Just noticed that Google services was updated to include on-body detection, which allows your device to remain unlocked while you're carrying it around. Have yet to play around with it long enough to see if works well.
floepie said:
Just noticed that Google services was updated to include on-body detection, which allows your device to remain unlocked while you're carrying it around. Have yet to play around with it long enough to see if works well.
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Yes it does work well. Only getting a slight impact on the battery with which i can very well adjust.
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Yes it does work well. Only getting a slight impact on the battery with which i can very well adjust.
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Curious: How are you able to determine its impact on your battery life. My battery life fluctuates greatly on a daily basis, so much so that there is no way I could ever extract such info.
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Curious: How are you able to determine its impact on your battery life. My battery life fluctuates greatly on a daily basis, so much so that there is no way I could ever extract such info.
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Until i enabled the option i used to get 5+ hours SOT and the battery lasted for around 18 - 20 hours.
Since i enabled it it lasts for 4-4.5hrs SOT and around the same standby.
The only variable changed was smart lock on body detection was enabled.
Though the impact is not so much. But easily came to my notice.
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grubber24 said:
Until i enabled the option i used to get 5+ hours SOT and the battery lasted for around 18 - 20 hours.
Since i enabled it it lasts for 4-4.5hrs SOT and around the same standby.
The only variable changed was smart lock on body detection was enabled.
Though the impact is not so much. But easily came to my notice.
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Wait, so you're willing to say that this feature alone is responsible for an average 15% battery hit. That's not even remotely slight. That would be outright scandalous. I don't doubt what you see, but there are just too many variables at play.
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Wait, so you're willing to say that this feature alone is responsible for an average 15% battery hit. That's not even remotely slight. That would be outright scandalous. I don't doubt what you see, but there are just too many variables at play.
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The other variable that might be at play is that the trusted places that has stopped working and that might be trying to poll my location. Other than that no other variable (including the signal strength) has changed. So i could isolate the problem to the whole smart unlock features. I will turn it off once and report my findings here.
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Starting using On-body detection and found that if you turn your screen off then put the phone down it will remain unlocked. You have to pit it down and let the screen turn off by itself.
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Starting using On-body detection and found that if you turn your screen off then put the phone down it will remain unlocked. You have to pit it down and let the screen turn off by itself.
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For me it locks after a couple of minutes when kept down on a flat surface. And it works irrespective of whether i lock it before or not. I checked this with 2 other phones with this feature available.
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floepie said:
Just noticed that Google services was updated to include on-body detection, which allows your device to remain unlocked while you're carrying it around. Have yet to play around with it long enough to see if works well.
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I don't get how it works, anybody could carry my phone and unlock it? Or it continues to keep my phone unlocked when I unlock it with every other methods?
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pro.gangster said:
I don't get how it works, anybody could carry my phone and unlock it? Or it continues to keep my phone unlocked when I unlock it with every other methods?
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Its not another smart unlock method used to skip the secured lock. It just keeps the phone unlocked while the phone is in your hand or in your pockets through the various sensors present on the phone.
You may get screwed if someone snatches the phone while your are using it that's the worst case scenario.
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Where is this option? Don't see it.
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Where is this option? Don't see it.
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Settings/Security/Smart Lock
grubber24 said:
Until i enabled the option i used to get 5+ hours SOT and the battery lasted for around 18 - 20 hours.
Since i enabled it it lasts for 4-4.5hrs SOT and around the same standby.
The only variable changed was smart lock on body detection was enabled.
Though the impact is not so much. But easily came to my notice.
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I would love to hear how you get 4-4.5 hours of SOT. I hardly get 3 hours. Can you share some details about your setup? apps? etc.?
Thanks,
~Andy
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I would love to hear how you get 4-4.5 hours of SOT. I hardly get 3 hours. Can you share some details about your setup? apps? etc.?
Thanks,
~Andy
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Hello.
There are many variables working together affecting the battery life.
1. Signal Strength: where i live i get a very strong signal so the phone has to work less to get the signal.
2. Using wifi: all the result i stated was on wifi with preferred network set to 2g.
3. Location: This is funny, i get better results when on high accuracy as the phone is located faster and thus the CPU consumed by the gps is much less. Here too wifi helps.
4. Moto Apps: i use drive assist only when m going out. Home, sleep and meeting are also on.
5. Sync: i have kept the sync settings in google to minimal. Only gmail, G+ and calendar are synced.
6. Daily Restart: i restart my phone daily to keep away from nasty memory leaks and app restarts which affect performance and battery.
7. Other Apps: use mostly amoled friendly apps with manual syncing. That too not too many apps are installed.
These settings will increase standby time. Note that you actually have to use the phone to get better sot within the battery cycle.
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I unfortunately do not have that option. Which play services do u have installed. 7.099 I have
icedmayhem said:
I unfortunately do not have that option. Which play services do u have installed. 7.099 I have
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You can find it in settings>>security>>smart lock>>on body detection. But its a staged rollout and must be started for you by google.
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Thanks, figured that after it was not there
I think this option is in lollipop only... bcoz dont hav this smart lock option in 4.4.4...
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Thanks, figured that after it was not there
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varinder jaswal said:
I think this option is in lollipop only... bcoz dont hav this smart lock option in 4.4.4...
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I still don't have it on 5.0.2... Hah. Is it pure only?
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I still don't have it on 5.0.2... Hah. Is it pure only?
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You might have to factory reset your device. That's what I had to do on mine (at&t model 5.0.2). I tried downloading the latest google play services but still didn't show up so I factory reset my device and it showed after several minutes of setting up my device back
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So, I got a Galaxy S4 back at the beginning of December, and the battery life has just been awful since I got it. I'm talking 5 hours max.. of juice. Its bugging me because I have tried so many different options and nothing makes it last any longer. One time I got 8 hours and I was like planning on throwing a parade because it was so groundbreaking for my GS4.
Here's what I normally have going on:
Admittedly I use my phone quite a bit and it's always on full brightness because hey its a $600 1080p phone so I want to be able to use it to its full potential.
I do not have one game installed. Never been a huge fan of mobile gaming.
I usually have a 4-5 bar 4G signal and barely use my wifi because it's like 300kb/s down.. And really spotty.
I may listen to 30 minutes of music a day.
Most of the time I'm on twitter and looking up stuff on Chrome.
This is not a battery issue I do not believe because my brother got the same phone and he has had similar issues. My brother uses his phone maybe half the time I do, so I doubt it is my usage that is bringing it down. I seriously do not want to have to contact Samsung for them to tell me it probably has water damage and then ask me to wait 2 weeks to get my phone back. My phone does tend to get warm from time to time but I've seen multiple reports of that. My iPhone 4 that I upgraded got 8 or 9 hours of battery life on similar use. (Android rocks)
So what is the problem?
P. S. my phone ran down 8% while typing this.
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So, I got a Galaxy S4 back at the beginning of December, and the battery life has just been awful since I got it. I'm talking 5 hours max.. of juice. Its bugging me because I have tried so many different options and nothing makes it last any longer. One time I got 8 hours and I was like planning on throwing a parade because it was so groundbreaking for my GS4.
Here's what I normally have going on:
Admittedly I use my phone quite a bit and it's always on full brightness because hey its a $600 1080p phone so I want to be able to use it to its full potential.
I do not have one game installed. Never been a huge fan of mobile gaming.
I usually have a 4-5 bar 4G signal and barely use my wifi because it's like 300kb/s down.. And really spotty.
I may listen to 30 minutes of music a day.
Most of the time I'm on twitter and looking up stuff on Chrome.
This is not a battery issue I do not believe because my brother got the same phone and he has had similar issues. My brother uses his phone maybe half the time I do, so I doubt it is my usage that is bringing it down. I seriously do not want to have to contact Samsung for them to tell me it probably has water damage and then ask me to wait 2 weeks to get my phone back. My phone does tend to get warm from time to time but I've seen multiple reports of that. My iPhone 4 that I upgraded got 8 or 9 hours of battery life on similar use. (Android rocks)
So what is the problem?
P. S. my phone ran down 8% while typing this.
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Are you running a custom or stock rom? And are you rooted?
Look at your battery usage in settings. Screen should be number 1. What's after that? Get betterbatterystats and see where your wake locks are. Without some additional info it's hard to help you
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Are you running a custom or stock rom? And are you rooted?
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No I am not rooted anymore. My phone had a locked bootloader so I just uninstalled some bloatware and unrooted. I have had the problems since I got it.
Android 4.3
AT&T i337
MK2 Firmware
jd1639 said:
Look at your battery usage in settings. Screen should be number 1. What's after that? Get betterbatterystats and see where your wake locks are. Without some additional info it's hard to help you
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It depends on what I am using the most. Most of the time its below 10% of total battery use. I would say it is mostly Chrome at 4-8%.
Right now it has been on for 37 minutes and is at 85% battery.
84% screen
7% Chrome
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It depends on what I am using the most. Most of the time its below 10% of total battery use. I would say it is mostly Chrome at 4-8%.
Right now it has been on for 37 minutes and is at 85% battery.
84% screen
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so under battery usage it's just screen and chrome usually ? (iId dump chrome to begin with anyway)
Is GPS on ? Any other apps that would be constantly syncing like facebook, twitter, etc ?
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so under battery usage it's just screen and chrome usually ? (iId dump chrome to begin with anyway)
Is GPS on ? Any other apps that would be constantly syncing like facebook, twitter, etc ?
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Yes, normally screen and chrome are the biggest consumers but I do use a few more apps. I've been wanting a Chrome alternative, but nothing I've tried has been as efficient.
I do use Twitter and Facebook(rarely), but at the same time, my brother doesn't use any social media and his battery isn't much better.
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Yes, normally screen and chrome are the biggest consumers but I do use a few more apps. I've been wanting a Chrome alternative, but nothing I've tried has been as efficient.
I do use Twitter and Facebook(rarely), but at the same time, my brother doesn't use any social media and his battery isn't much better.
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The biggest user of battery would be the screen, LTE, and GPS or location based processes. Honestly LTE that doesn't use much unless you are streaming all the time. Something isn't letting you phone go to sleep and if you can root I would just do it to be able to use an app like greenify or another wakelock killer that lets you keep apps from keeping you phone awake. Also turning off sync in general helps i.e making you refresh stuff manually.
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The biggest user of battery would be the screen, LTE, and GPS or location based processes. Honestly LTE that doesn't use much unless you are streaming all the time. Something isn't letting you phone go to sleep and if you can root I would just do it to be able to use an app like greenify or another wakelock killer that lets you keep apps from keeping you phone awake. Also turning off sync in general helps i.e making you refresh stuff manually.
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Thanks for your help so by the way. I always have gps off and I only get regular 4G in my area. I will check with Facebook and try to turn off automatic syncing. Rooting is an option, last time I went through kingo and did it just fine until I tried to flash Cm over my locked bootloader *facepalm* Haha. I haven't heard anything definitive on the downside of using that tool. It was very simple. Would you suggest me going that route for Greenway?
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Thanks for your help so by the way. I always have gps off and I only get regular 4G in my area. I will check with Facebook and try to turn off automatic syncing. Rooting is an option, last time I went through kingo and did it just fine until I tried to flash Cm over my locked bootloader *facepalm* Haha. I haven't heard anything definitive on the downside of using that tool. It was very simple. Would you suggest me going that route for Greenway?
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No problem just hit the thank button
I'd root and just leave it stock the rest of the way. With battery life it's always YMMV. The battery stats given in the setting menu don't tell you much so apps like wakelock detector or Greenify allow you to stop apps from "waking" the device all the time to either push notifications, sysnc, do whatever crap they do in the background. You could also get something called better battery stats, the app in on xda just google it, and let it run from full charge to dead and then take some screenshots of partial wake locks, how often CPU is in deep sleep etc and others can help sort some out.
Just root with Kingo as its easy and leave the custom rom's alone haha.
BTW how did you fix the brick form flashing a custom rom on MK2 ? I'm on the good MDL firmware so not sure how others fixed the MK2 brick
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No problem just hit the thank button
I'd root and just leave it stock the rest of the way. With battery life it's always YMMV. The battery stats given in the setting menu don't tell you much so apps like wakelock detector or Greenify allow you to stop apps from "waking" the device all the time to either push notifications, sysnc, do whatever crap they do in the background. You could also get something called better battery stats, the app in on xda just google it, and let it run from full charge to dead and then take some screenshots of partial wake locks, how often CPU is in deep sleep etc and others can help sort some out.
Just root with Kingo as its easy and leave the custom rom's alone haha.
BTW how did you fix the brick form flashing a custom rom on MK2 ? I'm on the good MDL firmware so not sure how others fixed the MK2 brick
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Well after about a zillion tries on Google I finally found where someone got out of soft brick. It was something like hold down volume down, home, and power buttons until two options come up after you first power on the device. They are like "proceed to recovery mode" or "boot regularly" (something close to those anyways) and then you hit the volume down key to select boot regular and it boots up the phone without seeing that Oden screen. I was so relieved, I had already BSed my chat with a Samsung rep so they probably would have fixed it do to "accidental" downloads caused my phone to brick.
Watch out having your brightness to 100%. My statusbar got burnt into my phone. Just be careful. I can see the clock numbers(blurry) as well as battery and such. It sucks.
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toxicpaulution said:
Watch out having your brightness to 100%. My statusbar got burnt into my phone. Just be careful. I can see the clock numbers(blurry) as well as battery and such. It sucks.
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Thanks for the heads up.
toxicpaulution said:
Watch out having your brightness to 100%. My statusbar got burnt into my phone. Just be careful. I can see the clock numbers(blurry) as well as battery and such. It sucks.
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Reminds me of my cappy having screen burn in on that old amoled. Good heads up
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Reminds me of my cappy having screen burn in on that old amoled. Good heads up
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Yeah I just wish I would have been warned as well, now I just keep my status bar off. It's not directly noticeable if I don't look at it but it's still there.
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So I've been one of those suffering from "not-the-best" battery life... on average I get about 2 to 2.5 hours of SOT and a total battery life of about 12 hours. This after disabling pretty much every single notification, setting auto brightness with 70%, using high accuracy GPS, doing a lot of photography, moderate amount of surfing/web video watching, very little texting and no gaming. I I go hard and use it a lot more than usual, I'll get 7-8 hours of battery life.
My question though is, I looked under Android System right now and with 7h52m of usage, I have a GPS on time of 3h26m. I haven't used maps but have used facebook, flickr, and instagram.... isn't that high? Or is that normal for the high accuracy mode?
Assuming you have rooted, download App Ops and disable the GPS app's ability to keep the phone awake.
I'm not sure where to check, to look at my GPS time with a Verizon model?
But, just to mention the simple stuff, you could change to Networks Only, if approximate locations were sufficient.
Go to App drawer > Google Settings > Location > Mode > Battery Saving.
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Go to App drawer > Google Settings > Location > Mode > Battery Saving.
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But does that hinder the quality of my signal strength when I am in MAPS actively?
I'm rooted, I use tasker and secure settings to turn GPS on only when I'm using certain apps like maps.
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So I've been one of those suffering from "not-the-best" battery life... on average I get about 2 to 2.5 hours of SOT and a total battery life of about 12 hours. This after disabling pretty much every single notification, setting auto brightness with 70%, using high accuracy GPS, doing a lot of photography, moderate amount of surfing/web video watching, very little texting and no gaming. I I go hard and use it a lot more than usual, I'll get 7-8 hours of battery life.
My question though is, I looked under Android System right now and with 7h52m of usage, I have a GPS on time of 3h26m. I haven't used maps but have used facebook, flickr, and instagram.... isn't that high? Or is that normal for the high accuracy mode?
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Welcome to the 100th time this has been brought up..
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And the thousandth time someone's chosen to spend time responding in the least helpful manner.
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And the thousandth time someone's chosen to spend time responding in the least helpful manner.
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Really! Might as well not even bother to type anything! Did some people not get taught that if you have nothing nice to say then don't say anything at all??? If the thread has been answered or asked several times than why even look at the thread?
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Really! Might as well not even bother to type anything! Did some people not get taught that if you have nothing nice to say then don't say anything at all??? If the thread has been answered or asked several times than why even look at the thread?
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Huh? Wait, I was responding to someone who choose to be snarky. I had a day specific question... With high accuracy on, is half that time with GPS awake normal. Which has not been answered.
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But does that hinder the quality of my signal strength when I am in MAPS actively?
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Yes, it becomes less accurate, and is not suitable for use with navigation/maps.
Rightly or wrongly, I leave Location set to Networks Only (battery saving), unless I'm using the phone for navigation. Then I change it to GPS Only, or maybe High Accuracy.
I made a shortcut to Location on my home screen, to make this process quicker. It sounds like, with root, this switching back and forth can be automated.
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Huh? Wait, I was responding to someone who choose to be snarky. I had a day specific question... With high accuracy on, is half that time with GPS awake normal. Which has not been answered.
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I know, and I was just letting you know that I understand where u are coming from! Anyways, ever since I have rooted too, I am getting my GPS staying on for long periods of time when I'm not using it. I have just turned it off until I figure what's causing it. I'm sure it's just a rogue app that has to be deleted or else I froze something with Titanium Backup that's causing the issue. Anyways, i will report back if I find out exactly what it was.
I always leave mine on high accuracy. It should have little effect on the battery. If it's causing a high drain, there's something not quite right.
As stated above, you could use Tasker to disable it and turn it on when running maps etc.
I would also like to know whats causing this. It has happened all the time I have owned the phone. So root or not does not make a difference. Also mine is non carrier 815 eur model so carrier bloat is not the culprint. I have already taken location permission off from most of the apps but no use. So if anyone knows the solution or how to find the toque app I would really really appreciate if you told about it.
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I would also like to know whats causing this. It has happened all the time I have owned the phone. So root or not does not make a difference. Also mine is non carrier 815 eur model so carrier bloat is not the culprint. I have already taken location permission off from most of the apps but no use. So if anyone knows the solution or how to find the toque app I would really really appreciate if you told about it.
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Install Better Battery Stats.
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Install Better Battery Stats.
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Done, but is there a way to see what uses gps?
EDIT: Never mind. Found a way to find out what uses GPS using App ops. It seems it was Google search app. Dont know how or why but seems like something had enabled location history even thought I remember disabling it from the settings. Lets see does the GPS/battery use drop significantly.
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So I already disabled location history many weeks ago. So I have no freakin' clue why my battery sheds so fast...
btw I am on VZW.
Try what I did if you are rooted use App ops to find out what has asked for your location. Mine was of course first Android system etc but after that it said Google Search app. Mine seems at least better now. Not perfect but much better.
And actually even if you are not rooted you can use the built in permission manager.
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So I would like this tip to be there for as many people as possible and not let it get lost in some thread. Already got some great feedback from other who tried this too.
I do not have any feedback yet from snapdragon users, so results could be different there
In settings ==> apps==> show system apps.
Disable and then enable the following:
- Google Services Framework
- Google play store
- Google Play services (here, only wipe all data en cache).
After you enabled it, these services will update themselves again in a few minutes. But with one big change: a great standby battery usage!
UPDATE!
So it seems I had forgotten some other settings that I changed also, until I read someone else his post. So for here some additional steps:
- privacy -> location -> increase precision: set wifi en bluetooth off
- privacy -> location> location history: remove location history, and turn all other devices other then THIS DEVICE, to off.
After doing all steps, do a restart. Just to be sure .
Let me know if it helped you too
Just did it, will report back with results
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What i did last night was disable it that 3 and go to bed and charge the phone and this morning i turn in the 4G to go to work , and what i notice was the battery last i bit more , i notice the difference.
But as we know we can live without google services.
Now i see google services is one of the problem.
The standby only at night i can tell something.
Already losing only 2% battery overnight on wifi lol
How do I wipe the cache here? Also no option to disable or even stop here.
Nevermind I figured it out.
Unfortunately, this didn't help me. I'm still losing ~2% / hour, even overnight on WiFi.
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Unfortunately, this didn't help me. I'm still losing ~2% / hour, even overnight on WiFi.
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This will not help, I don't know who can believe this stuff.
It worked for one day...after a day the drain come back and still eating my battery!
Maidenx said:
It worked for one day...after a day the drain come back and still eating my battery!
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Did you enable Google backup? Just trying to find out why it works. It's the only thing I have disabled while using this trick.
I have had Google backup disabled prior. Battery life still miserable. Did this trick seeing how it works.
This is where I am at now. I don't think this solution had any impact on my battery life. I was able to achieve these kinds of stats day one of the upgrade on tmobile with APG1 FIRMWARE. prior to that update less than 4 hours SOT. Where I'm at now isn't terrible, but it certainly could be better
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This is where I am at now. I don't think this solution had any impact on my battery life. I was able to achieve these kinds of stats day one of the upgrade on tmobile with APG1 FIRMWARE. prior to that update less than 4 hours SOT. Where I'm at now isn't terrible, but it certainly could be better
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well this is a great SOT for a mix usage..... I will test this method tonight and I will comeback tomorrow with the solution I used for the past week.
avatar_ro said:
well this is a great SOT for a mix usage..... I will test this method tonight and I will comeback tomorrow with the solution I used for the past week.
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You're saying my stats are great? I have GPS toggled off and Google back up disabled. I think battery life largely depends on what you're doing. Seems like you get much more life out of watching YouTube versus texting, or something similar. Also, no wifi usage today.
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You're saying my stats are great? I have GPS toggled off and Google back up disabled. I think battery life largely depends on what you're doing. Seems like you get much more life out of watching YouTube versus texting, or something similar. Also, no wifi usage today.
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you have the snapdragon right?
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you have the snapdragon right?
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Yeah, I do unfortunately.
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Yeah, I do unfortunately.
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sad indeed... try this for a change.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67638646&postcount=146
report there if you saw some improvement, for me doing that stuff really changed everything and keep in mind that I have everything enabled.
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sad indeed... try this for a change.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67638646&postcount=146
report there if you saw some improvement, for me doing that stuff really changed everything and keep in mind that I have everything enabled.
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I'm assuming you're referencing the WiFi glitch you noted on your device? In that case I generally don't use wifi much. Even when I'm at home I just never think to turn it on. I'm a nurse, so at work I'm moving around and jumping from modem to modem, plus all lines are monitored and I just feel uncomfortable with that. There is one unsecured connection which happens to be where my office is located, but like I said I bounce around at work a lot.
While I never thought I would see the day that I was able to achieve 6 hours SOT, somehow I did. I'm attributing it mostly to the most recent Tmobile update although I did follow the instructions in this video, but based upon previous usage drain prior to applying this method, it seems to be on par.
Granted I do have location services turned off as well as Google back up, which has not been of any help historically. So with that being said I am finally pleased with the battery life I managed to achieved. However I will continue to monitor it as battery drain on this phone just seems so day to day.
nevermind. Happy it helped
Hey Everyone,
Can someone please tell me what's draining my battery? I used 32% of battery and didnt even get 2 hours of SOT. I do see that my connection is bad.. (at work right now on the 11th FL). I did turn on airplane mode but it seems like the mobile radio wont turn off? Anyone else facing the same issues?
Currently on stock OOS 4.5.14 Kernel- Simplegx Kernel
I don't know. I'm on stock 4.5.14 and stock kernel. I am getting about 9-12 hours of SOT and .3-.6% idle drain for a combined drain average of about 2.2-4.5% an hour depending on medium to heavy use. I don't do anything to crazy with my setup. I just turn off my google account sync unless i add a contact or something then i manually sync them, turn off background data for each app that has no need for background data usage. Work email is on push and personal email is set to fetch every 3 hours.
Seems you're not alone, my 4G+ isnt' great, never seems to connect in the same places my old phone did, and even when it does its nowhere near as fast.
Data is sub-par compared to other devices, it's that simple i've been through every single setting, nothing can change it.
I don't know ow either. I have my OnePlus 5 since a few weeks ago and so far its battery is showing being the best I've ever used till now (I upgraded from a G4+).
I usually get 7-8 hours of SoT with medium usage:
- WhatsApp
- Phoenix (Facebook/Messenger)
- YouTube
- Some gaming (Free Fire Battlegrounds)
- WiFi + 4G+ (switching between them depending on where I am).
I leave home early on morning with full charge and get back with about 30% left.
About the 4G+, it's showing really good here, nothing to complain about it.
Eric214 said:
I don't know. I'm on stock 4.5.14 and stock kernel. I am getting about 9-12 hours of SOT and .3-.6% idle drain for a combined drain average of about 2.2-4.5% an hour depending on medium to heavy use. I don't do anything to crazy with my setup. I just turn off my google account sync unless i add a contact or something then i manually sync them, turn off background data for each app that has no need for background data usage. Work email is on push and personal email is set to fetch every 3 hours.
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Show screenshots please. Also what carrier are you with?
dladz said:
Seems you're not alone, my 4G+ isnt' great, never seems to connect in the same places my old phone did, and even when it does its nowhere near as fast.
Data is sub-par compared to other devices, it's that simple i've been through every single setting, nothing can change it.
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right.. and the damn phone radio is ALWAYS active. Even in airplane mode it wont turn off. It's frustrating. I'm trying to locate what is really eating my battery and i dont have a clue.
Dex5er said:
I don't know ow either. I have my OnePlus 5 since a few weeks ago and so far its battery is showing being the best I've ever used till now (I upgraded from a G4+).
I usually get 7-8 hours of SoT with medium usage:
- WhatsApp
- Phoenix (Facebook/Messenger)
- YouTube
- Some gaming (Free Fire Battlegrounds)
- WiFi + 4G+ (switching between them depending on where I am).
I leave home early on morning with full charge and get back with about 30% left.
About the 4G+, it's showing really good here, nothing to complain about it.
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Screenschots please
Dchoi229 said:
Screenschots please
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This was one of my lasts batt usage status. It isn't that good cuz I had some more usage on that day, but I've got best scores
Dchoi229 said:
right.. and the damn phone radio is ALWAYS active. Even in airplane mode it wont turn off. It's frustrating. I'm trying to locate what is really eating my battery and i dont have a clue.
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Are you sure? How do you know? Could that be the settings Mobile Data always on? Or maybe allowing google to scan for networks, allowing apps to use data without permission? Not 100% if it's the phone.
Thinking about that, what if you are actually on a plane lol
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This was one of my lasts batt usage status. It isn't that good cuz I had some more usage on that day, but I've got best scores
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Seems average at best. I'm using only a single sim and I don't have SOT like that.
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Are you sure? How do you know? Could that be the settings Mobile Data always on? Or maybe allowing google to scan for networks, allowing apps to use data without permission? Not 100% if it's the phone.
Thinking about that, what if you are actually on a plane lol
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Lol my battery stats say so... and airplane mode is SUPPOSED to shut off mobile data but the radio is still active. It never turns off for me. Idk bro I'm using Gsam to find the stats but I cant find whats going on. Can you take a closer look for me?
Dchoi229 said:
Seems average at best. I'm using only a single sim and I don't have SOT like that.
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Are you using beta or stock? Tried wiping cache? I've seen some reports that after a while cache the battery showed very good.
Dex5er said:
Are you using beta or stock? Tried wiping cache? I've seen some reports that after a while cache the battery showed very good.
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stock. Inerased cache multiple times. I'm going to reflash OOS and lightning kernel. Hopefully a factory reset will help.
Dchoi229 said:
Show screenshots please. Also what carrier are you with?
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I'm with T-Mobile.
Eric214 said:
I'm with T-Mobile.
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I can't see your screenshots. I'm dying to know your stats because I'm with T-mobile as well. Would you mind re-uploading them?
Dchoi229 said:
Lol my battery stats say so... and airplane mode is SUPPOSED to shut off mobile data but the radio is still active. It never turns off for me. Idk bro I'm using Gsam to find the stats but I cant find whats going on. Can you take a closer look for me?
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Sure, post some screen shots from: Settings/battery. Click the graph for detailed and non detailed.
Post gsam too.
dladz said:
Sure, post some screen shots from: Settings/battery. Click the graph for detailed and non detailed.
Post gsam too.
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Attached are the screenshots. Thanks for helping!
Eric214 said:
I'm with T-Mobile.
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Nvm I see it now. It seems like u probably used ur phone non stop. im talking about reg use. maybe our usage is different but I usually just surf insta,send a couple of snaps,clash royale, & chrome.
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Attached are the screenshots. Thanks for helping!
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Cant see them, will check when I get home.
dladz said:
Cant see them, will check when I get home.
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**** i realized i dont have my previous cycle. i'll upload gsam and my reg battery stats tommorow. Sorry for the hassle. Im currently on oos with lighting kernel. I'm tryna see the best kernel for battery.
Aware of the current discussion around the LTE drain issues with the Exynos version of the phone. Yesterday I did a full 24 hours off charge on exclusively mobile data and lost around 65% for 80 minutes SOT.
Before taking it back to Samsung I wanted to confirm that there wasn't anything else causing the drain . I'm no expert with battery historian but I can't highlight the causes beyond the following:
Screen off uptime: 3hrs 27 mins
Kernel Wakelocks: 5hrs 32 mins
CPU Usage: 2:32 of user time vs 5:14 of 'system time'
Kernel Overhead 1:45
"999:MAILBOX_CP2AP" - I suspect this is linked to outlook but can't be sure, causing 150 wakelocks an hour
"Abort:Some devices failed to suspend, or early wake event detected" - No idea what this is
Would anyone be able to provide any more information or assistance in analysing the chart?
Thanks in advance
Try to change outlook. My experience is that outlook was making battery drain crazy, remove it and got other phone.
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Have you tried these tests from a fresh install with no other apps installed? Have you tried this in airplane mode also.?
What was the test results using just wifi?
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Have you tried these tests from a fresh install with no other apps installed? Have you tried this in airplane mode also.?
What was the test results using just wifi?
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Haven't and wont have an opportunity to do a fresh install for a while, need to do a day on wifi to compare the results.
I did spend a bit of time on wifi and adaptive power saving and it all but wiped out the "999" wakelock (I think this is because the system more aggressively bins the wakelocks "
Will also try safe mode/ removing outlook to see what happens
I'm having the exactly same issue of yours! 999:MAILBOX_CP2AP is appearing crazily! Do you found any solution yet? My phone don't have outlook installed, but the wakelock still going on crazily.. It seems only appearing actively during mobile data is turned on.
My battery has been doing great for me using LTE all day
kevinireland11 said:
My battery has been doing great for me using LTE all day
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Are you exynos or sd
exeon said:
I'm having the exactly same issue of yours! 999:MAILBOX_CP2AP is appearing crazily! Do you found any solution yet? My phone don't have outlook installed, but the wakelock still going on crazily.. It seems only appearing actively during mobile data is turned on.
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I'm glad it's not just me! There is nothing on the internet about it either.
Will try staying in safe mode when I have the time
mtm1401 said:
I'm glad it's not just me! There is nothing on the internet about it either.
Will try staying in safe mode when I have the time
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What outlook are you using? Is this the outlook from the play store or is it corporate setup outlook mail using some sort of exchange servers for synching?
I have since my note 9 disabled the stock Samsung email app and use only outlook. Since the stock email app for me was causing drain.
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Limeybastard said:
What outlook are you using? Is this the outlook from the play store or is it corporate setup outlook mail using some sort of exchange servers for synching?
I have since my note 9 disabled the stock Samsung email app and use only outlook. Since the stock email app for me was causing drain.
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Play store outlook. I've removed gmail and stock app with adhell
mtm1401 said:
Play store outlook. I've removed gmail and stock app with adhell
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Strange. That's the only app I use for multiple email accounts that seems to be less resource hungry. I still have gmail all though.
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Limeybastard said:
Strange. That's the only app I use for multiple email accounts that seems to be less resource hungry. I still have gmail all though.
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I deleted outlook and the wakelock persisted, so it's not that, but I don't have another mail app so very confused.
The 999:mailbox wakelock still appears when on wifi but its negligible compared to when on LTE
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I deleted outlook and the wakelock persisted, so it's not that, but I don't have another mail app so very confused.
The 999:mailbox wakelock still appears when on wifi but its negligible compared to when on LTE
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Googling that process didnt yield much success.
I use accubattery pro and gsam. I tried to locate and install battery historian but couldn't find it. Maybe its for exynos only that app?
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Googling that process didnt yield much success.
I use accubattery pro and gsam. I tried to locate and install battery historian but couldn't find it. Maybe its for exynos only that app?
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Unfortunately GSam and better battery stats currently don't work on exynos, I have accubattery but it doesn't offer much beyond basic battery stats
Battery historian uses the bug report that you can produce in developer options
https://redd.it/5b4yeo
mtm1401 said:
I'm glad it's not just me! There is nothing on the internet about it either.
Will try staying in safe mode when I have the time
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Hmm I tried safe mode, even hard reset OS by sending to service center for them to do that for me, still same.
Although my battery life doesn't consider that awful but not satisfying. I started to doubt whether it's some hardware related issue.
exeon said:
Hmm I tried safe mode, even hard reset OS by sending to service center for them to do that for me, still same.
Although my battery life doesn't consider that awful but not satisfying. I started to doubt whether it's some hardware related issue.
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And the wakelock persisted throughout? It might be nothing but the only difference I can see between wifi vs LTE
It's so good for battery on wifi but middling when on mobile data
mtm1401 said:
And the wakelock persisted throughout? It might be nothing but the only difference I can see between wifi vs LTE
It's so good for battery on wifi but middling when on mobile data
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Over a 50% battery usage period I get approx one or so less hours sot using LTE. If that makes sense. View attachment 4768566View attachment 4768567
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I'm Exynos, dual SIM, I am an area manager and phone is my main work tool doing audits on them all say. Both Sims work overtime as I'm mobile all day in remote areas, the screen is an auto as I work outside and need full brightness and I use WQHD. Only thing i turn off is aod and I've done the stuff in the battery optimisation thread
I charge in the evening and get 24 hours on the battery , average is 7 hrs sot and 2 hours talk time
This is perfect for me
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I'm Exynos, dual SIM, I am an area manager and phone is my main work tool doing audits on them all say. Both Sims work overtime as I'm mobile all day in remote areas, the screen is an auto as I work outside and need full brightness and I use WQHD. Only thing i turn off is aod and I've done the stuff in the battery optimisation thread
I charge in the evening and get 24 hours on the battery , average is 7 hrs sot and 2 hours talk time
This is perfect for me
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That sounds amazing!
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Davey Dual Sim said:
I'm Exynos, dual SIM, I am an area manager and phone is my main work tool doing audits on them all say. Both Sims work overtime as I'm mobile all day in remote areas, the screen is an auto as I work outside and need full brightness and I use WQHD. Only thing i turn off is aod and I've done the stuff in the battery optimisation thread
I charge in the evening and get 24 hours on the battery , average is 7 hrs sot and 2 hours talk time
This is perfect for me
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Did you play around with your settings?