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Would you recommend Android 4.4.1 over 4.3?

UPDATE: would you recommend Android 4.4.1 over Android 4.3 on the Nexus 4? Why? Why not?
Okay, a little title change here. So I'm hearing some good things on 4.4.1, so let me ask you a few questions, even if it may be too early at this point:
- anyone who didn't recommend 4.4 before feels like 4.4.1 is major step forward?
- how's battery life, especially in regards of wakelocks and unexpected drainage? Does wakelockdetector work now?
- how's 4.4.1 performance compared to 4.3, both stock, is it definitely snappier?
- how's camera performing to 4.3, how's photoshere stitching?
- anyone running it WITHOUT factory reset and 4.4 & 4.4.1 installed over 4.3, experiencing zero problems?
Thank you!
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Okay I guess it's a question I want answer to, but I posted in the General cause more than a simple answer I look forward to a positive discussion on the matter - is 4.4 stable, app-supported and bug free enough right now to easily recommend the update, would you rather suggest to wait until bug fixes or would you flat out say avoid it?
I added a poll to get a statistical look of the Community's take on this so others can check where 4.4 stands now on the Nexus 4 according to XDA.

Of course, KitKat is a great update. It's the best Android version yet and I love where Google is going with it.

BoneXDA said:
Okay I guess it's a question I want answer to, but I posted in the General cause more than a simple answer I look forward to a positive discussion on the matter - is 4.4 stable, app-supported and bug free enough right now to easily recommend the update, would you rather suggest to wait until bug fixes or would you flat out say avoid it?
I added a poll to get a statistical look of the Community's take on this so others can check where 4.4 stands now on the Nexus 4 according to XDA.
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obviously yes, the 4.4 google nexus update is awesome, dunno for other devices ( in future ). by the time samsung launches it, it will be full of bugs, ala 4.3 for s3

I think everyone who has an unlocked bootloader should for sure. Definitely needs to be ran for a couple days to get a feel for it. If you want customization you'll most likely go back to 4.3 as 4.4 rom's don't have very much. (yet)

Performance and UI changes (if there..) are nice. On the other hand there are too many bugs to recommend it. Also, and this does not apply to many, battery life of my N4 sucks after some days on KK. No, there is no bad app. Ask my bbs stats

ccab said:
Performance and UI changes (if there..) are nice. On the other hand there are too many bugs to recommend it. Also, and this does not apply to many, battery life of my N4 sucks after some days on KK. No, there is no bad app. Ask my bbs stats
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I also have to say my battery life sucks now that I'm on 4.4.
Not sure what it is but I got 12 hours TOTAL. Not even with a lot of use. Most of the time the screen was off and I didn't much use it. That's compared to a full day of life when I was on JB.
I'm wondering if a factory reset would help it.

I'm running KRT16O on my phone and loving it. However, it appears I was one of the lucky ones. No bugs, no bootloop.
KRT16S is obviously not ready for rollout. It's been soft-bricking devices like crazy it seems. I hope Google halts the OTA and fixes this. Until then, I'm sticking with 16O.
Hold off and wait.

So, there are plenty of bugs here, lags on the lock screen, lags in the applications, applications which still doesn't working, camera is making very bad pictures and so on - take a look to android 4.4 bugs forum.
I am back to 4.3 and waiting for 4.4.1.
No, i don't recommend 4.4 on the nexus 4 yet.
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Recommended. I'm on KRT16S with no problems whatsoever. Great fluidity and no bugs.

I think 4.4 has some good news, but not worth it. I was using paranoid ROOM with linaro franco kernel and i`m ready to get it back on my device.

krt16s
KRT16S is very good image,my phone is full apps and all working without problem,i use nova last beta 3 launcher and working realy fast,i dont like GEL icons(too big for me),battery is great,after 10 hours stand by time 4-6 %, ,on screen i think is wery good,betther than 4.3....no FC,no lags,everything work fluid and fast....
i flash with FB,and after flashing factory reset....

It's significantly better than 4.3 IMO. I personally clean flash for every major update after taking a backup, and I'm having absolutely no issues. UI is extremely smooth, no bugs with tethering or anything of that sort and battery life has actually improved.
I'd recommend a clean flash if you have the time, just to be thorough.

I would definitely recommend it. Performancewise...it has never been better imo! I don't experience any of those bugs mentioned above. Smoothness is just amazing.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Thx guys!
Wow, quite difference experiences... so it appears there are bugs, but not for everyone...
How's that ART thing on the Nexus 4? Is it too experimental at this point to be of everyday use?

BoneXDA said:
Thx guys!
Wow, quite difference experiences... so it appears there are bugs, but not for everyone...
How's that ART thing on the Nexus 4? Is it too experimental at this point to be of everyday use?
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I switched to ART immediately upon updating last week. It runs great. I've only had a few bugs(Timely takes about 10 seconds to open). Beyond that, I like it. I let my friend who is using CM 11 on his GNex try it out last night and he was impressed with the performance.
If you get KitKat to install without soft-bricking, you're going to have a good experience IMO. However, due to the risk of bootloop, I cannot recommending the update at this time in good conscience.

4.4 is the best android version so far, and with ART is amazingly smooth!

Sure - I have been using since a day after Google released the factory images and I didn't have a single problem with it. I also flashed zip for transparent nav bar in the lockscreen and installed Nova launcher beta and everything is as smooth as butter

Well, i'm not using ART so far because I don't like to use a hacked lib or an outdated app to be able to use all my apps with it.
That aside, KRT16S has been awesome so far, battery life has improved, the UI is much smoother and with ApexPro 2.2.0 beta 1 the interface has the same transparency as GEL (Which I uninstalled already. I don't like the kiddie-sized icons, it looks too toy-like).

On KTR16S ... Battery is worse than KTR16O which is worse than 4.3 for me... My experience with ART was not great, but probably because my phone is almost full of files and got full (system and free space for storage) after a long time to optimize...after that I didn't notice a better performance and missed some of my apps so returned back to dalvik ...but I would recommend KitKat....I like GEL and about its size icons I changed DPI than got great for me
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bjacks12 said:
If you get KitKat to install without soft-bricking, you're going to have a good experience IMO. However, due to the risk of bootloop, I cannot recommending the update at this time in good conscience.
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I'm sorry I still carry some noobage... install without soft bricking, what do you mean by that? I'm waiting for the OTA but still undecided whether to install when it arrives. Speaking of, if it does, can I install it over 4.3 keeping my apps & settings? I'm unrooted and not planning to.

Just bought a T-Mobile G2, had some questions regarding Development.

I'm a little confused about which forums and roms to follow for my particular model. Seems to be no original development for this version. Do the G2 forums have Roms that are universal with both the d801 (T-Mobile) and others (800, 802, etc...) thanks

FormeriPhoney said:
I'm a little confused about which forums and roms to follow for my particular model. Seems to be no original development for this version. Do the G2 forums have Roms that are universal with both the d801 (T-Mobile) and others (800, 802, etc...) thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-g2

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-g2
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Yes. I understand where the t-mobile thread is... I'm speaking more along the lines on this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/orig-development
Most of those roms, including beanstalk and mandhi rom show they are compatible with almost every carriers G2.

FormeriPhoney said:
Yes. I understand where the t-mobile thread is... I'm speaking more along the lines on this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/orig-development
Most of those roms, including beanstalk and mandhi rom show they are compatible with almost every carriers G2.
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the original android development is all aosp and most people who make roms based on aosp give support to almost all models, there is also the http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/development general thread which is mainly in general multiple device support/devices without dedicated threads

XxZombiePikachu said:
the original android development is all aosp and most people who make roms based on aosp give support to almost all models, there is also the http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/development general thread which is mainly in general multiple device support/devices without dedicated threads
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Thanks. I plan on flashing an aosp rom. I absolutely loved slimkat on my Nexus 5.

FormeriPhoney said:
Thanks. I plan on flashing an aosp rom. I absolutely loved slimkat on my Nexus 5.
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SlimKat on the G2 is super fast. I have a T-Mobile G2 as well. Only problem I had was camera took too long to capture sometimes. And images weren't as good as stock roms.
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mackster248 said:
SlimKat on the G2 is super fast. I have a T-Mobile G2 as well. Only problem I had was camera took too long to capture sometimes. And images weren't as good as stock roms.
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Did you try to flash that LG camera Apk?

That doesn't work since the lgcamera is for stock but you can try jishnus camera mod which has an option for aosp
Sent from my LG-D800 running stock kk, rooted with philz using XDA app

XxZombiePikachu said:
That doesn't work since the lgcamera is for stock but you can try jishnus camera mod which has an option for aosp
Sent from my LG-D800 running stock kk, rooted with philz using XDA app
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Actually in pretty sure this one is for aosp.. Check out out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540030

FormeriPhoney said:
Actually in pretty sure this one is for aosp.. Check out out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540030
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I'll give this a go whenever I decide to go back to AOSP. I lost my recovery going to TMO's official KK, and KDZ'ing back is a nuisance lol.

mackster248 said:
I'll give this a go whenever I decide to go back to AOSP. I lost my recovery going to TMO's official KK, and KDZ'ing back is a nuisance lol.
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Had a question. I should be receiving my g2 tomorrow and I'm hung up on which rom to go with.
Most important features to me are camera & battery life.
In your experience, if you have any... I was looking at either running Pac Rom, SlimKat, or Mahdi rom.
Do you think I'm better off with a rooted stock based rom, and if so which one of those would you recommend.
I'm coming from a Nexus 5 on SlimKat and a Note 3 on jellybeans
Thanks

FormeriPhoney said:
Had a question. I should be receiving my g2 tomorrow and I'm hung up on which rom to go with.
Most important features to me are camera & battery life.
In your experience, if you have any... I was looking at either running Pac Rom, SlimKat, or Mahdi rom.
Do you think I'm better off with a rooted stock based rom, and if so which one of those would you recommend.
I'm coming from a Nexus 5 on SlimKat and a Note 3 on jellybeans
Thanks
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I'm assuming you've ran AOSP ROM's before so you know what that's like. So for me I came from a Nexus 4, I'm as much of an AOSP fanboy as you'll ever meet. The second I got my G2 I rooted it and flashed SlimKat. SlimKat is an amazing ROM, probably the best AOSP ROM for the G2, with Mahdi a close 2nd. It was almost perfect to be honest, the battery life was amazing. I could get 2 days with a charge and about 6 hours of on screen time. Now the ONLY draw back was that the camera sucked balls in comparison to stock LG ROM. While it worked fine 80% of the time, sometimes it was laggy, switching from FFC to rear would hang up, and shutter speed was slow. Quality was decent but not amazing for the pics. And this was the issue with any AOSP ROM.
Because of that, I went ahead and upgraded to T-Mobile's official 4.4.2 KK ROM and it has been very good. I use xposed to do a little modding, but ran it full stock for a week so far and I really like it. With NOVA launcher I'm having no problems, the camera is a tons better than AOSP. The cam app itself has some cool features and the quality plus shutter speed is so much improved. But of course there's a drawback... Battery life isn't as good as AOSP. I'm getting about 1/3 less than what I was used to. But one thing that's not really talked about on the G2 is how ridiculously fast this thing charges. I plug it in at like 10% left, leave my room for about 20 mins, come back and it's at like 58%. So because of that, the lessened battery life doesn't bug me. I still get well over a day on a full charge though, which is a HUGE upgrade in itself compared to my Nexus 4 where I had to charge 2-3 times a day.
Anyways, sorry for the mini rant. If you have another questions, feel free to ask! I've only had this G2 for 2 weeks, but finally getting the hang of the "what to know" for the device.

mackster248 said:
I'm assuming you've ran AOSP ROM's before so you know what that's like. So for me I came from a Nexus 4, I'm as much of an AOSP fanboy as you'll ever meet. The second I got my G2 I rooted it and flashed SlimKat. SlimKat is an amazing ROM, probably the best AOSP ROM for the G2, with Mahdi a close 2nd. It was almost perfect to be honest, the battery life was amazing. I could get 2 days with a charge and about 6 hours of on screen time. Now the ONLY draw back was that the camera sucked balls in comparison to stock LG ROM. While it worked fine 80% of the time, sometimes it was laggy, switching from FFC to rear would hang up, and shutter speed was slow. Quality was decent but not amazing for the pics. And this was the issue with any AOSP ROM.
Because of that, I went ahead and upgraded to T-Mobile's official 4.4.2 KK ROM and it has been very good. I use xposed to do a little modding, but ran it full stock for a week so far and I really like it. With NOVA launcher I'm having no problems, the camera is a tons better than AOSP. The cam app itself has some cool features and the quality plus shutter speed is so much improved. But of course there's a drawback... Battery life isn't as good as AOSP. I'm getting about 1/3 less than what I was used to. But one thing that's not really talked about on the G2 is how ridiculously fast this thing charges. I plug it in at like 10% left, leave my room for about 20 mins, come back and it's at like 58%. So because of that, the lessened battery life doesn't bug me. I still get well over a day on a full charge though, which is a HUGE upgrade in itself compared to my Nexus 4 where I had to charge 2-3 times a day.
Anyways, sorry for the mini rant. If you have another questions, feel free to ask! I've only had this G2 for 2 weeks, but finally getting the hang of the "what to know" for the device.
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Man.. That's no rant Lmao that was more than I could have asked for.
I love aosp as well... My note 3 was on VZW so locked bootloader means no go.
My Nexus 5 was nice but the battery was terrible.
My other gripe was the as you said, the camera quality.
Can't believe they still haven't gotten that down yet. I saw that Google might be releasing a stand alone camera app and I believe opening up the api.. So I bet that will help for devs.
The only reason I'm hesitant to run the stock rom is bc coming from touchwiz, I'm not looking forward to that type of heavy hidious skin again.
Do they have a rooted, debloated stock 4.4.2 rom yet?
Thanks again for the help. Trying to hit the ground running with this phone

FormeriPhoney said:
Man.. That's no rant Lmao that was more than I could have asked for.
I love aosp as well... My note 3 was on VZW so locked bootloader means no go.
My Nexus 5 was nice but the battery was terrible.
My other gripe was the as you said, the camera quality.
Can't believe they still haven't gotten that down yet. I saw that Google might be releasing a stand alone camera app and I believe opening up the api.. So I bet that will help for devs.
The only reason I'm hesitant to run the stock rom is bc coming from touchwiz, I'm not looking forward to that type of heavy hidious skin again.
Do they have a rooted, debloated stock 4.4.2 rom yet?
Thanks again for the help. Trying to hit the ground running with this phone
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My advice is to run stock for a week and see how you like it. LG ROM is not bad at all, especially since I expected it to be very bad since I dislike TouchWiz so much.
Yes there's a stock debloated ROM, but newer G2's (like mine) can't run it. Only the official one works. just have to wait for root and recovery to come for KK.

mackster248 said:
My advice is to run stock for a week and see how you like it. LG ROM is not bad at all, especially since I expected it to be very bad since I dislike TouchWiz so much.
Yes there's a stock debloated ROM, but newer G2's (like mine) can't run it. Only the official one works. just have to wait for root and recovery to come for KK.
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I should add that the phone is coming to me with TWRP 2.7 and Paranoid Android latest Beta 3 nightly. Would it be possible for me to flash the stock debloated?

FormeriPhoney said:
I should add that the phone is coming to me with TWRP 2.7 and Paranoid Android latest Beta 3 nightly. Would it be possible for me to flash the stock debloated?
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Oh okay, then good chance you can. Just flash it through TWRP and if you don't get white lines then you're good to go. Worse case scenario, you just wipe and reflash something else. Also, flash the KK radio before flashing the official KK ROM.

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Oh okay, then good chance you can. Just flash it through TWRP and if you don't get white lines then you're good to go. Worse case scenario, you just wipe and reflash something else. Also, flash the KK radio before flashing the official KK ROM.
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OK cool. With a phone with an internal battery.. How do I shut down and/or boot back into recovery manually?
Also.. Is the kitkat radio a T-Mobile specific radio listed in T-Mobile Android development?

FormeriPhoney said:
OK cool. With a phone with an internal battery.. How do I shut down and/or boot back into recovery manually?
Also.. Is the kitkat radio a T-Mobile specific radio listed in T-Mobile Android development?
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I'll link you to the radio thread when I get home. When phone is off, press and hold the power and volume down. Then press press power button twice after you see the white fastboot screen.

mackster248 said:
I'll link you to the radio thread when I get home. When phone is off, press and hold the power and volume down. Then press press power button twice after you see the white fastboot screen.
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Excellent. Thanks

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Excellent. Thanks
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Which G2 do you have? Hopefully it's not Verizon?

Recommend me a Rom?

Hey guys,
Recently got my self a Note 3 and I am having a terrible experience with the ROMS... I have a Note 2 still with DN3 and that is flawless, but with my Note 3, I have tried S5 Full port and that is slow, crashes and lags for me, S5+N4 ROM is good for a while then just starts to freeze up and crash, won;t allow my phone to turn on.
Anyone know why this is? I am dong all the steps before hand, wiping caches, wiping phone, leaving phone for 10 minutes and I still get issues even after a full fresh install.
Could someone help me and try and fix some of these problems or is it the phone itself as I have seen no one else have these problems?

My favourite is ray man's V19 light roms and X-note V21. I'm currently using X note and it's great!

Thanks for the reply I tried X-note and it as great, nice and fluid but it having it' sown theme, I didn't like it one bit /: And I couldn't seem to find a way to change it..

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RC ROM is an S5 port and its been wonderful on my Note 3 900W8. best battery life on a TW ROM. no crashes, no corrupted data, no nothing out of the ordinary. almost everything works except, video call (which you can replace with skype obviously) bluetooth tethering (tell me who uses that) and screen mirroring (also too, who uses this just get an MHL and get rid of lag).
You´re welcome
RC Elite ROM

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RC ROM is an S5 port and its been wonderful on my Note 3 900W8. best battery life on a TW ROM. no crashes, no corrupted data, no nothing out of the ordinary. almost everything works except, video call (which you can replace with skype obviously) bluetooth tethering (tell me who uses that) and screen mirroring (also too, who uses this just get an MHL and get rid of lag).
You´re welcome
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Thanks for the reply, I'll be flashing this tonight

I've been like you on DN3 with note2. And I have stayed on stock until there is no proper N4 port.
Note3 is so powerful and full of futures that those roms out there not changing much as it was in
Dn3 case.
Of corse I have root, kernel changed and some improvements.
Just my opinion
Regards

Spunkiest said:
Hey guys,
Recently got my self a Note 3 and I am having a terrible experience with the ROMS... I have a Note 2 still with DN3 and that is flawless, but with my Note 3, I have tried S5 Full port and that is slow, crashes and lags for me, S5+N4 ROM is good for a while then just starts to freeze up and crash, won;t allow my phone to turn on.
Anyone know why this is? I am dong all the steps before hand, wiping caches, wiping phone, leaving phone for 10 minutes and I still get issues even after a full fresh install.
Could someone help me and try and fix some of these problems or is it the phone itself as I have seen no one else have these problems?
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After testing a multitude of ROMs, TW based and AOSP, I have come to this conclusion.
If you need your phone to be fast as hell, I recommend one of the two Lollipop builds we have for now, they've become somewhat stable even at this early stage, and both devs seem to have focused on that, so you've got bugfixes every day. And, like I said, the phone will be extremely fast. I've never before had such speed on that Nope 3.
But my own setup right now consists of:
1. This ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2649176
This ROM is as close to stock, stable as stock and still be tweaked.
2. Flashed this theme: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2719942
3. For good battery life I added this kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2488082
Now after all this is flashed, I wanted it to look differently, I got the xposed framework and installed Wanam's xposed module, which can tweak colors and behaviors that no app or launcher can change. LIKE THE GODDAMN GREEN PUKED-ON LOOKING GREEN STOCK QUICK SETTINGS.
Also, for good battery life I got the 10 000 mAh ZeroLemon battery.
That's my two cents.

sirobelec said:
After testing a multitude of ROMs, TW based and AOSP, I have come to this conclusion.
If you need your phone to be fast as hell, I recommend one of the two Lollipop builds we have for now, they've become somewhat stable even at this early stage, and both devs seem to have focused on that, so you've got bugfixes every day. And, like I said, the phone will be extremely fast. I've never before had such speed on that Nope 3.
But my own setup right now consists of:
1. This ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2649176
This ROM is as close to stock, stable as stock and still be tweaked.
2. Flashed this theme: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2719942
3. For good battery life I added this kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2488082
Now after all this is flashed, I wanted it to look differently, I got the xposed framework and installed Wanam's xposed module, which can tweak colors and behaviors that no app or launcher can change. LIKE THE GODDAMN GREEN PUKED-ON LOOKING GREEN STOCK QUICK SETTINGS.
Also, for good battery life I got the 10 000 mAh ZeroLemon battery.
That's my two cents.
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Downloading now. It seems that any ROM I have, a day or so later it will just turn slow sluggish and doesn't want to load up any apps. Have you ever heard of this before?

Spunkiest said:
Downloading now. It seems that any ROM I have, a day or so later it will just turn slow sluggish and doesn't want to load up any apps. Have you ever heard of this before?
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No. Was your phone new or second hand?

B3311 said:
No. Was your phone new or second hand?
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Bought it from my mum, she got it but went back to an iPhone, around 3 weeks old, maybe 4.

[Q] Be real with me here... is Lollipop worth it?

I've read through just about every Lollipop thread on this Verizon forum. I'm currently sitting on rooted 4.4.2, happily enjoying some pretty stable performance and battery life thanks to debloating, Amplify, Greenify and the like. With Nova Launcher and all of the Material Google apps, the interface can be made to look a lot like Lollipop as is.
Given all of the challenges that have come along with the update (battery, performance, root issues, beta Xposed support compared to 4.4.x), can those of you who have made the leap answer one question with a justification as to why - Was upgrading your Verizon Galaxy S5 to Lollipop worth it?

Wasn't worth it to me. Played with a couple lollipop ROMS for a week and now I'm back to 4.4.4.
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If your not the type that needs to be on the latest version and your happy with things as they are now, leave well enough alone. Newer is not always better, besides there are very limited 5.0 roms right now.

You know the old saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it"! I haven't updated yet im still on beans Alliance rom and it run fantastic and battery life is exceptional so i don't see a solid reason to move on. This is probably the longest I've been on any rom but it has some nice customizations and i use xposed for a few things so im content. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.

I tried 5.0 but found that a few apps don't work on it yet. I went back to 4.4.4 and will probably stay there until rooting 5.0 is easier and more apps get updated.

For me I've given it about 2 weeks now, and i give it a big no. Mostly for how bad the battery life is and how sluggish it gets throughout the day. Going to go back to KK this weekend....

I have been using rom-v6-0-touchwiz-modness-lollipop-4-t3035513 and am extremely happy with it. you dont get to have Exposed on it but i only used exposed for turning off charging sounds and theming whitch you can do with the moar controls on this rom

I played with LP bit came back to 4.4.4 NK2 and NK7.
There were too many things in LP that I didn't really like, starting with the battery life. It isn't as good as KK.
Now I'm running stock NK7 debloated with the NI2 debloater and no mods but it runs the way I like it. And battery is amazing !
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While on lollipop, I had nothing but problems. My gear fit and g watch were both pretty flaky on holding a connection and Bluetooth would randomly reset for no reason. Battery life was horrid. I found that I didn't enjoy being on lollipop, it felt like my phone was just hobbled together. Back to KK and I couldn't be happier.
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Should I upgrade to Android M?

I'm asking this question because I want input from users who did upgrade and I'm not sure if I need the upgrade or not.
I'm currently going by the logic: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I'm quite happy with how Android L with the stock Kernel works on my device and after looking at the features that Google advertises for M I discovered that I can live without most of them.
I'm mostly interested in the new battery management system, app permissions, overall performance improvements in apps and general usage and some misc things like the new copy/paste thingy.
So let's say that of all the above, I'm mostly interested in the new battery management system. How well does it in you experience work? How much more usage do you get out of your phone? Do the new Doze and App Standby features really work as well as Google advertises them?
Also how stable is Android M on the Nexus 4? This is the main thing that is keeping me from upgrading. I would rather stay on stock then get a few new features that may or may not work well or even worse, get a phone that crashes every 5 minutes.
I'm currently looking to use the Pure Nexus Project ROM (because I want the pure Google experience) and the TAURUS Kernel (heard a lot of good things about this Kernel and it works well with the ROM I've chosen by the reports of some users).
So what do think? Is it worth it to upgrade to M or should I wait for the next major Android version?
Thank you for reading.

I have been using One Of A Kind ROM (OCT 31, Build) and it has been rock solid for me. My phone's battery definitely lasts longer than stock Lollipop ROM. We are talking a couple of hours extra. The Doze feature works well, there is very little battery drain on standby. You will see that from battery stats. You will be waiting for a while until next iteration of Android. As you know Google has stopped supporting Nexus 4, it will be at least few weeks to a month before we get anything going for our beloved Nexus 4. Even then, the stability won't be guaranteed.
I think there are a few stable ROMs out there. Back up everything and give it a try. Worst case scenario, you go back to what you had.
I tried M, and I am not going back to Lollipop.

Yes, you should. Doze makes a difference for me, and the permission stuff is always useful to have. If you find yourself confortable with stock L, then you should flash "stock M", which is, in my opinion: Fake Nexus ROM.
I had same doubts one month ago, and I tried with a few ROMs out here, searching for stability, battery life, without compromising performance. I stopped on the ROM I linked you, try it!

Thank you both for your input.
I have decided to not upgrade for the time being.

It does have noticeable improvements, the system is smoother, battery life is longer (you should probably install Grennify to further improve the new Doze mode and App Standby functionalities),
and it comes with app permission control.
With regard to stablization, I have been using the PureNexusProject rom and the TAURUS kernel for nearly a month, no reboot no crash, no bizarre behaviors, everything seems fine and I really enjoy it.
I personally recommand you to try it, anyway it's the new Android!

I'm loving android M, Doze is really working to me!
So I think you should give it a try.

LORD MJ said:
Thank you both for your input.
I have decided to not upgrade for the time being.
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Why?

TheArt. said:
Why?
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For a number or reasons. It's mostly that I'm happy how things are working right now and I don't have time to upgrade. Also, I don't have enough space to fully backup my apps.