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horrific battery life...help?!

Hi All
Once again thanks for watching my video and getting me tickets to MWC...but alas i have another issue. My Note has horrific battery life....practically about 8 hours.
I downloaded better battery stats and there are no major wakelocks going on...(just juice defender at 3.4% which i uninstalled anyway) ....any other ideas?
Any help would be appreciated, another Mobiler suggested i put a custom rom on...I'm just terrified of 'bricking' my phone lol

This is perfectly average battery life for stock rom with moderate to heavy usage but if on light usage you might have some issues. Here is my battery like with heavy use.
Don't pay attention to people claiming Days of battery life they are simply not using the phone.
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Battery life is certainly better than that on my old HTC Desire HD. Far better.
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Staceymobiler said:
Hi All
Once again thanks for watching my video and getting me tickets to MWC...but alas i have another issue. My Note has horrific battery life....practically about 8 hours.
I downloaded better battery stats and there are no major wakelocks going on...(just juice defender at 3.4% which i uninstalled anyway) ....any other ideas?
Any help would be appreciated, another Mobiler suggested i put a custom rom on...I'm just terrified of 'bricking' my phone lol
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Maybe you could post up your betterybatterystats results?

I was having the same problem. I have a lot of apps on my phone, and it was just draining while sleeping as far as I could see. My main issue was all the unwanted apps like the social and media hub popping up whenever they felt like chomping on my battery.
I finally gave in and rooted, and installed droidwall to prevent anything getting network access I do not allow, android assistant for its start up manager, and autorun to delete all 'event listeners' that cause apps to pop up when they like (and there are hundreds of these in the stock apps, I assure you).
I now have 50% more battery life, and it seems to lose a lot less while sleeping.
I installed the CPU speed set thingy (sorry, I forget the name) but I had the problem a few others seem to have because it drained the battery faster than ever while sleeping. I will try again after a few days. I screenshot the battery graph in full screen, showing the WiFi, wake & screen, every day so that I can get a good feel for historical usage and battery life.
I have an el cheapo battery (had two but lost one) for emergencies. I am buying a Samsung one instead (for a 'real' 2500 mAh), and expect to keep it on me at all times. That should take me through a day of pretty heavy usage. I also have some dangly 'add-on' chargers, but frankly a spare battery is neater, smaller and easier.
I have also bout a tablet (10.2" with 16GB) for $200. I fully expect to buy another - one for work and one for home. These will reduce my usage of the G-Note and leave it for actual use as a phone. The main problem is that I use it so damned much! I have my phone, contacts, all my To Do lists, email, audible books, textual books, surfing, games, etc all on one device. I also use it to type notes at meetings or the like using my folding BT keyboard. It does it all really well, but does not have the battery to cope!
I know there are fat batteries out there, but I do not want to spoil the beauty of my svelte Note by giving it a hunch-back!
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I also use Llama to control things like BT, WiFi and network data access when away from home or office. It does help, and means I don't have to remember to toggle. I tried Juice Defender as well, but its idea of turning on the WiFi at intervals saved my battery but seemed to make my email (IMAP) never download. I need to know when emails come in so that did not work for me. I may try it again at some point and try to make it work better for me.

Uninstall Juice Defender. I found my phone battery lasted twice longer after I removed it.
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Hi staceymobiler
Root n install the charks rom... woth v3.3 kernel
I vet past one day on single charge n its freakin awsome......
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I use my phone for note taking all day and into the evening! Screen and internet used for over 12 hours, constant use! (Screen on lowest setting)
After battery "settled" I get around 10 hours then pop in a second battery!
Took about 15 charging cycles though to get the 10 hours!
Anyway just saying it may take time! And a second battery is always safest
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that's... actually pretty normal battery usage if you're using your phone a lot.
my note is operating pretty much 18hours a day. A full charge is all i need, and by the end of the day, i get the critical battery notification.
if your note lasted more than a day, that's great. But with the amount of workload i am expending using my note, i wouldn't be surprised if continued usage of the phone would only last 7 to 8 hours tops. or much less.
and besides, the note can last for more than 2 days, if you didn't use it at all.

thanks for all the suggestions...i'm going to give rooting it a go this evening. Will let you know how that goes.

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This is perfectly average battery life for stock rom with moderate to heavy usage but if on light usage you might have some issues. Here is my battery like with heavy use.
Don't pay attention to people claiming Days of battery life they are simply not using the phone.
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Yeap, that seems like average battery life. If you notice (others) that his screen on time was pretty solid most of the time. That means of the nearly 6 hours on, I'd say about 4.x hours the screen was on. So that's good

I have managed to improve my Galaxy note battery life a LOT by doing the following:
- Disable Wi-Fi when not using it.
- Settings > Accounts and Sync > UN-TICK "Auto-sync".
With auto-sync disabled you have to manually open the relevent app to get the data, but for me, thats what I prefer, and it saves loads of battery life.
Used to be 8 hours or less with the above 2 enabled.
now 16 hours+ with the above 2 disabled !

Installed free version of Juice Defender 3 days ago, didn't do anything just keeping it on balanced mod and from now on I have extended normal battery life (phone, e-mails, sms, occasional internet through 3G) from 1 day to 2 days. What can I say ...
It works. When you switch into wifi, gaming or intensive document editing then nothing is going to save you, but just for having the phone in your pocket and using it as a "phone" Juice Defender delivers.
I noticed on the market that roughly half people say it is excellent and the other half is whining that it just sucks. Give it a try a decide for yourself.

Just turn auto sync off and untick "Use wireless networks" and you will be blown away by the battery life.

The last two days my battery was losing power too quickly compared to my previous weeks with my note.
So I thought it must be an app which I installed which is causing this. The only app I installed recently was Google + so it took it off and hey presto - battery life back to normal again.
You might say well it doesn't drain my battery with google+ installed but it works with mine as I tried re-installing again and it sapped the battery again.
Maybe different apps effect different roms, kernals etc...just a thought and something you could try with a recently installed app.

Staceymobiler said:
thanks for all the suggestions...i'm going to give rooting it a go this evening. Will let you know how that goes.
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Hur, hur!
(sorry, that has different connotations downunder....)
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nickpimenta said:
I have managed to improve my Galaxy note battery life a LOT by doing the following:
- Disable Wi-Fi when not using it.
- Settings > Accounts and Sync > UN-TICK "Auto-sync".
With auto-sync disabled you have to manually open the relevent app to get the data, but for me, thats what I prefer, and it saves loads of battery life.
Used to be 8 hours or less with the above 2 enabled.
now 16 hours+ with the above 2 disabled !
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uncommonaman said:
Just turn auto sync off and untick "Use wireless networks" and you will be blown away by the battery life.
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I can see that as an option, and I believe that all of those who report great battery life are doing much the same. My problem is that I want to be kept alerted to emails. I have tried Juice Defender, as it starts up wireless at defined intervals, but since my email is checking at other defined intervals, at appears that the email never gets through. I have to assume they never coincide.
I also like certain apps to sync, although I guess I could do that manually. Currently I turn on autosync while at home or work with Llama. Luckily the wireless and autosync toggles are in the notification dropdown as well - that is a wonderful idea.
I use the Note far too much, so (as I have probably said) I am getting a tablet. I hope that it will serve as my email notification when I am at home or work. When Llama knows I am at neither place, it can disable autosync and enable mobile data for me (which I keep off at home & work).
It is a delicate balance trying to get full desired operation and decent battery life. I am not sure it is really worth all the agro. I may just settle for a spare battery in my wallet and a dock/battery charger by my bedside. That is probably the easiest of all options! Then I can game away whenever I like without constantly checking the battery

Im using a custom rom rocket rom v21 with abyss kernel... which gives me a battery for 40 hours approx. With fair amount of usage. Sync off facebook app as it sucks a lot of battery too.
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In wifi settings enable the option to turn wifi of if the screen is off. That adds a lot of battery time. I get far more than 8 hours and i use it all the time with wifi etc.
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Zamboney said:
In wifi settings enable the option to turn wifi of if the screen is off. That adds a lot of battery time. I get far more than 8 hours and i use it all the time with wifi etc.
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Awesome! Been looking for this feature for awhile now. Only downfall is just remembering to switch it back when i'm using Pandora

A bit off topic but I experienced a fluke on my battery life, was just watching simpsons while I had my wifi connected and only had my yahoo messenger connected probably a total of 10-15 messages in 4hrs range, for 4 hours of screen time it normally drains 50-51% only.
I almost always have the same scenario when I watch simpsons on my phone, yahoo messenger running but it the first time to drain it like this.

How to get epic battery life?

Hey guys,
I see some people here have AMAZING battery life. Some people are getting 4+ hours screen on time with a single charge.
I only get around 2 - 2.5 hours screen on time. Which is good, but not as good as other people.
I am using the latest Paranoid Android ROM, and I have tried many different kernels but battery life is the same with all of them. I tried undervolting, still the same battery life.
All location/gps settings are OFF. The only syncing I have is Facebook syncing every 4 hours. I checked the battery stats, and everything is normal. I checked Better Battery Stats and everything is normal too, no unusual wakelocks or anything like that.
I checked my cpu bin in terminal, and it has been binned as a 'FASTER' cpu.
I have very good signal all the time. Always use WiFi, never mobile data. Bluetooth, NFC are OFF, and brightness is autobrightness.
So after all this, why am I not getting amazing battery life like others?
Thank you!

harro3 said:
Hey guys,
I see some people here have AMAZING battery life. Some people are getting 4+ hours screen on time with a single charge.
I only get around 2 - 2.5 hours screen on time. Which is good, but not as good as other people.
I am using the latest Paranoid Android ROM, and I have tried many different kernels but battery life is the same with all of them. I tried undervolting, still the same battery life.
All location/gps settings are OFF. The only syncing I have is Facebook syncing every 4 hours. I checked the battery stats, and everything is normal. I checked Better Battery Stats and everything is normal too, no unusual wakelocks or anything like that.
I checked my cpu bin in terminal, and it has been binned as a 'FASTER' cpu.
I have very good signal all the time. Always use WiFi, never mobile data. Bluetooth, NFC are OFF, and brightness is autobrightness.
So after all this, why am I not getting amazing battery life like others?
Thank you!
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Because you use the phone and the others no! I have similar battery life. I get 3 hours screen on time.
Try cyanogenmod. For me is the best rom.

Heres a few things that help me:
make sure if your on a ROM that has it to disable cell broadcasts in wireless & network settings.
In Google sync settings, uncheck everything you don't use or can manually sync. The only things I leave checked are gmail, contacts & calendar.
If you've opened maps, make sure to back all the way out of it & swipe it away from your recent tasks screen. Better yet, if you don't need it, uninstall it or use an alternative like mapquest app.
If you don't use Google talk, open it and sign out or uninstall it.
Try not to overdo it with widgets on your home screens. I mean a few is cool, but when u have 5 screens all jam packed with various widgets constantly running & syncing...
I know you said you've tried various kernels, but I honestly found that I got the best screen on time with Franco r86 kernel (just over 4hrs). I'm not a huge kernel fan so I haven't really tried others, but I was only getting just over 3 hrs on stock.
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harro3 said:
Hey guys,
I see some people here have AMAZING battery life. Some people are getting 4+ hours screen on time with a single charge.
I only get around 2 - 2.5 hours screen on time. Which is good, but not as good as other people.
I am using the latest Paranoid Android ROM, and I have tried many different kernels but battery life is the same with all of them. I tried undervolting, still the same battery life.
All location/gps settings are OFF. The only syncing I have is Facebook syncing every 4 hours. I checked the battery stats, and everything is normal. I checked Better Battery Stats and everything is normal too, no unusual wakelocks or anything like that.
I checked my cpu bin in terminal, and it has been binned as a 'FASTER' cpu.
I have very good signal all the time. Always use WiFi, never mobile data. Bluetooth, NFC are OFF, and brightness is autobrightness.
So after all this, why am I not getting amazing battery life like others?
Thank you!
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I use the greenify app to hibernate facebook and words with friends it helps somewhat on battery life

I recently discovered that if I reduce the brightness down to 50% (which is still very BRIGHT), I can get an extra 30% battery life.
Simple, and yet, effective

Turn the brightness down - even 10pct is plenty bright indoors.
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Flash matrix kernel
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lowrider262 said:
Heres a few things that help me:
make sure if your on a ROM that has it to disable cell broadcasts in wireless & network settings.
In Google sync settings, uncheck everything you don't use or can manually sync. The only things I leave checked are gmail, contacts & calendar.
If you've opened maps, make sure to back all the way out of it & swipe it away from your recent tasks screen. Better yet, if you don't need it, uninstall it or use an alternative like mapquest app.
If you don't use Google talk, open it and sign out or uninstall it.
Try not to overdo it with widgets on your home screens. I mean a few is cool, but when u have 5 screens all jam packed with various widgets constantly running & syncing...
I know you said you've tried various kernels, but I honestly found that I got the best screen on time with Franco r86 kernel (just over 4hrs). I'm not a huge kernel fan so I haven't really tried others, but I was only getting just over 3 hrs on stock.
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Thanks, I have now signed out of google talk. I only have one widget at the moment and that's the clock widget. It's annoying that everyone can get 3 or 4 hours screen on time and I only get 2

harro3 said:
Hey guys,
I see some people here have AMAZING battery life. Some people are getting 4+ hours screen on time with a single charge.
I only get around 2 - 2.5 hours screen on time. Which is good, but not as good as other people.
I am using the latest Paranoid Android ROM, and I have tried many different kernels but battery life is the same with all of them. I tried undervolting, still the same battery life.
All location/gps settings are OFF. The only syncing I have is Facebook syncing every 4 hours. I checked the battery stats, and everything is normal. I checked Better Battery Stats and everything is normal too, no unusual wakelocks or anything like that.
I checked my cpu bin in terminal, and it has been binned as a 'FASTER' cpu.
I have very good signal all the time. Always use WiFi, never mobile data. Bluetooth, NFC are OFF, and brightness is autobrightness.
So after all this, why am I not getting amazing battery life like others?
Thank you!
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Try Eugene's CPU Sleeper from the market. It turns off all but one of your cores while the screen is off to minimize cpu usage. On CM nightly with stock kernel I got 34 hours with 17% remaining and 2.5 hours screen on time til I ended up charging my phone. I run my CPU at 1350 max / 384 min.
Make sure under sound settings all the sound on touch, keypad, etc are all turned off. Each time your phone ticks a sound it uses battery. Also bright display backgrounds will use more battery.
I only sync chrome, calendar and instant upload
good luck

harro3 said:
Hey guys,
I see some people here have AMAZING battery life. Some people are getting 4+ hours screen on time with a single charge.
I only get around 2 - 2.5 hours screen on time. Which is good, but not as good as other people.
I am using the latest Paranoid Android ROM, and I have tried many different kernels but battery life is the same with all of them. I tried undervolting, still the same battery life.
All location/gps settings are OFF. The only syncing I have is Facebook syncing every 4 hours. I checked the battery stats, and everything is normal. I checked Better Battery Stats and everything is normal too, no unusual wakelocks or anything like that.
I checked my cpu bin in terminal, and it has been binned as a 'FASTER' cpu.
I have very good signal all the time. Always use WiFi, never mobile data. Bluetooth, NFC are OFF, and brightness is autobrightness.
So after all this, why am I not getting amazing battery life like others?
Thank you!
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Clock down your device
Use conservative cpu governor or something like that,
Undervolt if necessary
Have a low brightness screen if it's possible
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Flash Franco's kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002782
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You can also try this, it takes a few days to "learn" your routine then it supposedly starts saving battery. I'm currently in day 2 of learning mode so I don't know for sure how well it works. But it seems to be getting good reviews so far...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
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lowrider262 said:
You can also try this, it takes a few days to "learn" your routine then it supposedly starts saving battery. I'm currently in day 2 of learning mode so I don't know for sure how well it works. But it seems to be getting good reviews so far...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
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I've read the the battery guru app does nothing for your phone whatsoever...

mrjoeltan said:
I've read the the battery guru app does nothing for your phone whatsoever...
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It just turns radios off and shuts down syncing, nothing you can't do by yourself.
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mrjoeltan said:
I've read the the battery guru app does nothing for your phone whatsoever...
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Well it basically learns your routines and changes your sync settings, turns WiFi on/off when needed, and various other things you could do yourself but might forget. Kinda like tasker for lazy people so in theory yes it could save you some battery.
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VoiD_Dweller said:
Try Eugene's CPU Sleeper from the market. It turns off all but one of your cores while the screen is off to minimize cpu usage. On CM nightly with stock kernel I got 34 hours with 17% remaining and 2.5 hours screen on time til I ended up charging my phone. I run my CPU at 1350 max / 384 min.
Make sure under sound settings all the sound on touch, keypad, etc are all turned off. Each time your phone ticks a sound it uses battery. Also bright display backgrounds will use more battery.
I only sync chrome, calendar and instant upload
good luck
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All those sounds are already off, that's the first thing I do
Thanks for that app, I'll try it to see if it helps.
curtzxion said:
Clock down your device
Use conservative cpu governor or something like that,
Undervolt if necessary
Have a low brightness screen if it's possible
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I undervolted the hell out of my phone, at one time it was a -150mv undervolt.
Brightness was on auto, I've now switched to controlling it manually to see if that helps
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Flash Franco's kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002782
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Tried his kernel already a few weeks ago. No real change in battery.

That seems weird
I am completely stock, and set things more or less the same with you (not syncing, no gps unless needed, on wifi all the time) and I could get over 4 hours screen on time on an 18 hours battery life. I believe this phone (chipset?) is really efficient on standby. Does your phone show that it's being kept awake much using the cpu spy app?

Same here... I'm on stock and the best i got was pretty impressive i think. 49 hours with 4 hours screen on time. I waited till the phone turned off by itself Even though i don't get that with heavier use, it's still enough to take me through a whole day which is better then my old phone
My battery saving tips:
-turn off everything you're not using (wi-fi when not at home or office/school, bluetooth, gps, low brightness indoors)
-swype away apps after you exit from them
-turn off the screen when you put it down/in your pocket etc.
-turn off google now
That is everything that i do. No sync disabling, undervolting, underclocking or other tricks

Install greenify app from playstore
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drbrainsol said:
My battery saving tips:
-swype away apps after you exit from them
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That doesn't do anything. Android as a native app killer. On the other side, this would lead to more battery consumption as Android would have to initalize data the next time you open that app. IMHO leave the apps as they are, Android would take care of them and kill them when required.
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Kinda like tasker for lazy people so in theory yes it could save you some battery.
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IMO it's isn't as powerful as tasker, but it's giving some extra juice.

Can someone help explain why my battery drains so fast

My SoT is 20 mins, media server has been running for 30 mins.
I have 3G, BT, WiFi , GPS and Google now on all the time. My S3 is able to get a constant 24 hours with the same use.
It seems that the nexus 4 idles OK, but plummets when anything is being used.
I'm using stock ROM, rooted with Franco kernel M1.
I've tried using better battery stats but it keeps resetting every time I open it, making it kinda useless.
Anyone have any idea why the media server uses so much or why its draining so quick?
Thanks

spoonboy said:
My SoT is 20 mins, media server has been running for 30 mins.
I have 3G, BT, WiFi , GPS and Google now on all the time. My S3 is able to get a constant 24 hours with the same use.
It seems that the nexus 4 idles OK, but plummets when anything is being used.
I'm using stock ROM, rooted with Franco kernel M1.
I've tried using better battery stats but it keeps resetting every time I open it, making it kinda useless.
Anyone have any idea why the media server uses so much or why its draining so quick?
Thanks
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Having all those settings turned on will eat your battery. Are you using BT and GPS during this usage? If not, turn them off. Also regarding mediaserver, SoundCloud or other music streaming apps will engage mediaserver. When your done using said apps kill them from recents menu. Alternatively, you're rooted. I suggest you look into Greenify in the app store. you can select the apps to hibernate when not in use, it requires root.
Regarding BBS, look in settings, you may have something set up within the app thats making it reset.

Given that the battery is the same size as the s3, shouldn't it be able to keep up with it?
If I have to keep turning things off, it defeats the object for me.
I can't imagine the exynos being that much better. Like I said, an easy 24 hours with the s3 under the same usage with all the same things on.
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You were listening to music via soundcloud so thats why media server is so high. Plus, you have GPS, Bluetooth and Google now enabled all the time! You answered your own question on why it's draining so fast.
If you don't need the services all the time, disable them until you need it.
It's the same as if you're wondering why your gas bill is so high when you leave the thermostat on at above 70 degrees Fahrenheit all winter long.
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Thanks for the replies.
I do not understand why my s3 can do this without using half as much. Is it really that much better than a stock Google phone with the same size battery??
I use same soundcloud usage on my s3 every single morning on the commute and its usually at 89/90%. I'm ending up with 75 on the nexus 4.
If the nexus 4 battery life is rubbish, that's fine. I'm just looking for confirmation its not broken, which it appears not to be. I knew the S3 was better with battery, just wasn't expecting not being able to get through a day with the nexus 4.
Ive seen lots of pics of ridiculous SoT time, but I guess they must turn everything off.
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Are you on 4.2.2? And how long have you had the phone?
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Hi. Yep on 4.2.2 and have been using the phone for a week.
Even with WiFi BT and GPS on this phone idles like a champ.
I'm convinced the drain isn't normal, 25 mins of sound cloud uses up more battery than the screen being on for over an hour.... Surely this cannot be right??
Its also worth noting that the phone gets quite hot - which I think is really odd seeing as all its doing is streaming audio.
I've attached some pics to demonstrate what I mean.
I really hope someone can help, I love this phone but if I cant get my normal day out of it on going to have to go back to the s3.
Thanks.
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This may not be the phone for you, but here's what I do.
I have toggles (SwitchPro) for Wifi, BT, Data, GPS etc. that I push when I need them. I also have DS Battery Saver which helps shut down said items when screen is not in use.
I'm a Moderate user but I don't think you ever need to have all activities (GPS etc) activated when you are not using that particular activity.
With that being said, you control the battery and screen time. You just need to know how to manage it.
Hope that helps.......

Do you keep large media files on your phone? I've had mediaserver kick my battery's ass on that before if it can't for some reason properly index/understand a media file.

Use betterbatterystats or something equivalent to track your CPU usage and what frequency it's sat at most.

Please explain!!!

Ive had a few questions when it comes to my trial with samsung devices and this is where my story starts..
So I have had a mirage of Samsung devices starting with the Note 2, to the Galaxy s4, and now currently the Note 3. I have put as much time and effort as my noob abilities will allow me to and I'm honestly trying to figure out a couple of things. Throughout all these devices in less than one year I have realized that I can only get my battery to supply modest results. I have torn through xda and have done almost every solution out there to in order to increase my battery life. With no impacting results I sit here truly wondering how is it that people can really get more than a day out of these phones. I have honestly never been able to get any of these phones to 5-6 hours screen on time and more than 24 hours off the charger. I evny the people that swear they are heavy users and still get great battery life, but I just dont see how this is possible from my experience...
I would say on a normal day i use the device moderatly and somewhat carefully as to retain the battery life to the fullest. I normally have my phone on WiFi for about half the day but I do browse and do a bit on LTE too. I use all kinds of social apps (twitter, instagram, fb, hangouts for sms, etc) that are all using push notifications. I have a university email that uses exchange and that is push as well. I stream all my music using Google play music daily but also a lot on WiFi. I search the web a lot and use flipboard constantly. I hardly use any games except at home when I know I have my charger. So one of my questions is, does this classify me as a heavy user comparing to all of you people?
I have tried almost everything.. Wake lock detector, turning off absolutely everything location based, app ops, power saver for when I'm at work (8+ hours), turning off all the smart features, low brightness, turning off bloat, etc. But still nothing too spectacular for results. Keep I'm mind I'm all stock and for now I dont really want to change that. So my main question after that long story is, am I missing something? Should I be getting better battery life after all these attempts? Is my battery life ok for how I use my phone? Are there any other options so I can be like the people getting monster battery life?
What made me write this post is because I was at BestBuy and one of the Samsung reps had the same Verizon note 3 that I have. I asked him if I could see his battery stats (which he did not know how to find.. Wow) and his phone had been on for over a day and had 7 hours of screen on time.. It blew me away that he was getting extraordinary battery life and obviously didnt do a thing to try to preserve it.
Keep in mind the battery stats posted are actually some of the best Ive had when it comes to screen on time so usually its dead after about 16 hrs and 3 hrs screen on time.
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junior_mafioso said:
Ive had a few questions when it comes to my trial with samsung devices and this is where my story starts..
So I have had a mirage of Samsung devices starting with the Note 2, to the Galaxy s4, and now currently the Note 3. I have put as much time and effort as my noob abilities will allow me to and I'm honestly trying to figure out a couple of things. Throughout all these devices in less than one year I have realized that I can only get my battery to supply modest results. I have torn through xda and have done almost every solution out there to in order to increase my battery life. With no impacting results I sit here truly wondering how is it that people can really get more than a day out of these phones. I have honestly never been able to get any of these phones to 5-6 hours screen on time and more than 24 hours off the charger. I evny the people that swear they are heavy users and still get great battery life, but I just dont see how this is possible from my experience...
I would say on a normal day i use the device moderatly and somewhat carefully as to retain the battery life to the fullest. I normally have my phone on WiFi for about half the day but I do browse and do a bit on LTE too. I use all kinds of social apps (twitter, instagram, fb, hangouts for sms, etc) that are all using push notifications. I have a university email that uses exchange and that is push as well. I stream all my music using Google play music daily but also a lot on WiFi. I search the web a lot and use flipboard constantly. I hardly use any games except at home when I know I have my charger. So one of my questions is, does this classify me as a heavy user comparing to all of you people?
I have tried almost everything.. Wake lock detector, turning off absolutely everything location based, app ops, power saver for when I'm at work (8+ hours), turning off all the smart features, low brightness, turning off bloat, etc. But still nothing too spectacular for results. Keep I'm mind I'm all stock and for now I dont really want to change that. So my main question after that long story is, am I missing something? Should I be getting better battery life after all these attempts? Is my battery life ok for how I use my phone? Are there any other options so I can be like the people getting monster battery life?
What made me write this post is because I was at BestBuy and one of the Samsung reps had the same Verizon note 3 that I have. I asked him if I could see his battery stats (which he did not know how to find.. Wow) and his phone had been on for over a day and had 7 hours of screen on time.. It blew me away that he was getting extraordinary battery life and obviously didnt do a thing to try to preserve it.
Keep in mind the battery stats posted are actually some of the best Ive had when it comes to screen on time so usually its dead after about 16 hrs and 3 hrs screen on time.
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if your doing graphic intensive stuff on the internet it will destroy your battery. The fact your chrome used almost as much battery as your screen makes me believe there's something wrong there..

My chrome browsing basically just consists of normal web pages and some embedded videos on news and sports sites. Is that enough to cause that much damage?
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It shouldn't. But just to be sure, whenever you're done using your phone at times you can go into task manager holding down the home button and click the clear memory button under the RAM tab. That will stop all processes from continuing to run when you're done using them
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LeftyGR said:
It shouldn't. But just to be sure, whenever you're done using your phone at times you can go into task manager holding down the home button and click the clear memory button under the RAM tab. That will stop all processes from continuing to run when you're done using them
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I would also consider giving chrome a break and using a different browser to see if you battery life improves. I'm currently using Boat Browser but there are several browsers.

junior_mafioso said:
Ive had a few questions when it comes to my trial with samsung devices and this is where my story starts..
So I have had a mirage of Samsung devices starting with the Note 2, to the Galaxy s4, and now currently the Note 3. I have put as much time and effort as my noob abilities will allow me to and I'm honestly trying to figure out a couple of things. Throughout all these devices in less than one year I have realized that I can only get my battery to supply modest results. I have torn through xda and have done almost every solution out there to in order to increase my battery life. With no impacting results I sit here truly wondering how is it that people can really get more than a day out of these phones. I have honestly never been able to get any of these phones to 5-6 hours screen on time and more than 24 hours off the charger. I evny the people that swear they are heavy users and still get great battery life, but I just dont see how this is possible from my experience...
I would say on a normal day i use the device moderatly and somewhat carefully as to retain the battery life to the fullest. I normally have my phone on WiFi for about half the day but I do browse and do a bit on LTE too. I use all kinds of social apps (twitter, instagram, fb, hangouts for sms, etc) that are all using push notifications. I have a university email that uses exchange and that is push as well. I stream all my music using Google play music daily but also a lot on WiFi. I search the web a lot and use flipboard constantly. I hardly use any games except at home when I know I have my charger. So one of my questions is, does this classify me as a heavy user comparing to all of you people?
I have tried almost everything.. Wake lock detector, turning off absolutely everything location based, app ops, power saver for when I'm at work (8+ hours), turning off all the smart features, low brightness, turning off bloat, etc. But still nothing too spectacular for results. Keep I'm mind I'm all stock and for now I dont really want to change that. So my main question after that long story is, am I missing something? Should I be getting better battery life after all these attempts? Is my battery life ok for how I use my phone? Are there any other options so I can be like the people getting monster battery life?
What made me write this post is because I was at BestBuy and one of the Samsung reps had the same Verizon note 3 that I have. I asked him if I could see his battery stats (which he did not know how to find.. Wow) and his phone had been on for over a day and had 7 hours of screen on time.. It blew me away that he was getting extraordinary battery life and obviously didnt do a thing to try to preserve it.
Keep in mind the battery stats posted are actually some of the best Ive had when it comes to screen on time so usually its dead after about 16 hrs and 3 hrs screen on time.
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Yeah I agree that something just doesn't seem right with Chrome using about as much battery as your screen. Try another browser, make sure you clear your recent apps, and turn off anything that you are not going to be using. I turn off all of the touch sounds and haptic feedback, as well as smart stay and air gestures, etc..I never really seemed to get the battery life that I thought I should be getting whenever I was on the Stock ROM.

Maybe chrome is the culprit but I do clear the ram and close apps all the time.. Its just frustrating that I'm trying everything and nothing seems to be changing much..
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junior_mafioso said:
Maybe chrome is the culprit but I do clear the ram and close apps all the time.. Its just frustrating that I'm trying everything and nothing seems to be changing much..
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I personally like Firefox and Opera Mini, it's a matter of personal preference though. There are a bunch of browsers out there. I also use Battery Doctor and Clean Master to clear cache, junk files and applications running in the background. If your rooted you can download "Greenify" which would probably help you as well.

Xanza89 said:
I personally like Firefox and Opera Mini, it's a matter of personal preference though. There are a bunch of browsers out there. I also use Battery Doctor and Clean Master to clear cache, junk files and applications running in the background. If your rooted you can download "Greenify" which would probably help you as well.
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I have the Greenify Donation app, and love it. Stopped using Chrome because it was tearing my battery life down, using the Stock Browser and Boat Browser at times. Greenify also helps with some other apps that just keep running even though I didn't use them during the day. The only thing I have as an exception, is my Blackberry Messenger to communicate with my family abroad during the day and that app has been behaving nicely. Everything else, minus HD Widgets, has been Greenified, and I can go all day (unplug at 7A, plug back in around 9P with plenty of juice left.

So this is what I get after a long period using wakelock detector. Does anyone have any insight as to what this all means. What does the x538 refer to and how does this app show how it's affecting my phone? One is the CPU wake lock and the other is the screen.
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The 538 is how many times it has woken the phone up (wake lock).
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Is that amount excessive is the question?
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[Q] Battery life is turrible

So, I got a Galaxy S4 back at the beginning of December, and the battery life has just been awful since I got it. I'm talking 5 hours max.. of juice. Its bugging me because I have tried so many different options and nothing makes it last any longer. One time I got 8 hours and I was like planning on throwing a parade because it was so groundbreaking for my GS4.
Here's what I normally have going on:
Admittedly I use my phone quite a bit and it's always on full brightness because hey its a $600 1080p phone so I want to be able to use it to its full potential.
I do not have one game installed. Never been a huge fan of mobile gaming.
I usually have a 4-5 bar 4G signal and barely use my wifi because it's like 300kb/s down.. And really spotty.
I may listen to 30 minutes of music a day.
Most of the time I'm on twitter and looking up stuff on Chrome.
This is not a battery issue I do not believe because my brother got the same phone and he has had similar issues. My brother uses his phone maybe half the time I do, so I doubt it is my usage that is bringing it down. I seriously do not want to have to contact Samsung for them to tell me it probably has water damage and then ask me to wait 2 weeks to get my phone back. My phone does tend to get warm from time to time but I've seen multiple reports of that. My iPhone 4 that I upgraded got 8 or 9 hours of battery life on similar use. (Android rocks)
So what is the problem?
P. S. my phone ran down 8% while typing this.

Kwwolves2012 said:
So, I got a Galaxy S4 back at the beginning of December, and the battery life has just been awful since I got it. I'm talking 5 hours max.. of juice. Its bugging me because I have tried so many different options and nothing makes it last any longer. One time I got 8 hours and I was like planning on throwing a parade because it was so groundbreaking for my GS4.
Here's what I normally have going on:
Admittedly I use my phone quite a bit and it's always on full brightness because hey its a $600 1080p phone so I want to be able to use it to its full potential.
I do not have one game installed. Never been a huge fan of mobile gaming.
I usually have a 4-5 bar 4G signal and barely use my wifi because it's like 300kb/s down.. And really spotty.
I may listen to 30 minutes of music a day.
Most of the time I'm on twitter and looking up stuff on Chrome.
This is not a battery issue I do not believe because my brother got the same phone and he has had similar issues. My brother uses his phone maybe half the time I do, so I doubt it is my usage that is bringing it down. I seriously do not want to have to contact Samsung for them to tell me it probably has water damage and then ask me to wait 2 weeks to get my phone back. My phone does tend to get warm from time to time but I've seen multiple reports of that. My iPhone 4 that I upgraded got 8 or 9 hours of battery life on similar use. (Android rocks)
So what is the problem?
P. S. my phone ran down 8% while typing this.
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Are you running a custom or stock rom? And are you rooted?

Look at your battery usage in settings. Screen should be number 1. What's after that? Get betterbatterystats and see where your wake locks are. Without some additional info it's hard to help you

nerdyblonde said:
Are you running a custom or stock rom? And are you rooted?
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No I am not rooted anymore. My phone had a locked bootloader so I just uninstalled some bloatware and unrooted. I have had the problems since I got it.
Android 4.3
AT&T i337
MK2 Firmware

jd1639 said:
Look at your battery usage in settings. Screen should be number 1. What's after that? Get betterbatterystats and see where your wake locks are. Without some additional info it's hard to help you
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It depends on what I am using the most. Most of the time its below 10% of total battery use. I would say it is mostly Chrome at 4-8%.
Right now it has been on for 37 minutes and is at 85% battery.
84% screen
7% Chrome

Kwwolves2012 said:
It depends on what I am using the most. Most of the time its below 10% of total battery use. I would say it is mostly Chrome at 4-8%.
Right now it has been on for 37 minutes and is at 85% battery.
84% screen
7% Chrome
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so under battery usage it's just screen and chrome usually ? (iId dump chrome to begin with anyway)
Is GPS on ? Any other apps that would be constantly syncing like facebook, twitter, etc ?

hednik said:
so under battery usage it's just screen and chrome usually ? (iId dump chrome to begin with anyway)
Is GPS on ? Any other apps that would be constantly syncing like facebook, twitter, etc ?
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Yes, normally screen and chrome are the biggest consumers but I do use a few more apps. I've been wanting a Chrome alternative, but nothing I've tried has been as efficient.
I do use Twitter and Facebook(rarely), but at the same time, my brother doesn't use any social media and his battery isn't much better.

Kwwolves2012 said:
Yes, normally screen and chrome are the biggest consumers but I do use a few more apps. I've been wanting a Chrome alternative, but nothing I've tried has been as efficient.
I do use Twitter and Facebook(rarely), but at the same time, my brother doesn't use any social media and his battery isn't much better.
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The biggest user of battery would be the screen, LTE, and GPS or location based processes. Honestly LTE that doesn't use much unless you are streaming all the time. Something isn't letting you phone go to sleep and if you can root I would just do it to be able to use an app like greenify or another wakelock killer that lets you keep apps from keeping you phone awake. Also turning off sync in general helps i.e making you refresh stuff manually.

hednik said:
The biggest user of battery would be the screen, LTE, and GPS or location based processes. Honestly LTE that doesn't use much unless you are streaming all the time. Something isn't letting you phone go to sleep and if you can root I would just do it to be able to use an app like greenify or another wakelock killer that lets you keep apps from keeping you phone awake. Also turning off sync in general helps i.e making you refresh stuff manually.
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Thanks for your help so by the way. I always have gps off and I only get regular 4G in my area. I will check with Facebook and try to turn off automatic syncing. Rooting is an option, last time I went through kingo and did it just fine until I tried to flash Cm over my locked bootloader *facepalm* Haha. I haven't heard anything definitive on the downside of using that tool. It was very simple. Would you suggest me going that route for Greenway?

Kwwolves2012 said:
Thanks for your help so by the way. I always have gps off and I only get regular 4G in my area. I will check with Facebook and try to turn off automatic syncing. Rooting is an option, last time I went through kingo and did it just fine until I tried to flash Cm over my locked bootloader *facepalm* Haha. I haven't heard anything definitive on the downside of using that tool. It was very simple. Would you suggest me going that route for Greenway?
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No problem just hit the thank button
I'd root and just leave it stock the rest of the way. With battery life it's always YMMV. The battery stats given in the setting menu don't tell you much so apps like wakelock detector or Greenify allow you to stop apps from "waking" the device all the time to either push notifications, sysnc, do whatever crap they do in the background. You could also get something called better battery stats, the app in on xda just google it, and let it run from full charge to dead and then take some screenshots of partial wake locks, how often CPU is in deep sleep etc and others can help sort some out.
Just root with Kingo as its easy and leave the custom rom's alone haha.
BTW how did you fix the brick form flashing a custom rom on MK2 ? I'm on the good MDL firmware so not sure how others fixed the MK2 brick

hednik said:
No problem just hit the thank button
I'd root and just leave it stock the rest of the way. With battery life it's always YMMV. The battery stats given in the setting menu don't tell you much so apps like wakelock detector or Greenify allow you to stop apps from "waking" the device all the time to either push notifications, sysnc, do whatever crap they do in the background. You could also get something called better battery stats, the app in on xda just google it, and let it run from full charge to dead and then take some screenshots of partial wake locks, how often CPU is in deep sleep etc and others can help sort some out.
Just root with Kingo as its easy and leave the custom rom's alone haha.
BTW how did you fix the brick form flashing a custom rom on MK2 ? I'm on the good MDL firmware so not sure how others fixed the MK2 brick
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Well after about a zillion tries on Google I finally found where someone got out of soft brick. It was something like hold down volume down, home, and power buttons until two options come up after you first power on the device. They are like "proceed to recovery mode" or "boot regularly" (something close to those anyways) and then you hit the volume down key to select boot regular and it boots up the phone without seeing that Oden screen. I was so relieved, I had already BSed my chat with a Samsung rep so they probably would have fixed it do to "accidental" downloads caused my phone to brick.

Watch out having your brightness to 100%. My statusbar got burnt into my phone. Just be careful. I can see the clock numbers(blurry) as well as battery and such. It sucks.
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toxicpaulution said:
Watch out having your brightness to 100%. My statusbar got burnt into my phone. Just be careful. I can see the clock numbers(blurry) as well as battery and such. It sucks.
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Thanks for the heads up.

toxicpaulution said:
Watch out having your brightness to 100%. My statusbar got burnt into my phone. Just be careful. I can see the clock numbers(blurry) as well as battery and such. It sucks.
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Reminds me of my cappy having screen burn in on that old amoled. Good heads up
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hednik said:
Reminds me of my cappy having screen burn in on that old amoled. Good heads up
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Yeah I just wish I would have been warned as well, now I just keep my status bar off. It's not directly noticeable if I don't look at it but it's still there.
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