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How do I get at&t to fix their tower?

When I first joined At&t I was pleasantly surprised at data speeds I got at my office and home. 120 - 200 KBps at work and 300 - 500 KBps at home.
However beginning in February network speeds have dropped to just 2 - 8 KBps at my office. Network speeds remain unchanged at home.
I have called At&t on numerous occasions requesting that they repair the local tower to no avail.
It will be one month since the tower stopped working on March 7th.
I am at the beginning of a 2 yr contract. What are my options.
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Are there any coworkers/colleagues with the sake problem, or just you? Because you can't do much on your own, but when there are others with the same problem you can call at&t again.
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My co-worker has an iPhone 4 with at&t and when I asked her to run speedtest.net she got the same results. But she doesn't use her phone for data so she isn't really affected.

keep calling!!!

keep on it then they will get it done

Well I suspect that at&t will never fix the tower. Regardless they have until 3/10/11 or i'll be leaving.
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Climb the tower yourself. Fixit!

androidcues said:
Climb the tower yourself. Fixit!
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Very funny. I probably would if I could.
I decided to run speedtest while taking a walk near my job and I have discovered that the data dead zone covers most of little Italy in the Bronx.
Oh and i'll be joining you at Tmobile .
I don't like what I have been hearing about Verizons plans to arbitrarily throttle data speeds over it LTE network.

AT&T
I've yet to find a way to inspire AT&T to fix small problems. Good luck with a tower.

actually there is something you can do yourself. im actually an AT&T employee, i work in a rural area, so we get many complaints about signal strength, if you actually call the big office, and tell them your situation, they will send you a "micro cell". what that is, is basically a cellphone amplifier for your house, it will boost signal strength. were currently the only US company to offer this. i hope this helps
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feel free to check out more info here
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/why/3gmicrocell/

soraxd said:
actually there is something you can do yourself. im actually an AT&T employee, i work in a rural area, so we get many complaints about signal strength, if you actually call the big office, and tell them your situation, they will send you a "micro cell". what that is, is basically a cellphone amplifier for your house, it will boost signal strength. were currently the only US company to offer this. i hope this helps
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http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/why/3gmicrocell/
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Yea, that's cool, but what I suspect is happening in this guy's case is over-saturation of the AT&T network which is a common problem. I was with AT&T from like 1994 until 20010 when I finally ditched them for Verizon. (Funny how I as soon as I switched, 3G was turned on in my area) Where I live, I'm in a rural area and with 3G speeds under AT&T during off peak hours, I can see speeds up to 3Mbps and higher, but during the day you can just forget getting anything done. If I go into town, I'm hosed constantly.
I have family that works for AT&T as well as myself doing some consulting work for them, and their business plan in my area just sucks.

It appears that at&t has instituted a partial fix network speeds have increased from only 2 - 8 KB/s to 30 - 45 KB/s.
Which suggest that they have restored 3g but have yet to restore 4g.
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At&t let me walk from my contract by providing non existent service..There response where that they were installing new towers very close to my house and they wouldn't be functional for 9 months..

Nine months to install a tower??? What is at&t smoking?
I was on vacation a few years ago and I watched Sprint install a new tower in 3 days and initialize it a week later.
I would have stayed with Sprintpcs but there service is very weak where I work.
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speedy1979 said:
My co-worker has an iPhone 4 with at&t and when I asked her to run speedtest.net she got the same results. But she doesn't use her phone for data so she isn't really affected.
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more of this. iphones take screen shots when the power and home buttons are pressed at the same time. have a number of these people send you the screen shots and then send them all to at&t. its really the only way to do it. do it relentlessly. do not stop emailing them until they respond with a real answer and not an automated answer.
ps- i know you said it doesnt really effect her because she doesnt really use her phone for data. keep in mind that it doesnt really matter, and you can still use her screenshot as evidence that you are not receiving the full service you pay for every month.

Thanks for all your replies. The tower has apparently been fixed or a new one added. Network speeds have actually increased to 220 - 300 KB/s.
So i guess switching to tmobile wont be necessary after all.
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disreguard this , i didnt see the last post (xda should allow users to delete their posts within 5-10minutes imo)

speedy1979 said:
It appears that at&t has instituted a partial fix network speeds have increased from only 2 - 8 KB/s to 30 - 45 KB/s.
Which suggest that they have restored 3g but have yet to restore 4g.
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4g is fast. thanks

Afraid to stay with Sprint and get the EVO 3D.

Wow i really do want this phone badly. But i'm just so afraid of sprints 3g coverage. I can barely watch a you tube video now. Anything that involves data sucks. What good is a phone if the coverage is horrable. Plus now they are really going to get hammered with to many people on the network for them to handle. Anyone else afraid of this?

I feel the same way. I live in phoenix and their 3g here (at least around my job and home) sucks balls. My friends edge tmobile phone gets better speeds.

No cause my sprints coverage has been great
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Sprint in Sacramento is kick-ass. I'm not worried.

drmacinyasha said:
Sprint in Sacramento is kick-ass. I'm not worried.
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+1 for sactown always have full bars

I posted this in another thread but it applies here too. I get crappy 3G in my area and no 4G. They are so focused on bringing 3D phones but we can't even upload/stream regular vids to YouTube with their ****ty network. Why not roll out 4G in more cities and beef it up first? T-mobile is turning up the heat with 40mb in a few cities. This proves that sprint could turn it up as well if they wanted to.
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mob...mpaign=Feed:+androidcentral+(Android+Central)
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I do wish that the new Evo did have the LTE radio, as rumored, but I get 5Mbps in my apartment on 4G, so I'm not going to complain too much. And I have no issues with my 3G in this area, either.

The thing of it is guys, is what are our options? AT&T-Mobile or Verizon. Both with data caps, sub-par customer service(at least from my experience with the GF's iphone) and high rates. There's really no other choice.
That being said, sprint absolutely needs to step up their network. My evo will never connect to 4G. i can be sitting in downtown Dallas, TX, right in the middle of the alleged 4G coverage area and never connect. Its worthless.

I've never had an issue with 3G. Wimax is another thing. It's mostly good but I hardly use it for anything. I'm almost always in Wifi when I want to download a big file anyway. Pretty sure they are going to eventually add LTE support to their towers since Wimax is ok for cheaply blanketing an area in Wifi-like coverage but isn't so great in big buildings and they are dependent on Clearwire's oversubscribed network.
For all the talk of "why are they worrying about 3D phones and stuff like that", they need to stay up on the flashy new handsets because that is what gets them subscribers. This is their chance to really make or break their company with the playing field narrowing soon. AT&T proved with the iPhone that folks will put up with all kinds of crap for a must-have handset so they need to keep putting out exclusives that stand out in the market in order to stay attractive to customers.
Moving to another company would cost me a lot more per month and add a data cap so I am not going anywhere soon. I used to have T-Mobile to fall back on if Sprint ever pissed me off but with them being bought up, it's time to double down on Sprint.

Since when does VZW have a data cap? And I dont mean some data cap that "may" come at some point down the road. At this point the data is still unlimited.

I live in KC, which is basically saying the Sprint HQ (overland park is a division of KC) and the service here could def be better. 3g is no too bad, unless you go to Overland Park. Which is funny, because your IN the campus, and service blows. 4g... you pretty much have to be downtown to really make it "better" than 3g. I too find it odd that t-mo can ramp up 3g speeds to topple our 4g. Co worker has tmo and he dominates me in d/l speed. Somehow for him that equates to his mytouch slide 4g being better than my evo, but then again he does have a wicked self idolize-ing issue.

SilverStone641 said:
The thing of it is guys, is what are our options? AT&T-Mobile or Verizon. Both with data caps, sub-par customer service(at least from my experience with the GF's iphone) and high rates. There's really no other choice.
That being said, sprint absolutely needs to step up their network. My evo will never connect to 4G. i can be sitting in downtown Dallas, TX, right in the middle of the alleged 4G coverage area and never connect. Its worthless.
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what part of downtown? i can sit over by the opera house and get 4g.

Ok guys, relax. It's one of two things if you are getting slow 3g speeds.
First, Sprint is actually growing again. In some areas it's growing so much that the existing network is at capacity. It's being addressed.
Or, it's a bug with some phones on 3.70 or 3.70 based ROMs. It's being addressed in the next update (not sure if it's going to be gingerbread or not)

clamknuckle said:
Ok guys, relax. It's one of two things if you are getting slow 3g speeds.
First, Sprint is actually growing again. In some areas it's growing so much that the existing network is at capacity. It's being addressed.
Or, it's a bug with some phones on 3.70 or 3.70 based ROMs. It's being addressed in the next update (not sure if it's going to be gingerbread or not)
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Not disagreeing at all with your points, but the max capacity is what the op is saying he's/she's afraid of. I've seen extremely slow coverage expansion of 4g in KC, while other carries have been going hard at it. It's doubtful they are expanding 3g much anymore since 4g is the "new baby." I like Sprint don't get me wrong, but if the op is more concerned with coverage, and the fact that we face $10 a month for 4g coverage, he may very well be better off with another carrier.

You all act like Sprint could revamp their entire network overnight if they wanted. I know for fact they are working on it, and I see signs of improvement all the time. I can get 2Mb downloads now on 3g in several locations in my city where 2-3 months ago I was lucky to get 200k. Maybe they could make people happier faster in the short term by taking shortcuts, but it looks like they're doing it right. So have patience or gtfo.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19

xviiivx said:
You all act like Sprint could revamp their entire network overnight if they wanted. I know for fact they are working on it, and I see signs of improvement all the time. I can get 2Mb downloads now on 3g in several locations in my city where 2-3 months ago I was lucky to get 200k. Maybe they could make people happier faster in the short term by taking shortcuts, but it looks like they're doing it right. So have patience or gtfo.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19
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Well if it's ok in your city then that should be ok for everyone worldwide then. Try growing up before posting please.

brownhornet said:
Since when does VZW have a data cap? And I dont mean some data cap that "may" come at some point down the road. At this point the data is still unlimited.
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lol there unlimited, but we can and have canceled customers for using more then 5 gb a month without a tethering plan unlimited?

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lol there unlimited, but we can and have canceled customers for using more then 5 gb a month without a tethering plan unlimited?
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Supposedly Sprint also has a "cap." Never seen it myself, but that "rumor" has gone around a bit.

I feel the exact same way. My 3g is terrible, I get anywhere from 200-700 MAX DOWN and about 400 UP. No 4g at all. :/
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jlechner said:
Well if it's ok in your city then that should be ok for everyone worldwide then. Try growing up before posting please.
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Try growing up?? WTF??? Did you not click on the link to see that I was trying to provide some hope for people that are not in a good data area?
I did not even say it was ok in my city... I said there are signs of improvement and there are places that are great. I was just trying to help people out who think the network sux everywhere and Sprint is not doing anything about it anywhere... because that is wrong. They are working on it diligently.
Perhaps my "have patience or gtfo" comment was a little rude, but that sums up the situation here. The network sux. It's getting better. If you can't wait for the improvements, complaining on xda is not going to do anything for you.

Now an unpleasant surprise from Sprint

EDIT: Signal improvement went away... see followup post below.
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Meant to post about this two days ago, and got busy.
I've been one of those with near zero signal in my home neighborhood. I live in Scotts Valley, near Santa Cruz CA. Since I got my Epic last October, I have been extremely frustrated that I get 0/1 bars at home, the signal is too weak to be usable for phone calls (constant digital dropouts -- conversation is impossible), and of course pathetic data rates when I can actually get a connection, which ALSO is never reliable.
When I bought the phone, a tower within sight of my home on another ridge was scheduled to get a Sprint site before the end of the year (2010), according to their website map. Then, this upgrade disappeared. I called, and no one knew anything, of course.
I've been roaming on VZW, who have a 4/5 bar signal here, via Roam Control ever since I got the phone. Fine for calls and text, no data worth speaking about.
Woke up two days ago, and was at first mystified, then thrilled to see 5 solid bars on Sprint!!!! 3G data rates consistently 1100/750 down/up!!!
Apparently, they finally got around to upgrading their coverage in the area. 'bout time
4G? Don't even go there. Not yet, not expecting it... Ever.

Wow my 3g speeds are 200 down max and I have no 4g
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In a way, I have Sprint's poor coverage in my hood to thank for me needing to root and get acquainted with XDA. Otherwise no Roam Control. But it would rock to get a similar upgrade around here. Zoning and landscape just make it really unlikely. If I go just half a mile north or west it's totally different, with 4G and all. Hell, I can watch Netflix over 4G at my office, just not where I stay. I hope your story is repeated far and wide.

I've had the same experience as you. I've been with sprint for 11 years now and my signal is now amazing at the house. 2600 kbps dl, 550 ul. On average, of course. They upgraded the tower nsar my house last year.
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My rwception got worse so to u took my tower I want it back
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Network Vision...

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Network Vision...
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So this network vision thingy. Do they have a timeline on what cities get it first? Or am I just a needy young man? ahah

Congrats. Anybody else?

UPDATE: After some joy, Sprint decided to turn off whatever they did. Back to 0/1 bars here at home, inability to use voice without constant dropouts, no data to speak of...
Back to Roam Control and cursing Sprint. I am so close to walking away from my contract into VZW's arms. The SG2 could be enough...
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Someone with a car airave spent the nite? Lol...
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I live in Missouri (right next to sprint hq), and my service is never steady, usually shabby. But with the new EG22plus modem I get 4 bars constant. U might want to look into updating/rollbacking ur prl and/modem?
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dwallersv said:
Back to Roam Control and cursing Sprint. I am so close to walking away from my contract into VZW's arms. The SG2 could be enough...
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Staying exclusively on roaming is the easiest way to break your contract; they'll show you the door, or so I've been told...

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cresny said:
Staying exclusively on roaming is the easiest way to break your contract; they'll show you the door, or so I've been told...
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that's more true if you use a load of data. I use roam control for voice and text constantly because my apartment is a dead zone, and I use my wireless router for data, never got anything about it from sprint

Wizard Knight said:
that's more true if you use a load of data. I use roam control for voice and text constantly because my apartment is a dead zone, and I use my wireless router for data, never got anything about it from sprint
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That describes me. At home forced roaming so I can actually make and receive calls, data over wifi.
With the RC tasker plugin, phone automatically switches between forced roaming when in range of my home network, then back to "automatic" when out of range.
It's a workable solution, but not something I should have to do.
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You guys having problems in your house complain enough they will send you a Airrave for free.

Would that not be a Pleasant surprise instead of unpleasant? My signal seems to have gotten better lately as well

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You guys having problems in your house complain enough they will send you a Airrave for free.
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Yep. The only reason I'm still with them is because of the free Airrave. Without it, signal in my home was unacceptable.
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This may be a bit off topic, but I roam ALLLLL day when I'm at work, it gets me quite angry, and I continue to use data and phone while I "roam" , and saw a charge for roaming one time but called sprint and asked them how the **** I am roaming within my coverage area. They fed me some BS but took the charge away. I've never seen a charge for roaming since. Do you guys get charges?

So far as I know, with my family 2 phone everything plan, roaming is included.
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I just looked, it doesnt say roaming anywhere, but when looking at changing my services, the only roaming option given is Canada Roaming.
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Found it.
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anyone seen any network improvements?

All I heard was how sprints network is getting fast and blah blah blah but has anyone seen speeds that are actually faster? Mid Ga doesn't seem any better. I looked at the sight and see upgrades being done but I can't tell at all. Am I crazy or am I getting ransacked

sprint.com/network
Put in your zipcode to see recent and planned local upgrades.
Is that the site you've used?
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I've been on sprint for like 15 years... Sprint sucks! All i here is they are getting better, more towers bla bla bla.. I would rather be data throttled than have no signal... I have to June i believe than i jump ship... Sorry I'm not trolling i just felt my blood pressure rise...
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troyolson92 said:
I've been on sprint for like 15 years... Sprint sucks! All i here is they are getting better, more towers bla bla bla.. I would rather be data throttled than have no signal... I have to June i believe than i jump ship... Sorry I'm not trolling i just felt my blood pressure rise...
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Hey man we all have opinions and freedom to do whatever we want ...

austin420 said:
sprint.com/network
Put in your zipcode to see recent and planned local upgrades.
Is that the site you've used?
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Same place. They show upgrades happening but I don't see it. Its frustrating. I have 6 towers near me and get pathetic to OK coverage on base, but off bade its pretty good. Problem is I used to be on Verizon and they are strong in my area. I hate to switch back but I been w spring almost 2 years now, my wife has been w them 7 years. I am pretty close to cancelling this and moving on. I really like sprints line of phones but w 3 lines, I feel I can do better unless they have real changes they are making. I am holding on to the hold of the 800mhz I have seen floating around and was under the impression that that's what network vision was bringing me. Now 5 months after talk of it...still no great data. When everyone on Verizon is sucking data slam up. A consistent 1mb where ever I go isn't extreme to me when that's pretty much how Verizon treated me years ago. Now all my Verizon friends at seeing 2+mb

Same here...they upgrade some sites but nothing gets better. Even tech support said they upgraded one tower and was able to give me details. Still sub 100 kilobit speeds from this tower.

Well according to sprint next month I should have better service... needless to say if I dont see any difference then I'm gone cause I work 50+ hours a week and have no service wat so ever so if no improve bye bye sprint
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Where I live it's a struggle to get over 100 kbit on the 3g and 1 mbit on the 4g when it's available but It is better than AT&T.
Sprint unlimited is a joke, it's like offering unlimited mileage on an auto lease and then you find out it's a yugo that can't go much faster than 1 mph.
I can't break 1 gig a month because the data rates are so slow.
My plan is to drop sprint when my contract is up. You can sign a new contact and get cheaper prices on high end phones.

Wow 100kb? Yuck, I would have left them long ago. Hell, I roam at 130kb! I know sorta because I work on an air force base and in some spots data is non existent. I may ride it out until June...if it isn't happening, I have to leave sprint. Too bad they don't read forums haha. Hurry up Sprint! Stop buying iPhones and buy some damn towers!

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Wow 100kb? Yuck, I would have left them long ago. Hell, I roam at 130kb! I know sorta because I work on an air force base and in some spots data is non existent. I may ride it out until June...if it isn't happening, I have to leave sprint. Too bad they don't read forums haha. Hurry up Sprint! Stop buying iPhones and buy some damn towers!
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That is about the speed I get too most of the time, damn right, 14 billion to bog down your network some more, real winning company... **** the iPhone anyways...

I noticed my 4g signal ha become stronger over the past six months. This week I found I no longer lose 4g in the backroom at work and my 3g has started working a tad more in areas there was once none. Overall speed is the same just more coverage.
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R3537L1F3 said:
I noticed my 4g signal ha become stronger over the past six months. This week I found I no longer lose 4g in the backroom at work and my 3g has started working a tad more in areas there was once none. Overall speed is the same just more coverage.
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That's positive. Hopefully something will come to my area soon . I was fishing for feedback. I do like sprints price. And have always had voice coverage, hopefully data coverage expands here

Its all about location. Sprint service isn't that bad guys.... I get great service in Omaha, NE .. however... 4g is virtually non-existent, which is retarded considering im required to pay for it. I have had verizon, alltel (when it existed), StraightTalk, AT&T.... I would say Sprint and StraightTalk (YES STRAIGHT TALK) provided the best service for me in terms of dropped calls and data. AT&T is a joke.
When I was using straight talk I had their nokia smart phone....if I recall correctly.... im pretty sure their 3g service ran off verizon towers, im not sure though.

A tower was marked recently as having recieved a data speed upgrade within the past 6 months near my niece's high school. We were there for a basketball game, 6pm to about 8pm at night on thursday. I did a speed test and saw 1200kbps. I was impressed. By my house it is still 200-300kbps at times dipping down to less than 100 or in the middle of the night peaking around 450.
From the looks of things the upgrades should be heading towards towers in my area soon. I am curious to see how it goes, as I would love to get better 3g speeds. I have some crappy 4g right now but its so spotty and the battery drain so significant 4g is just pointless to me.

Is there a site like this for Verizon? In case someone would like to (hypothetically) change prl's and force roam to Verizon in certain areas? It would be handy to know.
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sprint.com/network
Put in your zipcode to see recent and planned local upgrades.
Is that the site you've used?
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3G is gotten lil better.

Better where I am at. Nothing like what I would like but better.... on the funny side, My brother is staying with us and he has Verizon, talk about slow service in this area. You can cry and ***** all you want, all carriers will have problems. Why not over pay for them. lol

Mines slower. After the EL30 update. Modem issues thou. I hope not, I like the latest and greatest.

I live in Los Angeles. I've noticed my 4g improve in reliability, but decrease in speed.
My 3g is abysmal. Like, almost worthless. Once in a blue moon I'll get 200+ kb/s, but usually it is sub 100.
Calls/texts are generally fine though.

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I'm not seeing a huge problem with Sprint, I did 3 tests like this and they all came out roughly this fast. I live in the Twin Cities in Minnesota and I can stream Pandora without any interruptions back and forth from my 40 min commute. When I head to my dads place (its 3 hours away in the middle of nowhere) I can still stream Pandora basically skipless the whole way. I hardly ever use 4g though since its a battery suck and overkill 99% of the time, and it doesn't reach into my apartment . I also don't roam very often, automatic system select rarely works with data without some fiddling. I only use roaming at my dad's house since verizon is the only provider out there. Otherwise I'm pretty happy with Sprint

Wimax being shut down?

I can't connect to 4G and I'm right next to a Wimax tower. ;/
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Not for another year or so... tower could be down...

So they a completely saying screw you to all the so called 4g phones even though for what 2 years we have been paying a extra 10 bucks per line?
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zacnking said:
So they a completely saying screw you to all the so called 4g phones even though for what 2 years we have been paying a extra 10 bucks per line?
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What? First off iPhone has no 4G and they pay the premium data charge too. You don't like it go pay $50 for the 5GB cap on AT&T. Second off Wimax will be around until at least 2015 with the current Clear unlimited use contract Sprint has. They may negotiate a usage contract after that if there are still enough Imax users out there. Sprint is putting all there efforts into expanding their 3G and 4GLTE.
If you have no 4G today op it is most likely a tower down for repair or upgrade.
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It was being wonky in Baltimore,Maryland yesterday. On a somewhat related note, how far is the range of a WiMAX tower? When I get WiMAX on the highway, I'm assuming through highway towers, 4G jumps in and out to the point where it's better to turn it off and let the retarded phone jump from 3G to 1x over and over because 4G drops to 3G at least every minute and can't be guaranteed to come back. I wouldn't really mind if they killed WiMAX towers. I don't get it at home and from what I can tell it's complete **** for people who can get it. I went to NYC for a weekend expecting the city to be blanketed in nice 4G goodness. Speeds were about 1.5x 3G and coverage was horrid.
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Tomcat5 said:
It was being wonky in Baltimore,Maryland yesterday. On a somewhat related note, how far is the range of a WiMAX tower? When I get WiMAX on the highway, I'm assuming through highway towers, 4G jumps in and out to the point where it's better to turn it off and let the retarded phone jump from 3G to 1x over and over because 4G drops to 3G at least every minute and can't be guaranteed to come back. I wouldn't really mind if they killed WiMAX towers. I don't get it at home and from what I can tell it's complete **** for people who can get it. I went to NYC for a weekend expecting the city to be blanketed in nice 4G goodness. Speeds were about 1.5x 3G and coverage was horrid.
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Sounds like Sprint service in MN. Praying LTE turns it around and their promised 3G speed increase gets here sooner than later. My brother gets 25 mb down on VZW LTE.
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Tomcat5 said:
It was being wonky in Baltimore,Maryland yesterday. On a somewhat related note, how far is the range of a WiMAX tower? When I get WiMAX on the highway, I'm assuming through highway towers, 4G jumps in and out to the point where it's better to turn it off and let the retarded phone jump from 3G to 1x over and over because 4G drops to 3G at least every minute and can't be guaranteed to come back. I wouldn't really mind if they killed WiMAX towers. I don't get it at home and from what I can tell it's complete **** for people who can get it. I went to NYC for a weekend expecting the city to be blanketed in nice 4G goodness. Speeds were about 1.5x 3G and coverage was horrid.
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I get 9 mb down consistently on 4g.. some spots are horrible, but others get prety decent speed on wimx...

flastnoles11 said:
I get 9 mb down consistently on 4g.. some spots are horrible, but others get prety decent speed on wimx...
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I can see a Wimax tower from my house, about 1000' away. Still have to go outside to use it and only get about 7 down.
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frostedunit said:
I can see a Wimax tower from my house, about 1000' away. Still have to go outside to use it and only get about 7 down.
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I wouldn't call 7 down great, but I wouldn't call it bad either..

flastnoles11 said:
I wouldn't call 7 down great, but I wouldn't call it bad either..
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Wouldn't call it the 23 my buddy gets with Verizon.
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I wouldn't call 7 down great, but I wouldn't call it bad either..
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Wimax's maximum potential is 10 mbs... so 70% of the maximum potential isn't great?
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styles420 said:
Wimax's maximum potential is 10 mbs... so 70% of the maximum potential isn't great?
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Was unaware that Wimax only went to 10. If the numbers between Wimax and LTE were as different then as they are today, I can only wonder if Dan Hesse knows how to read.
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frostedunit said:
Wouldn't call it the 23 my buddy gets with Verizon.
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Dude! That's slow compared to my experience with Verizon LTE. My city is fortunate to have steady cell signal but otherwise it's a small hick town that carriers don't care about. My VZW friend get 30 to 40 Mbps down on LTE. Closest WiMAX is an hour and a half away.
And... Why the hell would Sprint sign a contract with a technology that makes out at 1/4 of the technology Verizon was working on? Or is it that the bastards cap us?
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So back to Wimax being shut down...
Sprint will have wimax working for the life of your phone. Even if they and Clear both switch to LTE, and even if they have to extend their contract with Clear to do it.
Just look at how long they kept iden functioning, long after they stopped selling the phones. Wimax will be very much the same.
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I have got pretty decent 4G speeds in Baltimore, but not so much in DC.
Still, it has never been a real concern for me, as I use WiFi at the 2 places I go most, and 3G has actually been rather stable for me in both DC and Baltimore.
Like so many have said... its all... location, location, location...

You are correct, DC. I travel extensively for my job, and I see major differences in each city. And, the Epic being such a complex unit, it probably varies phone-to-phone. I'm gling to Cleveland today and tomorrow, and I have historically always had the fastest and best 4G connections in Cle. Likewise, in New York, I sputter and strain on 4G. Home in Orlando, its 5 minutes on, 5 minutes off.
If they are just turning off the lights on iDEN now, I'll bet we see WiMax for several more years. Think of all those OG Evo's they sold on opening day in June 2010.....
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Ha, it's funny you mention it, but I noticed a stronger 4G connection in Tampa yesterday. I was in the same spot I always am when using 4G and I was getting a faster speed. I even when inside, where I normally don't get 4G and got a lock.

Still 4g where I live pretty close to Baltimore. Waiting for LTE here to upgrade.
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Tomcat5 said:
And... Why the hell would Sprint sign a contract with a technology that makes out at 1/4 of the technology Verizon was working on? Or is it that the bastards cap us?
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Yes, because Sprint looked into the future to see what technology their competitors would eventually use, and made sure to pick a slower one... it definitely didn't have anything to do with the fact that wimax was deployed months before lte, or the forward-flowing direction of time
But on a serious note, back when Sprint chose which tech to invest in, early reports indicated that wimax had better buildng penetration (relative to the power input). What good is a fast data connection that you have to go outside to use it? Sprint went with the best option for their budget, so they could provide a 4G connection without losing their competitive pricing (or their profit - it likely would have been one or the other, with the same long-term result)
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Kind of off topic but with lte will it be the same lte for all service providers or is the frequency different for each company?
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