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Hero Approved for AT&T 3G Bands

http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/02/htc-hero-hits-fcc-with-us-3g/
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No mention was made of a Hero with 3G that'd work on Rogers or AT&T back at its announcement a few days ago, but HTC has been getting awfully good at making phones that work properly around these parts -- so we can't say we're entirely surprised to see a Hero approved for WCDMA on Bands II and V gracing the FCC today. For the record, Bands II and V are 1900 and 850MHz, respectively, which is exactly the combo AT&T subscribers would need to flip the switch on high-speed data. We're not sure if this negates rumors that the Hero would be coming to Sprint, but if we can just get this version released and in our hands, you know... maybe our minds would be operating with a little more clarity.

t-mobile USA???
nothing for us?

Hopefully it's quad band

I was hoping this phone will come to Sprint.

slbailey1 said:
I was hoping this phone will come to Sprint.
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there was a rumor originally that the Hero would be coming for Sprint. just because a ATT 3G band model passed the FCC, it doesn't mean that the phone isn't still going to come out for Sprint. it's still early, be patient!

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Raioneru said:
t-mobile USA???
nothing for us?
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According to pdadb.com it will be the G1 Touch (HTC Hero 100). Only difference between this version and the regular Hero is that they added the 1700 band to work here. Supposedly coming this month.

Tempted to get this, but the screen resolution might kill it for me

According to Gizmodo, T-Mobile says there will be no Hero released by them. http://gizmodo.com/5310109/t+mobile-straight-out-says-no-htc-hero-from-them

quick question if I can order one from england can I use it on ATT with 3G?

priyaradha said:
quick question if I can order one from england can I use it on ATT with 3G?
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No, 3g will NOT work. Only edge.

T-mobile G2 Touch
evilxhwnd said:
According to Gizmodo, T-Mobile says there will be no Hero released by them. http://gizmodo.com/5310109/t+mobile-straight-out-says-no-htc-hero-from-them
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From Zimbio on Friday:
http://www.zimbio.com/T+Mobile+G1+W...+Mobile+G1+Touch+Becomes+G2+Touch+Still+Track

talan1268 said:
From Zimbio on Friday:
http://www.zimbio.com/T+Mobile+G1+W...+Mobile+G1+Touch+Becomes+G2+Touch+Still+Track
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The link you provided refers to T-Mobile UK.
The link evilxhwnd provided refers to T-Mobile USA.
T-Mobile UK will be introducing the Hero as the G2 Touch.
T-Mobile USA says they have no plans for the Hero at all.

[Q] Nexus 4 w/ verizon

Can I use my Nexus 4 on Verizon's LTE?
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subwoofer12 said:
Can I use my Nexus 4 on Verizon's LTE?
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No. If you bothered to google this question, you would have found about eleventy bazillion links to this question, and they all say no, you can't. Even if Verizon allowed unlocked devices (which they don't), the Nexus 4 is GSM only, and Verizon uses CDMA for calls. No calls, no 3G data, no 4G data, no LTE. Not a sausage. Well, 911, but that's a given.

Planterz said:
No. If you bothered to google this question, you would have found about eleventy bazillion links to this question, and they all say no, you can't. Even if Verizon allowed unlocked devices (which they don't), the Nexus 4 is GSM only, and Verizon uses CDMA for calls. No calls, no 3G data, no 4G data, no LTE. Not a sausage. Well, 911, but that's a given.
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True Verizon uses CDMA for it's 3G network but the Nexus 4 does have LTE, and Verizon uses Band 4 according to this list, shouldn't this work?

subwoofer12 said:
True Verizon uses CDMA for it's 3G network but the Nexus 4 does have LTE, and Verizon uses Band 4 according to this list, shouldn't this work?
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NO!

But this would be possible if Verizon allowed unlocked devices, correct? Because both can support 1700 mhz
I know this is regarding the Nexus 5 but I'm assuming it's the same reason:
Verizon is intentionally blocking the Nexus 5 from their network since the Nexus 5 has all the ability to run on Verizon with no issues. The Nexus 5 radio supports all of Verizon's frequency bands. Verizon doesn't like universal service network phones that are new unlocked cell phones they can't lock into that old 2 year services contract scheme that has made them rich
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subwoofer12 said:
But this would be possible if Verizon allowed unlocked devices, correct? Because both can support 1700 mhz
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And if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump his ass when he hopped.
But yeah, if Verizon ever allowed unlocked phones, theoretically it might be possible to get LTE working on it. But the Nexus 4 doesn't have CDMA, which Verizon uses for telephony, so you wouldn't be able actually use it as a phone.

subwoofer12 said:
Can I use my Nexus 4 on Verizon's LTE?
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No................ uses CDMA for it's 3G network but the Nexus 4 does have LTE, and Verizon uses Band 4 according to this list,

Developer Edition and T-Mobile and LTE

Hi, I live in southern California. I was looking at purchasing a developer edition m8 on ebay. I needed to switch from verizon to t-mobile. I tried to find info on wether or not the developer edition would get lte on t-mobile's network. I could not find any info on it. I had an m7 for verizon that when I put a t-mobile sim in it would only connect to the edge network. So I found a deal for a developer edition m8....
I decided to buy it and the answer is yes, the developer edition m8 on t-mobile's network does connect to lte. Here are some screenshots of exactly what the lte connection I am getting is...
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I am currently running Leedroid 7.3 and firmware 4.20.531.4. I get lte all over riverside county and la county with this configuration. I was worried that with a non "t-mobile" m8 that I would have issues.
Again the developer edition definately does get lte connectivity on t-mobile. In southern California anyway.....

T-Mobile uses Bands 2, 4, and 12 for LTE. The DE supports Bands 2 and 4, but not 12. So while LTE might work in a many locations, you won't have LTE if areas where they are using Band 12 for LTE.
Additionally, the DE does not support Band 4 (AWS) for 3G; which is the band most commonly used by T-Mob for 3G. So if you need to fall back to 3G (no LTE), you will probably not get it and drop down to EDGE.
If you like, you can s-off the phone by sunshine ($25) and then be able to (after changing CID & MID) flash the T-Mob radio to enable the T-Mob bands. Or even "fully convert" the phone to stock T-Mob software.

Flashing a T-Mobile radio won't enable AWS. A radio flash is just tweaks to how the phone handles different signals. Actual Bands are lower level settings that aren't touched by firmware.

Tachi91 said:
Flashing a T-Mobile radio won't enable AWS. A radio flash is just tweaks to how the phone handles different signals. Actual Bands are lower level settings that aren't touched by firmware.
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All GSM M8's (that is all but Verizon and Sprint) are identical in hardware. If the band support was not incorporated in firmware, how else would it be?
Pretty sure folks have been changing the band support by flashing different radios. If you know otherwise, please cite your source. I'll do the same and try to find a thread(s) where folks have successfully changed the band support.

redpoint73 said:
All GSM M8's (that is all but Verizon and Sprint) are identical in hardware. If the band support was not incorporated in firmware, how else would it be?
Pretty sure folks have been changing the band support by flashing different radios. If you know otherwise, please cite your source. I'll do the same and try to find a thread(s) where folks have successfully changed the band support.
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Currently can't get you a source, but once I'm off of work I will do so.
An example is a current thread that's going around with changing bands on Qualcomm devices. The last time I went through it. Only Verizon's m8 had the specific app that would enable it to write any changes via QPST.
All gsm M8s are identical in nature, but carriers change the actual bands. Radio files are just the actual adjustments to overall RF Rx/Tx. If the band isn't enabled that part of the firmware is just ignored.

LTE band workability

Wondr'n anyone knows if OP5 will work on new LTE band of Freedom network??

Hopefully
The S8 has it so I don't see why the OP5 won't
Mhurveen said:
Wondr'n anyone knows if OP5 will work on new LTE band of Freedom network??
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Mhurveen said:
Wondr'n anyone knows if OP5 will work on new LTE band of Freedom network??
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lolwat the phone hasn't been launched - any answer you get here would be speculation at best.

tsuttie99 said:
lolwat the phone hasn't been launched - any answer you get anywhere would be speculation at best.
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Fixed.

Raharazod said:
Fixed.
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Hahahaha... clever

Mhurveen said:
Wondr'n anyone knows if OP5 will work on new LTE band of Freedom network??
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fingers crossed. I'm in the same exact boat hoping the OP5 supports Freedom's new lte bands so i can switch!

If it's LTE band 66 then it sure will, I've seen all 34 bands it's listed as compatible with and this is one of them but there's not long till you can confirm that

There's been a lot of speculation based on this tweet going on:
https://twitter.com/oneplus/status/876469710916857856
It's rumored there might just be one international model - compatible with most current LTE bands. Would be awesome if LTE roaming was finally possible.

Yep I'm thinking the same about there just being one model as I've been lucky enough to see a little something which states 34 band compatibility and as it's launched today I'm sure there's no harm sharing:
FDD LTE:B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,30,66
TDD-LTE:B38,39,40,41
TDS:B34,39
UMTS:B1,2,4,5,8
GSM:B2,3,5,8

There is one band that is conspicuously absent from that list....

loki993 said:
There is one band that is conspicuously absent from that list....
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Yea, 13.

xgerryx said:
Yea, 13.
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yep.....

AvRS said:
I've been lucky enough to see a little something which states 34 band compatibility and as it's launched today
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And it's just been confirmed on the Launch Live Event. Awesome feature!

inkaine said:
And it's just been confirmed on the Launch Live Event. Awesome feature!
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and confirmed no band 13...meaning no Verizon...I guess it's good business to continue to ignore the largest carrier in the US....

AvRS said:
Yep I'm thinking the same about there just being one model as I've been lucky enough to see a little something which states 34 band compatibility and as it's launched today I'm sure there's no harm sharing:
FDD LTE:B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,30,66
TDD-LTE:B38,39,40,41
TDS:B34,39
UMTS:B1,2,4,5,8
GSM:B2,3,5,8
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Hi Folks,
Given these supported bands and Sprint's LTE is bands 25, 26, and 41, does this mean that OP5 will fully work with Google's Project Fi?
I've been waiting to move to Project Fi but not willing to pay for the Pixel.
Thanks!

kimck99 said:
Hi Folks,
Given these supported bands and Sprint's LTE is bands 25, 26, and 41, does this mean that OP5 will fully work with Google's Project Fi?
I've been waiting to move to Project Fi but not willing to pay for the Pixel.
Thanks!
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Project Fi only fully works on the Nexus and Pixel line. Even if another phone supports the bands, you will only have access to T-Mobile.

geoff5093 said:
Project Fi only fully works on the Nexus and Pixel line. Even if another phone supports the bands, you will only have access to T-Mobile.
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Thanks for the information. That kind of sucks....

LTE CA for US
Ref:
https://fccid.io/document.php?id=3415519
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S8+ SM-955f signal icon question

Alright i got a simple but probbaly silly question that i am sure someome has the anwser to. I bought a unlocked S8+ SM-G955F and currently using it on Cricket Wireless . My question is though after putting in the correct APN informatiom for Cricket i notice that on my status bar top right were is shows the single and data connection. Instead of it showing 4G LTE like on my old S7 Active it only shows LTE and if i get a bad signal spot it will show H+. So did they remove thr 4G LTE icon and just replaced it with a simple LTE or is my phone configured worng ? Thanks

Well those icons and in fact the entire firmware are heavily carrier dependent in the US. You'll see various 4G LTE icons when you get a carrier branded phone that is part of each carrier's marketing scheme and not the Samsung or generic Android icons you would for an unlocked or any unbranded international device. Check the photos for a comparison before/after I flashed the unbranded firmware onto my ATT S8.
The important point is to check whether you do have actual LTE connection, for example by going into the menu when you dial *#*#4636#*#*. You're most likely fine and have nothing to worry about.
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I did that *#*#4636#*#* nothing happend

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Well those icons and in fact the entire firmware are heavily carrier dependent in the US. You'll see various 4G LTE icons when you get a carrier branded phone that is part of each carrier's marketing scheme and not the Samsung or generic Android icons you would for an unlocked or any unbranded international device. Check the photos for a comparison before/after I flashed the unbranded firmware onto my ATT S8.
The important point is to check whether you do have actual LTE connection, for example by going into the menu when you dial *#*#4636#*#*. You're most likely fine and have nothing to worry about. View attachment 4189666
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Thanks now i understand so sense my phone is directly from samsung and not branded from a carrier it will be stuck to defualt symbols which pretty much LTE= 4G LTE and H+=3G

pfcland said:
Thanks now i understand so sense my phone is directly from samsung and not branded from a carrier it will be stuck to defualt symbols which pretty much LTE= 4G LTE and H+=3G
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No problem, but won't you see that as a good thing?
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pfcland said:
Thanks now i understand so sense my phone is directly from samsung and not branded from a carrier it will be stuck to defualt symbols which pretty much LTE= 4G LTE and H+=3G
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Not quite. LTE is LTE. 4G is something different in the specification.
H+ is HSDPA, 3G ist one Level below that.
So, the full row would be
E - 2G - 3G - H - H+ - LTE

domsch1988 said:
Not quite. LTE is LTE. 4G is something different in the specification.
H+ is HSDPA, 3G ist one Level below that.
So, the full row would be
E - 2G - 3G - H - H+ - LTE
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So is LTE Better then 4G ?

pfcland said:
So is LTE Better then 4G ?
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No, LTE refers to the Band. 4G to the modem. They are two different parts of the same tech. Like 1gig Ethernet and cat6 one is a protocol, the other a medium...

So, another question to tag along with this one, very similar...I have a G955FD running on ATT in the us. Like OP states, the status bar shows "4G" and nothing regarding LTE. I have confirmed via LTE discovery that it is indeed connected.
Is there a root or other method to modify or customize that icon to match ATT or another carriers specific 4G LTE logos?