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I think I may have a faulty battery (hoping it's not a problem with the phone itself). The battery seems to hold it's charge ok but when it has completely run out of charge or is close to running out, I have a lot of problems getting it to charge up.
If the phone is turned off, the orange light comes on but then goes off again after about 10 minutes and the battery still shows 0% when I turn the phone on to check progress. I have to remove the cable, then remove the battery for at least 5 mins, turn the phone on and while it is booting up, do a soft reset. I then insert the cable as the phone is booting up and after a while the orange light comes on and the phone starts to charge. It takes ages to charge and when it has got to about 20%, I then turn off the phone and it then charges the remaining % fairly quickly. It only gets to 99% though....
I am pretty sure (like 99.9%) that it is just the battery as my son has the same phone. We have swapped chargers - no difference. We then swapped batteries - my phone worked fine and his wouldn't charge! However, when I went in the Orange shop they were insistant that I had to send the phone back as well, which I really don't want to do as I haven't got a spare phone (even a brick).
Unfortunately, as I have just lost my job, I don't want to have to buy a new battery as they are about £25 but I guess I will have to.
What do people think - is it just a faulty battery? Has anyone else had this issue with their phone - i.e is it a known problem?? Hope someone can help...
I guess no-one bothers to answers questions from newbies then....
idd, i feel the same way..
but i think your battery is dead, don't have much experience about that subject but when you exchange the battery with someelse and then his phone acts weird to, look no further.
Hello,
I've a Wizard that is approximately 20 months old. Yesterday, before I went to bed, I set the alarm clock on the Wizard, put it next to bed and went to sleep.
This morning upon waking up I tried to switch on the Wizard but it couldn't. Firstly, I thought the battery was discharged, so I tried charging through USB on my computer -- it wouldn't charge or start. Then, I tried charging on the default charger -- again nothing.
I tried removing battery and soft reset - nothing. It's really weird, yesterday I left it working, no-one has touched it and today it's totally non-responsive.
Any ideas what might be wrong/how can I bring it back to life? Would a hard-reset help?
Regards,
1. how much charge was in the battery last night?
2. is your battery 20 months old also?
3. do you have a spare battery to try?
4. do you have many applications, music etc. on the device?
1. how much charge was in the battery last night?
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Unfortunately I can't remember, however I have an alarm which sounds periodically when the battery is below 20%, so I'm guessing I had at least 20 percent. Could be wrong, of course, but most likely above 20%.
2. is your battery 20 months old also?
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Yes, this is the original battery. Aprx. 20 months old.
3. do you have a spare battery to try?
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I don't have that. I guess I could go to mobile phone service shack and check there. Do you think it's the battery?
4. do you have many applications, music etc. on the device?
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The Wizard came with a 64MB card I think. I had around 10MB free space. 3-4 applications, 2-3 mp3s. Nothing unusual.
Same thing (sort of) happened to mine after about 187 months. I was using mine and it hung up. I hit the reset button and that was the end of that. Even when plugged in it does nothing. Tried a hard reset... nothing. Soft reset.... nothing. Dead. Zip. Nadda.
Good news? Replaced it with a Kaiser!
vivanov said:
Hello,
I've a Wizard that is approximately 20 months old. Yesterday, before I went to bed, I set the alarm clock on the Wizard, put it next to bed and went to sleep.
This morning upon waking up I tried to switch on the Wizard but it couldn't. Firstly, I thought the battery was discharged, so I tried charging through USB on my computer -- it wouldn't charge or start. Then, I tried charging on the default charger -- again nothing.
I tried removing battery and soft reset - nothing. It's really weird, yesterday I left it working, no-one has touched it and today it's totally non-responsive.
Any ideas what might be wrong/how can I bring it back to life? Would a hard-reset help?
Regards,
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Mine died too when i was flashing...
Leave the phone in the original charger for a while and see if it picks up...sometimes it comes back to life by doing that...
If that doesnt work, try a new battery, you might be lucky...
A somewhat strange development occurred today:
Today (3 days after it stopping working) I randomly tried to switch the Wizard on and it indeed switched on. It showed that it had 0% battery. It didn't even show 0%, basically the battery charge graph was empty - no number, no fill, nothing.
While it was on charge the charge light was on (while it was 'broken' the charge light was off when I tried to charge). So I left it to charge and when I checked back in 15 minutes it was back to being 'dead'. Can't be started, no charge light, nada.
I don't really know what's going on, however I'm highly suspicious of the battery. Currently, I'm periodically trying to switch it on again so I can backup my data.
Any ideas what might be wrong with it, do you think it's the battery or is it more serious?
Regards,
The battery won't charge if it gets to low.
There is a thread about using a 9V battery to get the battery up to a level so it will charge. I don't have the link for it, try searching for it or maybe someone else will reply.
You might have a bad battery. I bought a new battery because I didn't think I was getting the life that I should. I tried using the old battery about a month after when I had to run out and my main was low. About 15 minuets later my phone started shutting of and rebooting. That was the end of that battery.
Yep, it's possible. If the battery is to empty, you can't charge the phone. It is stupid but it's just like that. You also can't power on the phone without a battery with the charger connected.
Yesterday I received my wizard and I had to revive my battery too because it was completely empty. I used a self made 5V power supply and after 2 minutes charging I placed the battery in the wizard and was able to charge and boot with the charger connected.
Here's the 9v battery trick, connect the + from the 9v battery to the + of the phones battery and the - to the -, hold there for only 10 seconds then remove the connection for 10 seconds and then repeat the process about 8 to 10 times and then put the battery back in the phone and connect it to the wall charger to fully charge.
Thanks for the advice. I'm going to do the jump-start thing.
However, I've hard time determining which is the - and which is the + pin layout on the battery, since the label is not correctly applied.
As far as I can see the - is the one at the far right, however I'm not sure which is the + pin.
Can someone help me with this, please?
Regards,
vivanov said:
Thanks for the advice. I'm going to do the jump-start thing.
However, I've hard time determining which is the - and which is the + pin layout on the battery, since the label is not correctly applied.
As far as I can see the - is the one at the far right, however I'm not sure which is the + pin.
Can someone help me with this, please?
Regards,
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When you take out the battery and put it back in that direction ,turn and face up the connector side fasing you,the first connector from the rightside of the battery is the ' + ' and the last is ' - ' towards the leftside.Be careful while connecting and try not to touch other connectors. Don't keep the connections longer then 10 seconds interval.
good luck
Xeno1,
My MDA battery also died and went below re-chargeable state. Your trick to use 9volt battery to jump-start it worked just fine for me. I connnected for about 20 seconds (2x times) and plugged it back into phone and connected USB cable to it and my nice yellow charging light came back on. After about 30 mins, I could use the phone.
THANKS FOR THE GREAT TIP!!!
easier fix, take a standard usb cable. rip off the smaller end with a wire cutter, expose the red and black wire. take out your battery, than connect the negative(black) wire to the negative end of the battery, than the red wire to the positive end of the battery, leave it in there for exactly 3-5 minutes for jump start. after that turn your wizard on, and quickly shove it inside a new usb cable. or the wall charger.
note:
if not done correctly, you may damage your wizard or the battery. if theres a power overload or your power goes out. your wizard will burn out!
feedback is greatly appreciated.
p.s after that my battery seem to be weak, charge barely holds for 12 hours. after 12-14 hours it will die out. so i suggest buying a new battery after couple of days.
Thanks guys! Vario died yesterday and wouldn't turn on or charge.
Tried the 9v battery recommended here and it worked! I was a little unsure which end was - and which was + but using the advise above, got it right. Wasn't too worried as found and ordered a replacement from ebay this morning for £7.
The first connector on the right hand side, nearest the end of the battery is the + the one more towards the middle and further away from its corresponding end is -, or at least, thats what worked for me.
Thanks again!
Experiencing the same issues after I set aside my Mini S as it was experiencing problems with regards to its screen alignment. Wasn't able to charge it during that time I kept in the drawer unused - due to frustration as I can't use it anymore. After downloading a guide to disassmble it so I could remedy the problem I found out that it won't power up anymore even with a new battery.
Well, haven't tried the jumpstart thing and the original battery was disposed of already to try the jumpstart idea. Could it be the internal battery is causing the problems? I opened my unit up and tested the internal battery for power and it registers a measly .2V left. Will use the 9V thing to power it up (as been doing that before on watch batteries that are hard to find replacements) before I do it on the main battery. Here's hoping it works as the Mini S has been quite useful for me until now.
UPDATE: I charged the internal battery and it now reads 1+ V and the external battery at 3+ V. No luck yet though as the unit still won't show any life. Any suggestions?
Vivanov, I know it's been a few years now, but did you end up fixing your problem? If so, how?
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Not everything my friend
Just charge the battery for some HOURS or over the night. All the described symptoms indicate a low battery to me.
cheers
UPDATE:
Just managed to unlock a bootloader in that short period of time i can get to fastboot. But still no change, phone wont stay in fastboot.
greg17477 said:
Not everything my friend
Just charge the battery for some HOURS or over the night. All the described symptoms indicate a low battery to me.
cheers
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Well, i actaully tried to leave it plugged over night. But i think it stops charging right after the red light dissapears, which happens after 15mins or so after plugging. Btw, i mentioned earlier that battery shows 3.7V when measured with multimeter, so the battery doesn't seem to be the culprit... or does it...?
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your battery is drained below safe line....to 0%. They warn you NOT to update it with less than 60% battery FOR A REASON!!
Friends case she managed to charge ger asus 7 memopad with non-removable bat to 60% after 8 HOURS, because of a bloatware wakelock drainage to 0% after a factory reset....
If that doesn't work you have to either recharge the battery manually (something like car batteries, you have to unsolder the battery connector because the battery doesnt have 2 gold squares that touch the gold pins like the removable ones, or get a new battery.
Li-Po batteries should never be discharged to 0%, and can make problems if they are not removable (Nexus 4)
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your battery is drained below safe line....to 0%. They warn you NOT to update it with less than 60% battery FOR A REASON!!
Friends case she managed to charge ger asus 7 memopad with non-removable bat to 60% after 8 HOURS, because of a bloatware wakelock drainage to 0% after a factory reset....
If that doesn't work you have to either recharge the battery manually (something like car batteries, you have to unsolder the battery connector because the battery doesnt have 2 gold squares that touch the gold pins like the removable ones, or get a new battery.
Li-Po batteries should never be discharged to 0%, and can make problems if they are not removable (Nexus 4)
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I did manage to charge it manually with two small wires and an old Nokia charger, when checking battery with multimeter after a few minutes of charging seems to increase voltage. But i guess if the chip on battery is fried there is nothing more i can do.
I will try to leave the phone on charger all night once again, see if that makes a difference, and update if anything changes.
take off the back, disconnect the battery connector wire and connect it again, put it on charger and see if things change
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Leaving it to charge overnight didn't have any effect. Any other suggestions than changing a battery?
Nah, sorry, but i am out of ideas. You basically tried it all :/
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I know there is a lot of threads about bricked N4's, and i can assure you that I have viewed each and every one of them, but i still can't resolve my broblem.
This whole brick situation happened after trying to update to Android 4.3 OTA update, the phone didn't complete the process and turned off, where red light of death happened.
So the scenario goes like this:
If i hold POWER button for ~30s when phone is off charger i only get a Google logo for 2 sec, and phone instantly restarts
Holding PWR+VOL-DOWN buttons when phone is off charger doesn't do anything
Plugging phone to charge (socket or PC) results in solid red light
Holding PWR+VOL-DOWN or PWR+VOL-DOWN+VOL-UP for ~15s makes the red light blink at a steady rate
While continuing to hold the respective buttons and pluging the charger off, and on again gets me to bootloader or download mode (depending on button combo) for ~2s and phone restarts.
I tried removing and inserting the battery 3 times. One time i got blinking red light when plugged the charger in. Second time i got solid red light and third time got solid red light again
I tried charging the battery directly for 15 minutes with old Nokia charger, and it resulted in something different(when i assembled the phone and tried to turn it on with PWR+VOL-DOWN buttons when charger was plugged off, i got to bootloader for 2seconds before phone restarted, i tried to boot second time and the same thing happened, but when i tried it third time i got nothing, just like before) so this was the first time i got into bootloader while not charging a phone.
*My PC seems to pick up the phone for a brief moment when it is in bootloader and starts installing the drivers. Drivers gets installed when i'm in download mode for that brief moment too.
**Phone doesn't get to the white or red battery icon while plugged to charge.
***Solid red light dissapears after charging for ~10mins, but phone won't do anything.
****When measured with a multimeter battery shows 3.7V
I hope someone will be able to help me with this, as it is frustrating as f*ck. I don't have a working warranty, so fixing the N4 isn't an option, and where i live phone repair prices are over the roof (ex. motherboard change for N4 costs ~270$ ).
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I had the same problem. Kept it on the charger for a whole day and still only the Red Light.
Took it to a local shop and they said there is a short circuit in the antenna
Took it to the LG Service center and they said my motherboard is gone.
Both were costing a bomb to repair and still there was no guarantee.
IMHO, get a new phone.
Sorry
Have you tried charging it with a wireless charging pad? I got mine to boot after I did that. Your battery is drained and it doesn't have enough juice to charge itself.
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Don't fall for the motherboard dead trick. Just a way to steal your money.... change the battery and never let it go to 1%
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Hello everyone,
I read about this problem elsewhere but it didn't help.
Today I was at 40% of battery, phone ringed, I rejected the call, after few minutes picked it up, unlocked, screen started flickering and it died.
It didn't want to turn on. Took the battery out then back in, still didn't power on.
Placed it on charger, it started to charge, showing totally empty. After few minutes it went to 20%.
Took it of the charger, took the battery out to inspect it after reading on internet, it looked fine. Put it back in, turned it on, I was BACK AT 40%!!
Phone is one month old, practically new phone, never dropped it, bent it, nothing.
first of all fully drain the battery to 0% and then change battery to 100% and calibrate it thought this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vitula.batterycalibration&hl=en if it is still showing the same problem then it is possible that the battery must be faulty.
Yes it sounds like a faulty battery but its a new phone so I rulled that out
I usually charge the battery only when its less than 10%, usually 3-5% and then top it up to 100%. I never partially charge it. I will try this app next time I drain it
I had to replace my LCD the other day, decided to do it myself because I was out of warranty and my local repair was asking £80 when the LCD was on ebay for £44. Followed JerryRigEverything's tutorial, done it myself, plugged the battery into the motherboard and it said 9%, when I turned the phone off at 36%. Repluged it and it said 36% again, so I started up the phone and continued charging for the better part of an hour, and the battery percentage didn't change. It stayed there for hours until I got up the next morning, where decided to stay at 15% this time. I decided to let the battery die, as I figured it was discalibrated and that would help.
Well, ever since then I can't get the battery to hold a charge. It will stay at 4%, whether the phone is on or off. When I disconnect the charger, it will go down to 0% pretty quickly. I've been charging with the included TurboCharger, which has been working fine, and a new Samsung charger, for hours and hours, and the only way to get the battery to change percentage is to restart sometimes. The highest I've seen it is 16%, but when I've turned on the phone it's went down to 14% even when it's charging. I've tried replugging the battery several times, and re-assembling the entire phone, to no avail.
Yesterday, however, I unplugged at 6% and it lasted at least until I fell asleep. In the morning, it was dead again. ;(
I'm clueless, I didn't even touch the battery when I was repairing it, I did ignorantly pull the adhesive tabs but that was it. The charging port is clear, everything was fine before I opened the phone to replace the LCD. Kinda desperate right now, so help would be extremely appreciated.
No ones knows what's going on? Surely this isn't a rare issue, this is the first time I've repaired a phone. I've since checked Ampere and AccuBattery and they show -9,000mAh charge, -22.5C and the volts are at 3.499 mV whilst charging. Interesting.