So, I got a Galaxy S4 back at the beginning of December, and the battery life has just been awful since I got it. I'm talking 5 hours max.. of juice. Its bugging me because I have tried so many different options and nothing makes it last any longer. One time I got 8 hours and I was like planning on throwing a parade because it was so groundbreaking for my GS4.
Here's what I normally have going on:
Admittedly I use my phone quite a bit and it's always on full brightness because hey its a $600 1080p phone so I want to be able to use it to its full potential.
I do not have one game installed. Never been a huge fan of mobile gaming.
I usually have a 4-5 bar 4G signal and barely use my wifi because it's like 300kb/s down.. And really spotty.
I may listen to 30 minutes of music a day.
Most of the time I'm on twitter and looking up stuff on Chrome.
This is not a battery issue I do not believe because my brother got the same phone and he has had similar issues. My brother uses his phone maybe half the time I do, so I doubt it is my usage that is bringing it down. I seriously do not want to have to contact Samsung for them to tell me it probably has water damage and then ask me to wait 2 weeks to get my phone back. My phone does tend to get warm from time to time but I've seen multiple reports of that. My iPhone 4 that I upgraded got 8 or 9 hours of battery life on similar use. (Android rocks)
So what is the problem?
P. S. my phone ran down 8% while typing this.
Kwwolves2012 said:
So, I got a Galaxy S4 back at the beginning of December, and the battery life has just been awful since I got it. I'm talking 5 hours max.. of juice. Its bugging me because I have tried so many different options and nothing makes it last any longer. One time I got 8 hours and I was like planning on throwing a parade because it was so groundbreaking for my GS4.
Here's what I normally have going on:
Admittedly I use my phone quite a bit and it's always on full brightness because hey its a $600 1080p phone so I want to be able to use it to its full potential.
I do not have one game installed. Never been a huge fan of mobile gaming.
I usually have a 4-5 bar 4G signal and barely use my wifi because it's like 300kb/s down.. And really spotty.
I may listen to 30 minutes of music a day.
Most of the time I'm on twitter and looking up stuff on Chrome.
This is not a battery issue I do not believe because my brother got the same phone and he has had similar issues. My brother uses his phone maybe half the time I do, so I doubt it is my usage that is bringing it down. I seriously do not want to have to contact Samsung for them to tell me it probably has water damage and then ask me to wait 2 weeks to get my phone back. My phone does tend to get warm from time to time but I've seen multiple reports of that. My iPhone 4 that I upgraded got 8 or 9 hours of battery life on similar use. (Android rocks)
So what is the problem?
P. S. my phone ran down 8% while typing this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you running a custom or stock rom? And are you rooted?
Look at your battery usage in settings. Screen should be number 1. What's after that? Get betterbatterystats and see where your wake locks are. Without some additional info it's hard to help you
nerdyblonde said:
Are you running a custom or stock rom? And are you rooted?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No I am not rooted anymore. My phone had a locked bootloader so I just uninstalled some bloatware and unrooted. I have had the problems since I got it.
Android 4.3
AT&T i337
MK2 Firmware
jd1639 said:
Look at your battery usage in settings. Screen should be number 1. What's after that? Get betterbatterystats and see where your wake locks are. Without some additional info it's hard to help you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It depends on what I am using the most. Most of the time its below 10% of total battery use. I would say it is mostly Chrome at 4-8%.
Right now it has been on for 37 minutes and is at 85% battery.
84% screen
7% Chrome
Kwwolves2012 said:
It depends on what I am using the most. Most of the time its below 10% of total battery use. I would say it is mostly Chrome at 4-8%.
Right now it has been on for 37 minutes and is at 85% battery.
84% screen
7% Chrome
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so under battery usage it's just screen and chrome usually ? (iId dump chrome to begin with anyway)
Is GPS on ? Any other apps that would be constantly syncing like facebook, twitter, etc ?
hednik said:
so under battery usage it's just screen and chrome usually ? (iId dump chrome to begin with anyway)
Is GPS on ? Any other apps that would be constantly syncing like facebook, twitter, etc ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, normally screen and chrome are the biggest consumers but I do use a few more apps. I've been wanting a Chrome alternative, but nothing I've tried has been as efficient.
I do use Twitter and Facebook(rarely), but at the same time, my brother doesn't use any social media and his battery isn't much better.
Kwwolves2012 said:
Yes, normally screen and chrome are the biggest consumers but I do use a few more apps. I've been wanting a Chrome alternative, but nothing I've tried has been as efficient.
I do use Twitter and Facebook(rarely), but at the same time, my brother doesn't use any social media and his battery isn't much better.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The biggest user of battery would be the screen, LTE, and GPS or location based processes. Honestly LTE that doesn't use much unless you are streaming all the time. Something isn't letting you phone go to sleep and if you can root I would just do it to be able to use an app like greenify or another wakelock killer that lets you keep apps from keeping you phone awake. Also turning off sync in general helps i.e making you refresh stuff manually.
hednik said:
The biggest user of battery would be the screen, LTE, and GPS or location based processes. Honestly LTE that doesn't use much unless you are streaming all the time. Something isn't letting you phone go to sleep and if you can root I would just do it to be able to use an app like greenify or another wakelock killer that lets you keep apps from keeping you phone awake. Also turning off sync in general helps i.e making you refresh stuff manually.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for your help so by the way. I always have gps off and I only get regular 4G in my area. I will check with Facebook and try to turn off automatic syncing. Rooting is an option, last time I went through kingo and did it just fine until I tried to flash Cm over my locked bootloader *facepalm* Haha. I haven't heard anything definitive on the downside of using that tool. It was very simple. Would you suggest me going that route for Greenway?
Kwwolves2012 said:
Thanks for your help so by the way. I always have gps off and I only get regular 4G in my area. I will check with Facebook and try to turn off automatic syncing. Rooting is an option, last time I went through kingo and did it just fine until I tried to flash Cm over my locked bootloader *facepalm* Haha. I haven't heard anything definitive on the downside of using that tool. It was very simple. Would you suggest me going that route for Greenway?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No problem just hit the thank button
I'd root and just leave it stock the rest of the way. With battery life it's always YMMV. The battery stats given in the setting menu don't tell you much so apps like wakelock detector or Greenify allow you to stop apps from "waking" the device all the time to either push notifications, sysnc, do whatever crap they do in the background. You could also get something called better battery stats, the app in on xda just google it, and let it run from full charge to dead and then take some screenshots of partial wake locks, how often CPU is in deep sleep etc and others can help sort some out.
Just root with Kingo as its easy and leave the custom rom's alone haha.
BTW how did you fix the brick form flashing a custom rom on MK2 ? I'm on the good MDL firmware so not sure how others fixed the MK2 brick
hednik said:
No problem just hit the thank button
I'd root and just leave it stock the rest of the way. With battery life it's always YMMV. The battery stats given in the setting menu don't tell you much so apps like wakelock detector or Greenify allow you to stop apps from "waking" the device all the time to either push notifications, sysnc, do whatever crap they do in the background. You could also get something called better battery stats, the app in on xda just google it, and let it run from full charge to dead and then take some screenshots of partial wake locks, how often CPU is in deep sleep etc and others can help sort some out.
Just root with Kingo as its easy and leave the custom rom's alone haha.
BTW how did you fix the brick form flashing a custom rom on MK2 ? I'm on the good MDL firmware so not sure how others fixed the MK2 brick
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well after about a zillion tries on Google I finally found where someone got out of soft brick. It was something like hold down volume down, home, and power buttons until two options come up after you first power on the device. They are like "proceed to recovery mode" or "boot regularly" (something close to those anyways) and then you hit the volume down key to select boot regular and it boots up the phone without seeing that Oden screen. I was so relieved, I had already BSed my chat with a Samsung rep so they probably would have fixed it do to "accidental" downloads caused my phone to brick.
Watch out having your brightness to 100%. My statusbar got burnt into my phone. Just be careful. I can see the clock numbers(blurry) as well as battery and such. It sucks.
Sent from my SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
toxicpaulution said:
Watch out having your brightness to 100%. My statusbar got burnt into my phone. Just be careful. I can see the clock numbers(blurry) as well as battery and such. It sucks.
Sent from my SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the heads up.
toxicpaulution said:
Watch out having your brightness to 100%. My statusbar got burnt into my phone. Just be careful. I can see the clock numbers(blurry) as well as battery and such. It sucks.
Sent from my SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Reminds me of my cappy having screen burn in on that old amoled. Good heads up
Sent from my SGH-I337 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
hednik said:
Reminds me of my cappy having screen burn in on that old amoled. Good heads up
Sent from my SGH-I337 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I just wish I would have been warned as well, now I just keep my status bar off. It's not directly noticeable if I don't look at it but it's still there.
Sent from my SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
Related
Just wanted to throw this out there and see if anyone happens to be getting a lot of partial wakelocks without screen on or if your overall battery life has decreased since installing the 4.1.1 OTA. When I first purchased the phone, I had very very few incidents under my battery info where I would have a session awake without the screen on. Post update, seems like I've got a ton of really small wakes with no screen activity. I have turned off Google Now and every GPS/Location setting I could find. Downloaded Better Battery Stats today so I'm going to see if I can get some better info on what's going on, new to the program though and I don't understand most of the info that it reads.
Prior to the update, letting my phone sit overnight I would maybe see a 3 or 4% drop over the course of say six or seven hours. Now I'm seeing a 3 to 4% drop in battery per hour, more if I'm actively using the phone. I'm going to do more testing, specifically overnight to see how it fairs. Just wanted to throw this out there and see if anyone else is experiencing any of these issues.
:good: -Matt
I am noticing the same thing. Don't know the cause. Keep sync off all day.
Sent from my Sony Tablet S using xda premium
Im getting the fast dormancy symptom again... no matter what i tried I cant fix it... always connecting as HSPDA+ even if im not using......anyone got any ideas?
Hmm, might try a factory reset and not installing any apps at all and seeing how it fairs. By chance, do you guys have any of the stock bloatware apps disabled? Not rooted/Frozen, but just disabled via the apps menu? Wondering if perhaps disabling any of them might be a trigger.
-Matt
sombody said:
Im getting the fast dormancy symptom again... no matter what i tried I cant fix it... always connecting as HSPDA+ even if im not using......anyone got any ideas?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
for me freezing modem fast dormancy monitor and modem stats service appears to fix fast dormancy
Yes I am noticing it to. I disabled Google now and it got a bit better.
Sent from my XT907 using xda premium
Roflwafflez said:
Prior to the update, letting my phone sit overnight I would maybe see a 3 or 4% drop over the course of say six or seven hours. Now I'm seeing a 3 to 4% drop in battery per hour, more if I'm actively using the phone. I'm going to do more testing, specifically overnight to see how it fairs. Just wanted to throw this out there and see if anyone else is experiencing any of these issues.
:good: -Matt
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea i'm getting that. I'm using 13% overnight now vs like 4% before. Not sure about the wakelocks though.
Some random things I've noticed are the blur widget resets itself alot. And the transition to the settings window on the left is laggy. How would one revert back to ICS? Google Now is not that worth it to me and the phone was smooth enough before. I'd take the battery life over the new features.
I did buy a second Razr M for my girlfriend that's still on ICS. I guess I can do a side by side compare this weekend.
I am loving the update.. only issue so far is fire fox crashing..no battery issues. Must be settings guys..
sent via xda premium with nexus 7-Xbox live-loneleppard add me
i don't think it is setting i have all my syncs to manual, and i have been noticing a lot worse battery life since the update i would have 18+ hours or so off charger with pretty heavy texting / game / some voice calls. Now i'm not getting close to that. I just disabled the fast dormancy service to see if that helps any, ill post back results
Just did a factory reset today, I'm not going to disable any of the bloatware this time, and I only installed BetterBatteryStats as well as updated all the default apps in the Play Store. Going to see if I get any wakelocks this time around.
Last night, after a period of 6 hours, I had over an hours worth of partial wakelocks from AlarmManager (subheading Phone).
-Matt :good:
I disabled Google Now and my phone used 7% battery over 6 and a half hours. A little bit better.
A factory reset (annoying as it is) helped me considerably. My phone was also seriously laggy before the reset...slow like my old DX on GB, much worse than factory ICS. It finally feels smooth now, like JB should.
Still seeing a lot more wakelocks than on ICS, but it doesn't seem to be draining the battery like it was before the reset. I also removed or disabled a couple of apps that seemed to be serious offenders (Accuweather was one).
Did a reset on mine as well and did not restore from Google backup. Still seeing wakelocks, but as someone noted earlier they don't seem to be draining the battery too much. With that said, the battery does still seem to tick down much faster than on ICS. One thing I did find that helped, although honestly it's not really a solution, is turning off data use when I'm out and about just answering texts and such. If I have data/wifi disabled, I'm getting closer to the battery life that ICS was giving, but then again who wants to go around having to toggle data on and off every time you want to look something up.
-Matt
Is maps showing up on your battery stats and you're not using it? If so, simply open the application. It should say "updated to the latest version" or something like that. If this is happening, this will solve your battery problems.
Happened on my Galaxy Nexus and was happening initially for this phone too. Hope this helps someone.
Modem Fast Dormancy Monitor Service Not Responding.
Me and my wife both updated to KitKat on our Razr M's. I like it so far. The pop up about modem fast dormancy bothers both of use. When you look under battery, it uses more battery than other apps. I force stop it, reboot and it comes right back. A chat on Motorola web site sugested to wipe partition cache. The link that was provide gives the wrong instructions. KitKat using the power and volume keys has changed. They forgot to tell some people. That didn't work! I sent a long email to Motorola telling them that someone messed up or they did this for a reason! I guess if you get mad enough you'll just buy a newer phone. If that one thing is fixed, we would both be happy. The white background in text take some getting use to also. I hope Motorola will help us, but I kind of think Razr M's will be considered OLD! They are betting we will junk them for a new model.
notrite63 said:
Me and my wife both updated to KitKat on our Razr M's. I like it so far. The pop up about modem fast dormancy bothers both of use. When you look under battery, it uses more battery than other apps. I force stop it, reboot and it comes right back. A chat on Motorola web site sugested to wipe partition cache. The link that was provide gives the wrong instructions. KitKat using the power and volume keys has changed. They forgot to tell some people. That didn't work! I sent a long email to Motorola telling them that someone messed up or they did this for a reason! I guess if you get mad enough you'll just buy a newer phone. If that one thing is fixed, we would both be happy. The white background in text take some getting use to also. I hope Motorola will help us, but I kind of think Razr M's will be considered OLD! They are betting we will junk them for a new model.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
dude its a 2012 thread
about 4.1.1 (jellybean)
kitkat is 4.4.1 (or something)
thread is supose to be dead&buried
dead and buried
fredsky2 said:
dude its a 2012 thread
about 4.1.1 (jellybean)
kitkat is 4.4.1 (or something)
thread is supose to be dead&buried
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry! My bad. I didn't notice it was closed. Why do they not take old olds off line.
Hi there; this is my first post so please go easy on me.
Bought a Nexus 4 which is my first Android device, but the battery life is bugging the hell out of me. Surely the screen should always be at the top, right? I left it to sleep overnight on a full charge to find that it had shot down to 60% when I woke up at 7 this morning.
I haven't rooted or flashed or anything like that, because as I said, I'm an Android virgin. I have location settings off, only Gmail syncing and the usual push notifications here and there. Nothing too fancy or strenuous.
Any help on how I can go around fixing this? I'm a little afraid to rooting/flashing/ROMs etc, because I've no clue what works best.
Cheers!
If your saying you left the screen on over night, meaning the phone never went into deep sleep.. If you slept for let's say 6 hours and the phones screen was on for that whole time it's normal that it went down to sixty percent battery.
Maybe I'm understanding your post wrong? Btw I cannot see the picture you posted.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda app-developers app
Turn off mobile data and lower the screen brightness to 0 during the day. Also disable WiFi when you're sleeping. I also make sure all apps are closed using the app manager button on the far right.
Mine's been fine following this logic.
Oh sorry, I should meant sleeping overnight, whilst I slept cosily in my bed.
I'll reattach the image in a second
Ah, you won't be able to see any links till I've gone past 10 posts. Back in a bit then, ha.
atw1927 said:
Ah, you won't be able to see any links till I've gone past 10 posts. Back in a bit then, ha.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol I see it now.. try performing a reset, android shouldn't be that high.. are you rooted? custom rom/kernel?
Crisisx1 said:
lol I see it now.. try performing a reset, android shouldn't be that high.. are you rooted? custom rom/kernel?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is NOT the answer. His battery in the image has dropped 7%. If he hasn't used the screen much it is perfectly understandable that screen might not be a large percentage of that 7%. As he uses the phone more screen will use a larger percentage of his battery and Android OS will use less.
If he gets to the point where the screen is on for an hour or two and the percentages are still like this then yes there is a problem.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
joshnichols189 said:
This is NOT the answer. His battery in the image has dropped 7%. If he hasn't used the screen much it is perfectly understandable that screen might not be a large percentage of that 7%. As he uses the phone more screen will use a larger percentage of his battery and Android OS will use less.
If he gets to the point where the screen is on for an hour or two and the percentages are still like this then yes there is a problem.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My android system has never been that high, regardless if I used the phone for 10 minutes or 10 seconds , or not at all.
atw1927 said:
Hi there; this is my first post so please go easy on me.
Bought a Nexus 4 which is my first Android device, but the battery life is bugging the hell out of me. Surely the screen should always be at the top, right? I left it to sleep overnight on a full charge to find that it had shot down to 60% when I woke up at 7 this morning.
I haven't rooted or flashed or anything like that, because as I said, I'm an Android virgin. I have location settings off, only Gmail syncing and the usual push notifications here and there. Nothing too fancy or strenuous.
Any help on how I can go around fixing this? I'm a little afraid to rooting/flashing/ROMs etc, because I've no clue what works best.
Cheers!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually No the "Screen" should not always be at the top of the stat list. If you use the phone more than it idles, then yes... but if you are like me, mine says "Phone Idle: 20%" (which is on top) and "Screen" is 4th on the list with 12% (Wi-Fi and Cell standby above it) [this is my personal phone, and I mostly use my work phone. hence the high Idle & standby]
I was having an issue with my phone running out of battery, with very little usage from it. I mean very little, I might make 2 calls from it each day, and respond to an email now and then. I found that an App was preventing my Screen from going into "Deep Sleep" or even "Sleeping" possibly. So I uninstalled all apps (well I only had like 4 additional apps installed), except for 2 that I need (Google Voice & Drive). Powered off the phone, charged it fully, then powered back on. Its been running on the same charge for 24+hrs now and reads 68% battery remaining.
So check the apps you have installed, some use background data, and might be causing problems...
Crisisx1 said:
My android system has never been that high, regardless if I used the phone for 10 minutes or 10 seconds , or not at all.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And your phone is the definitive guide for what Android OS usage is? Maybe his phone woke up those services for a period of time longer than normal.
The answer of "lol looks wrong root and install kernel" is terrible advice when so little information is given.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
What else would you like to know?
atw1927 said:
What else would you like to know?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A longer battery graph would help a lot. If yuppy want top search XDA there is a free app called better battery stats that will help you diagnose if something is running in the background eating battery or even if your phone I'd properly entering deep sleep.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
Better Battery stats and battery screenshots here
atw1927 said:
Better Battery stats and battery screenshots here
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
See now it is much easier to see that you actually do have a problem and what it is. You have the wakelock problem as you can see from Better Battery Stats which falls under Android OS on the other screen. It also appears that you have somewhat weak signal which could cause the wakelock to drain battery even more. There's not much you can do about that wake lock, some kernels have patches for it but those have their own issues as well.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
Could I just install any kernel on stock android and be OK with it? As I've said I've no idea what's best for me; just something nice and clean that doesn't have issues like this. I live onsite where I work so my WiFi is pretty much on all the time if that helps in anyway whatsoever
I'm gonna let it run down completely tonight and charge it, but I don't expect it to help much.
joshnichols189 said:
And your phone is the definitive guide for what Android OS usage is? Maybe his phone woke up those services for a period of time longer than normal.
The answer of "lol looks wrong root and install kernel" is terrible advice when so little information is given.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I never told him to install a kernel. The advice I gave is to do a reset then I asked if he was rooted or running a custom rom or kernel because that might of been the problem.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda app-developers app
Bump
Fully charged overnight, battery still sinking like a ship. 45 minutes and I'm already down to 94% already!
Idiot question; will installing a kernel just solve this? For now as a new guy I'd like to keep it as stock as possible before fiddling with it.
atw1927 said:
Fully charged overnight, battery still sinking like a ship. 45 minutes and I'm already down to 94% already!
Idiot question; will installing a kernel just solve this? For now as a new guy I'd like to keep it as stock as possible before fiddling with it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The battery on the n4 seems horrible.
I'm completely stock I just got my phone yesterday, I charged it to 100% now its at 64% battery with only 47 minutes of screen on time.
on the s3 I would be around 83% with 47 minutes of screen on time.
I'm gonna unlock the boot loader and root soon and try Franco kernel I've been reading good things about it.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
The battery life on the stock kernel isn't great because the CPU management isn't optimized well. It ramps up the CPU (frequency, number of active cores...) very easily and keeps it there long, which removes the occasional lag but sucks more battery. Flashing a more battery friendly kernel would definitely help you if that is the root of your battery issues and not a badly coded app.
Franco's kernel is a very popular one, and very battery friendly compared to stock (and that doesn't mean you lose performance). It is the one I'm currently using. Most people report of screen on times of 4 or 5 hours. With not so heavy usage and wifi (not 3g) I can also pass 5 hrs.
To install a kernel you need to unlock your boot loader and install a custom recovery. No need to root, but.. why not since you're at it
You can try different kernels with the stock ROM. You don't necessarily need a custom ROM. Just be careful to read the dev's OP and instructions, and definitely not to flash a kernel for another device.
Also another thing that reduces battery is your mobile data, if there are a lot of programs that sync on the background. You can use a program that turns off your mobile data when your screen is off and switch it back on just for a sync every xx minutes. Juice Defender is such app, though I like to use Tasker for that. If you use Tasker and are interested in that project, ask or send me a pm. It works great.
Ive had a few questions when it comes to my trial with samsung devices and this is where my story starts..
So I have had a mirage of Samsung devices starting with the Note 2, to the Galaxy s4, and now currently the Note 3. I have put as much time and effort as my noob abilities will allow me to and I'm honestly trying to figure out a couple of things. Throughout all these devices in less than one year I have realized that I can only get my battery to supply modest results. I have torn through xda and have done almost every solution out there to in order to increase my battery life. With no impacting results I sit here truly wondering how is it that people can really get more than a day out of these phones. I have honestly never been able to get any of these phones to 5-6 hours screen on time and more than 24 hours off the charger. I evny the people that swear they are heavy users and still get great battery life, but I just dont see how this is possible from my experience...
I would say on a normal day i use the device moderatly and somewhat carefully as to retain the battery life to the fullest. I normally have my phone on WiFi for about half the day but I do browse and do a bit on LTE too. I use all kinds of social apps (twitter, instagram, fb, hangouts for sms, etc) that are all using push notifications. I have a university email that uses exchange and that is push as well. I stream all my music using Google play music daily but also a lot on WiFi. I search the web a lot and use flipboard constantly. I hardly use any games except at home when I know I have my charger. So one of my questions is, does this classify me as a heavy user comparing to all of you people?
I have tried almost everything.. Wake lock detector, turning off absolutely everything location based, app ops, power saver for when I'm at work (8+ hours), turning off all the smart features, low brightness, turning off bloat, etc. But still nothing too spectacular for results. Keep I'm mind I'm all stock and for now I dont really want to change that. So my main question after that long story is, am I missing something? Should I be getting better battery life after all these attempts? Is my battery life ok for how I use my phone? Are there any other options so I can be like the people getting monster battery life?
What made me write this post is because I was at BestBuy and one of the Samsung reps had the same Verizon note 3 that I have. I asked him if I could see his battery stats (which he did not know how to find.. Wow) and his phone had been on for over a day and had 7 hours of screen on time.. It blew me away that he was getting extraordinary battery life and obviously didnt do a thing to try to preserve it.
Keep in mind the battery stats posted are actually some of the best Ive had when it comes to screen on time so usually its dead after about 16 hrs and 3 hrs screen on time.
Sent from my SM-N900V using xda app-developers app
junior_mafioso said:
Ive had a few questions when it comes to my trial with samsung devices and this is where my story starts..
So I have had a mirage of Samsung devices starting with the Note 2, to the Galaxy s4, and now currently the Note 3. I have put as much time and effort as my noob abilities will allow me to and I'm honestly trying to figure out a couple of things. Throughout all these devices in less than one year I have realized that I can only get my battery to supply modest results. I have torn through xda and have done almost every solution out there to in order to increase my battery life. With no impacting results I sit here truly wondering how is it that people can really get more than a day out of these phones. I have honestly never been able to get any of these phones to 5-6 hours screen on time and more than 24 hours off the charger. I evny the people that swear they are heavy users and still get great battery life, but I just dont see how this is possible from my experience...
I would say on a normal day i use the device moderatly and somewhat carefully as to retain the battery life to the fullest. I normally have my phone on WiFi for about half the day but I do browse and do a bit on LTE too. I use all kinds of social apps (twitter, instagram, fb, hangouts for sms, etc) that are all using push notifications. I have a university email that uses exchange and that is push as well. I stream all my music using Google play music daily but also a lot on WiFi. I search the web a lot and use flipboard constantly. I hardly use any games except at home when I know I have my charger. So one of my questions is, does this classify me as a heavy user comparing to all of you people?
I have tried almost everything.. Wake lock detector, turning off absolutely everything location based, app ops, power saver for when I'm at work (8+ hours), turning off all the smart features, low brightness, turning off bloat, etc. But still nothing too spectacular for results. Keep I'm mind I'm all stock and for now I dont really want to change that. So my main question after that long story is, am I missing something? Should I be getting better battery life after all these attempts? Is my battery life ok for how I use my phone? Are there any other options so I can be like the people getting monster battery life?
What made me write this post is because I was at BestBuy and one of the Samsung reps had the same Verizon note 3 that I have. I asked him if I could see his battery stats (which he did not know how to find.. Wow) and his phone had been on for over a day and had 7 hours of screen on time.. It blew me away that he was getting extraordinary battery life and obviously didnt do a thing to try to preserve it.
Keep in mind the battery stats posted are actually some of the best Ive had when it comes to screen on time so usually its dead after about 16 hrs and 3 hrs screen on time.
Sent from my SM-N900V using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if your doing graphic intensive stuff on the internet it will destroy your battery. The fact your chrome used almost as much battery as your screen makes me believe there's something wrong there..
My chrome browsing basically just consists of normal web pages and some embedded videos on news and sports sites. Is that enough to cause that much damage?
Sent from my SM-N900V using xda app-developers app
It shouldn't. But just to be sure, whenever you're done using your phone at times you can go into task manager holding down the home button and click the clear memory button under the RAM tab. That will stop all processes from continuing to run when you're done using them
♢NoteIII♢
LeftyGR said:
It shouldn't. But just to be sure, whenever you're done using your phone at times you can go into task manager holding down the home button and click the clear memory button under the RAM tab. That will stop all processes from continuing to run when you're done using them
♢NoteIII♢
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1
I would also consider giving chrome a break and using a different browser to see if you battery life improves. I'm currently using Boat Browser but there are several browsers.
junior_mafioso said:
Ive had a few questions when it comes to my trial with samsung devices and this is where my story starts..
So I have had a mirage of Samsung devices starting with the Note 2, to the Galaxy s4, and now currently the Note 3. I have put as much time and effort as my noob abilities will allow me to and I'm honestly trying to figure out a couple of things. Throughout all these devices in less than one year I have realized that I can only get my battery to supply modest results. I have torn through xda and have done almost every solution out there to in order to increase my battery life. With no impacting results I sit here truly wondering how is it that people can really get more than a day out of these phones. I have honestly never been able to get any of these phones to 5-6 hours screen on time and more than 24 hours off the charger. I evny the people that swear they are heavy users and still get great battery life, but I just dont see how this is possible from my experience...
I would say on a normal day i use the device moderatly and somewhat carefully as to retain the battery life to the fullest. I normally have my phone on WiFi for about half the day but I do browse and do a bit on LTE too. I use all kinds of social apps (twitter, instagram, fb, hangouts for sms, etc) that are all using push notifications. I have a university email that uses exchange and that is push as well. I stream all my music using Google play music daily but also a lot on WiFi. I search the web a lot and use flipboard constantly. I hardly use any games except at home when I know I have my charger. So one of my questions is, does this classify me as a heavy user comparing to all of you people?
I have tried almost everything.. Wake lock detector, turning off absolutely everything location based, app ops, power saver for when I'm at work (8+ hours), turning off all the smart features, low brightness, turning off bloat, etc. But still nothing too spectacular for results. Keep I'm mind I'm all stock and for now I dont really want to change that. So my main question after that long story is, am I missing something? Should I be getting better battery life after all these attempts? Is my battery life ok for how I use my phone? Are there any other options so I can be like the people getting monster battery life?
What made me write this post is because I was at BestBuy and one of the Samsung reps had the same Verizon note 3 that I have. I asked him if I could see his battery stats (which he did not know how to find.. Wow) and his phone had been on for over a day and had 7 hours of screen on time.. It blew me away that he was getting extraordinary battery life and obviously didnt do a thing to try to preserve it.
Keep in mind the battery stats posted are actually some of the best Ive had when it comes to screen on time so usually its dead after about 16 hrs and 3 hrs screen on time.
Sent from my SM-N900V using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I agree that something just doesn't seem right with Chrome using about as much battery as your screen. Try another browser, make sure you clear your recent apps, and turn off anything that you are not going to be using. I turn off all of the touch sounds and haptic feedback, as well as smart stay and air gestures, etc..I never really seemed to get the battery life that I thought I should be getting whenever I was on the Stock ROM.
Maybe chrome is the culprit but I do clear the ram and close apps all the time.. Its just frustrating that I'm trying everything and nothing seems to be changing much..
Sent from my SM-N900V using xda app-developers app
junior_mafioso said:
Maybe chrome is the culprit but I do clear the ram and close apps all the time.. Its just frustrating that I'm trying everything and nothing seems to be changing much..
Sent from my SM-N900V using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I personally like Firefox and Opera Mini, it's a matter of personal preference though. There are a bunch of browsers out there. I also use Battery Doctor and Clean Master to clear cache, junk files and applications running in the background. If your rooted you can download "Greenify" which would probably help you as well.
Xanza89 said:
I personally like Firefox and Opera Mini, it's a matter of personal preference though. There are a bunch of browsers out there. I also use Battery Doctor and Clean Master to clear cache, junk files and applications running in the background. If your rooted you can download "Greenify" which would probably help you as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the Greenify Donation app, and love it. Stopped using Chrome because it was tearing my battery life down, using the Stock Browser and Boat Browser at times. Greenify also helps with some other apps that just keep running even though I didn't use them during the day. The only thing I have as an exception, is my Blackberry Messenger to communicate with my family abroad during the day and that app has been behaving nicely. Everything else, minus HD Widgets, has been Greenified, and I can go all day (unplug at 7A, plug back in around 9P with plenty of juice left.
So this is what I get after a long period using wakelock detector. Does anyone have any insight as to what this all means. What does the x538 refer to and how does this app show how it's affecting my phone? One is the CPU wake lock and the other is the screen.
Sent from my SM-N900V using xda app-developers app
The 538 is how many times it has woken the phone up (wake lock).
Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
Is that amount excessive is the question?
Sent from my SM-N900V using xda app-developers app
Got this phone about 10 days ago and my battery is terrible since day 1, someone suggested to root my phone and get the BBS app and dump a file i did that and installed a system tuner to disable google CHECKIN OR GCM and unchecked them. apps i got installed to help with battery battery doctor, wakelock detector, os monitor, system tuner, gsam battery, betterbatterystats.
Apps i disabled are:
Ant radio service
Ant+ plugins
App zone
Blurbcheckout
chaton
chrome
flipboard
google play book, games, movies, music, newstand , google search, google+ , hangouts
hp print service plugin
my magazine
s health , svoice , samsung account , samsung apps , samsung galaxy apps widget, samsung push service, smart remote , Top Hd Games
got a plain black wallpaper, even after all this i cant get more than 2h30m screentime and everyone is getting 5h+ do i have a defective unit? what are my options right now? cause basically i removed everything the phone has lol. i talk to my workplace and they can send the phone for repair but i want to see if someone can help me before i do that. i have to unroot the phone if i have to send it for repair even though my phone is 0x1 on knox cause i was stupid to root with cf-root and didnt check other methods.
After all that you did, then it sounds like a faulty battery or device.
Sent from my SM-G900H using Tapatalk
How's your signal at work? I'm on 3g at half signal maybe? I get about 3:30 and standby. But when I'm at home WIFI only I get about 4-4:30 it all depends too on how bright your screen is.
darkfangex5 said:
How's your signal at work? I'm on 3g at half signal maybe? I get about 3:30 and standby. But when I'm at home WIFI only I get about 4-4:30 it all depends too on how bright your screen is.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How do I check if I have a good signal at work? Through an app or through a battery status.
Sent from my SM-G900W8 using XDA Free mobile app
This system tuner app you used it not any overclocking or something that might drain you battery?
What screen brightness do you use most of the time?
Can you see what use most of your battery? There is charts you can access in settings -> battery
I run with BLAZE kernel and Alliance ROM. (install without any samsung or google bloat if you can)
And I have been using my phone constantly, playing streemed music, installing apps, downloading from internet, browsing internet, having screen active a lot...
And Now I'm at 87% and have been running 1 hour and 38 minutes on battery. (Was at about 100% battery before)
I run +5 screen brightness and don't have any special powersaving features running that limit my experience with the phone.
You could try that kernel and ROM too, I feel they improved my battery time a lot.
I also shut down some samsung and google bloat stuff like air browse, s voice and such crap, saving a little little battery.
Here is my battery info and my brightness level. I have Canadian g900w from Rogers so I am not sure what roms or kernels you can use ?
Sent from my SM-G900W8 using XDA Free mobile app
kgyirhj said:
This system tuner app you used it not any overclocking or something that might drain you battery?
What screen brightness do you use most of the time?
Can you see what use most of your battery? There is charts you can access in settings -> battery
I run with BLAZE kernel and Alliance ROM. (install without any samsung or google bloat if you can)
And I have been using my phone constantly, playing streemed music, installing apps, downloading from internet, browsing internet, having screen active a lot...
And Now I'm at 87% and have been running 1 hour and 38 minutes on battery. (Was at about 100% battery before)
I run +5 screen brightness and don't have any special powersaving features running that limit my experience with the phone.
You could try that kernel and ROM too, I feel they improved my battery time a lot.
I also shut down some samsung and google bloat stuff like air browse, s voice and such crap, saving a little little battery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I posted my info with photos ^ thanks
Sent from my SM-G900W8 using XDA Free mobile app
Hey, here I have everything turned on and I never followed these stupid extreme battery guides and I easily get over 4 hours of screen time and one day away from the charger. I only use auto brightness, Greenify and KT Kernel.
It's a smartphone, if you're supposed to turn all the features off then you should have bought a dumb feature phone.
Looks like ur using max brightness? Nearly 2 hours screen on time for 44% isnt the best but isnt terrible. I get around 5 to 6 hours using low brightness 3g/4g on besides when screen on. Using android tuner and greenify for tuneing. Screen uses a lot of battery to. Im using. Ktoons kernal now with oc and the batterys probably the same to to me. No beter or worse but. Im running higher clock.
Sent from my SM-G900I using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
---------- Post added at 07:15 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:14 AM ----------
I also use normal power save eith the greyscale option selected and I have the cpu limited disabled.because ktoons app limits it for me.
Sent from my SM-G900I using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
sofia-captivate said:
Here is my battery info and my brightness level. I have Canadian g900w from Rogers so I am not sure what roms or kernels you can use ?
Sent from my SM-G900W8 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're set for almost four hours of screen on time there, on what seems to be very poor mobile signal. Doesn't sound that unrealistic to me to be honest.
Poor mobile signal absolutely kills battery life, as your phone spends the entire time searching and trying to get a better signal.
dandroid13 said:
Hey, here I have everything turned on and I never followed these stupid extreme battery guides and I easily get over 4 hours of screen time and one day away from the charger. I only use auto brightness, Greenify and KT Kernel.
It's a smartphone, if you're supposed to turn all the features off then you should have bought a dumb feature phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think his point is that most people get 5-6 hours screen time with everything on and without following the "stupid extreme battery guides". To be honest it looks like you aren't getting great life either if you are only getting 4 hours. I regularly get 6-7 with everything on and no greenify or kernel tweaks
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
sofia-captivate said:
Here is my battery info and my brightness level. I have Canadian g900w from Rogers so I am not sure what roms or kernels you can use ?
Sent from my SM-G900W8 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I see a couple of things interesting with your setup, Speaking from personal experience, I too have had battery issues drive me up a wall. I'd get just about a day on a battery when everyone else gets about 3-9 days more. My friend has an s5 all stock and he gets 9 days on a freaking battery. WTF
I rooted my first s5, with ANCH baseband and still couldn't solve all the issues with it. So I sent it back to t-mo and they sent me another one, getting batteries on ebay has also ended up a wash. 2 batteries I've received go down 20% from a full charge in the first hour and shut completely down at 32 percent at least I got a refund on that. (So be careful about ebay batteries, even though they say samsung.
So looking at yours here's what I see, Your system is staying awake, lets look at wake locks. Kik is really tearing up your machines wakelock (900wake locks) as well as the camera CPU time, i'd imagine you were recording a video at some point.
1. Go get greenify and greenify those Kik, Instagram and camera apps if thats usage while the screen is off. (No notifications on those apps, i'm afraid when you do that.)
2. Go get system tuner, make sure your rooted by towelroot (If you so choose to keep from tripping knox) and go into app mgr and find android system and go through activities, receivers and services and make sure everything you see that says IQAgent gets unchecked. This will help you stay out of ServiceIQ's eyes and also help your battery as your entire phone is debugged through those apps. (Help is on the forums somewhere)
3. Turn off google now, hotword detection and location history or you'll start noticing Google services draining your battery
4. Go get deep sleep battery saver and remove that battery saver, I personally never liked it it only suggests things to do rather than do them for you. At night or whenever you need to save your battery turn on slumber and it will only take like a percent to 5% in the morning
5. You probably have a bad battery, especially if its down to that low. Time to exchange or return
I'm incredibly disappointed, i've had to do all these things to really figure things out, heck i'd be on firefox for about 15 minutes and go down 18% (Happened this morning)
Android really has some issues with kitkat, and even though we try and fix these problems with modifications there comes a point where one just gives up and tries to deal with it.
I don't understand why my phone gets 1.2 days and my co-workers Verizon s5 gets 9 days with normal usage. Everyone seems to have crazy all over the scale battery life results. Heck, i've reset my phone and flashed so many roms that i'd be safe to say that I have yet to have 10 full discharges in the 4 weeks i've had the phone. At the end of the day though, it's mountains better than my iphone 5 with a lenmar battery case.
Wish I could say the same with stability, I'd be on my bike and switch tracks (or try) and stuff just doesn't respond, heck I can't even go with voice activation with wired headphones and that is really a downer for me. I want to be able to hold down the pause and play and get the google now boop boop sound and speak as i'm riding.
I'm tired of this, and google has no answers, the fixes above only seem to add a couple of hours but not the 9 days I was seeing.
Goldie said:
I think his point is that most people get 5-6 hours screen time with everything on and without following the "stupid extreme battery guides". To be honest it looks like you aren't getting great life either if you are only getting 4 hours. I regularly get 6-7 with everything on and no greenify or kernel tweaks
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So? What do you do to have that many hours? Which rom? How often do you recharge? Which apps do you use? That's the point. I never freeze/uninstall anything...
dandroid13 said:
So? What do you do to have that many hours? Which rom? How often do you recharge? Which apps do you use? That's the point. I never freeze/uninstall anything...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My rom. With nothing removed or frozen as I have to keep all bloat due to development to check everything. I recharge every night usually with about 20% left and about 5h30 screen on. Using Tapatalk, music, calls, Internet. The usual stuff.
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
I get 6-7 hours normal use with the bloatware I never use frozen. And I mean never use.
Gtalk, whatsapp, line, google drive, dropbox, gmail, Yahoo mail, corporate mail, all running. No greenify. No battery saver.
Now playing games is different thing. 2-3 hours max.
My battery is amazing. I keep the screen brightness lower, keep networks and chips off when not using, i use bootmanager to prevent apps from launching ay boot and only 1 active widget. Good for a day and a half of very fair use !
Sent with Galaxy S5 SM-900W8 Rooted LB
It's your probleme. Problably you have some stupid apps I'm your phone that you shouldn't have.
Like you see in my picture. My battery it's just fine and there is 2 stupid apps that eat me my battery without do anything
My battery is great too, maybe problem is some apps
matheus_sc said:
My battery is great too, maybe problem is some apps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yup probably, the only flaw with a smartphone is its user
I am on the latest 7.0 beta, T-Mobile version, I am getting pretty frustrated. I only get ~2 hours of on screen time. Right now at 30% and Android System has used 1350 mAh and CPU total is close to 5 hours.
Attached some pictures from yesterday and basically the same exact thing - maybe one of the packages listed is killing the battery?
I know there are a lot of posts about this issue but nothing that I've found useful unfortunatlely.
Did you try a factory reset? That help me get good battery life.
Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk
dogredwing1 said:
Did you try a factory reset? That help me get good battery life.
Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Been thinking about doing that, but not sure why it got really bad all of a sudden. I could get 3 to 4 hours before.
I think I'll wait until the official release is out and then do a reset - hopefully it comes out soon.
Still on 6.0.1 & Android System is my #1 battery drainer.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk
randun said:
Still on 6.0.1 & Android System is my #1 battery drainer.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am getting pretty fed up. Thought the new updates would make it better but no go for me.
If only you got root, I strongly recommend using Myandroidtools/disable service. Samsung roms sucks pretty bad, I have never ever experienced something like battery drain on other phones. Since I disabled 80+ Google Services and some samsung bloat, android system takes about 2-4% drain after a whole day. I am using Renovate on nougat.
Looks like a lot of you are very unlucky. My battery life is superb! At the end of the day I still have ~35% battery remaining. I recharge every night regardless of how much battery I have left, so it does me just fine
amon87 said:
If only you got root, I strongly recommend using Myandroidtools/disable service. Samsung roms sucks pretty bad, I have never ever experienced something like battery drain on other phones. Since I disabled 80+ Google Services and some samsung bloat, android system takes about 2-4% drain after a whole day. I am using Renovate on nougat.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would strongly advise to stay away from any of those 'fancy' package disablers.
They do no good and often deteriate things. I have on average over 8hours SOT and never used disablers.
Most Samsung apps don't put any drain on the battery. It's things like Facebook etc that hog resources.
Yeah, if only i got Facebook apps installed. I have fully working locations, notifications and other stuff - most of services I disabled are feedbacks, silent loggers and stuff I dont need or use. Only corrupted app is Gmail - which I don't use.
I got sync switched on, lots of calls, auto brightness, voice assistant and usually get 5 hours SOT during my usage which isn't bad at all.
So not sure what did it, but I installed Greenify and also changed from 1080p to 1440p and I get about 3ish hours on screen time. Still terrible but will do for now.
My phone also feels faster after changing resolution back to 1440p. So weird.
Disable ubication and always on display.
hamer221 said:
Disable ubication and always on display.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I use AOD all day, one of the reasons I got the phone. Not willing to part ways with it lol
ubication?
shahran said:
I use AOD all day, one of the reasons I got the phone. Not willing to part ways with it lol
ubication?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I mean location. Aod takes almost 40% of battery in 24 hours.
hamer221 said:
I mean location. Aod takes almost 40% of battery in 24 hours.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I remember Samsung saying it only consumes a couple a percentage points.
This article tested and it's nowhere near 40%. And I use the phone about 15 hours before it gets charged again so it should have a huge impact.
ww.techspot.com/amp/news/64162-tested-galaxy-s7-always-display-consumes-little-battery.html?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us
shahran said:
I remember Samsung saying it only consumes a couple a percentage points.
This article tested and it's nowhere near 40%. And I use the phone about 15 hours before it gets charged again so it should have a huge impact.
ww.techspot.com/amp/news/64162-tested-galaxy-s7-always-display-consumes-little-battery.html?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okay, stop reading useless news and try it by yourself. Phone dont go fully in doze mode with AOD on and keeps light and other sensors on like proximity to put more or less light in the aod screen. You are complaining about **** battery and I am telling you that I have tested how aod can take 40% of battery in one day. You really believe samsung? Come on...
hamer221 said:
Okay, stop reading useless news and try it by yourself. Phone dont go fully in doze mode with AOD on and keeps light and other sensors on like proximity to put more or less light in the aod screen. You are complaining about **** battery and I am telling you that I have tested how aod can take 40% of battery in one day. You really believe samsung? Come on...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I really don't think you're right as that's not my experience either. I cited the article because usually the tech websites have some experience - my anecdotal data, or yours, doesn't carry much weight.
As posted before, my screen time has increased and keeps going up. Got near 4 hours of on screen time today. Greenify must have killed a process that was putting the CPU on overdrive and which showed up under Android System. I shouldn't have to take the time to find fixes however since Samsung and the Doze feature should be doing this already.
I appreciate your advice, no need to get upset we're just having a discussion...
shahran said:
I really don't think you're right as that's not my experience either. I cited the article because usually the tech websites have some experience - my anecdotal data, or yours, doesn't carry much weight.
As posted before, my screen time has increased and keeps going up. Got near 4 hours of on screen time today. Greenify must have killed a process that was putting the CPU on overdrive and which showed up under Android System. I shouldn't have to take the time to find fixes however since Samsung and the Doze feature should be doing this already.
I appreciate your advice, no need to get upset we're just having a discussion...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't really see a discussion in the fact that AOD uses a lot of battery if you keep it on all day, it's pretty much guaranteed that AOD is the main culprit. And your own experience with your phone and its settings is worth a lot more than the experiences from some tech website. Everyone's phone/settings is different.