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okay guys, I tried to figure this out without bothering yall, but my newb knowledge is limited and I'm confused as hell. I was planning on rooting my phone today after reading about all the information I've been collecting from you guys, but now that I have updated my phone, will Toast's method using those files still allow me to root? Or do I need new files in order to root my phone? I see some files on developer page on new root but I'm confused if those are for phones already rooted or not...ahhhh
so I guess I'm asking is..if you have stock phone with new update applied, how do I go about rooting my evo?
We don't know yet. You should not have updated.
Quick and straight to the point, thanks for your reply. I guess I'm a motherfreakin idiot with the worst timing in the world for things like this. FML
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We don't know yet. You should not have updated.
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quick question; if i root with Toast's method, then install the rooted updated rom that's in the dev section (by Calkulin), that should be fine, right?
jblazea50 said:
quick question; if i root with Toast's method, then install the rooted updated rom that's in the dev section (by Calkulin), that should be fine, right?
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yes
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So in order to fully root and nand unlock stock evo with new update, all I have to do is follow Toast's step 1&2 then apply the new rooted update on developer site? just wanna get things crystal clear so I don't risk bricking my evo..
I don't know or think it has been confirmed to work with the new update yet.
Toast step 1 will root the phone
Toast step 2 will unlock nand
Installing the new rooted update will flash the stock sprint rom without breaking your root.
mizerab1e said:
So in order to fully root and nand unlock stock evo with new update, all I have to do is follow Toast's step 1&2 then apply the new rooted update on developer site? just wanna get things crystal clear so I don't risk bricking my evo..
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No. We don't even know if you can use Toast's method to root it. You can be the guinea pig and post results, though!
initial said:
yup.
Toast step 1 will root the phone
Toast step 2 will unlock nand
Installing the new rooted update will flash the stock sprint rom without breaking your root.
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There is some info going around in dev forum saying Toast's method will not work if you have the new OTA update applied on stock EVO saying you will get error messages and stuff although it will not brick your phone which is adding to more confusion..
has anyone successfully rooted their stock evo with new OTA update applied? or do I need to wait until devs come up with new files needed to root the evo?
mizerab1e said:
There is some info going around in dev forum saying Toast's method will not work if you have the new OTA update applied on stock EVO saying you will get error messages and stuff although it will not brick your phone which is adding to more confusion..
has anyone successfully rooted their stock evo with new OTA update applied? or do I need to wait until devs come up with new files needed to root the evo?
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All you have to do is place a file in the root of your SD card and reboot the phone. Try it out and post your results!
mizerab1e said:
Quick and straight to the point, thanks for your reply. I guess I'm a motherfreakin idiot with the worst timing in the world for things like this. FML
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You and me both my friend, you and me both. Sat there as the update came up and thought, I bet this is going to prevent me from rooting today ...
Yeah, ALL root is broken if you install the OTA.
Okay so I've been digging around and asking questions in dev forum, seems like there is no way for Stock EVO with OTA update to root their EVO yet. What bothers me is that I haven't seen a single post from a dev announcing that they are working on new root methods for Stock EVO with new OTA update.. they seem to be more concerned about fixing the issue around previously rooted EVOs, and I'm afraid we are getting left out... I hope this isn't the case, and hopefully one of our brilliant devs will give the new stock evo with OTA update owners some attention to this matter.
mizerab1e said:
Okay so I've been digging around and asking questions in dev forum, seems like there is no way for Stock EVO with OTA update to root their EVO yet. What bothers me is that I haven't seen a single post from a dev announcing that they are working on new root methods for Stock EVO with new OTA update.. they seem to be more concerned about fixing the issue around previously rooted EVOs, and I'm afraid we are getting left out... I hope this isn't the case, and hopefully one of our brilliant devs will give the new stock evo with OTA update owners some attention to this matter.
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They're busy working on the kernel. Everybody was warned not to accept the OTA and those of us that chose to do it have to lie in our beds until the developers get around to it.
EtherealRemnant said:
They're busy working on the kernel. Everybody was warned not to accept the OTA and those of us that chose to do it have to lie in our beds until the developers get around to it.
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Seems like that is the case, someone from dev forum suggested that downgrading the OTA to previous one then rooting might wield some fruit, If I can figure out how to do that I'll be more than happy to be a guinea pig for you guys.
TheBiles said:
All you have to do is place a file in the root of your SD card and reboot the phone. Try it out and post your results!
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I'm not quite sure which file you're talking about, could you elaborate some more?
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Okay so I've been digging around and asking questions in dev forum, seems like there is no way for Stock EVO with OTA update to root their EVO yet. What bothers me is that I haven't seen a single post from a dev announcing that they are working on new root methods for Stock EVO with new OTA update.. they seem to be more concerned about fixing the issue around previously rooted EVOs, and I'm afraid we are getting left out... I hope this isn't the case, and hopefully one of our brilliant devs will give the new stock evo with OTA update owners some attention to this matter.
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They busted their asses to get root the first time, and, as of right now, every EVO that you buy is capable of being rooted. Only people who update without heeding the warnings are affected, so it is kind of hard to convince a dev to throw down all of their current work to go back and try to solve this AGAIN. It should be a general rule of thumb that you NEVER install manufacturer's updates on any piece of electronics that you are interested in hacking/modifying/changing in any way. 99% of the time they provide some kind of security fixes that are not announced.
mizerab1e said:
Seems like that is the case, someone from dev forum suggested that downgrading the OTA to previous one then rooting might wield some fruit, If I can figure out how to do that I'll be more than happy to be a guinea pig for you guys.
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It doesn't work. I've already tried it. The bootloader is locked.
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They busted their asses to get root the first time, and, as of right now, every EVO that you buy is capable of being rooted. Only people who update without heeding the warnings are affected, so it is kind of hard to convince a dev to throw down all of their current work to go back and try to solve this AGAIN. It should be a general rule of thumb that you NEVER install manufacturer's updates on any piece of electronics that you are interested in hacking/modifying/changing in any way. 99% of the time they provide some kind of security fixes that are not announced.
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I have no doubt in my mind the devs are doing everything they can to provide us with their brilliant work, I have no one but myself to blame for updating the OTA without heeding their warnings. I'm sure once the devs iron out all the issues with previously rooted system, they will get around to us as they always have. I just wish there was any way I can contribute to putting some light onto this matter for those who made the mistake of updating their OTA..
Yeah, was kicking myself as I knew it was a mistake.
Am willing to try out some ish too, that is if an extra Guinea is needed.
Newbie question - I had installed unRevoked last week on my stock EVO to try out the wi-fi tether app. My device does not seem to have recieved the update today. Shouldn't I be able to force it through Settings --> System Updates --> HTC Software update ??
Or does the fact that I have unRevoked block it?
I tried uninstalling unRevoked, but it still looks like I can't force the update?
Any ideas?
You will loose root if you apply it.
https://twitter.com/unrevoked
Worse yet if you accidentally apply twice you brick your phone.
Can't get the update?
Thanks - I was less worried about not being able to unRevoke - what has me worried is I can't seem to force the update and I haven't gotten any message that it's available?
I think it is a rollout update. Wait it out.
a question
I've been following the 'how to gain root access after OTA' thread and have a question, but they don't want people posting anything not DIRECTLY RELATED to hacking after OTA there anymore. So, I will try this question here. Here goes :
I have NOT done the 1.47.651 June 29 OTA update, I keep refusing it. My Evo is essentially stock (no rooting, no unrevoked, etc. ) I would like to know if I can run unrevoked since I haven't done the OTA. also, would like to know if I can do the OTA and STILL run unrevoked. Or do I need unrevoked2?
I've been to unrevoked Twitter page and unrevoked docu.wiki and see some information, (but not enough for someone new to Android like myself), and no way to ask/post questions directly. So, I am trying here. My main interest isn't even so much root, it's that I want to be able to tether via USB without having to use extra software like PDAnet.
Any help or a point in the right direction, much thanks.
Scott
scottspa74 said:
I would like to know if I can run unrevoked since I haven't done the OTA.
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Yes.
scottspa74 said:
also, would like to know if I can do the OTA and STILL run unrevoked.
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No.
scottspa74 said:
Or do I need unrevoked2?
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You need to use unrevoked2 and use their modified OTA which will give you the benefits and maintain root. If you install the official OTA at any point, you will lose the ability to root, period (until someone figures out a new way to do it )
pdlboy said:
Yes.
No.
You need to use unrevoked2 and use their modified OTA which will give you the benefits and maintain root. If you install the official OTA at any point, you will lose the ability to root, period (until someone figures out a new way to do it )
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Thank you. You even broke it into separate questions. last clarification, I promise: with no OTA I CAN use unrevoked1 and that doesn't break 4G/not what's being blamed for breaking 4G?
I'm not too concerned with most of the root features, I just wanna be able to tether, so I'm thinking unrevoked1 would be good enough for me, (if It's not what's responsible for breaking 4G on non-updated devices)
Thanks again.
Hey guys, new to the forums and had a question. How do you set back your Evo if it came with the OTA update 1.47.651.1? Or is it just not possible? Ive been doing ALOT of reading the past few days...and I couldn't find anything on how to do this or should i just keep the phone the way it is and just wait for a root update from toast?? I do know my way around a computer, so you can throw anything at me. I really appreciate this guys.
-Bryan
madman8784 said:
Hey guys, new to the forums and had a question. How do you set back your Evo if it came with the OTA update 1.47.651.1? Or is it just not possible? Ive been doing ALOT of reading the past few days...and I couldn't find anything on how to do this or should i just keep the phone the way it is and just wait for a root update from toast?? I do know my way around a computer, so you can throw anything at me. I really appreciate this guys.
-Bryan
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Please follow this guide. Make sure you scroll down until you see ****ROOTING AFTER OTA 1.47.651.1 (Full Root)**** -- start from there!
As writen by the Lenovo Staff in the lenovo Forum:
1. OTA2 will fix the root exploit of OTA1. It is unacceptable to our enterprise customers deploying a business tool like ThinkPad Tablet to have a known root exploit - so we have no choice but to fix the exploit. My advice to anyone who wants to keep root, is to stay on OTA1. Fixing the root exploit took less than a day - it is not (and never has been) the reason for OTA2 delays. Nobody within Lenovo will have anything more to say about rooting the ThinkPad Tablet, so please don't ask any follow-up questions about this - or at least don't expect any answers. Thank you in advance for understanding this.
2. OTA2 delays are being caused by various issues found during testing. We are trying hard to get OTA2 done right and everyone within Lenovo understands how many important fixes are in it. Bsnf will probably have more to say about this tomorrow - whether OTA2 will release this week, or if there will be another delay while we fix a last-minute issue found during testing. We apologize for the delay.
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The full thread can be found here:
http://forum.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-slate-tablets/OTA2-fix-list/td-p/658231/page/17
So no ota2 for me!
Prefer bugs than not be able to root my tablet.
quyTam said:
So no ota2 for me!
Prefer bugs than not be able to root my tablet.
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Well if you have cwr and can flash unsigned zips, then both should be possible after some modifying
Remember, the stock ROM overwrites the recovery ROM at every boot!! The new OTA will re-enable that feature...
Logxen said:
Remember, the stock ROM overwrites the recovery ROM at every boot!! The new OTA will re-enable that feature...
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I meant modifying before flashing. But thanks for making it clear for everyone.
This is extremely lousy. I am regretting buying one of these now. What are the chances it gets rooted again? Unfortunately I updated to the OTA2 before seeing this.
FearTheCron said:
This is extremely lousy. I am regretting buying one of these now. What are the chances it gets rooted again? Unfortunately I updated to the OTA2 before seeing this.
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Hu? Where did you get OTA2? I can't find it on the lenovo servers.
I didn't realize that the OTA2 wasn't out yet. I just hit the auto update and assumed that it was the ota 2 update. I am on build "ThinkPadTablet_A310_02_0037_0075_US". I will try the root exploit and see if it works. Hopefully someone can modify the ota update to maintain root.
According to a post over in the Lenovo forums it is, but those on root will not get the update OTA naturally.
TS
That was released in Nov 2011:
see http://download.lenovo.com/slates/think/tablet1/
You are still on OTA1 - relax and root away!
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I didn't realize that the OTA2 wasn't out yet. I just hit the auto update and assumed that it was the ota 2 update. I am on build "ThinkPadTablet_A310_02_0037_0075_US". I will try the root exploit and see if it works. Hopefully someone can modify the ota update to maintain root.
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Seems they have pulled OTA2. I downloaded it ten minutes ago and now it is not there anymore.
ThinkPadTablet_A310_02_0039_0086_UK.zip
For some reason it does not list but can still be downloaded
http://download.lenovo.com/slates/think/tablet1/ThinkPadTablet_A310_02_0039_0086_UK.zip
http://download.lenovo.com/slates/think/tablet1/ThinkPadTablet_A310_02_0039_0086_WE.zip
ok, 0086_we is available via ota.
i just downloaded it automatically.
the update.zip is stored in /cache, just in case someone wants to delete it and prevent the update on next restart.
might it be possible to manipulate the update.zip and include su (maybe a silly question, but i'm far away from being a dev or android-expert).
greetings
danjac said:
ok, 0086_we is available via ota.
i just downloaded it automatically.
the update.zip is stored in /cache, just in case someone wants to delete it and prevent the update on next restart.
might it be possible to manipulate the update.zip and include su (maybe a silly question, but i'm far away from being a dev or android-expert).
greetings
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Should be possible. You have at least to edit the update.script in the zipfile and to look for parts like this (from the orignal script):
Code:
ui_print("Removing unneeded files...");
delete("/system/app/LenovoBookmarkWidget-1.0.023.apk",
"/system/app/LenovoConfigFileHandler-1.2.001.apk",
"/system/app/LenovoSetupWizard-1.2.001.apk",
"/system/app/MobiHandAppStore_b1.0.4.538.apk",
"/system/app/dxtg-lenovo-usa_3.003.1049.apk", "/system/bin/aescrypt",
"/system/bin/redsocks", "/system/bin/redsocksctls",
"/system/app/LenovoAppShop_K1_b219.apk",
"/system/app/LenovoBookmarkWidget-1.0.022.apk",
"/system/app/LenovoConfigFileHandler-1.0.007.apk",
"/system/app/LenovoSetupWizard-1.1.001.apk",
"/system/app/dxtg-lnv-u1_3.003.999.apk",
[B]"/system/app/Superuser.apk", "/system/bin/su", "/system/xbin/su",[/B]
"/system/recovery.img");
"Removing unneeded files..." ... no comment...
You may also want to remove the recovery and stay wit CWM. Will look into it when i find some free time. But can't test it myself right now, because I'm playing around with a custom rom and the firmware updates in the update could make things more complicated.
What kind of custom rom do you use? Aosp? Ics?
Updated with temporary unroot and OTA Rootkeeper to .......086_WE
So the rootkeeper works on my tablet.
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Updated with temporary unroot and OTA Rootkeeper to .......086_WE
So the rootkeeper works on my tablet.
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Hi
I got root keeper but did you do a temp unroot to do the update? What steps did you do? Really want to update and keep root.
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Hi
I got root keeper but did you do a temp unroot to do the update? What steps did you do? Really want to update and keep root.
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I believe he is writing specifically about OTA Root Keeper which purports to have a temp-unroot procedure before running an OTA update.
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
Its ok I had rootkeeper and forgot it had a temp unroot, just did a temp unroot, updated tpt and restored root, all working fine and root access is confirmed.
Cheers
Tom
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before I even knew it, I had updated the ota2 after rooting. had root for about 3 minutes. LOL. does anyone know how to restore this thing back to ota1 or even the original firmware? I have the ota update kit stored locally, so if I had any kind of pointer to the original rom, I could probably downgrade it. Hopefully.
Anyone knows when will be available this update to ROW version?
Hello there,
This is my first time using an android device, and I have just successfully rooted my n10.
But I was wondering if google came up with a new android version can I update it? And after I update it, is my device still rooted?
I'm just asking to make sure I don't messed up my tablet.
Thanks
Tim
D-X69 said:
Hello there,
This is my first time using an android device, and I have just successfully rooted my n10.
But I was wondering if google came up with a new android version can I update it? And after I update it, is my device still rooted?
I'm just asking to make sure I don't messed up my tablet.
Thanks
Tim
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In general there are ways to 'keep root'. But no one knows the future so each time its possible there are problems. People smarter than us will try first and work out all the kinks. If you need to have Google's update that same day you still can, but to do it 100% safely youll need to change things back.
So to literally answer your question - yes your tablet will be able to be updated. (Be sure you learn about what that means w/ root though prior to Googles next update.)
you will lose root. Always check the development section to see if that new upgrade has root.
If they do, upgrade then get root again. I say, be patient and wait for root before any upgrades... makes the Nexus more fun.
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you will lose root. Always check the development section to see if that new upgrade has root.
If they do, upgrade then get root again. I say, be patient and wait for root before any upgrades... makes the Nexus more fun.
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So do you mean, lets say there's a new android version and I'd have to get the new root then do a system update?
Or do I system update and then root my phone as soon as im done updating to the new version??
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D-X69,
I read on a few XDA posts that when people did the last OTA (4.2.2) update while rooted they lost root, but a few of them had used "OTA RootKeeper" and used it to restore root easily. Of course they had previous to applying the OTA update installed OTA RootKeeper and performed the initial root back.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
Here are more options and a discussion on the subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148167&highlight=ota+rootkeeper
and another where a user directly mentions success using OTA RootKeeper:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2152397&highlight=ota+rootkeeper
Since you are already rooted you have a couple choices. Flash an updated stock rooted ROM or go custom ROM that is updated. No need to lose your root to upgrade ROM.
And, to add to the above, here's a YouTube video explaining OTA Rootkeeper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky5miA8ilr0&feature=em-subs_digest
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