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8125 Battery Alternative

I recently left my Cingular 8125 in Bootloader mode over night, connected to my PC not knowing that it couldn't charge while in that mode. I woke up, and couldn't turn it on; I eventually found out that the battery couldn't charge while in Bootloader mode.
The only solutions that I've seen posted are to: (A) Get another charged battery, (B) Charge your battery in a working Wizard
Both solutions aren't possible for me at the moment... what I needed to know is if there is a way to charge using some funky wiring rig using standard AA batteries to power it for about 7-10min. or so.

Cut one end off an old usb cable. Then plug the usb cable into your computers usb port and touch the black wire to the (-) on the batt and the red wire to the (+) on the battery. It takes a few minutes, but the battery will charge. Then put the battery back in the phone and boot into the os. Then charge the phone as usual.
Jeff

You can jump some wires to your battery from a battery charger to get some power to your battery --- need 5.7 volts -- positive to positve, negative to negative but I would not recommend doing this. Your battery is a lithium Ion which takes a special charge. Take it to a Cingular Store and ask the clerk if they could just charge it up in another phone for a couple of hours. I'm sure they won't mind.
Lithium Ion batteries are fussy about how they are charged, so its best to do it in another phone or a charger made for your battery.
Cheers!

Thank you guys sooooooooooo much for the info.
You have no idea how important this is.
EDIT: I stripped the USB cable, the outer wire is silver and there is quite a bit of it... there are four wires encased in the middle: one black, one brown, one red, one orange... I do not know which wires to connect to the pads on the battery.

how to charge htc 8125 with no original usb cable and(or) without orig. wall charger

hi there.
shortly-i have this phone with no orig. usb cable and with no wall charger. it was friend of mine phone actualy. given to me with dead battery (i am not sure but i have trouwn it away long time ago)
first I did was to wait until friends of mine from china had sent to me 2 batteries compitable with the phone. what i discovered is that a normal ordinar usb cable cant charge the phone's battery it only can connect to the pc.
second what i did is this: i found my old charger from a very old panasonic cell phone and had a try to make the charging process with the simply contacting corresponding pinouts of the battery to the +&- of this same charger (somehow i dissasembled the plug of that charger and it became more "comfortable" to get in touch to the pinouts of the specific cingular's battery)
that unordinar way i did discovered that i can charge these batteries even not sure how much appropriate that other brand wall charger is. It seems its pretty much the same as a power characteristics.
Meanwhile (as i dont use this phone) i had some free time to search the net and to have better idea about that strange unordinar power charging matter with that model of a phone. The situation is that i cant find a place nearby me to buy a cheap usb and wall charger and become using this nice device finaly.
And also i dont want to buy these cable things before clearly understand why this happens ..
I did try also to charge this phone with a HTC brand wall charger but no sucsess again cause it seems this wall charger is for other htc phone (even same mini usb plug and same characteristics)
What i need is to have answers by someone very informed about that matter and let me know what exactly is the specific power charging matter (need explanations i mean) with this phone. If sharing some good ideas about how to remake others usb cable or wall charger for geting it work along for me in such a case , i will appreciate this very much
thanks

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hi ! please forgive me for my bad english! in this case you can charge your phone in 1 way! you need to procure a motorola or any charger with same socket but attention the charger must have 6 volts and no less than 500 mAh(milli amps)! you cut the wires and one wire put on the + of the battery you will see the signs on the battery an one wire at the - no matter which one. and you need stay with the wires 3 - 4 minutes on the battery ! then you put the battery on the phone it will start and then you cand fully charge it with the usb cable ! good luckk ! i hope my inf will help you!

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no it doesnt work that way.
what i need is the simple answer : what is so special into the pinouts of htc cingular 8125 wall charger?
thats what i need only. Then I might figure out how to proceed
Thanks anyway

I don't know if anyone else has had trouble doing what I have done, but I've got the Cingular 8125 (HTC Wizard 100), which is also known as the HTC 8125.
1. I bought a car charger at a convenience store for $6 that had the mini-USB plug. It worked like a charm. Never any problem there.
2. I also bought a standard USB to mini-USB cable from the local computer store, because I had lost mine, and it also worked fine for both synchronization and for charging.
3. I bought a second wall charger, buying a standard mini-USB wall charger sold pretty much everywhere cellular phone chargers are sold. It's a common charging port, and this generic worked for me as well.
I'd be interested to hear if anyone has had problems with these types of devices not properly charging the unit.
Even my USB cable for my portable USB hard drive will power my unit.
EDIT: About your problem with it not charging. I had that problem about a year ago, when my battery got extremely old. It wouldn't charge even with the original charger. I just needed a new battery. The batteries get old and stop taking a charge after a certain amount of use. How long this takes depends on how heavily the batteries are used. They, like car batteries, do not last forever.

I had this problem when I had my wiz too. The battery died and drained, and my phone refused to charge it. I took it to an AT&T service center, and they had no clue what the problem was, and they wanted to issue me a replacement (it was a G4, I had a G3, I wasn't about to fiddle with that at the time.) So I asked to borrow a demo device they had there to fix it. I charged my battery on their demo device no problem, got it up to 3%, and finished charging it through my USB cable in the car socket.
It appears to be a sort of one-in-every-few-or-so type condition, but I got hit with it.

seems like noone can tell me if something special inside the mini-USB plug.
i realy cant charge. Very nice device, but i cant make it charging up whit cables.
guys, from up there, say that nothing special about the charging cables, but i trust what i see not what i read.

Perhaps there is a problem with your USB port on the device? USB charging has standards, and all devices that need power from a USB port have the same power pin configuration. Otherwise, they can't call it a USB connection. It would have to be called a proprietary connection, and they would have to change the plug size/dimensions and pins.
If there isn't a problem with your battery (which is the most likely source of your problem), then it may be a loose connection on your USB connector. This happens with a number of devices.
If a sync cable connects to the PC but will not charge the battery, then you definitely have an unusual pin detachment of some sort, or a bad battery.

thanks again..
for pity i was writing a lot to make my recent post and finaly it desapeared cause my session was left.. its funny in some case, but now i just dont want to repeat all what was intended to be posted
i give only the link where you might see why i was assuming that this is a kind of a special matter here with that htc 8125 charging
//pinouts.ru/CellularPhones-A-N/razrv3_charger_pinout.shtml
so, any more help will be appreciated a lot
thanks

SOLVED: HTC Wizard (Cingular 8125) Dead Battery Wont Charge
Dozzen said:
hi ! please forgive me for my bad english! in this case you can charge your phone in 1 way! you need to procure a motorola or any charger with same socket but attention the charger must have 6 volts and no less than 500 mAh(milli amps)! you cut the wires and one wire put on the + of the battery you will see the signs on the battery an one wire at the - no matter which one. and you need stay with the wires 3 - 4 minutes on the battery ! then you put the battery on the phone it will start and then you cand fully charge it with the usb cable ! good luckk ! i hope my inf will help you!
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Hi - Too bad for the OP that asked questions but did not listen to this brilliant post.
I have confirmed that a variation of this method works perfectly! I have an old Cingular 8125 that I have been trying to charge for over a year using various USB chargers and NONE would charge the device.
The reason that this may happen is that the original charger has an output of 1 full amp which is much higher than most chargers. The voltage is the same but you need a charger that can handle such a strong current draw.
Nearly all USB chargers can only handle around 250milliamps - 500milliamps which is about half the power needed to breathe life into a fully discharged battery.
The best solution is to NEVER let the battery fully discharge.
Here are the details of what I did:
1. Find the best match charger of 5-6 DC Volts and ability to put out as close to one amp (1000mA) as possible. I chose an old Sanyo SCP-07ADT that is rated at DC 5.4V at 800mA. The plug can be any type, no need to be USB.
2. Cut the connector off the end of the cable and strip the outer black part up about an inch and then strip the positive and negative (red / black respectively) wires up about a millimeter, just enough to have bare metal ends to touch to a small area.
3. Take your battery out of the phone, look at the back of battery for the + and - marks which correlate to one of the metal connection points on your battery, this is where you will "touch" or "attach" the bare ends of the wires.
4. Plug the charger in making sure not to short your bare leads. Before you do this double check that the OUTPUT of your charger is indeed DC voltage so that you don't hurt yourself. You do not want AC output and it can be dangerous.
Then touch the bare end of the red wire to positive of battery, and black wire to negative terminal of your battery. I held them with my fingers while surfing the web for about five or ten minutes. I had no idea if anything was happening or not but it "felt" like the battery might have gotten just a bit warmer.
5. Unplug the home-made bare wire charger and put battery in your phone. Quickly attach a USB charger or just plug into a USB cable of your computer. I pushed it in and nothing happened at first but finally I heard the standard "bleep" when you plug a USB device in. I knew that I made progress because it never beeped before it took about 30 seconds and several "bleeps" of connecting/disconnecting from USB but eventually the charge light stayed on!
It's been about 30 minutes and I'm up to about 50% charge and been using the phone heavily while charging.
So, in summary... never let your battery discharge below 5% or you can only charge it with an OEM cable rated at 1amp (rare). IF you let it discharge to "dead" then charge for 5-10 minutes with the "wire" method and then charge normally!
Thanks to Dozzen for the original idea!!

Wizard that won't charge
When my Wizard/HTC 8125 goes dead my cure for the battery is to use a 9 volt charger with the wires stripped back also. But, my method is a bit different. I place a standard Christmas Tree light bulb (the newer small ones)in series with the charger wires. Observe the correct polarity. The battery is labeled + and - so that part is easy. By using the small light bulb you are doing 2 things. 1.You can see the slight glow from the bulb and know that proper connection is made. 2. You are limiting the charging current to the battery.
If you get really creative like I did you can solder a couple of small nails or in my case a set of red and black probes to the setup and the points on these nails/probes make for much easier connections. Note.... This method may take a few minutes longer but, is much easier on the battery.
In my experience once the battery is below a certain level NO charger that I plug in will work. I just purchased a used 8125 from eBay and brought it back to life most successfully with this method.

hy there my htc wizard battery whos dead so i charched with a cable with + and - the phone starts but when i try to connect to a usb or a adaptor it doesnt charge anymore it show me the charge icon on the baterry but it doesnt charge the usb works fine it's sync to my pc but it doesnt charge anymore... what sould i do?

So it seems no one touched on what really matters here.
A design flaw, in my opinion. The HTC Wizard cannot recharge via USB unless there is enough power to turn on. The reason is because it requires the OS to charge.
So, what many people already posted are very creative ways to charge your 8125. The easiest and cheapest way, in my opinion, is to use AA batteries.
1) Take two AA batteries and tape together so they are in series. Imagine it like this... [- AA battery #1 +][- AA battery #2 +]
2) Use two wires and tape one to each side of the AA's (one on the + side and another on the other battery's - side since the - of the first battery is connected to the + of the second).
--w-i-r-e--[- AA battery #1 +][- AA battery #2 +]--w-i-r-e--
3) Connect the positive (+) wire to the positive (+) side of the phone. By this I mean the 6 metal pieces that stick out to contact the phone battery. I did it by wrapping the wire around the top most one (or second top most, it's been over a year since I've done this.).
4) Connect the negative (-) wire to the negative (-) side of the phone. Again, bottom most or second bottom most (see #3).
5) Insert phone battery while the wires are still in and connected to the two AAs.
6) Let the power flow for 30 seconds or so and then try turning your phone on. This part is the important part because you cannot use a USB to mini-USB connected to your computer to charge the phone unless the operating system can function. Meaning, it needs to be turned on first.
7) Once the phone is on, plug in the mini-USB part and connect it to a computer. I'd recommend getting at least 5% battery before disconnecting the AAs, seeing as you need to be able to start up your phone long enough for the OS to boot. Once the OS boots, you can fully charge it through a normal USB to mini-USB connection on any computer.

old post but just wanted to say thanks. Used the wire to battery method and got phone turned on after 2 mins of holding wires to battery.

Any harm in charging my phone this way ?

Equipment
Xbox 360
Sony Ericssoon W995 , data cable. (i think their all the same)
Method
I cut and then revelaed the 4 wire's used in the data cable. I removed all unnecessary bits from the cable leaving just the red and just the black cable.
I revealed a bit more of the cable inside the red and black cable by taking off the outer coat. then connected the + and - up from the wire's (red and black) to the + and - on the phone. put my battery in the slot which holds the cable nicely.. Plug in the USB cable to the xbox 360
Before i tried this i wasnt quite shore if this would work. but it seems to be going well and has a pretty fast charging time. Fully charge my phone in a hour, not sure how long the official charging method takes
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Ok, why did i do this? .. Basically I left my data cable for the X10 in college and its the weekend and bank holiday monday. which means i have to wait till tuesday before getting it back.
Am i causing damge to the battery or phone? I am keeping a close eye not to over charge my battery, i always take it off when it hits 100

If I understand it correctly you are now charging your battery directly with 5 volt from the Xbox USB.
And without any control over it?
This is in my opinion not a wise thing to do. You are overcharging your battery, and a LiPo battery can explode rather nicely from what I have read.
I've You somehow connect the 5 volt to the correct pins in the microusb connector of your phone, the the electronics in the phone are overseeing the charging process.
I would never do, what you are doing now.

[Q] Official Samsung Qi charging problem

Ok so I bought official charging backplate for my Note 4 and my wife's S5 along with two separate Samsung mini charging plates. Last night we installed the cases and place our phones on their own pad. Mine was in the living room and hers in the bedroom. My phone was at about 50% before I popped it on the charging pad. When I placed it on there I got the charging beep on the phone, green light on the pad and a little message that the phone was charging wirelessly. Same with my wife's phone. Woke up this morning and the battery percentage didn't move on either of our phones. My phone is still at 50%ish and she reported her phone didn't charge as well.
What gives? Any suggestions? Both our phone show charging when on the pads and the green light turns on which means it is charging correctly as per the instruction booklet.

Check the specs on that pad and see how much it outputs. I suspect it is not enough for these larger phones. It may just be enough that they don't lose charge. I use the TYLT Vu Wireless Charging pad and it charges up over night on my Note 4 very reliably.

you need a high power usb connection for charging pads and a good pad.
i have a choetech, itian and a few others which work well IF they are connected to a high power usb port otherwise they dont work. some of them will flash leds or the phone will say connect/disconnect continuously. they need to be connected to a usb wall wart or computer socket or car cig lighter port directly. a usb hub or old usb 1.0 port will not do. a low power charger will also not do but that is less likely. chances are youre not supplying it with enough power and/or not aligning correctly.

So last night I made sure that all apps were closed and that the phone was exactly centered on the pad. This morning it was at 100%. It's a 2a charger that came with the pad and since there is about 50% loss with these charger I'm assuming it charges around 1a once it hits the battery. Seems to work now. Thanks!

phone shouldnt be centered on the pad. the coils are offset by around 3/4-1 inch from the center so the phone will be a bit high (or low depending on how you place it). obviously if you have the 3 coil qi charging mat/rectangular plate instead of the 1 coil disks/plates then you can just throw it on in anywhere and it will charge.

wireless charging

hi
could anyone recommend a wireless charger suitable for yota phone 2 which can be purchased in uk
never bought one before but guessing that there must be a specific output mA/h and frequency ?? that must be compatible??..
seen lots on ebay suitable for galaxy and iphones but dont know if compatible
thanks for any help - (nothing on yota site to buy)

I've bought a Qi charger like this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Charger-Google-Samsung-BC252R/dp/B00FEAH0WW/
I use it mostly to recharge my Moto 360 smartwatch, but I've used it with the Yotaphone 2 as well, it seems to work fine.
The nice thing is that it's really compact, although it may not be what you're looking for.
I think that basically any Qi charger should work fine, I'm not aware of any frequency/voltage/output issue when using Qi chargers, although those sold online usually claim compatibility with a specific set of devices.

Nice

I can confirm that the Qi charger works well, the Yotaphone does automatically predict that the phone will be charged in a ridiculous amount of time, like 4x as fast as using a high current cable charger, but it does seem to be the fastest way of charging the device. My charger was from eBay and didn't cost a lot about GBP7.

Is there no official wireless charger?
Sent from my YD201 using Tapatalk

There's the official wireless charger sold by Yotaphone on their website, but it doubles as a portable USB/Qi battery charger, so it's definitely bulkier than most Qi chargers found on the net. It does work as expected, though...
I've been using this for some time now, but I rarely use the Qi function (I often use my phone while charging it, which requires the USB cable unless you can tap the phone's screen without moving the phone on the Qi pad, which I consider on the slippery side).
Also, the bulk/energy capacity of the official battery isn't the most impressive I've seen, wchich is to be expected since they had to fit the Qi electronics on top the battery cell under the cover.
Overall, still a useful & stylish piece of hardware, though...

I bought a Wireless Charger from Samsung and had the same problems which some of you described. The Phone started charging and then stopped with a blinking charger after 20 Seconds.
My solution was: Since this was a QI Charger with an output of 2A, i made the error of using a USB Charger with output of 1,5A. I switched the usb-charger and used one with an output of 2A and connected it to the QI Base.
And now it works. So my suggestion: Use a Charger with 2A.

My very cheap Chinese wireless charger is now working well after I gave up on it for not charging. As in other cases, the yotaphone has a mind of its own and takes a few days to change.

I bought Spigen Wireless charger from Amazon UK. Though Yotaphone detects and charges, I see the below issues
1. The charging time from ZERO to 90 takes around 3 hours. The remaining 10 percent takes ages (more than an hour)
2. When the phone is charging and if the screen turns OFF, the charging stops which makes the screen turns ON with LOCK Screen. Again the charging starts and this cycle continues. I had to use an app called Snoozy Charger which minimizes this issue (by turning the screen OFF when charging is detected)
But, one good thing I noticed with this ultra slow charging: The battery life looks much better. For example, I had a screen time of 45 minutes before the charge dropped from 90 to 87.

If somebody need original Yota mobile charger, I can order it from Yota directly.

Well, since the thread has already been necromanced:
I understand fairly little about wireless charging but am I right to assume that all wireless chargers require the phone to lie on it on its back? Or is that due to my charger being too weak or cheap or whatever? I would love to charge the phone wirelessly with the epd being visible because, after all, that side has all my notifications and the time and what have you.

i use this one from the IKEA
works great on my YotaPhone 2
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/products/...pad-for-wireless-charging-white-art-60308308/
( also working on my Windows 10 mobile phone & samsung s7 )
micheal

megasounds said:
i use this one from the IKEA
works great on my YotaPhone 2
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/products/...pad-for-wireless-charging-white-art-60308308/
( also working on my Windows 10 mobile phone & samsung s7 )
micheal
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But does it work while the phone is lying on it's front screen? So that the EPD is visible while charging?

There is definately variations between chargers. A cheap ebay charger that I have does not work with some cases on my other phone with Qi charging. But a more robust three coil Nokia wireless charger works perfectly with it. Unfortunately my Nokia wireless charger does not work with YotaPhone face down... the charging light on the charger keeps blinking so it is close to charging but not enough. Some a little more powerful charger would be able to do it I think. Unless the desing of Qi only works on one side of the phone.

DeVadder said:
But does it work while the phone is lying on it's front screen? So that the EPD is visible while charging?
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yes its working face down with my IKEA Qi charger
micheal

Not charging laying on the front on my IKEA nordmarke​ triple pad. On the back it charges fine.

knooier said:
Not charging laying on the front on my IKEA nordmarke​ triple pad. On the back it charges fine.
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its charging while laying on the frontscreen on my IKEA SINGLE pad. I do not know for the triple one ??
Again the single pad is working great

Great it works on an single pad ! But I wanted to use it mobile..like in my car or motorcycle.
Sadly i know now it doesn't use an usb kind of charger but an 19 volt (??) adapter.

knooier said:
Great it works on an single pad ! But I wanted to use it mobile..like in my car or motorcycle.
Sadly i know now it doesn't use an usb kind of charger but an 19 volt (??) adapter.
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The only trick is to supply min required amperage for the charger requirements. You can find exact output values on the wireless charger. General manner: input amperage must be near/high as far as the ouput amperage. My Chinese cheap wireless charger output is 5V and 1.5A. And i can use it with 5v 1.2A AC charger problem-free.
Update:
i discovered that the cable is also an issue for the reason. If you connect a normal power support only cable to the Qi charger, you will probably be faced the problem. But if you connect a Data cable, you can use your PC's usb with your Qi charger. I can use it now like the way.

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