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[Q] Should I update from 4.3 JB to 4.4.2 KK ?

Hello
I recently got my S4 i9505. I'm planning to root it
I have Android version 4.3
I used to flash costum roms on my s2 but I'm not really planning to do much flashing on my S4. not soon anyway
So as I connected the phone to Kies to make sure the drivers were downloaded so I can proceed with rooting
Firmware update popped up
I'm not sure what the best option for me now.
Should I root now and then I'd be able to flash a costume KK rom? and are there any stable ones that are better than the stock?
Can I use kies to update my rooted phone?
Maybe I should stick with JB 4.3? Which one is better 4.3 or 4.4.2?
I remember facing some issues when I update my s2 back. So I searched for the KK Update for the s4 and some people weren't so happy with their KK update
I know that doesn't represent the majority but still it could happen to me
So I confused myself
What is your advice to me?
sorry for the long post
Also I have an extra question What is KNOX? and do I need it?

egy_b0y said:
Hello
I recently got my S4 i9505. I'm planning to root it
I have Android version 4.3
I used to flash costum roms on my s2 but I'm not really planning to do much flashing on my S4. not soon anyway
So as I connected the phone to Kies to make sure the drivers were downloaded so I can proceed with rooting
Firmware update popped up
I'm not sure what the best option for me now.
Should I root now and then I'd be able to flash a costume KK rom? and are there any stable ones that are better than the stock?
Can I use kies to update my rooted phone?
Maybe I should stick with JB 4.3? Which one is better 4.3 or 4.4.2?
I remember facing some issues when I update my s2 back. So I searched for the KK Update for the s4 and some people weren't so happy with their KK update
I know that doesn't represent the majority but still it could happen to me
So I confused myself
What is your advice to me?
sorry for the long post
Also I have an extra question What is KNOX? and do I need it?
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First, the most problems in 4.4.2 are fixed, so if you flash the officical, latest firmware of your country you shouldn't have any problem.
An important thing: if you flash a custom rom, your warranty will be set 0x1, that means, you lost your garanty if you flash a custom rom, that's the so called KNOX. You can use knox like a second system on your phone, with all secure data in it, you can only access with a passwort and all datas are locked without this passwort.
Root your phone after the software update if you want to root it.

Tkkg1994 said:
First, the most problems in 4.4.2 are fixed, so if you flash the officical, latest firmware of your country you shouldn't have any problem.
An important thing: if you flash a custom rom, your warranty will be set 0x1, that means, you lost your garanty if you flash a custom rom, that's the so called KNOX. You can use knox like a second system on your phone, with all secure data in it, you can only access with a passwort and all datas are locked without this passwort.
Root your phone after the software update if you want to root it.
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the fact is that 4.4.2 GNG8 international version cannot be rooted....

christty31 said:
the fact is that 4.4.2 GNG8 international version cannot be rooted....
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That's wrong, just not with towelroot.

thank you for your input

G900I 5.0 root?

Just wondering if there's a 5.0 root method for the G900I yet?
If so, can someone point me to a guide.
Thanks in advance!

bumpity bump

How did you get the lollipop 5.0 update for G900I?

Should update through Kies.
Also bump.

ChrisDude70 said:
Just wondering if there's a 5.0 root method for the G900I yet?
If so, can someone point me to a guide.
Thanks in advance!
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KNOX 0x1:
download supersu 2.45 zip http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1538053
Have TWRP installed
1)enter TWRP / CWM (I have used newest TWRP)
2)wipe cache and dalvik (for sure, never enough to wipe cache and dalvik )
3)install supersu.zip
4)reboot and waaaaaaaait.
Done. Perm ROOT.
KNOX 0x0 search forum. There is way to do it.
Shashank.sonth said:
How did you get the lollipop 5.0 update for G900I?
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You need 2 things:
1. ODIN
2. Sammobile.com

Cheers!
Not too worried about knox.
I rushed it and tripped it before they worked out how to get around. So I'm counter anyway.
I only root for a few minor things anyway. So not worried too much about bricking. Touch wood.

Did anyone get official lollipop ? update for G900I yet?

Shashank.sonth said:
Did anyone get official lollipop update for G900I yet?
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According to : http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G900I/ the answer is yes: Taiwan.

Can others flash that without problems?

qubbus said:
According to : http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G900I/ the answer is yes: Taiwan.
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I have flashed the Taiwan version (I am based in Australia)
There is a few issues I have noticed with this one, clean proper install, wiped dalvik etc
WiFi continually drops off
Slow Performance
Apps often crash such as S-Health & Camera
No doubt Samsung are aware of these issues & will fix before they roll out others, I suspect they will release 5.01 or 5.02 to other countries rather than the 5.0 they released for the Taiwan version

wiggleme said:
I have flashed the Taiwan version (I am based in Australia)
There is a few issues I have noticed with this one, clean proper install, wiped dalvik etc
WiFi continually drops off
Slow Performance
Apps often crash such as S-Health & Camera
No doubt Samsung are aware of these issues & will fix before they roll out others, I suspect they will release 5.01 or 5.02 to other countries rather than the 5.0 they released for the Taiwan version
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Turn off smart switching 4G/WiFi in advanced settings. It helped me a lot.
About performance - have you wiped internal storage?
I haven't noticed crashes of these apps. Camera is working fine. Maybe something with yours SDcard?
S-Health - wipe app data and cache and try, I don't use this app too much but maybe it help.
I had issues with performance after dirty flash taiwanese rom on australian rom.
I have even downgraded to kitkat for a while! But I wanted to give a chance to LL.
I wiped everything from TWRP even system partition :F and flashed taiwan rom, then from stock taiwan recovery did full wipe and flash again taiwanese LL. Now I have no issues and more than 45k in AnTuTu...

I'm thinking to flash the Taiwanese rom G900IZTU1BOA1_G900IZZT1BOA1_BRI.zip on my G900I Indian version just wanted to know is it safe n has anyone installed it? Plz help I badly want to upgrade to lollipop

Shashank.sonth said:
I'm thinking to flash the Taiwanese rom G900IZTU1BOA1_G900IZZT1BOA1_BRI.zip on my G900I Indian version just wanted to know is it safe n has anyone installed it? Plz help I badly want to upgrade to lollipop
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Be patient. It seems that Australia gets OTA update from yesterday. Maybe India is next?
I have downgraded yesterday my G900i to 4.4.2 again. I have mixed feelings. KK seems to be faster than LP but benchmark is lower. Also battery life seems to be greater on KK. One folk did battery benchmark and it was the same but benchmark is not daily use so, it is very difficult to campare.
If you want safe flash, then flash by odin. Installing original ROM do not trip knox.

Shashank.sonth said:
I'm thinking to flash the Taiwanese rom G900IZTU1BOA1_G900IZZT1BOA1_BRI.zip on my G900I Indian version just wanted to know is it safe n has anyone installed it? Plz help I badly want to upgrade to lollipop
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No OTA but you lose nothing by not flashing lollipop at all.
You can flash Taiwan ROM. Downgrade is possible without tripping Knox flag.
But it is not worth of it.
Try and check by your own.

downgrade official lollipop to official kitkat 4.4?

Has anyone successfully downgrade official lollipop 5.0 to official kitkat 4.4? How? Is it safe to do it? Please help [emoji38]

I am quite sure a lot of people have gone back to KitKat from Lollipop, including me. In the course of last one week I have flashed Lollipop at least six times and came back to KK each time. So yes, downgrading is absolutely problem free.

Thank you devil

need help.
i have problem downgrading from lollipop to kitkat. after i downgrade. my phone baseband change to unknown and i cannot receive any signal. i try flashing kitkat baseband still no luck. any help? please i want to go back to KK.

IzArsha said:
i have problem downgrading from lollipop to kitkat. after i downgrade. my phone baseband change to unknown and i cannot receive any signal. i try flashing kitkat baseband still no luck. any help? please i want to go back to KK.
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I would save all your personal data to the PC desktop. Wipe everything ( twice ), and then do a factory reset. Now odin flash back to whatever version of KK OS you want to run. Make sure you use a complete stock .tar firmware ( system/modem/bootloader ) from xda or sammoblie has them. Once you flash back to stock, odin flash it again to make sure everything installs. Then root and reinstall your data. If you do a lot of flashing from lollipop to KK, your going to have to take out the trash every once in while for lack of better words. I do a lot of flashing and end going back to bone stock about once a week, this helps from corrupting vital programs like efs. So in other words there is no magic pill. For more info click my signature the versions of KK might be different but the procedure is the same.

jimzweb1 said:
I would save all your personal data to the PC desktop. Wipe everything ( twice ), and then do a factory reset. Now odin flash back to whatever version of KK OS you want to run. Make sure you use a complete stock .tar firmware ( system/modem/bootloader ) from xda or sammoblie has them. Once you flash back to stock, odin flash it again to make sure everything installs. Then root and reinstall your data. If you do a lot of flashing from lollipop to KK, your going to have to take out the trash every once in while for lack of better words. I do a lot of flashing and end going back to bone stock about once a week, this helps from corrupting vital programs like efs. So in other words there is no magic pill. For more info click my signature the versions of KK might be different but the procedure is the same.
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Sorry i already fix this. After flashing KK i flashed Lolipop modem manually then it connect to my network. Then i flashed back to KK modem which is GNG1 and its working like a charm.

Hi, I am using Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and recently updated to Lollipop(Not any ROM). Now I want to do factory reset and want to know that after factory reset process Will my phone land on Kitkat or Lollipop?
It would be greatly appreciated If someone can help me on this.
Thanks

problem whit recovery
devilsdouble said:
I am quite sure a lot of people have gone back to KitKat from Lollipop, including me. In the course of last one week I have flashed Lollipop at least six times and came back to KK each time. So yes, downgrading is absolutely problem free.
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i have n7100, installed lollipop beta, then i tried hawkish rom runing 4.1.x rom, finally i installed dr ketans ron v14 runing 4.4.4, but on the recovey i still see the hawkish rom folder i pasted to the internal sd, i cant delete it using root explorer or any other program, i can only see this folder on recovery, any idea?

Check my last few threads for solutions
TechArena.IN

Downgrading official lollipop (XEO) to Kitkat (BTU)
Hello Note 3 users. I would like to ask (maybe someone already tried) to downgrade official (not leaked one with bugs as was mentioned) lollipop to kitkat? My phone originally had BTU kitkat, but I wanted to test lollipop and downloaded one from sammobile (XEO). Flashed as it was described in Sammobile website, everything went well. Rom is working well, but gps takes ages to fix, and only a few satellites. They are always lost while driving. Because of this reason I would like to come back to BTU kitkat again (get gps working normally again and receive future OTA updates). Can I flash Kitkat like it's described in sammobile? Wouldn't I mess the bootloader or something? (XEO Lollipop to BTU Kitkat)

I successfully downgraded from Samsung's official 5.0 to 4.4.2. I wiped the phone first in recovery. Then flashed using Odin version 3.09.
My Note 3 is an SM-N9005.
After receiving the 5.0 update yesterday for my Note 3 (product code XSI) and not liking it very much I will be downgrading again. At least the newer build in the XSI ROM seems more stable than the BTU ROM I tried before but I will still downgrade. One of my favourite apps, Delayed Lock, isn't working on 5.0.

[Q] Cannot update to lollipop using FOA

First things first, I am not very techy and am only trying to accomplish one goal on my galaxy s5 - update to lollipop.
I'm trying to do it by going to Settings --> About device --> Software Update. Everytime I try it check's for updates and says 'The Latest Updates have already been installed'.
My device is unrooted and running Android 4.4.2 and is unlocked. My brother bought the exact same phone and got the update over FOA more than a month ago!
I can't find anywhere on the internet to help me out, I don't want to update manually.. I wan't to know why my device won't update automatically.
Any thoughts on what I can try? Does it need a factory reset? Has anyone else got this issue? Help much appreciated.

sorry my friend the only way is to manually update it using odin on computer.
but, you can try to connect your mobile with kies and see your csc country then look in sammobile website if your country csc got lollipop, if so try to factory reset and then check for an update , but first make backup of your data.

Galaxy_Guy said:
sorry my friend the only way is to manually update it using odin on computer.
but, you can try to connect your mobile with kies and see your csc country then look in sammobile website if your country csc got lollipop, if so try to factory reset and then check for an update , but first make backup of your data.
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But why won't it update via FOA? Is this a common thing where Samsung picks and chooses who gets it (seems kinda wrong), or is it possible I've got a fake phone? I've got a lot of stuff on the phone and don't really wanna go through the whole backup system restore process. I type on google my problem and it just comes up with stupid articles like 'How's lollipop treating you'.. it's like nobody has my problem but me?

Did some more digging around and found the following info for my phone:
AP: G900FXXU1ANJ1
CP: G900FXXU1ANJ1
CSC: G900FOXX1ANJ1
Searching the CSC on Sammobile tells me that the latest version for my phone is still 4.4.2 (not even 4.4.4?? It's like Samsung forgot about it).
Oddly, it says the country is Portugal (TPH) for this CSC, even though I bought a UK phone. This prompted me to check the IMEI on IMEI.info which confirms that the phone is legit..
I downloaded keys at it tells me the firmware version is:
PDA:NJ1 / CSC:NJ1 / PHONE:NJ1(TPH)
It says the latest firmware is already installed.
I'm wondering if my phone will ever get updated to lollipop (the fact that its still on 4.4.2 tells me maybe never). So I want to try and do this manually. Is there a way to change the country code? Will this void my warranty? Or can I manually force lollipop onto the phone via Kies? Do I need to root?
Some clear instruction for me to follow would be much appreciated. Thanks guys

Jamie1029 said:
Did some more digging around and found the following info for my phone:
AP: G900FXXU1ANJ1
CP: G900FXXU1ANJ1
CSC: G900FOXX1ANJ1
Searching the CSC on Sammobile tells me that the latest version for my phone is still 4.4.2 (not even 4.4.4?? It's like Samsung forgot about it).
Oddly, it says the country is Portugal (TPH) for this CSC, even though I bought a UK phone. This prompted me to check the IMEI on IMEI.info which confirms that the phone is legit..
I downloaded keys at it tells me the firmware version is:
PDA:NJ1 / CSC:NJ1 / PHONE:NJ1(TPH)
It says the latest firmware is already installed.
I'm wondering if my phone will ever get updated to lollipop (the fact that its still on 4.4.2 tells me maybe never). So I want to try and do this manually. Is there a way to change the country code? Will this void my warranty? Or can I manually force lollipop onto the phone via Kies? Do I need to root?
Some clear instruction for me to follow would be much appreciated. Thanks guys
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yes that's why you can't update to lollipop
so the only solution is to update manually :/ sorry dude

I checked my brothers phone and his CSC country is UK??
So I'm thinking to fix this I need to flash my CSC to UK... is this something I can do via Odin?

Jamie1029 said:
I checked my brothers phone and his CSC country is UK??
So I'm thinking to fix this I need to flash my CSC to UK... is this something I can do via Odin?
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Can I beg for help here? Pleassseeeeee... I'll hit the thank you button for someone who tells me what to do cheers.. I wanna know how to do this manually.. do i need to change csc? what programs to use

Jamie1029 said:
Can I beg for help here? Pleassseeeeee... I'll hit the thank you button for someone who tells me what to do cheers.. I wanna know how to do this manually.. do i need to change csc? what programs to use
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Is your phone still under warranty?

JacobSenior said:
Is your phone still under warranty?
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yes it is... but i want lollipop .. will it void it? If yes thats ok Ill go ahead anyway

Rather than focusing on the goal of upgrading to lollipop, do some research about whether you actually want/need to.......
Quite a few members have posted here about problems and instabilities with lollipop.
Also, if you intend to root your device and tweak/modify it, the general advice is to stay at 4.4.2, as 5.0.0 tends to 'reduce the possibilities'......
Sent from my rooted kn0x0 SM-G900F S5

Jamie1029 said:
yes it is... but i want lollipop .. will it void it? If yes thats ok Ill go ahead anyway
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I have no idea if it will void the warranty. When I flashed my device to 5.0 with the Polish release my CSC changed to XEO from H3G and my knox is still 0x0. What is your carrier? Head over to sammobile.com and download the rom corresponding to your carrier, and flash it as normal.
keithross39 said:
Rather than focusing on the goal of upgrading to lollipop, do some research about whether you actually want/need to.......
Quite a few members have posted here about problems and instabilities with lollipop.
Also, if you intend to root your device and tweak/modify it, the general advice is to stay at 4.4.2, as 5.0.0 tends to 'reduce the possibilities'......
Sent from my rooted kn0x0 SM-G900F S5
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^^ I am currently flashing back to 4.4.2 so my stability and battery life isn't wrecked. I would also recommend staying on KitKat.

5.0.0 seems to be (by all accounts) a bit of a 'rush job'......
5.0.1 and/or 5.0.2 will be more polished and stable.....
Also Samsung have (from what I've read) included a new 'secure' bootloader with 5.0 and beyond, which apparently is causing 'issues'.........
Sent from my rooted kn0x0 SM-G900F S5

Jamie1029 said:
First things first, I am not very techy and am only trying to accomplish one goal on my galaxy s5 - update to lollipop.
I'm trying to do it by going to Settings --> About device --> Software Update. Everytime I try it check's for updates and says 'The Latest Updates have already been installed'.
My device is unrooted and running Android 4.4.2 and is unlocked. My brother bought the exact same phone and got the update over FOA more than a month ago!
I can't find anywhere on the internet to help me out, I don't want to update manually.. I wan't to know why my device won't update automatically.
Any thoughts on what I can try? Does it need a factory reset? Has anyone else got this issue? Help much appreciated.
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The latest firmware for Portugal TPH is 4.4.2, Lollipop for that region has not been released yet.
If your brother has 5.0 on his phone with UK firmware than he most likely has BTU firmware
You can update yours to BTU which as actually a UK & Europe generic multi CSC firmware from Sammobile here. LINK
You will need to download it you will need Odin to do it, but after installing you will need to do a factory reset otherwise you CSC will not change and the phone will be unstable
Lollipop 5.0 for me is extremely stable and battery life far better than any other version I have had, screen clip below shows 2 days 20 hours since last charge and phone at 62% this is with light usage though

ag4751 said:
The latest firmware for Portugal TPH is 4.4.2, Lollipop for that region has not been released yet.
If your brother has 5.0 on his phone with UK firmware than he most likely has BTU firmware
You can update yours to BTU which as actually a UK & Europe generic multi CSC firmware from Sammobile here. LINK
You will need to download it you will need Odin to do it, but after installing you will need to do a factory reset otherwise you CSC will not change and the phone will be unstable
Lollipop 5.0 for me is extremely stable and battery life far better than any other version I have had, screen clip below shows 2 days 20 hours since last charge and phone at 62% this is with light usage though
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Hi ag4751.. this sounds good.. I will get odin and try this. Do you mind being more specific about the factory reset? Is this something I do within settings or do I need to do that volume up power off button thing and access the function from there? Also (probably silly question) but does factory resetting completely wipe all my data and apps? thanks

Jamie1029 said:
Hi ag4751.. this sounds good.. I will get odin and try this. Do you mind being more specific about the factory reset? Is this something I do within settings or do I need to do that volume up power off button thing and access the function from there? Also (probably silly question) but does factory resetting completely wipe all my data and apps? thanks
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Yes, factory reset will basically wipe you apps, data everything so backup everything, pictures, music etc, anything that is on your internal storage your External SD Card wont be touched everything else will, It resets the phone to the out of the box condition so if for example you are on level 300 in candy crush unless its synced up to facebook you will be back at level 1.
You do the Factory reset through Settings > User and Backup > Backup and Reset.
You will need to enable Developer Options in About Device if not already done as you need to enable USB Debugging.
Factory resetting is a last resort normally but it does tend to clear a lot of problems if the phone is not working properly but do it after you have flashed the new rom.
This is a good guide to using Odin, its on the S3 forum but the procedure is exactly the same with the S5, If you download the BTU rom it will contain a single .tar file you need to extract that from the zip file.
Reply here is you have any other questions regarding flashing with Odin it is simple but if you are not used to it, it can be worrying.

Cool. I'm downloading the firmware now. I've got USB debugging enabled. A question about the factory reset though. Is there a reason why we do this within Settings and not by pressing the power-->volume down--> home button and accessing those options? Under that menu there is also a 'wipe cache' option. Basically I was planning to flash the firmware using odin, then immediately factory reset and wipe cache before actually loading up lollipop. Does that sound ok?

Jamie1029 said:
Cool. I'm downloading the firmware now. I've got USB debugging enabled. A question about the factory reset though. Is there a reason why we do this within Settings and not by pressing the power-->volume down--> home button and accessing those options? Under that menu there is also a 'wipe cache' option. Basically I was planning to flash the firmware using odin, then immediately factory reset and wipe cache before actually loading up lollipop. Does that sound ok?
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You can do it that way, the only reason Factory Reset is in setting is to save you having to boot into recovery to do it, its exactly the same, there are additional wipe options in recovery such as cache and the factory reset, a factory reset will wipe the cache as well when its run you don't need to do it separately.
If you want to wipe the cache and factory reset from recovery it wont hurt anything.

Hi All:
Guys yesterday I got a Galaxy S5 (SM-G900F) & it have KitKat 4.4.2 also no update available for it, my csc is Malaysia where it is update to Lollipop but I didn't got any update OTA.
So I'm wondering which is the best & more stable Firmware for Galaxy S5
1- KitKat 4.4.2
2- KitKat 4.4.4
3- Lollipop
???????????

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Hi All:
Guys yesterday I got a Galaxy S5 (SM-G900F) & it have KitKat 4.4.2 also no update available for it, my csc is Malaysia where it is update to Lollipop but I didn't got any update OTA.
So I'm wondering which is the best & more stable Firmware for Galaxy S5
1- KitKat 4.4.2
2- KitKat 4.4.4
3- Lollipop
???????????
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afaik theres no 4.4.4 and according to others, 4.4.2 is the stable one

Flash new firmware

Hey all!
So, I've got a Note 3 SM-N9005 but I've got this issue. When I try to update my Kitkat to Lollipop it says "Your device have been modified, Software updates are not available". I did have it rooted around a year ago and when I click 'Status' at the device info screen, it says 'modified', so I guess that's the issue.
Either way, I'd like Lollipop since I've heard it can solve the bad wifi connection issue, but I have no clue on how to install the new firmware safe and sound on my Note 3.
Does someone have any tips for me on where to find the newest stock firmware and how to flash it on my device? Or how to remove the 'Modified' status so I can get the update over the air?
Thanks in advance!
P.s. My Knox isn't void, it still says 0x0

Google ?

Dejan Sathanas said:
Google ?
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Yeah I read a lot already, but most of it is dated back at least a few months. And I thought, since this is an expert forum.
Should I just backup everything (like put everything on my computer and use some software to backup game data + sms data etc.) and use Kies? Or should I use Odin and download stock firmware from Sammobile? I'm really not an expert and I don't want to **** it up and brick my phone.

Have a look in the developer section, there are several different custom ROM you can use, I currently have the Phronesis ROM on my Note3 it's a Lollipop Note5 ROM and it is working very good with all the Note5 features such as screen note on lock screen etc.

hi, backup all to your pc and download stock rom and flash with odin or custom rom, but if you want ota flash stock