Does anyone know if using the Green Power app will conflict with settings in the default battery manager?
ie i have green power set to turn wireless off for 30min and then on for 2min.
but i also have my custom battery saver mode to completely turn data off during off-peak hours after 15min of inactivity.
I would like for Green Power to work under my battery saver mode. aka i want battery saver mode to take precedence.
thanks.
Lazyboy006 said:
Does anyone know if using the Green Power app will conflict with settings in the default battery manager?
ie i have green power set to turn wireless off for 30min and then on for 2min.
but i also have my custom battery saver mode to completely turn data off during off-peak hours after 15min of inactivity.
I would like for Green Power to work under my battery saver mode. aka i want battery saver mode to take precedence.
thanks.
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Its like making two bosses settle for one more one less. Might create conflicts. I use 'super power' to turn off wifi. But then don't use internal battery settings.
yea i think im just going to mess around with both individually and see which one gives me better battery life.
Lazyboy006 said:
yea i think im just going to mess around with both individually and see which one gives me better battery life.
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Green Power doesn't work that well on mine; wifi & data are toggled randomly, wifi stays on when screen is off, etc.
I was just mailing with the dev of Green app; he doesn't know either why it happens; ""Low level things like Mobile Data (and Wifi) are quite device specific. Which makes life harder for Android developers than iPhone developers..."".
Waiting for further response, will post here if anything changes..
whenever Green Power turns off my mobile data, it will stay off forever until i reboot. i can get calls and sms, but data will not work. turning off green power and cycling airplane mode doesn't work either.
dLo GSR said:
whenever Green Power turns off my mobile data, it will stay off forever until i reboot. i can get calls and sms, but data will not work. turning off green power and cycling airplane mode doesn't work either.
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The same thing happened to me once, but after a reboot it has never happened again.
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The same thing happened to me once, but after a reboot it has never happened again.
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wish i had the same luck. it's still doing it
Vangelis13 said:
Green Power doesn't work that well on mine; wifi & data are toggled randomly, wifi stays on when screen is off, etc.
I was just mailing with the dev of Green app; he doesn't know either why it happens; ""Low level things like Mobile Data (and Wifi) are quite device specific. Which makes life harder for Android developers than iPhone developers..."".
Waiting for further response, will post here if anything changes..
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wish i had the same luck. it's still doing it
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Considering the Atrix has a built in Battery Manager maybe if you set the built in one to the Max Performance where there is no restrictions then use a 3rd party battery manager?
It just seems there will be some conflicts.
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wish i had the same luck. it's still doing it
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Are any of you that are having this problem using widget locker? I was using widget locker on mine and GP couldn't recognize when the phone was unlocked... something to consider... I don't use it now (running Gingerblur) and GP works like a CHARM. One of the best apps on my phone
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Are any of you that are having this problem using widget locker? I was using widget locker on mine and GP couldn't recognize when the phone was unlocked... something to consider... I don't use it now (running Gingerblur) and GP works like a CHARM. One of the best apps on my phone
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I use the internal battery manager only for the screen dimming when it hits a certain percent. Green Power does all the rest and I get killer battery life. I suggest you all do the same. Ditch the 3rd party launcher and set up Green Power with the settings listed in the battery thread.
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Are any of you that are having this problem using widget locker? I was using widget locker on mine and GP couldn't recognize when the phone was unlocked... something to consider... I don't use it now (running Gingerblur) and GP works like a CHARM. One of the best apps on my phone
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stock locker. GP has frustrated me now that i've stopped using it. the only way to get my data connection working again was to stop the program. even cycling airplane mode did nothing.
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stock locker. GP has frustrated me now that i've stopped using it. the only way to get my data connection working again was to stop the program. even cycling airplane mode did nothing.
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Running any weird power control widgets? I'm using the stock android power control for all of that nonsense and it works perfect. Maybe some widgetsoid/third party something isn't registering?
It's a shame, and I hope it starts working for you bc it really is a great thing.
Right now I'm at 1d 1h 32m 18s since unplugged.
Ive had similar issues with green power on my N1 running CM7RC2.
I have noticed the issue seems to be linked to the Day and night mode Toggle if screen ON/Toggle if screen unlocked options
If these options are turned on then app may work for a while and then after some time data will just stay on and never turn off
If these options are off service will work for requested On/Off durations but wont turn data back on when screen is on or unlocked even if manually selecting to enable it.
I tried with this tasker rule set also but didn't seem to work
http://tasker.wikidot.com/datacheck
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I'm sure at one point i had to hold it down for a few seconds before the phone switched on (while in an off state). What i find annoying now is that when i press the button to see whether it is off or on standby, it instantly switches itself on (it's a minor thing, but still annoying). Anyone know how i can change it back?
As far as i know, the button has always switched the device on instantly with just a simple press.
no found this change also, and was annoyed for the same reason
this is good feature for battery saving i use this method to switch off screen when i gotta leave the phone while reading web pages.
foxcheng said:
this is good feature for battery saving i use this method to switch off screen when i gotta leave the phone while reading web pages.
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Haha same .
Why would you turn the phone off instead of turning the cellular off/use airplane mode?
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Why would you turn the phone off instead of turning the cellular off/use airplane mode?
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conserve power overnight when not in use?
hm.. my x1 doesn't use any energy at all when it's in sleep mode overnight.
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hm.. my x1 doesn't use any energy at all when it's in sleep mode overnight.
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That's right.
Flight mode and standby is as good as switched off, but alarms still work what I consider very important.
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That's right.
Flight mode and standby is as good as switched off, but alarms still work what I consider very important.
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surely it's consuming more battery while it's on (even on flight mode), than it's switched off? I have a separate alarm, so it's not an issue.
Eh?
How is any of this related to the OPs question?
The phone does switch on with a simple press, but there is a slight delay after you let go. Any misconceptions I think would be based on the fact that I am so used to using phones that have always required a press and hold to power on.
I make no mistake, the Xperia need only be touched once to power on.
Atleast as far as firmware R2A_10 goes.
perhaps use the keyboard slider to check if the phone is on.
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How is any of this related to the OPs question?
The phone does switch on with a simple press, but there is a slight delay after you let go. Any misconceptions I think would be based on the fact that I am so used to using phones that have always required a press and hold to power on.
I make no mistake, the Xperia need only be touched once to power on.
Atleast as far as firmware R2A_10 goes.
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Indeed, when i switched from my P990i to my X1i i used to press the power button the X1i for a while because i thought thats what SE phones need! It was only after a couple of weeks that i realised that actually it just turns on with an instant click....magic!
Hi,
Just coming to Android from Windows Mobile....
With Windows Mobile you can have the screen blank after so many minutes when on battery OR so many minutes (or never) when on mains power.
Any way of doing this with the Nexus One?
Thanks.
You could install Power Manager and it'll let you control all sorts of things based on time, battery level, whether it's plugged in, etc.
It used to be a lifesaver on the G1 with its battery problems. Haven't tried it on the N1 though.
Also from WM. It would be nice to have some way of managing the sleep timeout...looks like mine turns off after a few minutes of inactivity?
galaxys said:
Also from WM. It would be nice to have some way of managing the sleep timeout...looks like mine turns off after a few minutes of inactivity?
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Go to Menu>>settings>>sound and display>>screen timeout. you can set it to several preset values. Power Manager from the market will do this but allow for it to be different depending on whether it is plugged in or not.
finisterre said:
Hi,
Just coming to Android from Windows Mobile....
With Windows Mobile you can have the screen blank after so many minutes when on battery OR so many minutes (or never) when on mains power.
Any way of doing this with the Nexus One?
Thanks.
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I would also recommend buying setcpu from the android market I believe its still a buck. Then go into profiles, click profiles on, enable sleep/standby and set sleep/standby max to 245. Will save you a ton of battery usage!
QMAN101 said:
Go to Menu>>settings>>sound and display>>screen timeout. you can set it to several preset values. Power Manager from the market will do this but allow for it to be different depending on whether it is plugged in or not.
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Excellent, 10 or 20 min's should do the trick for now!
Try out Screebl. It's in the Market. It keeps the screen on as long as you're holding it in a position like it's being used. If you turn it upside down on the table (for example), it knows you're obviously not using it, and the timeout is set to 30 seconds or something like that. Everything is totally customizable, including thresholds for what angles trigger it... there's an option to timeout even when upright if it sits perfectly still for a while... it's an awesome battery saver, and eliminates the annoyance of unwanted screen timeouts while reading or something. I love it. Also, SetCPU's profiles are a great way to go if you're rooted. Power Manager was the first paid app I ever bought, and it was worth it--it really does extend the G1's crappy battery life, so it has to help here, too.
Locale will let you change settings based on the status of your phone.
Presuming it works with the Nexus One (I'm still on a G1), it will let you change the birghtness/screen timeout when it is plugged in/unplugged. It's also generally a useful app for changing settings based on location/time of day.
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Locale will let you change settings based on the status of your phone.
Presuming it works with the Nexus One (I'm still on a G1), it will let you change the birghtness/screen timeout when it is plugged in/unplugged. It's also generally a useful app for changing settings based on location/time of day.
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Locale works with the N1 =)
I tried Locale...
Specified if on mains then screen timeout is never. This works while it's plugged in, but when I unplug the mains the screen still stays on permanently rather than reverting to 1 minute timeout.
Any ideas?
Ok I got the X10 a few days ago.. loving it.. now..
How do I extend the life of the battery? I know theres a ton of topics on this but I can't seem to get more than 12hours..
- I use StartupAuditor and pretty much stopped most apps from running at start.
- I use ADW Launcher
- I use JuiceDefender
- Timeout - Screen timeout after 15s, lock after 2mins
- Schedule - Enable APN/Wifi for 1m every 15secs (for Moxie Sync/Mail - Push)
- Screen - Leave APN/Wifi enabled while screen unlocked (So it disables it after it has been locked)
Any help is appreciated.
After a couple of weeks your battery life should get better with out you having to do anything. Just be patient and let it fully discharge before recharging. Also restart your phone after a full charge and after using wifi and gps.
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force close the face recognition will save alot of power, face recognition sucks the cpu hardly!
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After a couple of weeks your battery life should get better with out you having to do anything. Just be patient and let it fully discharge before recharging. Also restart your phone after a full charge and after using wifi and gps.
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Discharing a battery is bad isnt it?
Well your problem may lay here
"- Schedule - Enable APN/Wifi for 1m every 15secs (for Moxie Sync/Mail - Push)"
Your using Moxier which other X10 users have identified as a huge power user and according to you, your also using APN/Wifi for a minute every 15 seconds..........so it's essentially never turning the APN/Wifi off :-S
Hope this helps!
Also fully discharging your battery every now and then is actually beneficial for your battery.
Quite certain the 1 minute every 15 seconds is a typo
Juicedefender defaults to 1 minute ever 15 minutes.
I removed ATK and Juicedefender, I found they only screwed up things in the phone and after removing them I noticed no change in battery life. (If anything, my battery life increased after removing ATK)
The best things for battery I have found to be.
-- Alternate launcher (I use ADW, I think Helix is better for battery performance but ADW has more options).
-- First 5 charges, discharge battery completely and do this again once every month or so
-- After full charge, power cycle phone (Turn off/on)
-- Use quick settings to turn off GPS, WiFi and Bluetooth when you are not using them
-- Make sure you back out of programs when you're done with them. This will close most applications so they are not running in the background. Certain apps (like a dolphin browser) have exit functions under more options. This is useful as back will just go to the previous page.
Note: Force closing applications which you see open in the background may use more battery as it may just start up again. Constantly killing and opening the program will use processor/battery power. Whereas many programs, when open in the background, are not using active process power and Android OS will pause/stop applications which are not in active use, by default.
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- Timeout - Screen timeout after 15s, lock after 2mins
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Where can i find the timout setting for the lock?
Screen brightness turned down. Wifi instead of 3g. That's what I do. And I think I get around 15 hours. Still kinda bad. But better than nothing.
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From my experience..
I find 3G has better battery life than WiFi, unless you are constantly browsing. When 3G is active, but you're not browsing the web and stuff, I find it doesn't use much battery. WiFi, however, uses up loads of battery when the phone is idle.
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Where can i find the timout setting for the lock?
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I want to know that as well Tried to find in phone settings but couldn't figure it out
Battery barely gets drained by wifi in idle state. you just go into wireless settings and set wifi sleep policy to when screen turns off.. should be fine after!!
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Mano, not sure if this is what ya after! but here goes.. go to settings, sound and display, then screen timeout!!
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As per my last question, discharging is bad isn't it? With these batteries, you have to constantly charge them so they don't loose life
Edit: Also.. if I press home button or back button that doesn't close the app.. most apps don't close like that, so I have to use ATK to kill it.. is it fine to leave apps running in the bg like that?
Edit: So I should uninstall ATK?
I also JUST got an X10 about 2 weeks ago! My battery life was so bad at first, and I ended up trying most of these battery saving apps. But to be honest, I found that they did more damage than good.
I now have everything I don't use turned off. Bluetooth, WiFi (when I'm not home at least) etc. Just skim through settings and turn off anything you don't think you'll use. And I restart my phone every morning and I get 30-50 hours out of it, depending on use. It is definitely getting better with time too.
For ATK, I would uninstall it as generally killing tasks does more harm than good. If you use it intermittently and only when necessary (and not use auto-killer) you could keep it installed.
As for apps running in the background..
-- If you press back, it should close most apps (not all, but well designed apps should)
--The Android OS is designed to pause/stop apps/processes which are not being actively used by the user and will close them eventually if left unused
-- ATK is generally only freeing RAM which is not important. It is not like Windows in the sense that more free RAM = faster speeds. It is a lot more like, more free ram = more wasted ram.
Here is a link to where I found out most of this information.
http:/geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
As for WiFi sleep policy, thanks for pointing this out. It seems that my phone is already set to sleep WiFi when the screen is turned off. I find this weird as I have found significantly reduced battery life when I turn WiFi on, even when my phone is mostly unused/idle.
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Mano, not sure if this is what ya after! but here goes.. go to settings, sound and display, then screen timeout!!
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Thank you so much Mobzter, but i was not after that As Sashi said that he has set "Timeout - Screen timeout after 15s, lock after 2mins", I know about about screen timeout but "Lock after 2 min", How? Thnak You anyway ^^
@mano. Good question. I can only find screen time out as well.
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i have noticed some thing strange ,the phone lasts more with apps open in backgroung than when i close them . and using my phone consumes less battery than leaving it in standby .very strange phone (may be only mine ) any confirmation.
Hey Hoss,
I can confirm that force-closing/killing apps seems to be worse for battery life than leaving them alone. Backing out of apps usually will stop any cpu usage, but leave the app running. Killing/closing them will just result in more cpu power to run it when necessary.
As for standby vs usage - I have the opposite experience. The battery life on my x10 lasts a lot longer when I am working all day and not using my phone very much.
Terul
I've been searching around looking for info on this and got nothing. I know the LED is on when the phone is off and charging but why would Motorola not have that feature when the phone is on and charging? Every single phone I have ever owned has had a charging LED. So why not the X? It would be cool if there was an app that could control the colors for the charge LED too.
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Moto did alot of stupid stuff like put the battery percentages in 10s instead of singles
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i've noticed the new version of tranquility rom has a green led when charging. i dunno about changing the color though.
Does the green LED stay on when the phone is ON and charging or just OFF and charging? Cuz the X has a green LED when the phone is charging and OFF.
yeah, the phone is on and charging and the green led is on. i never turn my phone off anyway
Yep, Green LED def works on Tranq 3.
If you use Tasker, you can set up the LED to come on while charging on ANY rom.
Tasker is a wonderful app
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Yep, Green LED def works on Tranq 3.
If you use Tasker, you can set up the LED to come on while charging on ANY rom.
Tasker is a wonderful app
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I'm going to check out this tasker app... just because I hear you talk about it so much lol.
Tried tasker, not to impressed
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Tried tasker, not to impressed
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I guess you have to learn how to set it up. It literally does anything and everything possible on an Android phone.
It turns my Wifi on automatically when I arrive home, turns it off when I leave, Sets sync to every 30 mins, saving battery, texts my GF every morning at random intervals telling her to have a great day (Or some variation of that, thats a lifesaver ), turns my GPS on/off for apps that need it, turns brightness to full and auto rotation on when using the gallery, silent boot, silent shut down, reminders, periodic data sync, displays a menu of apps upon plugging in the headphones, and thats just scratching the surface...
I should look into being a Tasker salesman... haha
Some people dont like it because its "hard" to set up, but there are profile tutorials all over the place making it very easy.
I'd say Tasker alone gives me an extra 3 hours of battery life just by itself.
Yeah, I'm not impressed either
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I guess you have to learn how to set it up. It literally does anything and everything possible on an Android phone.
It turns my Wifi on automatically when I arrive home, turns it off when I leave, Sets sync to every 30 mins, saving battery, texts my GF every morning at random intervals telling her to have a great day (Or some variation of that, thats a lifesaver ), turns my GPS on/off for apps that need it, turns brightness to full and auto rotation on when using the gallery, silent boot, silent shut down, reminders, periodic data sync, displays a menu of apps upon plugging in the headphones, and thats just scratching the surface...
I should look into being a Tasker salesman... haha
Some people dont like it because its "hard" to set up, but there are profile tutorials all over the place making it very easy.
I'd say Tasker alone gives me an extra 3 hours of battery life just by itself.
Yeah, I'm not impressed either
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I'm truly in love with tasker... I could shed a tear right now with all the ideas that have been flowing through my head because they can finally be done through one app!!
I like that texting the gf thing.. I'm going to make that now!
Oh and P.S: "I'm not too impressed"
Just want to confirm a hunch that power savers (like green power) trying to control wifi may be one of the causes of screen of death (SOD).
SODs are caused by incorrect Kernel/Modem combinations.
I finally got rid of all my SOD problems when I found a modem that works good!
Really
tamarian said:
Just want to confirm a hunch that power savers (like green power) trying to control wifi may be one of the causes of screen of death (SOD).
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Any juice saver would be absolutely the last thing I'd want on my phone. That's treating cancer with carcinoma.
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Any juice saver would be absolutely the last thing I'd want on my phone. That's treating cancer with carcinoma.
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Exactly! Same apply to task killers...
chasmodo said:
Any juice saver would be absolutely the last thing I'd want on my phone. That's treating cancer with carcinoma.
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Why is that? Green Power works great here on Stunner's 1.4.19. Turns off wifi and data a minute after screen is off and there's no significant data usage and turns it on every half hour to sync with all my push accounts. When I turn the phone on all data connections are restored and ready to use when I've unlocked it.
Does it work? Hell yeah! I only lose 3% max each night as opposed to 8% to 12% without Green Power. I still get my Whatsapp/Gmail/Wordfeud/etc. messages when it's turned off, albeit sometimes a little late which in my case doesn't matter at all. If it's important, either call or send an SMS text message, you can't expect someone to always be in an internet covered area.
Now task killers is another story. Android has a great memory management and most killers will eventually cause more pain than neccessairy.
Anything that attempts to underclock has a high risk of crashing Samsung ICS kernels that haven't had source fixes applied.
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Anything that attempts to underclock has a high risk of crashing Samsung ICS kernels that haven't had source fixes applied.
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Great to hear from the SOD hunter!
GreenPower doesn't underclock like JuiceDefender. However, after lots of SOD's I noticed in the battery chart from settings that prior to SOD, WIFI was stuck ON when device was not awake, when GreenPower should turn it off whenever screen is off. I tested with uninstalling it and tried an alternative (Battery Defender) and no SOD's for 3 days. I had them a couple of times a day since LP1.