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I am starting this discussion for all the Moto X fans out there to have a say about their favorite features, the features they want and the features they would like changed (or changed back)
The main motivation on my judgement on features below is that I am considering the Moto X to be the most user friendly daily driver. All round phone that is not specialized, does everything well and nothing exceptionally great. Especially for the urban lifestyle (some may call it plastic or tin canned).
Size
The best thing I like about the 2013 Moto X is the 4.7 inch display, this gave the 2013 Moto X the reputation of the best one hand operated phone experience back at 2013 and I believe it should stay, 4.7 to 5 inch is perfect size.
It can also grow in size as different people would like different thing, but in my opinion to keep the one hand operation miracle alive, Motorola needs to keep a version of Moto X with 4.7-5 inch
Screen resolution
I am very happy with the 720, especially that the full HD screen eats up battery. I don't see any benefit of having HD display, even for media or gaming. Battery life is a crucial factor compared to minimal media quality.
Let's face it, media high quality is a nice option on tablet or a bigger device, watching media on the phone for most people (as I have noticed) is when you're waiting for the doctors at the clinic (who don't really know what the word appointment means) or on the bus etc. If I want to watch a video and enjoy it in high quality, I would watch it on a tablet or a laptop, or using my Moto X to cast it to a higher resolution device.
Battery life
Now we're talking, battery life is one of the most important features of the 2013 Moto X and I would give up a lot to keep it lasting a day at least, I would like Motorola to work on it, make it better. Along with the screen size, battery life has motivated me big time to buy the Moto X.
Wireless charging
A nice feature that would make the experience using Moto X even better, however not necessary, I got used to carrying a charger with me, or a decent power-bank, so while wireless charging can help on the work desk or at home, it's almost useless for people on the move (like myself) especially that it takes much longer to fully charge the phone
Touchless controls
Here is one of the best features I have ever seen in a phone. Really, well done Motorola. The ways to enhance this was already implemented on the new one, by customizing the trigger phrase, Motorola has shown it cares/listens to customers. Also the fact that the command list is expanding to cover more than Google voice.
If Motorola want to perfect this, they can allow other apps to use the Touchless controls by providing SDKs to third-parties (or a similar technique).
Enhancing experience and reducing time for repeated tasks
Shake to open camera, NFC accessories, Bluetooth trusted devices unlock are the main features allowing this.
The Motorola Skip is great, keep providing ways to address user frustration points, and time consuming repeated tasks (such as unlocking phone.) This phone addresses the most critical time consuming repeated tasks correctly. Motorola, we want more of those please.
Can you guys think of anything else other than Camera, unlock phone as repeated time consuming tasks? Let me (and Motorola) know.
SD slot
One of the features I wish Moto X had is an expandable memory, I have replaced most of the devices I use with Moto X and that's supposed to be the idea. Replacing alarm, car GPS, Camera mp3 player and more. This is a feature that I would love for Motorola to consider. Many people like myself have a big music library and it's a shame that a great device like the Moto X lacks this.
Camera
The Camera in the Moto X isn't that great, we all know that. Even the 2014 Moto X doesn't have a good one, but I can live with that, camera is not of a great significance to me, and for a all-round device it should not be a great camera. In conclusion, the camera there is sufficient
Style.
The Moto Maker is great, however it has a limitation, the design of the phone itself can enchance or kill the Moto Maker customization. I personally prefer the 2013 Moto X style better than the new one.
Water/Weather Proofing
The Moto X is supposed to be Nano-coated, so it's water proof to a degree, the touch screen cannot be used under water or under rain (even a few drops.) The urban lifestyle is all about being fit, sporty and outdoors. A proper water/weather proofing would be a great feature to consider
Price
No need to say anything here. It's reasonably priced for most parts of the world.
Everyday repeated tasks handling
This is where the Moto X product line excels. Here is a list of the features we love and notes about how to enhance them:
Touchless control: Great! I have already discussed this above.
Assist: I love it, especially for driving mode, however, Motorola needs to consider more ways to trigger the mode. I don't like the driving mode automatically on when on the bus or in a car which I am not driving. Triggering on only when connected to a specific bluetooth device can make this specific to my car which will be great. There are more ways to enhance this as well, please share your opinion.
Skip: I love skip unlock, even though some people lose it a lot, but it's only $10, which makes it easily replaced when lost.
Trusted devices: needs some work, you need to unlock the device once before the trusted device unlock work, very useful when in the car.
Shaking the phone for camera: no complains there, works great, and very useful indeed.
Notifications: Adding the feature to view multiple notifications when the phone is locked for the 2014 version is the update we were looking for.
The old 2013 Moto X should have the software features updates as per:
vikramkhalsa said:
I met Punit Soni last night and he confirmed to me once again that some of the New moto x features will come to the old one. I believe he was referring to the 3 active notification thing and the customizable phrase. Don't know about anything else ( these are just simple software updates ).
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Update:
Here is a list of guides for the impatient ones (like myself):
How to get 2014 Moto X MotoVoice on a 4.4.4 android 2013 Moto X
I am hoping that motorola adds more in this category, enhancing the user experience by reducing the time for repeated time consuming tasks is what makes the Moto X a great every day driver. Anything else you want added/discussed, please let me know.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...m-launch-phrases-for-the-new-moto-x-and-more/
Update: According to Punit Soni, "all the software will come to our existing users too (as long as the Hardware allows it)." So it's safe to assume that the original Moto X will get this feature – could be soon, but it may not show up till the L update is available. Now we play the waiting game.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.audiomonitor&hl=en
On your new Moto X (2nd generation), there’s even more:
To make Moto Voice more personal to you, create your own launch phrase, like “Hello Moto X” and teach it your voice. Say “Play Beethoven on YouTube” to play music videos on YouTube. You can also interact with your favorite apps like Facebook and WhatsApp with your voice.
For Moto X (1st generation), Droid Maxx, Droid Mini, and Droid Ultra users, stay tuned for updates to Moto Voice / Touchless Control soon.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.motodisplay&hl=en
Moto Display is currently only supported on the new Moto X (2nd Generation.)
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AFAIK, there has not been a solid confirmation of which specific features will be ported, but everything I've read seems to indicate that the two features you mention will be made available in updates for the 2013 Moto X. I believe it is happening.
That's good news, I prefer the old Moto X to the new one for many reasons, but would like to have the software updates. Thanks mate
I would like the new features but I don't care for the white/light blue touchless control screen.. I prefer the black/dark and amoled battery saving version that we have currently.
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I would like the new features but I don't care for the white/light blue touchless control screen.. I prefer the black/dark and amoled battery saving version that we have currently.
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I think I will probably start a thread about the Moto X features old/new and what users are expecting in the next one
Isn't this such a thread
Dont forget about the moto actions features that let you silence incoming calls with a wave. On the new X it uses the ir sensors to detect movement but i feel like our proximity sensor could do the job just fine. There is a mod that ports these over unofficially but an offcial update would be nice. It would definitely let me know, as a motorola customer, they value me and my investment in their product. Which in turn would really bump up my overall experience with their product and would give them a leg up when it comes time for me to consider who to turn to for a new device.
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Dont forget about the moto actions features that let you silence incoming calls with a wave. On the new X it uses the ir sensors to detect movement but i feel like our proximity sensor could do the job just fine. There is a mod that ports these over unofficially but an offcial update would be nice. It would definitely let me know, as a motorola customer, they value me and my investment in their product. Which in turn would really bump up my overall experience with their product and would give them a leg up when it comes time for me to consider who to turn to for a new device.
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Far as i know that "port" is only partially working and pretty unstable. I will wait for moto to release it officially or for the people working on the port to get a little more polish on their product
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Far as i know that "port" is only partially working and pretty unstable. I will wait for moto to release it officially or for the people working on the port to get a little more polish on their product
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You are correct. And that's exactly why I'm not using it either. Rather get the official thing.
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Isn't this such a thread
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Well, this is more about the old Moto x. I will post another to discuss the features of the Moto X product like in general. What we like/dislike/want.
Einstein_eg said:
Well, this is more about the old Moto x. I will post another to discuss the features of the Moto X product like in general. What we like/dislike/want.
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Another? Likely will get closed. Use what's already open is the best bet. ?
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Dont forget about the moto actions features that let you silence incoming calls with a wave. On the new X it uses the ir sensors to detect movement but i feel like our proximity sensor could do the job just fine. There is a mod that ports these over unofficially but an offcial update would be nice. It would definitely let me know, as a motorola customer, they value me and my investment in their product. Which in turn would really bump up my overall experience with their product and would give them a leg up when it comes time for me to consider who to turn to for a new device.
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I have a question about that ir sensor. What sensor does the moto x have for active display ? If I put my hand over the phone without touching it, active display comes up.
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I have a question about that ir sensor. What sensor does the moto x have for active display ? If I put my hand over the phone without touching it, active display comes up.
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It's a proximity sensor on the old moto x. It detects if something is in front of it or not. The ir sensor is different and there's 4 of them as opposed to our 1 proximity sensor. Those are used in the new moto x for facial listening (the screen won't turn off if you're looking at it) and moto actions like activating moto display and silencing an incoming phone call.
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The update has been added to the main thread's first post.
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Another? Likely will get closed. Use what's already open is the best bet. ?
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Trust me it's different. This thread is discussing only one aspect mentioned there. Take a look:
Moto X product line specs and features feedback
The mod for the 2014 features is working for me except for wave to silence and three notifications in activate display. I've had a custom launch phrase for about a month.
Rooted Stock Moto X running AT&T 4.4.4 on XT1058 "Listen Up, Moto X!"
Smash2Bash said:
The mod for the 2014 features is working for me except for wave to silence and three notifications in activate display. I've had a custom launch phrase for about a month.
Rooted Stock Moto X running AT&T 4.4.4 on XT1058 "Listen Up, Moto X!"
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Can you please provide a link to the mod? Thanks.
Also does anybody know of any other mods, apps that will add the 2014 Moto software features on the 2013?
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Can you please provide a link to the mod? Thanks.
Also does anybody know of any other mods, apps that will add the 2014 Moto software features on the 2013?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2871296
I believe I flashed the zip in the OP. Only for 4.4.4
Rooted Stock Moto X running AT&T 4.4.4 on XT1058 "Listen Up, Moto X!"
I met Punit Soni last night and he confirmed to me once again that some of the New moto x features will come to the old one. I believe he was referring to the 3 active notification thing and the customizable phrase. Don't know about anything else ( these are just simple software updates ).
I took a look at the Droid product line, which got my attention especially that the Droid Turbo is coming out soon. I love the battery life and wireless charging, but it's as ugly as the New Moto X. Not to mention that I cannot have it anyway as I am (like most most people outside the us) not a Verizon customer.
http://www.redmondpie.com/motorola-moto-x-2015-specs-leaked-online/
Snapdragon 808
4GB RAM (bit OTT me thinks)
3280mah Battery (finally!!!)
5.2in QHD AMOLED Screen
16MP Rear Camera (with OIS I hope!)
5MP front camera
No micro SD slot (who cares in this day and age!)
32GB or 64GB storage options
I've got a feeling that huge battery isn't going to last much longer than the current gen Moto X due to that power hungry QHD screen
If that holds true, I'm on board. The only thing that would keep me from getting the Moto X 2015 is if Google decides to bring the next Nexus phone back down to a reasonable size. Even then, I may stick to the Moto X. My firm's AirWatch policy does not allow rooted phones or custom ROMs, so with that in mind, the Moto X pure edition comes out looking as good or better than a 5.2 inch screen Nexus.
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If that holds true, I'm on board. The only thing that would keep me from getting the Moto X 2015 is if Google decides to bring the next Nexus phone back down to a reasonable size.
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Same here
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5.2in QHD AMOLED Screen
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5.2 inch is the perfect size for me! I think QHD is a good choice but I can live w/o it.
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If that holds true, I'm on board. The only thing that would keep me from getting the Moto X 2015 is if Google decides to bring the next Nexus phone back down to a reasonable size. Even then, I may stick to the Moto X. My firm's AirWatch policy does not allow rooted phones or custom ROMs, so with that in mind, the Moto X pure edition comes out looking as good or better than a 5.2 inch screen Nexus.
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Same here, but for me QHD is unnecessary...
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I have both the 2014 Moto X and the Moto Maxx. If they do go QHD in the Moto X hopefully they can source a better quality screen then the Maxx uses. It is QHD and offers nothing over the Moto X screen. Myself and friends have compared the screens side by side and the Moto X screen always wins.
The bigger the battery the better. I'd much prefer something closer to the Maxx battery which is 3900 mah. Would have liked wireless charging as well but this is unlikely if it has any kind of curved back.
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Same here, but for me QHD is unnecessary...
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Thanks. Frankly, my original Moto X screen has less banding and artifacts than my 2014. Sad to see manufacturers playing the pixel race.
Solutions Etcetera said:
Thanks. Frankly, my original Moto X screen has less banding and artifacts than my 2014. Sad to see manufacturers playing the pixel race.
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I thought the original Moto X screen was terrible. I could not get rid of that phone fast enough. I could list about 5059383 complaints I had with that phone, but I'll stick to the screen. It looked like absolute crap compared to my Nexus 7 and my Nexus 5 (which I got the day it came out and immediately sold my Moto X). Going from my Nexus 7 screen to my Moto X screen was like going from an HD flat screen TV to a 1950s box-style TV. You can see the list of phones I've owned in my signature, plus I purchased a GS4 for my girlfriend and have some experience using it. I rank the Moto X 2013 at the very bottom of that list without question. On the flip side, I rank the Moto X 2014 #2 on the list, right behind the Nexus 5. That is adjusting for the time frame, of course--I would rather have a Moto X 2014 than a Nexus 5 today, but the Nexus 5 from Oct. 2013-2014 was better than the Moto X Sept. 2014-Sept. 2015.
I'd like to see 1.5 days of heavy use in terms of battery life or two days of moderate use. I'd also like the screen to stay at 5.2" The Nexus 6 is just too big for me.
Good - 5.2" screen size and larger battery. 808 instead of 810.
Bad - QHD screen, waste of battery and will increase cost. Will also cause lag as the 808 chipset tries to push that many pixels.
4GB RAM seems unlikely.
Just realized the SD808 comes with a slower adreno (418) than the SD805 (420). Crap.
I'm waiting on anandtech's review to see what the real difference is between the two GPUs. I'm hoping just a slightly lower clock speed.
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Would have liked wireless charging as well but this is unlikely if it has any kind of curved back.
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Errrr, the secondary coil of the wireless charging system can be curved, no problem with that, the primary coil would still induces electricity on the secondary coil, curved or not.
QHD doesnt necessarily mean battery killer anymore.
With each successive generation Samsung has been systematically improving the power efficiency of their OLED displays. We measured a 20 percent improvement in display power efficiency between the Galaxy S5 and the Galaxy S6, which is especially impressive given that the Galaxy S6 has almost double the number of pixels and therefore much higher processing overhead
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http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S6_ShootOut_1.htm
They can be pretty efficient.
For you guys how much this phone will cost?
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QHD is a technology that is being pushed to the consumers as just benefits. In the future, the cons will be minimized because we will have stringer SOC with minimal impact in this resolution, most energy efficient screens and better batteries. But it's feasible in the near future, not in this year...
I prefer a cheaper phone or a smoother and battery efficient phone now, not 600 ppi in my 5" display...
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Between $674,98 and $687,25 off-contract.
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Between $674,98 and $687,25 off-contract.
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Those are some very specific price guesses!
Steve-x said:
Would have liked wireless charging as well but this is unlikely if it has any kind of curved back.
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But the N6 has wireless charging and a curved back?
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I thought the original Moto X screen was terrible. I could not get rid of that phone fast enough. I could list about 5059383 complaints I had with that phone,
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I love my MX13 - great as a daily driver. Maybe you got a bad one?
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I'd like to see 1.5 days of heavy use in terms of battery life.
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They would have to make the phone thick and heavy like the Droid Turbo/Maxx to get that kind of battery performance. I prefer the lighter, thinner Moto X to the Turbo/Maxx.
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Potato. said:
For you guys how much this phone will cost?
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No one knows yet, but if it is like the Moto X 2014, it will likely be $500 on launch for the base model and $50 more for the larger storage and $25 more for the premium backs. But now that Lenovo owns Motorola maybe not.
These so called leaks always make me laugh. I could have made up a spreadsheet of specs and it would look pretty similar to this. I think these sites makeup these leaks for clicks. My preference would be same screen size at 1080, 3000mAh battery and better camera processing sw.
Same screen better color calibration, same edge thinness but slightly thicker middle to fit a 2800-3000mah battery, camera obviously,
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Hey guys,
I guess if you are lurking in this forum, you must be interested in buying the 3rd gen. Moto G. I got the handset on Friday and have done a quick unboxing video, which you can find below.
Do you guys have any question about the handset? Anything that you are confused about? Let me know and I will be happy to answer. Also, if you want me to make a video on any particular aspect of the handset, let me know that as well. I am no MKBHD or Unbox Therapy or Qbking77, but I will definitely try my best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYQBtzGjMZE
I heard there's a new messaging app.
How does it compare to the older version?
Is there a notification light? Lots of people and reports say no, but I found at least one review showing a pic of one just to the left of the camera.
How's the screen quality? (Overall)
If you have a second or 1st Gen please compare. No sugar coating it either please, many are saying it's worse than its past version but I have SOME hope that it's just all the early models with issues. Or if you have another phone please say. Thank you!
Dilbert83 said:
I heard there's a new messaging app.
How does it compare to the older version?
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The Messaging app has a new icon, but its still the same old app. Not even the new Messenger app from Google.
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Is there a notification light? Lots of people and reports say no, but I found at least one review showing a pic of one just to the left of the camera.
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There is a proximity sensor near the front camera. With Moto Display, you really don't need or will miss the notification LED.
Sensors? Is there a gyro and a magnetometer (compass)? How's the overall feel in the hand, material wise?
Does the phone support dual 4G standby?
Or will it force one sim to be in GSM if the other sim is using 4G?
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Is there a notification light? Lots of people and reports say no, but I found at least one review showing a pic of one just to the left of the camera.
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Could you link that review ? Thanks.
Techguy18 said:
Could you link that review ? Thanks.
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https://www.androidpit.com/moto-g-4g-2015-review
Just looked at it again. Turns out there was another 2015 moto G. While the US got it in September 2014, the UK and other places didn't have it announced or get it until January 2015, hence there are 2 Moto G 4G 2015 model phones out there. One not for the US with 4G being HSPA+, and the other for the US which is the 3rd gen and has LTE, not just HSPA+. My mistake there. When I looked at more pics I saw the backside wasn't the same.
@m4tt94 There is no gyroscope, but a magnetometer is present. Kind of a bummer.
The phone also supports USB OTG
The back has a textured finish, which I really like. Better than the rubbery back of the Moto E 2nd Gen.
BTW, about the performance of the handset: This thing flies. Seriously. Super smooth. Its even faster than my Galaxy S6 (visually, at least). Scrolling in apps, even Facebook, is smooth and without any stuttering.
Are the shaking actions for opening the camera and turning on/off the flashlight reliable?
Does it support 64gb SD (exfat)?
Hi, I use both the gestures. They work perfectly. One thing I love about the chop chop gesture is that when you turn it on or turn it off it vibrates for a few seconds. So no accidental turn ons. They thought it through unlike OnePlus.
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No, there is no gyroscope. But, the phone has dual accelerometers. (This is how the gesture functions work)
Could you test Google Photospheres? And confirm the lack of gyroscope? Use an app like Z device test to display all sensors... because CPUZ shows some 'orientation sensor' .. isn't that a gyroscope?
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Are the shaking actions for opening the camera and turning on/off the flashlight reliable?
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I have used the 1st. gen Moto G, 2nd gen. Moto E and the 2nd gen Moto X extensively. Compared to the Moto X, the camera gesture on the 3rd gen. Moto G is a bit too sensitive. On the X2, I never had false camera startups, but on the G3, I had false camera startup twice. It is likely that it occurred because I was charging the phone using a Quick Charger, so that might be to blame.
Quick Charger? Which model? How long does it take to charge with the quick charger?
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Quick Charger? Which model? How long does it take to charge with the quick charger?
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The one that comes with the Samsung Galaxy S6. I did not notice the charging time the first time around. Will try it again today and let you know.
I can now confirm that the camera gesture is not as reliable as it is on the 2nd gen. Moto X. The camera activated itself a few times without me using the gesture, and sometimes, it did not start despite me doing the gesture. Its not like the gesture is completely broken though. I am just nit piking tbh.
If you put a T-Mobile sim does the phone have Volte?
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I'm interested in buying the Moto X Play.
I know that on Moto X Play there's no Wave to wake function as there're not special IR sensors.
But, On my Moto X 2013 there were no IR sensors too - and it worked fine on 4.4.4.
I found that it's possible making this feature work again using Tasker on 5.1:
https://plus.google.com/+DenHil/posts/g1bwKznW2No
I'd like to know whether it'll work on Moto X Play too?
Any chance that someone try it out on his Moto X Play?
Wave to wake works on all phones. It uses the prox sensor and far as I know its build in every phone. Works with cm and stock roms. For stock rom I use macrodroid to enable it,but tasker should also work.
Thanks,
But whether it's going to work same as the Moto X 2014 / Style? or different behavior
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But whether it's going to work same as the Moto X 2014 / Style? or different behavior
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I only owned a nexus 4 and moto g 4g and it all worked the same. In macrodroid you can adjust this by choosing different settings like : proximity far or near,slow wave or fast wave etc.
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I only owned a nexus 4 and moto g 4g and it all worked the same. In macrodroid you can adjust this by choosing different settings like : proximity far or near,slow wave or fast wave etc.
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I owned a Moto G 2013, the feature worked good and removed on 5.1.
Now I have a Droid Turbo which I broke the screen on- which has this feature in the stock system.
it's to expensive now ordering a new screen - so I decided to by 2nd hand MOTO X Play for now.
Currently I'm using an old HTC One S - it's kind of possible enabling such behavior with apps such as acDisplay, Wave to Unlock, Auto screen on, etc. - but the battery drain is insane with them.
Using the method that I mentioned in the first post isn't working.
Generally in the devices that have this feature in the stock system have AMOLED display (most of them), extra-IR sensors and also an extra processor which taking care of sensors behavior.
If you'll try to use this feature on device that doesn't have the above then three things will happen:
1. You're going to use the main IR (proximity) sensor
2. You're going to use the main CPU for getting the data from the sensor
3. As the display isn't AMOLED then the system have to turn the whole display on a not specific pixels
Those will lead to extra battery drain.
Here's again my question, when using Tasker (if it works?) is the behavior on MOTO X Play is same as on other phones that have that feature in the stock system?
And also is the behavior of Moto Display is same (turning the screen on from waving = turning the screen on from taking the phone in the hands)?
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I owned a Moto G 2013, the feature worked good and removed on 5.1.
Now I have a Droid Turbo which I broke the screen on- which has this feature in the stock system.
it's to expensive now ordering a new screen - so I decided to by 2nd hand MOTO X Play for now.
Currently I'm using an old HTC One S - it's kind of possible enabling such behavior with apps such as acDisplay, Wave to Unlock, Auto screen on, etc. - but the battery drain is insane with them.
Using the method that I mentioned in the first post isn't working.
Generally in the devices that have this feature in the stock system have AMOLED display (most of them), extra-IR sensors and also an extra processor which taking care of sensors behavior.
If you'll try to use this feature on device that doesn't have the above then three things will happen:
1. You're going to use the main IR (proximity) sensor
2. You're going to use the main CPU for getting the data from the sensor
3. As the display isn't AMOLED then the system have to turn the whole display on a not specific pixels
Those will lead to extra battery drain.
Here's again my question, when using Tasker (if it works?) is the behavior on MOTO X Play is same as on other phones that have that feature in the stock system?
And also is the behavior of Moto Display is same (turning the screen on from waving = turning the screen on from taking the phone in the hands)?
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Because of this prox standby drain I always use moto display instead. Moto display uses motion sensors and is very battery friendly. I think it works almost the same like the moto x you are talking about and only difference is it uses some other sensors instead.
Edit: Touching the device puts the screen on and i dont know how,but it also works using a flip cover.Maybe because of a magnet sensor. Not sure but it works .
If its all about your battery life (sot) i should run to the shop. If you keep you screen brightness low and adjust the stock governor settings you can reach over 10 hours sot with light usage using greenify and aggressive doze enabled.
Sickaxis79 said:
If its all about your battery life (sot) i should run to the shop. If you keep you screen brightness low and adjust the stock governor settings you can reach over 10 hours sot with light usage using greenify and aggressive doze enabled.
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it's all about doing the "wave over the phone" gesture and getting the screen turned on with the clock and the circle in the middle without draining my battery in few hours
saturn_frak said:
it's all about doing the "wave over the phone" gesture and getting the screen turned on with the clock and the circle in the middle without draining my battery in few hours
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Few hours? If i use the proximity sensor i still get around 7/8 hours. It drains around 5% battery a day and not a big deal for the battery shipped with the x play.
Try Glance Plus app. I currently using this one in favour of Moto display. It has proximity sensor detection built in.
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Sickaxis79 said:
Few hours? If i use the proximity sensor i still get around 7/8 hours. It drains around 5% battery a day and not a big deal for the battery shipped with the x play.
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why compromising on feature that originally worked on Moto X 2013 4.4.4 and removed on 5.1?
I found that there's a modded MotoActions.apk that I can install and use the "chop twice for flash light" feature which removed also in Moto X Play.
So the Wave to wake feature can be brought back, as it already worked in Moto X 2013
saturn_frak said:
why compromising on feature that originally worked on Moto X 2013 4.4.4 and removed on 5.1?
I found that there's a modded MotoActions.apk that I can install and use the "chop twice for flash light" feature which removed also in Moto X Play.
So the Wave to wake feature can be brought back, as it already worked in Moto X 2013
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Maybe you can better buy a moto x instead if your looking for exact the same features, because its not the same device. You can also think the huge battery is a great compromise for the functions you are missing and can be replaced using other apps and sensors,but the battery aint. Just my opinion.
Sickaxis79 said:
Maybe you can better buy a moto x instead if your looking for exact the same features, because its not the same device. You can also think the huge battery is a great compromise for the functions you are missing and can be replaced using other apps and sensors,but the battery aint. Just my opinion.
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I will buy Moto Z
But for now I have this device...
"Buy Moto X if you want XXX function" is kind of "iOS" style answer
As I mentioned
1. Motorola removed this feature on Moto X 2013 on 5.1,
2. Moto X 2013 don't have extra IR sensors
3. There's modded MotoActions.apk which brings the "chop twice for flash light" back to Moto X Play
The conclusion is simple - it's possible bringing the "wave to wake" feature to the MotoActions.apk - just need a developer to do it (Same as with "chop twice")
What answer do you wanna hear ? Seems like you are looking for an answer that you already know. All functions you mentioned are working on a similar way. Camera is double twist or press power button twice to take a quick picture and the moto display also works perfect and doent drain the battery, but you just want the exact same features on a different device and telling me its an ios style answer. Maybe i can place the ir sensors in the mxp with some special magic for you , if thats what you wanna hear.
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I will buy Moto Z
But for now I have this device...
"Buy Moto X if you want XXX function" is kind of "iOS" style answer
As I mentioned
1. Motorola removed this feature on Moto X 2013 on 5.1,
2. Moto X 2013 don't have extra IR sensors
3. There's modded MotoActions.apk which brings the "chop twice for flash light" back to Moto X Play
The conclusion is simple - it's possible bringing the "wave to wake" feature to the MotoActions.apk - just need a developer to do it (Same as with "chop twice")
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If you want "wave to wake", use something like "Gravity Screen" from the Play Store (or any of the other dozen alternatives) or a custom ROM that has it baked-in. I'm using the unofficial Temasek's "Ambient Display" and its options for it and that's been working very well for me.
I'm sure there's battery drain but it seems pretty minimal, I don't even consider it.
BTW, comparing this situation to the X 2013 doesn't work - that device has completely different guts (SoC/chipset, screen tech, etc.) than the MXP. When I was on stock I've tried the modified MotoActions.apk before and the chop-chop was terrible, not even close to how smoothly it worked on the 2013 which would be another indication that things are different under the hood. Even the Temasek ROM has it (double chop gesture) and I have it turned off because it just doesn't work well.
I'm about to buy a gently used Moto X Pure from Swappa and came here to see what's available as far as cistom roms. I'm kinda surprised by how little development is happening and was wondering if there is a particular reason. I broke my Moto G4 a week ago and its got quite a few Oreo Roms already. I'm not complaining just curious. There are a lot of roms I will miss but if there's no big obstacles in my way I may just try building my first rom here. I'm really excited for the Moto X Pure.
Let's see it was never a flagship. It is over 2 years old...I could go on..
autosurgeon said:
Let's see it was never a flagship. It is over 2 years old...I could go on..
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Yeah youre probably right. Oh well no biggie. As long as it isnt a situation like Loki on some LG phones.
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Yeah youre probably right. Oh well no biggie. As long as it isnt a situation like Loki on some LG phones.
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Another reason I've realized that has not been mentioned, but even in the past as a newer device there wasn't as much development goin on as other premium devices. That reason is that when the Moto x pure was released, it was very optimized and a very stock Google Android device with a few extras from Moto that really enhanced the user experience. In other words it was a device that has no need for custom roms! And in my opinion with that being said and little things like stereo front facing speakers, was in the top 3 devices of that year! And still to this day after using the Moto z, and some other mid range Samsung devices, the pure still Rock's the house lol
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Another reason I've realized that has not been mentioned, but even in the past as a newer device there wasn't as much development goin on as other premium devices. That reason is that when the Moto x pure was released, it was very optimized and a very stock Google Android device with a few extras from Moto that really enhanced the user experience. In other words it was a device that has no need for custom roms! And in my opinion with that being said and little things like stereo front facing speakers, was in the top 3 devices of that year! And still to this day after using the Moto z, and some other mid range Samsung devices, the pure still Rock's the house lol
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Yeah I'm really excited about getting one. Since my Moto G4 broke I've been using my old Nexus 5 and havent had much luck breaking the chop chop habit. I have a 8 month old baby and its been insanely useful. Looking forward to the dual speakers too. Also excited to see one of my favorite roms Validus Oreo from GRZ being developed here for Moto X Pure.
It's 2018. But Moto X Pure still impress me everyday despite so many flagships out there.
1. The chop chop and twist twist gestures
2. The Stock Android with Moto experiences
3. The dual Stereo speaker
4. The great LCD (it's really good imo)
5. The phone design with curved back that fits nicely on hand, build quality and that unique Moto dimple design.
I'n still looking forward for future OREO or newer version of Android being developed for Moto X Pure (Style).
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It's 2018. But Moto X Pure still impress me everyday despite so many flagships out there.
1. The chop chop and twist twist gestures
2. The Stock Android with Moto experiences
3. The dual Stereo speaker
4. The great LCD (it's really good imo)
5. The phone design with curved back that fits nicely on hand, build quality and that unique Moto dimple design.
I'n still looking forward for future OREO or newer version of Android being developed for Moto X Pure (Style).
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I'm completely with you, I did alot of research on Moto X Pure and have had a ton of phones over the years. In my head, I see myself being very satified with it. Nexus 6 was one of my favorites (except I didnt like the amoled screen and the huge size) and this phone reminds me what was good about it but without the stuff I didnt. Plus, since coming from a Moto G4, I found those exclusive Moto features very useful and handy. Also having the FM radio built in has been nice in certain circumstances.
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It's 2018. But Moto X Pure still impress me everyday despite so many flagships out there.
1. The chop chop and twist twist gestures
2. The Stock Android with Moto experiences
3. The dual Stereo speaker
4. The great LCD (it's really good imo)
5. The phone design with curved back that fits nicely on hand, build quality and that unique Moto dimple design.
I'n still looking forward for future OREO or newer version of Android being developed for Moto X Pure (Style).
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Totally man it is 2018, and it's an older phone but the only thing that separates it from newer flagships is the battery, and the chipset! Yet I've always thought due to Moto's optimized software it offset any issues with the snapdragon808. That it performed with other 808's and even phones with the Snapdragon 810! The screen to buddy ratio is even today good, and then it was great! I was also happy to hear somebody give props to the ips lcd screen! I believe it's just as good as any AMOLED screen I've seen! And is way better in direct sunlight! I honestly have to say my favorite phone!!!
@Optimusman
Chipset wise, nothing much you can do unless with third party custom ROM optimisation. Whereas for battery, you can replace it by buying it from online, and you will be back to the "new phone" days. Cuz' thats what I did to my X Pure battery
Talking about screen to body ratio, before the bezeless phone became trendy, Motorola started it first with the old RAZR M Phone. And not forgetting that Moto X's front is symmetrical and proportional from top to bottom. And most of the time, I would rather stick with Moto X Pure LCD screen cuz' of natural colors and the screen brightness. It's really bright and comfortable to look at!
Did I mention that, with all these great stuffs, yet Motorola sold it at an affordable price, not those overpriced pricing!
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Chipset wise, nothing much you can do unless with third party custom ROM optimisation. Whereas for battery, you can replace it by buying it from online, and you will be back to the "new phone" days. Cuz' thats what I did to my X Pure battery
Talking about screen to body ratio, before the bezeless phone became trendy, Motorola started it first with the old RAZR M Phone. And not forgetting that Moto X's front is symmetrical and proportional from top to bottom. And most of the time, I would rather stick with Moto X Pure LCD screen cuz' of natural colors and the screen brightness. It's really bright and comfortable to look at!
Did I mention that, with all these great stuffs, yet Motorola sold it at an affordable price, not those overpriced pricing!
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At what levels do you guys primarily keep your screen brightness set at? When I was on the Moto G4 I kept my screen set at about 50% brightness cause I was mainly indoors and full brightness was overkill.
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At what levels do you guys primarily keep your screen brightness set at? When I was on the Moto G4 I kept my screen set at about 50% brightness cause I was mainly indoors and full brightness was overkill.
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30% or lesser for indoor (day). Because of the battery life.
0% for indoor (night) with bluelight filter.
50%-70% outdoor (under the sun) - usually will keep on adjusting to prevent from wasting the battery juice.
Brightness
I like to get get the most out of my battery, and truthfully this screen is bright as hell lol! So I usually have mine at 30-35%, and in the dark like 5-10%lol
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autosurgeon said:
Let's see it was never a flagship. It is over 2 years old...I could go on..
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I disagree with you on that one friend! It was Motorola's flagship device. The screen was flagship the processor although not the top dog was still Snapdragon 8** series, dual SIM, dual front firing speakers, 21mp camera etc. The list goes on lol the Moto x pure edition was a flagship device
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I like to get get the most out of my battery, and truthfully this screen is bright as hell lol! So I usually have mine at 30-35%, and in the dark like 5-10%lol
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I disagree with you on that one friend! It was Motorola's flagship device. The screen was flagship the processor although not the top dog was still Snapdragon 8** series, dual SIM, dual front firing speakers, 21mp camera etc. The list goes on lol the Moto x pure edition was a flagship device
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Yeah! It was Motorola's flagship at that point of time. Moto X Pure edition was supposed to be using Snapdragon 810 processor. But... because of the heating issue, Motorola had no choice, so they had to use the Snapdragon 808 instead.
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I'm about to buy a gently used Moto X Pure from Swappa and came here to see what's available as far as cistom roms. I'm kinda surprised by how little development is happening and was wondering if there is a particular reason. I broke my Moto G4 a week ago and its got quite a few Oreo Roms already. I'm not complaining just curious. There are a lot of roms I will miss but if there's no big obstacles in my way I may just try building my first rom here. I'm really excited for the Moto X Pure.
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@DerrickTight Hey, saw you mentioning on your first post, that you might be trying to build your first ROM? Any chance you might start doing it?
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Yeah! It was Motorola's flagship at that point of time. Moto X Pure edition was supposed to be using Snapdragon 810 processor. But... because of the heating issue, Motorola had no choice, so they had to use the Snapdragon 808 instead.
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@DerrickTight Hey, saw you mentioning on your first post, that you might be trying to build your first ROM? Any chance you might start doing it?
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I'm heavily considering it but I have a lot of obligations so it wouldnt be something to hold your breathe for. Its something that requires alot of time and patience. Thats why I always say donate to your devs. It isnt easy. Time will tell though, I could use another hobby. Might make something just for me, who knows.
I'm with the No Need to crowd. I am rooted with Magisk and TWRPed. I always ROMed my phones to ditch the factory UI, overhead, and bloat. Other than GravityBox I am all stock. Plus it was cheap.
Why is there not more ROM development? Guess that question confuses me... there are lots of ROMs (and many not on XDA, some would argue the best ones are not here)
The question should be, why is there not NEW/CONTINUED ROM development? Because this device is pushing 2.5 years old, and it is not holding up well and many people are abandoning it. The battery life is pitiful, and the battery longevity is worse, and on top of that there is no good source for "new" batteries... Not to mention that replacing the battery often required more technical expertise than many users have, and they need more parts than they expect since replacing the battery often destroys the back of the phone and requires a new one as well.
For $200-$300 you can get a new device with 3-4 times the battery life, similar processing power, and a reasonable display and camera... It is easy to see why people have been flocking away from this device for a while now. Developers have a hard time supporting a device that doesn't have consistent user base, and with Nougat, Oreo, and newer Android OS's, it is getting more and more difficult to maintain as a developer.
Your "old" Moto G4 was actually newer than the Moto X Pure/Style by a full year, so it would still see development and has a fairly active user base, phones typically have a "development life" of around 2-2.5 years for custom ROMs, people just leave the device for something newer and developers move on. Plus I would bet the Moto G4 sold at least 10 times as many units as the Moto X Pure/Style. Honestly the Moto X Pure/Style bombed (sales wise) and sold only a fraction of the number of units Moto hoped for, which probably accounts for why there was no Moto X "2016" model while Moto scrapped the old X line and gave us the new X4 last year, which is a decent phone, but in my mind is no replacement worthy of the X line.
Don't get me wrong, it is (was) a great phone... I loved mine, the only real problem was the battery life and the heat throttling, and I couldn't be tethered to a charger 2-4 times every day.
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I'm with the No Need to crowd. I am rooted with Magisk and TWRPed. I always ROMed my phones to ditch the factory UI, overhead, and bloat. Other than GravityBox I am all stock. Plus it was cheap.
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The main reason I have rooted and rom'd is for customization. I have a large collection of paid Sub themes too. I've been ad free for over 7 years and I wont go back to the ads experience.
acejavelin said:
Why is there not more ROM development? Guess that question confuses me... there are lots of ROMs (and many not on XDA, some would argue the best ones are not here)
The question should be, why is there not NEW/CONTINUED ROM development? Because this device is pushing 2.5 years old, and it is not holding up well and many people are abandoning it. The battery life is pitiful, and the battery longevity is worse, and on top of that there is no good source for "new" batteries... Not to mention that replacing the battery often required more technical expertise than many users have, and they need more parts than they expect since replacing the battery often destroys the back of the phone and requires a new one as well.
For $200-$300 you can get a new device with 3-4 times the battery life, similar processing power, and a reasonable display and camera... It is easy to see why people have been flocking away from this device for a while now. Developers have a hard time supporting a device that doesn't have consistent user base, and with Nougat, Oreo, and newer Android OS's, it is getting more and more difficult to maintain as a developer.
Your "old" Moto G4 was actually newer than the Moto X Pure/Style by a full year, so it would still see development and has a fairly active user base, phones typically have a "development life" of around 2-2.5 years for custom ROMs, people just leave the device for something newer and developers move on. Plus I would bet the Moto G4 sold at least 10 times as many units as the Moto X Pure/Style. Honestly the Moto X Pure/Style bombed (sales wise) and sold only a fraction of the number of units Moto hoped for, which probably accounts for why there was no Moto X "2016" model while Moto scrapped the old X line and gave us the new X4 last year, which is a decent phone, but in my mind is no replacement worthy of the X line.
Don't get me wrong, it is (was) a great phone... I loved mine, the only real problem was the battery life and the heat throttling, and I couldn't be tethered to a charger 2-4 times every day.
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Would you happen to remember off hand where it was that you may have seen other builds? You could PM me as to not post to links of outside competitors. I have google searched with little hits, but I know alot of Moto G4 roms were posted directly on specific peoples Google Plus.
DerrickTight said:
Would you happen to remember off hand where it was that you may have seen other builds? You could PM me as to not post to links of outside competitors. I have google searched with little hits, but I know alot of Moto G4 roms were posted directly on specific peoples Google Plus.
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Simple Google search will suffice... Dirty Unicorns, Zypher OS and BrokenOS come to mind just off the top of my head. There is a thread here somewhere listing "off-XDA" ROMs.
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Simple Google search will suffice... Dirty Unicorns, Zypher OS and BrokenOS come to mind just off the top of my head. There is a thread here somewhere listing "off-XDA" ROMs.
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I have been searching awhile, so is it true that beside XDA forum there are still other website that post custom ROM ?