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do you need to have a sim unlock before flashing the rom?

No.
SIM unlock - ability to use it on different networks (ATT, VERIZON, T-mobile....) meaning if you by a phone from T-mobile, if you sim unlock it, you can use it on AT&T or Verizon's network.
CID unlock - ability to install non T-mobile ROMs on it if you have a Tmobile phone... so for example, if you buy a phone from Tmobile, the CID lock on the device would prevent you from installing AT&T or Verizon's rom on it.
Most people typically buy a phone from a carrier, that is a Samsung, and it has all the typical Samsung logos on it, as well as a T-mobile logo on it. Everyone knows the phone is made by Samsung, and that it is SIM locked into the T-mobile Network. If you take a SIM card out of a AT&T phone, and insert it into this phone, it probably won't connect to the network.
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But sometimes, Cell Companies hire companies like HTC to manufacture phones for them, that they can release as their own brand. For example, My phone is a "T-mobile Wing"... and it is sold only through T-mobile as if it were "made" by T-mobile... but when in all reality, it's made by HTC.
This "T-mobile Wing" doesn't have any other logos on it, besides "T-mobile", and T-mobile markets and sells the phone to the general public... in a sense "pretending" they made it.
Carriers SIM lock phones, because generally they cut people some sort of deal when buying the phone from... you'll often see deals such as Get this T-mobile Wing for "$300" if you open a new account or extend your contract by 2 years today ...etc..etc... but if you already have an account and have already extended your contract, you'll have to pay $499 for it. Since they are "giving you a deal" because they plan on locking you into a contract and getting money from you for 2 years ... they sell you the phone at a cheaper price.
In order to avoid, people buying let's say, an iPhone from AT&T/Cingular and then using it on T-mobile's network, they SIM lock them so that people can "only" use the iPhone on the AT&T network. Obviously it's also a tactic to get more people to switch over to their network... People who REALLY want an iPhone will switch carriers so that they can have an iPhone. So let's say, Apple was offering unlocked iPhones through their own site, it would most likely cost you a lot more than if you went to AT&T, and signed a 2 year contract with them.
Luckily we have a few smart people out there who are able to get around certain things such as SIM and CID locks in order to alleviate us from the clutches of "the man" .... that way we can do whatever we rightfully chose to do.

AT&T Galaxy Note II official press pictures

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AT&T definitely stepping it up with brand recognition, similar to how starbucks removed their name from the logo.

Looks about right. I wonder if Verizon's variant will still have the atrocious branding on the home button.

paul2834 said:
Looks about right. I wonder if Verizon's variant will still have the atrocious branding on the home button.
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I thought that was a protective sticker...
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just get a new back cover? :good:

That's a nice, simply branding that doesn't take away from the device. Makes me want to abandon Verizon even more. We'll see what their official pics look like... (Hopefully the ones that were released are not official...)

Looking on the date on the phone, does it gives us a clue that it will be released on Thursday, November 15?

carlitos66 said:
Looking on the date on the phone, does it gives us a clue that it will be released on Thursday, November 15?
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What news I've read did say it would be released mid-November, so the clues match up.

If the AT&T logo is no more than that I can live with that.
I just can't decide if I want the white or the grey.

entwicklun said:
just get a new back cover? :good:
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I used a penny to rub off the branding on my Atrix. As long as it's just silk screened print on the cover it should work here as well.

Now, if the AT&T Note II's hardware is identical to the international version (with the exception of the LTE radios), then I'm pretty well sold! Flash the international firmware, and keep the AT&T specific modem.bin, and you've got the best of both worlds!

This is perfect. Nice and simple. Now all they have to do is release the damn thing.
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When is this coming out for ATT? Late October or late November?

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Now, if the AT&T Note II's hardware is identical to the international version (with the exception of the LTE radios), then I'm pretty well sold! Flash the international firmware, and keep the AT&T specific modem.bin, and you've got the best of both worlds!
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What is so nice about international firmware?

No AT$T bloat, that's enough for me.
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Milkman00 said:
What is so nice about international firmware?
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If I were to wager a guess... If there were custom ROMs released that are based on the international firmware one could flash that without borking the device.

Milkman00 said:
What is so nice about international firmware?
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international firmware releases much faster than US does.

Xstop said:
No AT$T bloat, that's enough for me.
SGH–I717 Galaxy Note | AOSP/CM9/AOKP <3 via Tapatalk 2
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But no LTE on the international version, correct? Useless to me without LTE. When I get throttled on LTE I get throttled down to HSPA and that's manageable. Without it? It's throttled back to EDGE.

bmstrong said:
But no LTE on the international version, correct? Useless to me without LTE. When I get throttled on LTE I get throttled down to HSPA and that's manageable. Without it? It's throttled back to EDGE.
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I don't know about throttling but yes international versions(N7100) will not support AT&T LTE bands.

Milkman00 said:
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Go gators!
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[Q] Nexus 4 w/ verizon

Can I use my Nexus 4 on Verizon's LTE?
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Can I use my Nexus 4 on Verizon's LTE?
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No. If you bothered to google this question, you would have found about eleventy bazillion links to this question, and they all say no, you can't. Even if Verizon allowed unlocked devices (which they don't), the Nexus 4 is GSM only, and Verizon uses CDMA for calls. No calls, no 3G data, no 4G data, no LTE. Not a sausage. Well, 911, but that's a given.

Planterz said:
No. If you bothered to google this question, you would have found about eleventy bazillion links to this question, and they all say no, you can't. Even if Verizon allowed unlocked devices (which they don't), the Nexus 4 is GSM only, and Verizon uses CDMA for calls. No calls, no 3G data, no 4G data, no LTE. Not a sausage. Well, 911, but that's a given.
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True Verizon uses CDMA for it's 3G network but the Nexus 4 does have LTE, and Verizon uses Band 4 according to this list, shouldn't this work?

subwoofer12 said:
True Verizon uses CDMA for it's 3G network but the Nexus 4 does have LTE, and Verizon uses Band 4 according to this list, shouldn't this work?
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NO!

But this would be possible if Verizon allowed unlocked devices, correct? Because both can support 1700 mhz
I know this is regarding the Nexus 5 but I'm assuming it's the same reason:
Verizon is intentionally blocking the Nexus 5 from their network since the Nexus 5 has all the ability to run on Verizon with no issues. The Nexus 5 radio supports all of Verizon's frequency bands. Verizon doesn't like universal service network phones that are new unlocked cell phones they can't lock into that old 2 year services contract scheme that has made them rich
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But this would be possible if Verizon allowed unlocked devices, correct? Because both can support 1700 mhz
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And if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump his ass when he hopped.
But yeah, if Verizon ever allowed unlocked phones, theoretically it might be possible to get LTE working on it. But the Nexus 4 doesn't have CDMA, which Verizon uses for telephony, so you wouldn't be able actually use it as a phone.

subwoofer12 said:
Can I use my Nexus 4 on Verizon's LTE?
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No................ uses CDMA for it's 3G network but the Nexus 4 does have LTE, and Verizon uses Band 4 according to this list,

Developer Edition and T-Mobile and LTE

Hi, I live in southern California. I was looking at purchasing a developer edition m8 on ebay. I needed to switch from verizon to t-mobile. I tried to find info on wether or not the developer edition would get lte on t-mobile's network. I could not find any info on it. I had an m7 for verizon that when I put a t-mobile sim in it would only connect to the edge network. So I found a deal for a developer edition m8....
I decided to buy it and the answer is yes, the developer edition m8 on t-mobile's network does connect to lte. Here are some screenshots of exactly what the lte connection I am getting is...
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I am currently running Leedroid 7.3 and firmware 4.20.531.4. I get lte all over riverside county and la county with this configuration. I was worried that with a non "t-mobile" m8 that I would have issues.
Again the developer edition definately does get lte connectivity on t-mobile. In southern California anyway.....

T-Mobile uses Bands 2, 4, and 12 for LTE. The DE supports Bands 2 and 4, but not 12. So while LTE might work in a many locations, you won't have LTE if areas where they are using Band 12 for LTE.
Additionally, the DE does not support Band 4 (AWS) for 3G; which is the band most commonly used by T-Mob for 3G. So if you need to fall back to 3G (no LTE), you will probably not get it and drop down to EDGE.
If you like, you can s-off the phone by sunshine ($25) and then be able to (after changing CID & MID) flash the T-Mob radio to enable the T-Mob bands. Or even "fully convert" the phone to stock T-Mob software.

Flashing a T-Mobile radio won't enable AWS. A radio flash is just tweaks to how the phone handles different signals. Actual Bands are lower level settings that aren't touched by firmware.

Tachi91 said:
Flashing a T-Mobile radio won't enable AWS. A radio flash is just tweaks to how the phone handles different signals. Actual Bands are lower level settings that aren't touched by firmware.
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All GSM M8's (that is all but Verizon and Sprint) are identical in hardware. If the band support was not incorporated in firmware, how else would it be?
Pretty sure folks have been changing the band support by flashing different radios. If you know otherwise, please cite your source. I'll do the same and try to find a thread(s) where folks have successfully changed the band support.

redpoint73 said:
All GSM M8's (that is all but Verizon and Sprint) are identical in hardware. If the band support was not incorporated in firmware, how else would it be?
Pretty sure folks have been changing the band support by flashing different radios. If you know otherwise, please cite your source. I'll do the same and try to find a thread(s) where folks have successfully changed the band support.
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Currently can't get you a source, but once I'm off of work I will do so.
An example is a current thread that's going around with changing bands on Qualcomm devices. The last time I went through it. Only Verizon's m8 had the specific app that would enable it to write any changes via QPST.
All gsm M8s are identical in nature, but carriers change the actual bands. Radio files are just the actual adjustments to overall RF Rx/Tx. If the band isn't enabled that part of the firmware is just ignored.

LTE band workability

Wondr'n anyone knows if OP5 will work on new LTE band of Freedom network??

Hopefully
The S8 has it so I don't see why the OP5 won't
Mhurveen said:
Wondr'n anyone knows if OP5 will work on new LTE band of Freedom network??
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Mhurveen said:
Wondr'n anyone knows if OP5 will work on new LTE band of Freedom network??
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lolwat the phone hasn't been launched - any answer you get here would be speculation at best.

tsuttie99 said:
lolwat the phone hasn't been launched - any answer you get anywhere would be speculation at best.
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Fixed.

Raharazod said:
Fixed.
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Hahahaha... clever

Mhurveen said:
Wondr'n anyone knows if OP5 will work on new LTE band of Freedom network??
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fingers crossed. I'm in the same exact boat hoping the OP5 supports Freedom's new lte bands so i can switch!

If it's LTE band 66 then it sure will, I've seen all 34 bands it's listed as compatible with and this is one of them but there's not long till you can confirm that

There's been a lot of speculation based on this tweet going on:
https://twitter.com/oneplus/status/876469710916857856
It's rumored there might just be one international model - compatible with most current LTE bands. Would be awesome if LTE roaming was finally possible.

Yep I'm thinking the same about there just being one model as I've been lucky enough to see a little something which states 34 band compatibility and as it's launched today I'm sure there's no harm sharing:
FDD LTE:B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,30,66
TDD-LTE:B38,39,40,41
TDS:B34,39
UMTS:B1,2,4,5,8
GSM:B2,3,5,8

There is one band that is conspicuously absent from that list....

loki993 said:
There is one band that is conspicuously absent from that list....
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Yea, 13.

xgerryx said:
Yea, 13.
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yep.....

AvRS said:
I've been lucky enough to see a little something which states 34 band compatibility and as it's launched today
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And it's just been confirmed on the Launch Live Event. Awesome feature!

inkaine said:
And it's just been confirmed on the Launch Live Event. Awesome feature!
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and confirmed no band 13...meaning no Verizon...I guess it's good business to continue to ignore the largest carrier in the US....

AvRS said:
Yep I'm thinking the same about there just being one model as I've been lucky enough to see a little something which states 34 band compatibility and as it's launched today I'm sure there's no harm sharing:
FDD LTE:B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,30,66
TDD-LTE:B38,39,40,41
TDS:B34,39
UMTS:B1,2,4,5,8
GSM:B2,3,5,8
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Hi Folks,
Given these supported bands and Sprint's LTE is bands 25, 26, and 41, does this mean that OP5 will fully work with Google's Project Fi?
I've been waiting to move to Project Fi but not willing to pay for the Pixel.
Thanks!

kimck99 said:
Hi Folks,
Given these supported bands and Sprint's LTE is bands 25, 26, and 41, does this mean that OP5 will fully work with Google's Project Fi?
I've been waiting to move to Project Fi but not willing to pay for the Pixel.
Thanks!
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Project Fi only fully works on the Nexus and Pixel line. Even if another phone supports the bands, you will only have access to T-Mobile.

geoff5093 said:
Project Fi only fully works on the Nexus and Pixel line. Even if another phone supports the bands, you will only have access to T-Mobile.
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Thanks for the information. That kind of sucks....

LTE CA for US
Ref:
https://fccid.io/document.php?id=3415519
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