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Does a Rooted Note 3 get OTA Updates?

Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!

gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
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I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.

GamingDj said:
I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.
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If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you

ultramag69 said:
If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you
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Thanks for the reply. Just out of curiosity about the HTC Desire HD that has since been given to a less tech-savvy relative, is there a way to unroot so the OTA update will work??

I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.

Mikegrmn said:
I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.
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Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...

gnoted said:
Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...
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The boot loader and the os itself scan for certain things such as modified kernel/recovery or installation of busy box.
The Samsung's aren't so bad, you can just flash back the stock rom and factory reset to start getting ota updates again. On htc phones you have to unlock the boot loader to root and its a one way process. Once unlocked you can never get ota updates again.
Sent from my SM-N9005

i have the same problem here, i would like to update MK2 but i cant.
used wanam exposed for fake > failed @ installation.
do i have to unroot or factory reset for update?
i dont want to install a cwm at the moment.
thx

Once you have rooted, the system partition has been modified so Samsung doesnot allow you to OTA update. It checks MD5hash for the consistency. Factory reset doesn't help because it only format userdata partition.
If you r rooted, better go to sammobile.com, download the latest firmware version, copy it to sdcard and flash via Mobile Odin Pro. This way you can keep the old bootloader so you can fallback (downgrade) to the older firmware later.

Thank you.
what is when i tripped the knox count?
Its 0x1 now. I was on new bootloader before.
Gesendet von meinem SM-N9005 mit Tapatalk 2

gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
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OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103

chemcup said:
OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103
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I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.

vinokirk said:
I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.
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Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.

BUFUMAN said:
Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.
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I need to keep Knox at 0x0.
There must be a way of updating.

A couple of people have mentioned downloading from SamMobile and flashing back to stock. If I do this, what happens to twrp?
If twrp stays, I don't want it conflicting with a non-rooted phone (due to flashing stock) and being bricked

U can get upgrade with kiss not OTA but u must install wanamp exposed n change system into official. Its work on rooted stock rom.
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[Q] New update vs Root

I have a D803 (Rogers, Canada) running stock KK 4.4.2 rooted (4.2.2 was rooted and I kept it when upgrading to KK).
Now, a new update is available (with, among other goodies, Knock Code).
Phone notifies me an update is ready. I can download it but can't install because the installer stops and displays "root is suspected".
Anyone knows a way to install the update?
Do I have to "unroot" for real or can the installer be tricked into thinking the phone is unrooted (like some sort of temporary unroot).
Thanks!

alexvtr said:
I have a D803 (Rogers, Canada) running stock KK 4.4.2 rooted (4.2.2 was rooted and I kept it when upgrading to KK).
Now, a new update is available (with, among other goodies, Knock Code).
Phone notifies me an update is ready. I can download it but can't install because the installer stops and displays "root is suspected".
Anyone knows a way to install the update?
Do I have to "unroot" for real or can the installer be tricked into thinking the phone is unrooted (like some sort of temporary unroot).
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Have you removed bloat/modified the system(xposed/mods) If so then you have to put everything back to stock
Sent from my LG-D800 running stock kk, rooted with philz using XDA app

I am in the same boat. My phone is rooted and has no bloat but it took the Kit Kat update. Now that the knock code update is out, it won't let me take the update. I get the "suspected of rooting" error message too. Only difference is I am running some Xposed modules.
I disabled my Xposed modules but left everything installed. Rebooted and attempted the update again. Still the same problem.
Then I uninstalled Xposed and all its modules and still the same problem.
If you find out how to take the update, please up date this post so the rest of us know how as well.
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XxZombiePikachu said:
Have you removed bloat/modified the system(xposed/mods) If so then you have to put everything back to stock
Sent from my LG-D800 running stock kk, rooted with philz using XDA app
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rezadue said:
I am in the same boat. My phone is rooted and has no bloat but it took the Kit Kat update. Now that the knock code update is out, it won't let me take the update. I get the "suspected of rooting" error message too. Only difference is I am running some Xposed modules.
I disabled my Xposed modules but left everything installed. Rebooted and attempted the update again. Still the same problem.
Then I uninstalled Xposed and all its modules and still the same problem.
If you find out how to take the update, please up date this post so the rest of us know how as well.
Thanks
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everything needs to be completely stock so that you can ota, if it gives the suspected of rooting then the only way to ota is to flash a stock kdz via r&d/flash tool and then update

You mean using this thread to flash back to complete stock?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476
Thanks
XxZombiePikachu said:
everything needs to be completely stock so that you can ota, if it gives the suspected of rooting then the only way to ota is to flash a stock kdz via r&d/flash tool and then update
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rezadue said:
You mean using this thread to flash back to complete stock?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476
Thanks
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yes that's correct

Updating through the 'LG PC Suite' or 'LGMobile Support Tool' should work though

Yes, except the LG suite wants to flash the Bell version of the ROM and using the KDZ file, I can flash the Rogers version of the ROM.
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Updating through the 'LG PC Suite' or 'LGMobile Support Tool' should work though
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Have stock with root and exposed and modded camera. Not risking the update. I just tap to install and then when prompted to continue, hit cancel.
Knock code does not offer me anything. So unless there is a good reason to have to re-configure the whole bloody phone ... this update will not be missed.

AT&T D850 Lollipop has been pushed!

Ermagerd. OTA is live. Just tested myself by unfreezing software update and checking ota. Large file. 683 mb. C'mon rooty goodness

Sorry, its been years since I last rooted a phone. If I'm rooted I cannot do the OTA right? I would have to have a custom recovery and flash it like that right?

Turb0wned said:
Sorry, its been years since I last rooted a phone. If I'm rooted I cannot do the OTA right? I would have to have a custom recovery and flash it like that right?
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That's correct. You can follow the return to stock method to go back to stock unrooted and ota but doing so may result in you not being able to root as there is no root method for 5.0 yet. Either wait for stock rooted to be posted by one of your awesome devs (should be soon. they are usually quick to offer stock rooted ota pkgs) or go straight stock. Since I read news today that xposed is going live for lollipop soon I am going to wait for stock rooted ota.

BreakingVZW said:
That's correct. You can follow the return to stock method to go back to stock unrooted and ota but doing so may result in you not being able to root as there is no root method for 5.0 yet. Either wait for stock rooted to be posted by one of your awesome devs (should be soon. they are usually quick to offer stock rooted ota pkgs) or go straight stock. Since I read news today that xposed is going live for lollipop soon I am going to wait for stock rooted ota.
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Thank you! I'll wait, what's a few hours going to do! Hope battery life is improved!

Me too..!!
BreakingVZW said:
That's correct. You can follow the return to stock method to go back to stock unrooted and ota but doing so may result in you not being able to root as there is no root method for 5.0 yet. Either wait for stock rooted to be posted by one of your awesome devs (should be soon. they are usually quick to offer stock rooted ota pkgs) or go straight stock. Since I read news today that xposed is going live for lollipop soon I am going to wait for stock rooted ota.
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I am also thinking to wait for the rooted stock one to be posted... Currently on Illusion rom and its running great.. Some bugs, but can live with it until stock one arrives.. Good advise @BreakingVZW.. Thanks..

I unrooted and factory re-set the phone. Two different root checkers say I am not rooted. However, I get a message that I cannot update because a root is detected!!! Have tried 3 times now. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!!
LG-D850 D85010f on AT&T

Turb0wned said:
Thank you! I'll wait, what's a few hours going to do! Hope battery life is improved!
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Lol Idk if it will be only a couple of hours. That'd be nice but our devs have lives and do this stuff in their spare time. In theory they SHOULD be able to follow the same method devs from the international versions used to give users their rooted ota updates but sometimes it's just not that easy. This is the first US carrier release for the G3 so there may be security updates that weren't present in the international releases.

Spartanguy83 said:
I unrooted and factory re-set the phone. Two different root checkers say I am not rooted. However, I get a message that I cannot update because a root is detected!!! Have tried 3 times now. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!!
LG-D850 D85010f on AT&T
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You restored stock via flash tools ? That'd be a first I've heard of persistent root after a pure factory reset via that method. Did you get the green pass message when completed and all?

You may want to attempt a 10D flash instead of 10f. I never have issues restoring with 10d

BreakingVZW said:
You restored stock via flash tools ? That'd be a first I've heard of persistent root after a pure factory reset via that method. Did you get the green pass message when completed and all?
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You may want to attempt a 10D flash instead of 10f. I never have issues restoring with 10d
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Yes I did. I found this (via a YouTube tutorial) that I am going to try. I post back!

An applicatin requires and update requested by google play services
When I click on this I just get the options of deactivate and open???

Camera API?
Does anyone know if the Lolipop update has the new Lolipop camera API?

Hope they will release it for d855 soon.

magikmichael said:
Hope they will release it for d855 soon.
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D855 got official lollipop a long time ago, it was the first G3 variant to receive it.

4ndroid99 said:
D855 got official lollipop a long time ago, it was the first G3 variant to receive it.
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Yes 5.0. But at&t got 5.0.1 if im not mistaking.
Yep it has: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...rly-700mb-d85020f-update-packs-android-5-0-1/

it may be harder for ATT g3 to get a L flashable rom due to lack of KDZ for ATT devices.. where the international users can just split the KDZ and repack into zip.
if someone wants to send me an AT&T g3 I can make one though

autoprime said:
it may be harder for ATT g3 to get a L flashable rom due to lack of KDZ for ATT devices.. where the international users can just split the KDZ and repack into zip.
if someone wants to send me an AT&T g3 I can make one though
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So the method of pre-rooting won't work with D850 lollipop BC it uses tot? KitKat for our variant uses tot as well and they still got us a rooted ota 10f update. Most posts I've read about G3 lollipop (lg stock not aosp) have said in order to have root on Lollipop you have to be on KitKat to use the same exploit used on KitKat. Is that not a viable solution anymore? I actually like the lg stock ROM and features. If we can't root the stock g3 rom on lollipop I'm going to have to look into getting a nexus 6 and will sell this. Xposed is apparently up and running well with lollipop and I gotsta has me ma xposed.

How is the 5.0.1 update running? Hope that the D855 version will be releasing soon. I'm on 5.0 V20H version and it's runs great

AndroidCity said:
How is the 5.0.1 update running? Hope that the D855 version will be releasing soon. I'm on 5.0 V20H version and it's runs great
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Don't know. I want to OTA and all but I need root. I use many programs that require root and just not having the ability to remove bloatware is reason enough for me to wait for a rooted OTA. Really hope one of the devs can figure out how to make a flashable OTA zip.

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So the method of pre-rooting won't work with D850 lollipop BC it uses tot? KitKat for our variant uses tot as well and they still got us a rooted ota 10f update. Most posts I've read about G3 lollipop (lg stock not aosp) have said in order to have root on Lollipop you have to be on KitKat to use the same exploit used on KitKat. Is that not a viable solution anymore? I actually like the lg stock ROM and features. If we can't root the stock g3 rom on lollipop I'm going to have to look into getting a nexus 6 and will sell this. Xposed is apparently up and running well with lollipop and I gotsta has me ma xposed.
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10f had a rom because there was still root on 10f and you could backup system, boot and modem.
someone may have another solution worked out.. or even a tot to pull the files from. but it's not going to be as easy as it was previously due to no public root for L at the moment, the difficulty of getting a tot and lack of KDZ. Unfortunately I only have the T-Mobile version.. otherwise I'd be able to make one for you guys.

Been a while.

Hi there folks,
I havent messed around with rooting etc my phone in a while. I rooted last year when it was available to do so but have not updated since. Now that 5.0 is out i have a couple questions for updating ( getting tired of the ota message every day from Verizon to update) sorry if this has been answered already but just trying to get an idea on what to do. Currently, im on 4.4.2. What is the best way to update now and can i root 5.0?
should i follow this guide to go back to stock and then update ota and then root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784880
I thank you for any help.
thanks

Dbrock1980 said:
Hi there folks,
I havent messed around with rooting etc my phone in a while. I rooted last year when it was available to do so but have not updated since. Now that 5.0 is out i have a couple questions for updating ( getting tired of the ota message every day from Verizon to update) sorry if this has been answered already but just trying to get an idea on what to do. Currently, im on 4.4.2. What is the best way to update now and can i root 5.0?
should i follow this guide to go back to stock and then update ota and then root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784880
I thank you for any help.
thanks
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Follow this guide if you want lollipop (OA8) or follow mine for kitkat (NK2 and below).

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Follow this guide if you want lollipop (OA8) or follow mine for kitkat (NK2 and below).
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Thanks!

Root before taking Lollipop update?

Hey guys. Have a new G2 on the way. I had one a few months ago and used Stump Root to get it rooted. I never flashed any ROMs or even a custom recovery. Just rooted so I could use Xposed.
When the new one arrives do I need to root before taking the Lollipop update? Will it keep root? Or should I root after Lollipop, if Lollipop has even been rooted.
Thanks for the help!

only one haze said:
Hey guys. Have a new G2 on the way. I had one a few months ago and used Stump Root to get it rooted. I never flashed any ROMs or even a custom recovery. Just rooted so I could use Xposed.
When the new one arrives do I need to root before taking the Lollipop update? Will it keep root? Or should I root after Lollipop, if Lollipop has even been rooted.
Thanks for the help!
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i just tried to take the OTA thursday night and it put my g2 into boot loop. i had to go into recovery and restore previous backup.
i think your gonna need to take the update then root, i'm trying to figure out how to unroot so i can then take to OTA then root again. i want to try the Xenon HD rom afterwards
you might get lucky and it come with the update already if you just ordered it