright for like 5 or 10 minutes. Mine goes away after 5 or 10 minutes.
Download sfilter from play store activate it at 10 % and image ghosting will go away ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpmiowtPh_A&feature=youtu.be
Here's my retention.
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I haven't tried to take the phone to see if it can be fixed, but I have done some research and after reading many posts of people having either the G4,V10 and V20 most have been honored under warranty having their screens replaced but the problem comes back, some people claim having their screens more than one time.
I think I can live with it.. I don't wanna risk having the phone scratched or damaged somehow by the person making repairs (I like to keep my phones in mint condition) and I have a Huge OCD problem lol
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I was looking into the Warranty as well and just read that it can take up to 4 weeks to inspect and repair a unit, so no mobile for maybe 4 weeks or more and I'm not even sure they will accept the retention as a fault of the mobile itself, but give me the blame for it as there are some minor surface scratches from normal daily use.
So it seems the warranty is pretty much to the bin and reading stories from others about sending there phones with issues does not really make me want to send it back either. Who knows how long, and if declined giving me the blame, what a waste of time it has been. feel like iv Wasted enough time already.
They told me to make a full factory reset, which would of cause not solve the issue at all as I already knew - but I did it and sent the video of the retention afterwards - then I was told to look for scratches and I send them a video and 2 pics of what I could find and now being pointed out that maybe if they find out it is from damage that it just might be send back. Damage... Got to give me a break.
I'm not even sure what they would do with it if they accept the fault - would they begin to toy around with it or would they send me a new phone out of the box.
Is it worth it or not... I'm thinking...
For a +500 Euro phone - retention/ghosting should not happen and yet it does. First phone I ever experiences this issue.
I think I'm on the Whine wagon at the moment, sorry guys - just a little annoyed.
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I was looking into the Warranty as well and just read that it can take up to 4 weeks to inspect and repair a unit, so no mobile for maybe 4 weeks or more and I'm not even sure they will accept the retention as a fault of the mobile itself, but give me the blame for it as there are some minor surface scratches from normal daily use.
So it seems the warranty is pretty much to the bin and reading stories from others about sending there phones with issues does not really make me want to send it back either. Who knows how long, and if declined giving me the blame, what a waste of time it has been. feel like iv Wasted enough time already.
They told me to make a full factory reset, which would of cause not solve the issue at all as I already knew - but I did it and sent the video of the retention afterwards - then I was told to look for scratches and I send them a video and 2 pics of what I could find and now being pointed out that maybe if they find out it is from damage that it just might be send back. Damage... Got to give me a break.
I'm not even sure what they would do with it if they accept the fault - would they begin to toy around with it or would they send me a new phone out of the box.
Is it worth it or not... I'm thinking...
For a +500 Euro phone - retention/ghosting should not happen and yet it does. First phone I ever experiences this issue.
I think I'm on the Whine wagon at the moment, sorry guys - just a little annoyed.
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I did ended up replacing my phone, not under LG warranty though I paid 60 bucks to Sprint to get it swapped. I thought it was better than sending out my phone to LG and wait weeks..
Convenience was the what made me toss the 60 bucks for a new unit.
Though a month later I switched to T-Mobile and upgraded to the V30+
They paid the rest of my installments with Sprint which was half the cost of 2 V20's and also got to keep them.
I use my V20 as a multimedia device now.
kbrn said:
I did ended up replacing my phone, not under LG warranty though I paid 60 bucks to Sprint to get it swapped. I thought it was better than sending out my phone to LG and wait weeks..
Convenience was the what made me toss the 60 bucks for a new unit.
Though a month later I switched to T-Mobile and upgraded to the V30+
They paid the rest of my installments with Sprint which was half the cost of 2 V20's and also got to keep them.
I use my V20 as a multimedia device now.
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Nice - seems like I'm not going to get much from the warranty on the screen issue and still not sure if I should send it back as I'm afraid they do something stupid to it. Well, if my phone melted down at some point I would still buy an V20 in replacement. Battery and SD card is just a win for me even with all the phones faults. Just so sad that LG did not fix a better screen for the V20 in regards of getting Ghosting/Retention.
Anyway - I just tried one of the fixes I found without jail breaking the phone and it does help a little but far from solved the issue at all. I have ghosting/retention all over the screen now and most likely just going to get worse over time as it has from the beginning of it.
I think the image retention is a bug. It randomly happens on mine. At first I thought it was a crappy screen but then it went away. It will even show dark image retention like using xda. And most of my retention around the inside 1/4 of the screen.
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Aymenitoo said:
Download sfilter from play store activate it at 10 % and image ghosting will go away
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Sadly did not work here. Still have ghosting. 20% won't do either - il try 30%.
Ok I was getting ghosting which has been getting worse and wore the past month but in the past 2 weeks its been getting really bad on both displays, ontop of that my phone was dying in 20-25% range and going up to 100% charge just to drop like 10 minutes later to like 50% probably just the battery idk
I sent my phone in and here is what they marked on the warranty page
Symptom: Software failure
Repair: Download new software
I honestly hope they don't think its because I wasn't on the latest version of android because I kept putting it off or i'm gonna be pissed, especially since my warranty ends 3/18/2018 and these 2 issues have slowly been getting worse.
Hi!
Here is a working fix if your device is rooted.
Link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/lg-v20-screen-burn-fixed-t3661631
so is this an LG LCD specific issue ? I am just curious when I switch phones should I consider AMOLED / OLED or stick with LCD but maybe a different vendor ?
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so is this an LG LCD specific issue ? I am just curious when I switch phones should I consider AMOLED / OLED or stick with LCD but maybe a different vendor ?
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The culprit behind this is low contrast with high blue-output or cooler color temperature. If you are rooted, you can easily tone down the blue channel by a count of 20 (out of 256) and all is good. Also you don't have to use the phone as maximum brightness all the time, the screen itself is way too bright even for the least level.
2ndly, this ghosting is temporary and develops over time of use. It goes away for LCD.
OLED screens suffer from the permanent ghosting aka burn-in, though its coming over time is delayed by quality and improvement of the manufacturing process. Honestly, OLED's have higher saturation, more vibrance, higher contrast which makes them appeal to human eye but it comes at a cost.
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The culprit behind this is low contrast with high blue-output or cooler color temperature. If you are rooted, you can easily tone down the blue channel by a count of 20 (out of 256) and all is good. Also you don't have to use the phone as maximum brightness all the time, the screen itself is way too bright even for the least level.
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Oh cool. thanks for explaining that! I am not rooted... 1. too nervous of causing issues after root .. 2. mine isn't rootable (on most recent security patch)..
so is there anything I can do to help with the blue output?
dark_prince said:
2ndly, this ghosting is temporary and develops over time of use. It goes away for LCD.
OLED screens suffer from the permanent ghosting aka burn-in, though its coming over time is delayed by quality and improvement of the manufacturing process. Honestly, OLED's have higher saturation, more vibrance, higher contrast which makes them appeal to human eye but it comes at a cost.
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yeah that seems to be what i've read too... I just typically keep my phones for a while and burn in or ghosting worries me...