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Does a Rooted Note 3 get OTA Updates?

Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!

gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
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I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.

GamingDj said:
I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.
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If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you

ultramag69 said:
If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you
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Thanks for the reply. Just out of curiosity about the HTC Desire HD that has since been given to a less tech-savvy relative, is there a way to unroot so the OTA update will work??

I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.

Mikegrmn said:
I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.
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Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...

gnoted said:
Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...
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The boot loader and the os itself scan for certain things such as modified kernel/recovery or installation of busy box.
The Samsung's aren't so bad, you can just flash back the stock rom and factory reset to start getting ota updates again. On htc phones you have to unlock the boot loader to root and its a one way process. Once unlocked you can never get ota updates again.
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i have the same problem here, i would like to update MK2 but i cant.
used wanam exposed for fake > failed @ installation.
do i have to unroot or factory reset for update?
i dont want to install a cwm at the moment.
thx

Once you have rooted, the system partition has been modified so Samsung doesnot allow you to OTA update. It checks MD5hash for the consistency. Factory reset doesn't help because it only format userdata partition.
If you r rooted, better go to sammobile.com, download the latest firmware version, copy it to sdcard and flash via Mobile Odin Pro. This way you can keep the old bootloader so you can fallback (downgrade) to the older firmware later.

Thank you.
what is when i tripped the knox count?
Its 0x1 now. I was on new bootloader before.
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gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
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OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103

chemcup said:
OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103
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I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.

vinokirk said:
I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.
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Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.

BUFUMAN said:
Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.
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I need to keep Knox at 0x0.
There must be a way of updating.

A couple of people have mentioned downloading from SamMobile and flashing back to stock. If I do this, what happens to twrp?
If twrp stays, I don't want it conflicting with a non-rooted phone (due to flashing stock) and being bricked

U can get upgrade with kiss not OTA but u must install wanamp exposed n change system into official. Its work on rooted stock rom.
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[Q] Download Mode Rooted Status

Hey guys
I have flashed 20B on my phone. Than i noticed that kitkat update has come to my phone. Then i download the kdz and flashed it. The thing is the rooted label is still there. How can i get rid of it? My phone's suffix is A6WTWH. Thanks in advance!

abdulkadiro said:
Hey guys
I have flashed 20B on my phone. Than i noticed that kitkat update has come to my phone. Then i download the kdz and flashed it. The thing is the rooted label is still there. How can i get rid of it? My phone's suffix is A6WTWH. Thanks in advance!
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I've noticed this several times. It seems that the red ROOTED text only appears when you root the stock rom, or when you flash a .kdz format rom manually (rooted or not). I am currently running a Germany open rom on my international G2 which is not rooted. Yet still I see the red ROOTED text in download mode. Right now I'm using the firmware recovery option in the official LG Mobile Support Tool to recover to the international stock rom. I hope this is the KitKat rom but I'm not shure...
Maybe you should try to revert to the stock rom downloaded by the LG Mobile Support Tool, and hope It's the KitKat version. If not, maybe use the stock 4.2 and wait for the official release for your specific country.

sanchaz12 said:
I've noticed this several times. It seems that the red ROOTED text only appears when you root the stock rom, or when you flash a .kdz format rom manually (rooted or not). I am currently running a Germany open rom on my international G2 which is not rooted. Yet still I see the red ROOTED text in download mode. Right now I'm using the firmware recovery option in the official LG Mobile Support Tool to recover to the international stock rom. I hope this is the KitKat rom but I'm not shure...
Maybe you should try to revert to the stock rom downloaded by the LG Mobile Support Tool, and hope It's the KitKat version. If not, maybe use the stock 4.2 and wait for the official release for your specific country.
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Is that work for you?

abdulkadiro said:
Is that work for you?
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The download was complete and my phone was restored to stock. It was a suprise that it actually is the KitKat update...
Unfortunately I also still have the red ROOTED text in download mode, while the rom is clean and official. I am sure the thing I said in my previous post applies to Android 4.2 as restoring the same way before KitKat changed the text to UNROOTED in grey. Maybe LG released an update so that once you root or flash a custom rom the rootchecker permanently states ROOTED. Maybe not, could also be some kind of bug in the early KitKat releases.
In your case you would probably end up having a completely stock rom but still having the ROOTED text just like me. I'd say its not worth your time and having to restore all your data and apps, but that's up to you...

sanchaz12 said:
The download was complete and my phone was restored to stock. It was a suprise that it actually is the KitKat update...
Unfortunately I also still have the red ROOTED text in download mode, while the rom is clean and official. I am sure the thing I said in my previous post applies to Android 4.2 as restoring the same way before KitKat changed the text to UNROOTED in grey. Maybe LG released an update so that once you root or flash a custom rom the rootchecker permanently states ROOTED. Maybe not, could also be some kind of bug in the early KitKat releases.
In your case you would probably end up having a completely stock rom but still having the ROOTED text just like me. I'd say its not worth your time and having to restore all your data and apps, but that's up to you...
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I guess if you flash 10f or something the rooted label will be gone. I have read it in somewhere. But idk how can we update our phones to kitkat with no rooted notification

Yesterday I did "Update bootloader" through LG Mobile Support Tool. After that my D802 shows "unrooted".

abdulkadiro said:
I guess if you flash 10f or something the rooted label will be gone. I have read it in somewhere. But idk how can we update our phones to kitkat with no rooted notification
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The V10f version is Android 4.2.2. It's true that when you flash this version there will be no ROOTED notification.
I'll try to update my boot loader as mentioned in the post above this weekend.

infomenas said:
Yesterday I did "Update bootloader" through LG Mobile Support Tool. After that my D802 shows "unrooted".
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can you explain it step by step?
I cant find anything about bootloader

abdulkadiro said:
can you explain it step by step?
I cant find anything about bootloader
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Yeah, sorry, that's called "Upgrade recovery" in "Options menu". It seems that it reflashes the ROM and sets root checker to unrooted.

You should wipe and fastory reset before doing upgrade with lg mobile support tool
Reset when you are on custom recovery and after reseted do not power on the phone
Let go to download mode and do the update
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I have try to repair update or smt. like that but it doesnt solve that issue. And i cant flash 10f on my phone. What should i do?

Note 3 wont update to kitkat

Hey this is my first post and Im sorry if some of this is a repeat, I looked around for a little bit and wasnt able to find any answers.
I have a note 3 on verizon and i finally got it rooted on MJE. I have SuperSU installed as well as xposed installer as well as wanam xposed and a couple modules. I was trying to update via OTA and it constantly gives me error 402. I have tried hiding superuser and it says on odin? i believe that im on the offical rom and everything.
i just cant get onto kit kat no matter what i do. it downloads and once it tries updating i get the error.
Is there anything im really missing out on with kit kat? I want to install S view all covers and also want the XLTE. thats the main reasons for me wanting to update.
Is there something wrong with my phone? How can i get the update now? Thanks

Inovazn628 said:
Hey this is my first post and Im sorry if some of this is a repeat, I looked around for a little bit and wasnt able to find any answers.
I have a note 3 on verizon and i finally got it rooted on MJE. I have SuperSU installed as well as xposed installer as well as wanam xposed and a couple modules. I was trying to update via OTA and it constantly gives me error 402. I have tried hiding superuser and it says on odin? i believe that im on the offical rom and everything.
i just cant get onto kit kat no matter what i do. it downloads and once it tries updating i get the error.
Is there anything im really missing out on with kit kat? I want to install S view all covers and also want the XLTE. thats the main reasons for me wanting to update.
Is there something wrong with my phone? How can i get the update now? Thanks
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You need to be unrooted stock to accept the OTA. Currently no way to root the ota. However there is a kitkat build (nc2) that was rooted. This is the build that everyone is working off of, so you can just flash the firmware / nc2 rom and you will be on kitkat rooted.

Thanks for the reply!
I've heard of people still taking the Ota while keeping root by putting supersu on survival mode though. Should I check that off and then click unroot in Supersu to take the Ota? Thanks

sfld said:
You need to be unrooted stock to accept the OTA. Currently no way to root the ota. However there is a kitkat build (nc2) that was rooted. This is the build that everyone is working off of, so you can just flash the firmware / nc2 rom and you will be on kitkat rooted.
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You do NOT need to be unrooted, but you do need SuperSU to be in survival mode.
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donc113 said:
You do NOT need to be unrooted, but you do need SuperSU to be in survival mode.
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okay so whats seems to be the problem with my note 3 not updating then? Im pretty much lost haha. It reboots into recovery and then goes about 33% on updating before getting a error and restarting.

Inovazn628 said:
okay so whats seems to be the problem with my note 3 not updating then? Im pretty much lost haha. It reboots into recovery and then goes about 33% on updating before getting a error and restarting.
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Have you ever installed safestrap or anything similar?
Also remove all xposed modules, etc.
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Inovazn628 said:
Is there anything im really missing out on with kit kat? I want to install S view all covers and also want the XLTE. thats the main reasons for me wanting to update.
Is there something wrong with my phone? How can i get the update now? Thanks
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Try installing just the nc4 radio for xlte. Have you tried the leaked NC2 KK? I'd stay rooted personally ... samsung stuff has too much bloat and will run like a pig.

donc113 said:
Have you ever installed safestrap or anything similar?
Also remove all xposed modules, etc.
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Nope I just I have supersu. I disabled superuser and then I Uninstaller all the modules. I also uninstalled the framework for xposed. Is there anything else that could be causing it?

Inovazn628 said:
Nope I just I have supersu. I disabled superuser and then I Uninstaller all the modules. I also uninstalled the framework for xposed. Is there anything else that could be causing it?
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not that I know of.
You may have to reflash MJE and reroot it.
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AT&T D850 Lollipop has been pushed!

Ermagerd. OTA is live. Just tested myself by unfreezing software update and checking ota. Large file. 683 mb. C'mon rooty goodness

Sorry, its been years since I last rooted a phone. If I'm rooted I cannot do the OTA right? I would have to have a custom recovery and flash it like that right?

Turb0wned said:
Sorry, its been years since I last rooted a phone. If I'm rooted I cannot do the OTA right? I would have to have a custom recovery and flash it like that right?
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That's correct. You can follow the return to stock method to go back to stock unrooted and ota but doing so may result in you not being able to root as there is no root method for 5.0 yet. Either wait for stock rooted to be posted by one of your awesome devs (should be soon. they are usually quick to offer stock rooted ota pkgs) or go straight stock. Since I read news today that xposed is going live for lollipop soon I am going to wait for stock rooted ota.

BreakingVZW said:
That's correct. You can follow the return to stock method to go back to stock unrooted and ota but doing so may result in you not being able to root as there is no root method for 5.0 yet. Either wait for stock rooted to be posted by one of your awesome devs (should be soon. they are usually quick to offer stock rooted ota pkgs) or go straight stock. Since I read news today that xposed is going live for lollipop soon I am going to wait for stock rooted ota.
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Thank you! I'll wait, what's a few hours going to do! Hope battery life is improved!

Me too..!!
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That's correct. You can follow the return to stock method to go back to stock unrooted and ota but doing so may result in you not being able to root as there is no root method for 5.0 yet. Either wait for stock rooted to be posted by one of your awesome devs (should be soon. they are usually quick to offer stock rooted ota pkgs) or go straight stock. Since I read news today that xposed is going live for lollipop soon I am going to wait for stock rooted ota.
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I am also thinking to wait for the rooted stock one to be posted... Currently on Illusion rom and its running great.. Some bugs, but can live with it until stock one arrives.. Good advise @BreakingVZW.. Thanks..

I unrooted and factory re-set the phone. Two different root checkers say I am not rooted. However, I get a message that I cannot update because a root is detected!!! Have tried 3 times now. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!!
LG-D850 D85010f on AT&T

Turb0wned said:
Thank you! I'll wait, what's a few hours going to do! Hope battery life is improved!
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Lol Idk if it will be only a couple of hours. That'd be nice but our devs have lives and do this stuff in their spare time. In theory they SHOULD be able to follow the same method devs from the international versions used to give users their rooted ota updates but sometimes it's just not that easy. This is the first US carrier release for the G3 so there may be security updates that weren't present in the international releases.

Spartanguy83 said:
I unrooted and factory re-set the phone. Two different root checkers say I am not rooted. However, I get a message that I cannot update because a root is detected!!! Have tried 3 times now. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!!
LG-D850 D85010f on AT&T
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You restored stock via flash tools ? That'd be a first I've heard of persistent root after a pure factory reset via that method. Did you get the green pass message when completed and all?

You may want to attempt a 10D flash instead of 10f. I never have issues restoring with 10d

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You restored stock via flash tools ? That'd be a first I've heard of persistent root after a pure factory reset via that method. Did you get the green pass message when completed and all?
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You may want to attempt a 10D flash instead of 10f. I never have issues restoring with 10d
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Yes I did. I found this (via a YouTube tutorial) that I am going to try. I post back!

An applicatin requires and update requested by google play services
When I click on this I just get the options of deactivate and open???

Camera API?
Does anyone know if the Lolipop update has the new Lolipop camera API?

Hope they will release it for d855 soon.

magikmichael said:
Hope they will release it for d855 soon.
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D855 got official lollipop a long time ago, it was the first G3 variant to receive it.

4ndroid99 said:
D855 got official lollipop a long time ago, it was the first G3 variant to receive it.
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Yes 5.0. But at&t got 5.0.1 if im not mistaking.
Yep it has: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...rly-700mb-d85020f-update-packs-android-5-0-1/

it may be harder for ATT g3 to get a L flashable rom due to lack of KDZ for ATT devices.. where the international users can just split the KDZ and repack into zip.
if someone wants to send me an AT&T g3 I can make one though

autoprime said:
it may be harder for ATT g3 to get a L flashable rom due to lack of KDZ for ATT devices.. where the international users can just split the KDZ and repack into zip.
if someone wants to send me an AT&T g3 I can make one though
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So the method of pre-rooting won't work with D850 lollipop BC it uses tot? KitKat for our variant uses tot as well and they still got us a rooted ota 10f update. Most posts I've read about G3 lollipop (lg stock not aosp) have said in order to have root on Lollipop you have to be on KitKat to use the same exploit used on KitKat. Is that not a viable solution anymore? I actually like the lg stock ROM and features. If we can't root the stock g3 rom on lollipop I'm going to have to look into getting a nexus 6 and will sell this. Xposed is apparently up and running well with lollipop and I gotsta has me ma xposed.

How is the 5.0.1 update running? Hope that the D855 version will be releasing soon. I'm on 5.0 V20H version and it's runs great

AndroidCity said:
How is the 5.0.1 update running? Hope that the D855 version will be releasing soon. I'm on 5.0 V20H version and it's runs great
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Don't know. I want to OTA and all but I need root. I use many programs that require root and just not having the ability to remove bloatware is reason enough for me to wait for a rooted OTA. Really hope one of the devs can figure out how to make a flashable OTA zip.

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So the method of pre-rooting won't work with D850 lollipop BC it uses tot? KitKat for our variant uses tot as well and they still got us a rooted ota 10f update. Most posts I've read about G3 lollipop (lg stock not aosp) have said in order to have root on Lollipop you have to be on KitKat to use the same exploit used on KitKat. Is that not a viable solution anymore? I actually like the lg stock ROM and features. If we can't root the stock g3 rom on lollipop I'm going to have to look into getting a nexus 6 and will sell this. Xposed is apparently up and running well with lollipop and I gotsta has me ma xposed.
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10f had a rom because there was still root on 10f and you could backup system, boot and modem.
someone may have another solution worked out.. or even a tot to pull the files from. but it's not going to be as easy as it was previously due to no public root for L at the moment, the difficulty of getting a tot and lack of KDZ. Unfortunately I only have the T-Mobile version.. otherwise I'd be able to make one for you guys.

[warning!!!] [psa] do not - *do not* root your phone if you want updates

A warning to all of you!
Now that T-Mobile has started soak tests for Android 5.1.1 for the S6, I went to the "Update" page in settings. I clicked update... and alas... it said my device has been modified in an "unauthorized way", and refused to update.
Hiding superuser from SuperSU's setting did nothing whatsoever. I have a custom kernel and I've rooted.
So a warning to all of you - don't root your phone if you want updates.

How is this new?
Sent from my SM-G925F

skivnit said:
How is this new?
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Lol

I believe you still can update your phone legibly through smart switch
or kies if you using older samsung device

So basically your saying its like it has been from the beginning? Say it aint so!!!

tusing said:
A warning to all of you!
Now that T-Mobile has started soak tests for Android 5.1.1 for the S6, I went to the "Update" page in settings. I clicked update... and alas... it said my device has been modified in an "unauthorized way", and refused to update.
Hiding superuser from SuperSU's setting did nothing whatsoever. I have a custom kernel and I've rooted.
So a warning to all of you - don't root your phone if you want updates.
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You need stock kernel briski

Odin

Stock kernel and stock recovery should be enough. Or flash the same ROM as you have on top on your current throught Odin, update and re-root. But I'm not sure that root is already available to 5.1.1

This apply to any brand root phone. No OTA will work with root phone, some more you in custom kernel.

Where could I get a stock kernel for Rogers mobile?

Actually anyone can still get ota normally if they just rooted their with everything stock kernel rom and so..

anonymousss said:
Actually anyone can still get ota normally if they just rooted their with everything stock kernel rom and so..
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I have stock kernel amd stock recovery and i cant OTA.

prking07 said:
I have stock kernel amd stock recovery and i cant OTA.
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Mine was fine with OTA after rooting, if you have an issue then just flash stock recovery back and you will be good to go and still have root!

prking07 said:
I have stock kernel amd stock recovery and i cant OTA.
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Oh.. how can u tell ? Have u received any ota and tried ?

anonymousss said:
Oh.. how can u tell ? Have u received any ota and tried ?
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Cause of this, and this is with stock kernel and stock recovery, just rooted.

prking07 said:
Cause of this, and this is with stock kernel and stock recovery, just rooted.
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Aha well the previous comment someone seems to have an ota with root no problems anyways..

prking07 said:
Cause of this, and this is with stock kernel and stock recovery, just rooted.
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Then just re-flash stock recovery after rooting and you will be ok!!!
We all know that rooting borks the system files somehow as we all no longer have Deep Sleep after rooting so dropping stock recovery back resolved the issue for me and I no longer received the "modified" message when checking for updates. With TWRP recovery I do get the message. If that does not work for you then simply re-flash the stock rom, get your update (if any) and re-root if necessary.

chippyuk said:
Then just re-flash stock recovery after rooting and you will be ok!!!
We all know that rooting borks the system files somehow as we all no longer have Deep Sleep after rooting so dropping stock recovery back resolved the issue for me and I no longer received the "modified" message when checking for updates. With TWRP recovery I do get the message. If that does not work for you then simply re-flash the stock rom, get your update (if any) and re-root if necessary.
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Lot of conflicting info in this thread. I'm confused.
From what I understand, the latest Firmware update/OTA (OCF build, I am sprint) fixed the deep sleep issue. So if you have that build and applied root, you should still be good, right?
An if you apply root, you cant take an OTA because it modifies recovery. But you are saying if you root, then re-flash stock recovery, you maintain root and can still receive and OTA. Can someone confirm all this as accurate?

jazenf said:
Where could I get a stock kernel for Rogers mobile?
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You can get it from this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/sm-g925f-s6-firmware-thread-t3078841

I've had a quick just around but can't find any info on the negatives of rooting the s6. What functionalities do you loose by rooting this phone even if you install a modified Samsung rom? I didn't get the z3 because once rooted you lost digital rights to the hi def audio and camera processing