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Ok I got the X10 a few days ago.. loving it.. now..
How do I extend the life of the battery? I know theres a ton of topics on this but I can't seem to get more than 12hours..
- I use StartupAuditor and pretty much stopped most apps from running at start.
- I use ADW Launcher
- I use JuiceDefender
- Timeout - Screen timeout after 15s, lock after 2mins
- Schedule - Enable APN/Wifi for 1m every 15secs (for Moxie Sync/Mail - Push)
- Screen - Leave APN/Wifi enabled while screen unlocked (So it disables it after it has been locked)
Any help is appreciated.
After a couple of weeks your battery life should get better with out you having to do anything. Just be patient and let it fully discharge before recharging. Also restart your phone after a full charge and after using wifi and gps.
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force close the face recognition will save alot of power, face recognition sucks the cpu hardly!
wingz85 said:
After a couple of weeks your battery life should get better with out you having to do anything. Just be patient and let it fully discharge before recharging. Also restart your phone after a full charge and after using wifi and gps.
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Discharing a battery is bad isnt it?
Well your problem may lay here
"- Schedule - Enable APN/Wifi for 1m every 15secs (for Moxie Sync/Mail - Push)"
Your using Moxier which other X10 users have identified as a huge power user and according to you, your also using APN/Wifi for a minute every 15 seconds..........so it's essentially never turning the APN/Wifi off :-S
Hope this helps!
Also fully discharging your battery every now and then is actually beneficial for your battery.
Quite certain the 1 minute every 15 seconds is a typo
Juicedefender defaults to 1 minute ever 15 minutes.
I removed ATK and Juicedefender, I found they only screwed up things in the phone and after removing them I noticed no change in battery life. (If anything, my battery life increased after removing ATK)
The best things for battery I have found to be.
-- Alternate launcher (I use ADW, I think Helix is better for battery performance but ADW has more options).
-- First 5 charges, discharge battery completely and do this again once every month or so
-- After full charge, power cycle phone (Turn off/on)
-- Use quick settings to turn off GPS, WiFi and Bluetooth when you are not using them
-- Make sure you back out of programs when you're done with them. This will close most applications so they are not running in the background. Certain apps (like a dolphin browser) have exit functions under more options. This is useful as back will just go to the previous page.
Note: Force closing applications which you see open in the background may use more battery as it may just start up again. Constantly killing and opening the program will use processor/battery power. Whereas many programs, when open in the background, are not using active process power and Android OS will pause/stop applications which are not in active use, by default.
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- Timeout - Screen timeout after 15s, lock after 2mins
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Where can i find the timout setting for the lock?
Screen brightness turned down. Wifi instead of 3g. That's what I do. And I think I get around 15 hours. Still kinda bad. But better than nothing.
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From my experience..
I find 3G has better battery life than WiFi, unless you are constantly browsing. When 3G is active, but you're not browsing the web and stuff, I find it doesn't use much battery. WiFi, however, uses up loads of battery when the phone is idle.
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Where can i find the timout setting for the lock?
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I want to know that as well Tried to find in phone settings but couldn't figure it out
Battery barely gets drained by wifi in idle state. you just go into wireless settings and set wifi sleep policy to when screen turns off.. should be fine after!!
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Mano, not sure if this is what ya after! but here goes.. go to settings, sound and display, then screen timeout!!
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As per my last question, discharging is bad isn't it? With these batteries, you have to constantly charge them so they don't loose life
Edit: Also.. if I press home button or back button that doesn't close the app.. most apps don't close like that, so I have to use ATK to kill it.. is it fine to leave apps running in the bg like that?
Edit: So I should uninstall ATK?
I also JUST got an X10 about 2 weeks ago! My battery life was so bad at first, and I ended up trying most of these battery saving apps. But to be honest, I found that they did more damage than good.
I now have everything I don't use turned off. Bluetooth, WiFi (when I'm not home at least) etc. Just skim through settings and turn off anything you don't think you'll use. And I restart my phone every morning and I get 30-50 hours out of it, depending on use. It is definitely getting better with time too.
For ATK, I would uninstall it as generally killing tasks does more harm than good. If you use it intermittently and only when necessary (and not use auto-killer) you could keep it installed.
As for apps running in the background..
-- If you press back, it should close most apps (not all, but well designed apps should)
--The Android OS is designed to pause/stop apps/processes which are not being actively used by the user and will close them eventually if left unused
-- ATK is generally only freeing RAM which is not important. It is not like Windows in the sense that more free RAM = faster speeds. It is a lot more like, more free ram = more wasted ram.
Here is a link to where I found out most of this information.
http:/geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
As for WiFi sleep policy, thanks for pointing this out. It seems that my phone is already set to sleep WiFi when the screen is turned off. I find this weird as I have found significantly reduced battery life when I turn WiFi on, even when my phone is mostly unused/idle.
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Mano, not sure if this is what ya after! but here goes.. go to settings, sound and display, then screen timeout!!
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Thank you so much Mobzter, but i was not after that As Sashi said that he has set "Timeout - Screen timeout after 15s, lock after 2mins", I know about about screen timeout but "Lock after 2 min", How? Thnak You anyway ^^
@mano. Good question. I can only find screen time out as well.
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i have noticed some thing strange ,the phone lasts more with apps open in backgroung than when i close them . and using my phone consumes less battery than leaving it in standby .very strange phone (may be only mine ) any confirmation.
Hey Hoss,
I can confirm that force-closing/killing apps seems to be worse for battery life than leaving them alone. Backing out of apps usually will stop any cpu usage, but leave the app running. Killing/closing them will just result in more cpu power to run it when necessary.
As for standby vs usage - I have the opposite experience. The battery life on my x10 lasts a lot longer when I am working all day and not using my phone very much.
Terul
How many have actually bought this? Is it a huge increase in battery life? My phones battery life is really poor and I am wondering if this purchase resolves that. I use wifi all the time, like its on 100% of the time I am at home and such, even when Im not using it
Mark271 said:
How many have actually bought this? Is it a huge increase in battery life? My phones battery life is really poor and I am wondering if this purchase resolves that. I use wifi all the time, like its on 100% of the time I am at home and such, even when Im not using it
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Get Tasker instead. Same feature and much more
kolyan said:
Get Tasker instead. Same feature and much more
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I read that, is there anyway I can find out what to do with Tasker to save battery life?
Like, what are some awesome things with Tasker. I see people post but it is usually people really not know what to do and such.
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I read that, is there anyway I can find out what to do with Tasker to save battery life?
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As far as battery goes, u can control brightness, wifi, gps, data, syncs, and bluetooth. I personally have custom time settings for brightness and screen timeouts, that's it.
kolyan said:
As far as battery goes, u can control brightness, wifi, gps, data, syncs, and bluetooth. I personally have custom time settings for brightness and screen timeouts, that's it.
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Could you say, turn wifi off after 2 minutes of screen time out, and turn on after 1 minute of screen on?
A lot of people are saying it uses more battery life, definitely not what I want.
Mark271 said:
Could you say, turn wifi off after 2 minutes of screen time out, and turn on after 1 minute of screen on?
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U can tell Tasker to do anything u want. Both Tasker and Juice Defender can drain battery if u configure them wrong.
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A lot of people are saying it uses more battery life, definitely not what I want.
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It depends on how you use it. If you have Tasker using your GPS every 2 minutes (the default) to detect your location then yes, it's going to suck power.
I have mine set up to use the Near WIFI option to detect when I'm at work or home, and like you I leave my WIFI on all the time. It uses very minimal power.
Leaving WIFI on isn't too big of a deal. It goes to sleep after 5 minutes of the phone being off, and it pings out every so often to see what networks are there, but the power draw is minimal.
Last weekend I tested out Juice Defender to see how long my battery could last. 1d8h53m (~33hours) later my phone hit 10%. I plan on testing again this weekend with Juice Defender disabled to see what kind of difference there is.
I have used Juice Defender for about a week now and while I have found substantial battery savings I have also noticed that on its default settings it also causes issues for me. The main way juice saves battery is by turning off data services for 14 min out of every 15 min when the screen is off.
The problem I run into with this is that if you use gtalk or any instant messenger it will disconnect and reconnect you from those services. I have missed messages due to this. It also seems to affect the status of your friends on gtalk. My friends would always show offline until i sent them a message to "wake up the service" then they would show accurately until the screen went off again.
Overall for me the tradeoffs were not worth it. Also I was never thrilled with the idea of having to wait up to 13 min to get an email, push email should be instant.
Just my 2 cents
U can save battery by configuring brightness. Ex. I have auto brightness from 8-7 and min setting other times.
12 hours and my phone was dead with MINIMAL use, then I started to use switchpro to disable my data when im not using it. usually have my brightness about halfway down, and now my battery lasts 20 hours easy with alot of texting, a few calls, and games. I need to try tasker but this way works pretty well... if you haven't tried it yet
Does anyone know if using the Green Power app will conflict with settings in the default battery manager?
ie i have green power set to turn wireless off for 30min and then on for 2min.
but i also have my custom battery saver mode to completely turn data off during off-peak hours after 15min of inactivity.
I would like for Green Power to work under my battery saver mode. aka i want battery saver mode to take precedence.
thanks.
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Does anyone know if using the Green Power app will conflict with settings in the default battery manager?
ie i have green power set to turn wireless off for 30min and then on for 2min.
but i also have my custom battery saver mode to completely turn data off during off-peak hours after 15min of inactivity.
I would like for Green Power to work under my battery saver mode. aka i want battery saver mode to take precedence.
thanks.
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Its like making two bosses settle for one more one less. Might create conflicts. I use 'super power' to turn off wifi. But then don't use internal battery settings.
yea i think im just going to mess around with both individually and see which one gives me better battery life.
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yea i think im just going to mess around with both individually and see which one gives me better battery life.
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Green Power doesn't work that well on mine; wifi & data are toggled randomly, wifi stays on when screen is off, etc.
I was just mailing with the dev of Green app; he doesn't know either why it happens; ""Low level things like Mobile Data (and Wifi) are quite device specific. Which makes life harder for Android developers than iPhone developers..."".
Waiting for further response, will post here if anything changes..
whenever Green Power turns off my mobile data, it will stay off forever until i reboot. i can get calls and sms, but data will not work. turning off green power and cycling airplane mode doesn't work either.
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whenever Green Power turns off my mobile data, it will stay off forever until i reboot. i can get calls and sms, but data will not work. turning off green power and cycling airplane mode doesn't work either.
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The same thing happened to me once, but after a reboot it has never happened again.
Lazyboy006 said:
The same thing happened to me once, but after a reboot it has never happened again.
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wish i had the same luck. it's still doing it
Vangelis13 said:
Green Power doesn't work that well on mine; wifi & data are toggled randomly, wifi stays on when screen is off, etc.
I was just mailing with the dev of Green app; he doesn't know either why it happens; ""Low level things like Mobile Data (and Wifi) are quite device specific. Which makes life harder for Android developers than iPhone developers..."".
Waiting for further response, will post here if anything changes..
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dLo GSR said:
wish i had the same luck. it's still doing it
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Considering the Atrix has a built in Battery Manager maybe if you set the built in one to the Max Performance where there is no restrictions then use a 3rd party battery manager?
It just seems there will be some conflicts.
dLo GSR said:
wish i had the same luck. it's still doing it
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Are any of you that are having this problem using widget locker? I was using widget locker on mine and GP couldn't recognize when the phone was unlocked... something to consider... I don't use it now (running Gingerblur) and GP works like a CHARM. One of the best apps on my phone
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Are any of you that are having this problem using widget locker? I was using widget locker on mine and GP couldn't recognize when the phone was unlocked... something to consider... I don't use it now (running Gingerblur) and GP works like a CHARM. One of the best apps on my phone
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I use the internal battery manager only for the screen dimming when it hits a certain percent. Green Power does all the rest and I get killer battery life. I suggest you all do the same. Ditch the 3rd party launcher and set up Green Power with the settings listed in the battery thread.
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Are any of you that are having this problem using widget locker? I was using widget locker on mine and GP couldn't recognize when the phone was unlocked... something to consider... I don't use it now (running Gingerblur) and GP works like a CHARM. One of the best apps on my phone
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stock locker. GP has frustrated me now that i've stopped using it. the only way to get my data connection working again was to stop the program. even cycling airplane mode did nothing.
dLo GSR said:
stock locker. GP has frustrated me now that i've stopped using it. the only way to get my data connection working again was to stop the program. even cycling airplane mode did nothing.
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Running any weird power control widgets? I'm using the stock android power control for all of that nonsense and it works perfect. Maybe some widgetsoid/third party something isn't registering?
It's a shame, and I hope it starts working for you bc it really is a great thing.
Right now I'm at 1d 1h 32m 18s since unplugged.
Ive had similar issues with green power on my N1 running CM7RC2.
I have noticed the issue seems to be linked to the Day and night mode Toggle if screen ON/Toggle if screen unlocked options
If these options are turned on then app may work for a while and then after some time data will just stay on and never turn off
If these options are off service will work for requested On/Off durations but wont turn data back on when screen is on or unlocked even if manually selecting to enable it.
I tried with this tasker rule set also but didn't seem to work
http://tasker.wikidot.com/datacheck
Wondering what all you guys do/use to maximize your battery life.
I am on power saver, auto brightness, using greenify, and froze bloatware so it couldn't run in background. I've read mentions of juice defender. Does that really help? I know there are roms that are supposed to help too (I'm mdl rooted and tw recovery installed and that's it).
Tia for sharing your tips.
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Wittyusernametaken said:
Wondering what all you guys do/use to maximize your battery life.
I am on power saver, auto brightness, using greenify, and froze bloatware so it couldn't run in background. I've read mentions of juice defender. Does that really help? I know there are roms that are supposed to help too (I'm mdl rooted and tw recovery installed and that's it).
Tia for sharing your tips.
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Just curious how much overall time, screen on are you getting and what's your usage ?
You probably want to look for betterbatterystats and see if any wakelocks are eating the battery..
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Just curious how much overall time, screen on are you getting and what's your usage ?
You probably want to look for betterbatterystats and see if any wakelocks are eating the battery..
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I'm on it a great deal since I really don't use our computer anymore. I get 7-10 hours depending on if I have a busy day or not. I got 6 on my iPhone 5 because I was on that all the time too.
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im on mf3 and using mdob rom using safestrap. major MAJOR increase in battery life plus in addition to titanium backup, greenify and wakelock detector.
I am on one of the GPE ROMs, I don't use NFC or Bluetooth, generally I have GPS off as well, and I sit at 80% after probably an hour of screen time and 5hr screen off. I almost always have 100% brightness.
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I am on samsung stock. My battery only used to last 6-8 hours during the day
After 24 hours I generally have 40% battery left.
I switched off notifications for most apps except for Gmail and Whatsapp from Settings -> More -> Application Manager -> gmail -> Show notifications
Also switched off Samsung Link and Samsung Push from Settings -> More -> Application Manager
Set the screen timeout to 15 seconds, auto brightness
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I am on samsung stock. My battery only used to last 6-8 hours during the day
After 24 hours I generally have 40% battery left.
I switched off notifications for most apps except for Gmail and Whatsapp from Settings -> More -> Application Manager -> gmail -> Show notifications
Also switched off Samsung Link and Samsung Push from Settings -> More -> Application Manager
Set the screen timeout to 15 seconds, auto brightness
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I froze all Samsung boat so don't have that but I did turn off notifications for everything but Gmail, voxer and chompsms.
Safestrapped - using Graviton ROM
Greenify - to hibernate all but messages, primary weather/clock widget, chaton, etc (stuff that needs to be running)
Lux - to adjust screen brightness based on light in the current area - in a dark room, I dont need it to be 100%, only outside do I need 100%
Hibernate is not like freezing in Titanium Backup, it is stopping a process (and its wakelocks) and unloading it from memory.
Greenify does this (checking of applications that need to be hibernated) when the screen is off. Since the programs (say FireFox with flash enabled looking at a very animated site) is not running in the background, your battery life is increased. Also, as it is unloaded from memory, your phone feels 'snappier'.
Now if you go nuts and greenify all apps, such as messaging you will not get any message unless you start your messaging program. If you greenify a clock, it will look like it is stuck.
Lux uses the light sensors on you phone to determine how bright of a room you are in. For example, if I am in my living room at 11 am, it is very bright in there. I have Lux bump up my brightness to 50%. At 8 pm, it is pretty dark, 50% is a little too much so I have Lux drop it down to 20%. And if I am outside I have Lux push it to 100%.
Your screen is usually your biggest energy consumer
I am happy to say I get 13-18 hours of life from my phone with middle to heavy use with games, and about 5 hours of talk on LTE (which drops down) because I do not have great reception where I live
Good luck finding your combo to give you better battery life
If i can Root my 9005 - i intend to use Greenify,, as my battery is very poor (stock i'm lucky if i get 8-9 hours light/moderate use)
Is it a rated app,, can i expect big battery gains?
Thanks.
Depends which apps you have installed and how you use them. For example facebook drains much battery so you coukd greenify the app but if you do so you wont recive notifications anymore from it aslong you arent actively using the app.
In other words it prevents apps from wacking up.
As someone who already always manually force-closed all running apps, all I noticed was an increase in free time, as greenify is faster at it.
I didnt notice any increase in battery life.
If you don't manually force-close your apps, it'll probably have a bigger impact.
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You will have some slight increases of battery of you force close the apps wich cause many wake locks like what's app
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JCM800 said:
If i can Root my 9005 - i intend to use Greenify,, as my battery is very poor (stock i'm lucky if i get 8-9 hours light/moderate use)
Is it a rated app,, can i expect big battery gains?
Thanks.
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It seems to help mine. I run it with the Xposed Module that adds features that still preserve the notifications from Facebook, etc. I also have it set to boost mode for it to work faster.
I also haven't noticed much of an improvement. Many people swear it's a miracle app, for me it only turns off notifications.
True battery saver: green power payed version (on Google play). Set the phone to sync once at 4h and turn off wifi and mobile data on screen off. Awesome app, I tell you.
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I also haven't noticed much of an improvement. Many people swear it's a miracle app, for me it only turns off notifications.
True battery saver: green power payed version (on Google play). Set the phone to sync once at 4h and turn off wifi and mobile data on screen off. Awesome app, I tell you.
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I do all that myself manually.... Sync always off and I turn Wifi or mobile data on when I need it, and turn it off when I'm done.
Cheaper than buying an app, too.
The real saver for me has been LUX. With our climate and the time I spend indoors, a brightness between -20% and 4% is more than sufficient. Now THAT saves battery! With brightness at 4, I loose 1% per 15 minutes whilst browsing! With it at 50, 1% per 5 minutes. At 100%, 1% per 90 seconds.
And when i use it in the dark, - 70%. I barely lose any charge at all whilst being an insomniac. It's been 20 minutes, still on 55% charge, which it also was 20 minutes ago. WiFi on, eWeatherHD update on, Tapatalk, Facebook and Firefox in use.
(if websites used less of that eyesore white, it'd save even more.)
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I would suggest to remove some bloatware comes with the ROM / firmware itself.
It safes much battery though.
As well as turn on location, and on it when you want to use it.
And I freeze some apps which is running in background (which greenify can't detect it), which I don't use it as well.
and change to a good kernel.
it will really have a good deep sleep, never up if I never wake it up.
the apps running in background is only messenger apps like whatsapp, viber, and that kind of stuff. I never freeze this one and never put it on greenify as well.
So far so good.
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I also haven't noticed much of an improvement. Many people swear it's a miracle app, for me it only turns off notifications.
True battery saver: green power payed version (on Google play). Set the phone to sync once at 4h and turn off wifi and mobile data on screen off. Awesome app, I tell you.
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I might look into that app. I go with the "free" lol DIY manual turn data/wifi off thing too, but sometimes I forget and I see wifi on when I had turned it off or so I thought. some apps are worth the couple dollars or so and I might very well get this one. Thanks for the tip on it. I like too that it automatically turns on wifi or data such as when you go to read an email or something.
You can also give these a try:
- Deep Sleep Battery Saver
- Juice Defender
- Tasker (You can configure it to auomate nearly anything, from 'turn on wifi at this and this gps location' to 'shut up completely between 2200 and 0800'. Does a lot of non-battery related things too, like launch a specific app when plugging in headset, or automatically move photo's from internal to SD.)
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You can also give these a try:
- Deep Sleep Battery Saver
- Juice Defender
- Tasker (You can configure it to auomate nearly anything, from 'turn on wifi at this and this gps location' to 'shut up completely between 2200 and 0800'. Does a lot of non-battery related things too, like launch a specific app when plugging in headset, or automatically move photo's from internal to SD.)
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Juice defender is a dead project and 2 years old. Greenpower is basically the same app but still supported.
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You can also give these a try:
- Deep Sleep Battery Saver
- Juice Defender
- Tasker (You can configure it to auomate nearly anything, from 'turn on wifi at this and this gps location' to 'shut up completely between 2200 and 0800'. Does a lot of non-battery related things too, like launch a specific app when plugging in headset, or automatically move photo's from internal to SD.)
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Hey thanks! I did go ahead with Green Power yesterday and I have to say I notice enough of a difference for sure. My usage has been with a phone call, check messages, several texts, check email a few times and some light surfing. i'm at 89% at 8 hours pulled off 100% charge and would have been lower for sure into 70s at best. definitely notice.
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