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So long story short after getting two defective Oneplus 2's in a row from Amazon I decided to step away from Oneplus to a more stable and reliable manufacturer.
I've come from a Oneplus 1 before this and I just spent the last three days going over every review of the MXPE. The only issue I have is if I'm making the right decision considering that battery life is pretty average? I'm not going to be using it for gaming, and I wont be using 3G instead of LTE.
Won't say it's bad. The turbo charged enables amazing fast charging times and Android M has surely improved some percentage of the battery. I carry a quick charge 2 enabled car charger too so i don't feel it's bad. i think you will get used to the battery offering of the MXPE.
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I had the same concerns as you have right now. The Screen of my OnePlus One got a crack, so I had to decide for myself "Do you want another one, or do you want to give an other manufacturer a try". I decided to buy the Moto X Style, which is the Pure in europe and was blown away by the display quality, the sound and the overall performance. And of course, it's as close to stock Android as it can get. The battery was a real letdown after a few hours of "testing" and recharge-cycles. Coming from a OPO, with all the possibilites to tweak and getting very high SOT, I was really really disappointed. But now, I'm getting really used to it and tweaked some settings a bit, to get more out of that battery. Now I'm on 4-5 hours of SOT and, thankfully, can go even further with the Turbo Charger. Of course, the battery could've been a bit larger (as always), but that's not a big issue in my opinion. Give it a chance, play around a little and you will see, that the overall experience prevails. With Marshmallow on the doorstep, you should get even more out of the battery, thanks to the Doze-Feature. There's a thread floating around, where a couple of users are reporting about an increasing battery life.
Thanks a lot for taking the trouble to reply guys. @doree Glad to see someone else coming from the OPO, I was used to getting 6-8 SOT with all the underclocking/volting that we used to do with AK kernel. Guess i'll do a bit more research from users using marshmallow on the X and then make a decision.
I'd say so far my battery life experience has been slightly worse than what I had with my Note 4, which is still pretty good overall. Especially since the update to MM it seems to drain less in standby. Currently have 2 hrs SOT with 38% battery left (and it last came off the charger Saturday morning). Granted, when I'm at home I always have it on Wifi which uses less battery than having it on GSM/LTE. On weekdays when I'm at work (where I don't have wifi) it drains a bit faster. And I also have a long commute which also isn't beneficial to battery life as it's constantly hopping towers during the commute.
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So long story short after getting two defective Oneplus 2's in a row from Amazon I decided to step away from Oneplus to a more stable and reliable manufacturer.
I've come from a Oneplus 1 before this and I just spent the last three days going over every review of the MXPE. The only issue I have is if I'm making the right decision considering that battery life is pretty average? I'm not going to be using it for gaming, and I wont be using 3G instead of LTE.
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I've read a lot different stuff concerning battery on the MXPE - with a handful of users reporting it's not great. But I must say, from my experience, battery life has been amazing. I get between 4 and 6 hours of SOT per charge. And a full charge can easily get me through 48 hours. I've never had battery life this great on a phone before. Right now I'm running stock LP, no tweaks, no nothing. I don't use WiFi, but location is set to high accuracy, and I'm always on LTE. I do have more than adequate cell signal strength which helps, and I run minimal apps. But overall I've been super impressed with battery life. :knock on wood:
Battery life is decent as long as your not playing games with full gpu usage. I get three straight hours of battery playing games. For the days I don't play games, battery life is good as oneplus one. But my old OnePlus takes the cake playing games and gpu usage with heat.. I'm on stock MM rom on mxpe and cm12 with custom kernel on 1+. Out of the box, I like mxpe hands down. Probably why I'm still stock on this phone. But once we get Custom marshmallow roms rolling, my flashiolic will kick in!
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i do not play games but i do chat a lot, movies etc, i get around 5 hours on screen time.
the phone usually lasts the whole day but you have to watch your apps some apps just drain your battery.
keep in mind that you can get 40% of charge in 15 min, you gotta love this feature over the one plus
So a lot of people and myself over on the Nexus 6P subreddit have been discussing about the possibility of some sort of battery drain with the arrival of the Feb patch. On any ROM/kernel combination (and even on stock at some point), my phone very easily reaches 4:45-5:00 of screen time throughout a day that is from 7am-10pm for me. Over the last month, it has progressively gotten worse, on some days reaching low levels with just 3:30 SoT. After using various ROMs, I decided to try out bone stock to see if I would get the same result (this was 3 days ago). And that has been the case... The phone barely reaches 4 hours of screen time.
Well you might suggest: "Disable services such as location and sync" or "What apps have you recently installed that could be causing drains?" And that's the thing. My usage patterns have not changed at all. I barely download new apps and always stick to using the same ones. Today my location was off for a very long time and I've still gotten the same battery. I've been keeping my eye on the awake bar on battery info, and the phone sleeps as it should, so I'm sure there aren't any rogue apps.
I am seeing this as well. I actually went back to stock to see if it was the ROM I was using. Seeing the same battery degradation on stock. Running MMB29Q with Feb security patch as you can see from screen shot. Wonder if Google is aware of this. Cannot be a coincidence.
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Haven't noticed this at all, I'm getting the exact same battery performance as I always have.
I haven't noticed any extra battery drain either.
I definitely noticed this myself.
I did a factory reset and it seems to have helped, but I've only tested it for one day since.
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Haven't noticed this at all, I'm getting the exact same battery performance as I always have.
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I'm with you. Same battery as previous factory image.
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I have bought this phone in the beginning of February and my battery experience is TERRIBLE. It drained 20% battery in 16h with 17 mins SOT. I'm extremely disappointed in this device. I tried Stock, chroma and Pure Nexus and even when 0 apps are installed my battery goes AWOL. Really this is a nightmare where I paid alot of money for this phone and it acts like a personal energy waste device.
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I have bought this phone in the beginning of February and my battery experience is TERRIBLE. It drained 20% battery in 16h with 17 mins SOT. I'm extremely disappointed in this device. I tried Stock, chroma and Pure Nexus and even when 0 apps are installed my battery goes AWOL. Really this is a nightmare where I paid alot of money for this phone and it acts like a personal energy waste device.
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1.2%/hr drain isn't great, but not bad either depending on reception/installed-apps/notification/etc
I'm running 6.0.1 feb patch. Get about 0.6%/hr screenoff drain, but I'm mostly on good wifi connection. If running around town on LTE i'd get some where around 1% screen off drain.
I've noticed that ever since the Feb security patch, the battery has drained a little faster than usual also, with no change in usage behavior.... Can someone please notify google about this?
I have not noticed anything different.
Running stock with ElementalX kernel.
I've been noticing the same thing. I used to be able to go for 4+hrs of screen on. Now, 3.5 is normal. I am on PureNexus, but I've not changed anything in the last month, after the update.
I bought the phone on 28th February. 30 minutes after arrive at home, flashed Cyanogen, and draining about 1% each minute with screen on.
Yesterday I flashed PureNexus and now reaches 3.5 hours with screen on. Way better, but still terrible.
I've noticed the same increased battery drain. I've been investigating the issue for weeks and didn't know what caused the issue until hitting this thread.
The February update introduced the SystemUpdateService wakelock on my 6P. It kept the phone awake 95% of the time and I couldn't get rid of it. I updated via fastboot with the factory images at the time. I flashed back to the January build and the wakelock disappeared. Flashed the February update again and SystemUpdateService wakelock came right back.
I didn't try a clean install with the February factory images to see if it would fix it. Maybe it would have, maybe not. I decided to give Pure Nexus a try after I couldn't fix it. I'm considering doing a clean install once the March update is released.
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Same battery issues as described for me.
I am glad to see that I am not the only one having a problem all of a sudden. I am running stock, but was about to root and run a custom ROM after becoming frustrated with the suddenly increased battery drain. I used to drop only three or 4% overnight, but now it is about 20%, with Google App being a prime user of battery even without OK Google being activated. Doze does not seem to be working as it did before. I am going to try shutting off Wi-Fi and Bluetooth at night to see if that makes a difference, but it never seemed to matter before leaving those on. Also, I do not see a way to automatically turn off push mail service at night or on a specific schedule as I could do with previous phones.
I'm glad. I thought I was the only one experiencing this.
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Interesting - I have noticed that the battery life has tanked on my 5X fairly recently (been using it for a few weeks - will try on the 6P next).
Presumed it was just a rogue app or something, although nothing seems to be causing excessive wake locks etc. It is hard to quantify though, so it could just be looking for a problem where there isn't one.
I'm doing a clean install on my Nexus 6P from the March security update factory images, should be able to see if the battery life I'm getting is similar to January as I have a fair idea of what percentage my phone was usually down to at the end of the day.
A clean install of 6.0.1 with Feb patch and only stock apps. It's been sitting on my bed since a full charge 5 days ago. Looks like the Feb patch is not having much of an impact on battery life.
So I had Nougat ever since it came out and used it a lot, but went back to Marshmallow a couple of days ago because of:
...Battery life. No matter what apps, settings, versions (B360, B380, B381), recommendations etc. - Battery life is simply better and more reliable on Marshmallow. Yes, I know, I did factory resets, downgrade, upgrade via OTA, deactivated this and that, pretty much everything you read on the threads here and elsewhere, it still couldn't catch up to Marshmallow. Don't get me wrong, battery life on Nougat is not terrible - I even convinced myself over the months that it is pretty much the same or even better, but that's simply just wishful thinking. As soon as I downgraded I could notice a significant improvement.
What do I mean by improvement? For once it is more reliable meaning I know what I get. On Nougat I had days where I got 3 hours SOT, then 4 or 5 on others. I had 2 percent stanby drain per hour, then 5, then 1 - it was just more random. On Marshmallow I always get pretty much the same. Stanby drain of 1 percent or less per hour and SOT of 6 or more hours (I'm at 3:40 SOT at the moment with 18 hours and 45 minutes since the last charge and exactly 50 percent battery left). So not only is it more reliable, it also gives me more SOT and lower standby drain.
Regarding the standby drain: When installing apps like ForceDoze on Marshmallow, it lets the device enter Deep Doze the minute I turn off the phone (meaning I often have deep doze rates of above 98%) which leads to little to almost no standby drain without losing any benefits (notifications still come through when added to the whitelist). Deep sleeps rates are also above 90 percent. With Nougat deeps sleep rates are only around 80 percent (given the same apps, settings etc.) and doze rates are much worse. Yes, I know all about light and deep doze, but light doze doesn't start until 5 minutes after the device is turned off (even with apps like ForceDoze) and those 5 minutes add up, especially if you are checking your device often. Also, it doesn't enter deep doze which arguably consumes less power until much later (often hours) and there is also no way I could change that with ForceDoze or Greenify. What's more, the ForceDoze setting of "ignore device movement" actually works on Marshmallow but didn't reliably work on Nougat meaning the deivce enters and stays in deep doze the minute you turn off your phone even if you are moving or driving etc. This made the difference between Marshmallow and Nougat even greater for me when driving or walking around town.
One additional thing I noticed. is that Android System and Kernel (Android OS) usage was higher on Nougat than on Marshmallow, which also worsened battery life on Nougat for me. Again, this could be reliably replicated with the same apps, settings etc.
Granted, everything else is pretty much better on Nougat (speed, UI, notification bar, lock-screen, security updates, additional features etc.), but if you value battery life above everyhing else (which I do), I still think Marshmallow is the best on the Honor 8 and, frankly, I don't see the point of updating to a newer version of Android if it doesn't come with at least the same battery life, as it is one of the most central features of a phone. I don't know and don't really care whether it's Nougat itself or Honor, I just hope that eventually (maybe with B38X or B39X), battery life will fully match that of Marshmallow. What do you guys think? What's your experience?
I never used MM longer than a day or two before upgrading to N, so I can't comment on which is better, but I can confirm that (with N) I've seen random days where the battery drain is unreal during standby, and other days when it hardly drains at all during standby. But ever since I performed a factory reset after upgrading to N, the drain has been very predictable. Standby drain is minimal and SOT is 6+ hrs. Hard for me to complain when I couldn't get that much SOT from the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact on KK, and that was a battery champ! I finally feel like I'm getting the newest features and great battery life at the same time.
You need a choice for people who never used MM in your pole to make it more accurate.
My wife just got her Honor 8 today. It's on Marshmallow. Mine is on the latest Nogat. Each update killed my battery life not significantly but noticably. I can relate to you wanting to downgrade.
While I never had an Honor 8 with Marshmallow, I was about to update her phone to the latest until I saw this thread and am glad I didn't. If Oreo fixes battery life issues, I'll happily update both our phones to it.
For her, this is her first Android and is coming from Apple. Last thing I wanna do is give her an excuse (battery life is a great one) to go back to Apple.
And the funny thing is....she doesn't care about the app tray like most of us Android users lol
Let's see how this pans out!
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My wife just got her Honor 8 today. It's on Marshmallow. Mine is on the latest Nogat. Each update killed my battery life not significantly but noticably. I can relate to you wanting to downgrade.
While I never had an Honor 8 with Marshmallow, I was about to update her phone to the latest until I saw this thread and am glad I didn't. If Oreo fixes battery life issues, I'll happily update both our phones to it.
For her, this is her first Android and is coming from Apple. Last thing I wanna do is give her an excuse (battery life is a great one) to go back to Apple.
And the funny thing is....she doesn't care about the app tray like most of us Android users lol
Let's see how this pans out!
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An older battery compared to a new one. One lasts longer, that's so crazy to think batteries might depreciate over time. ?
I bet you think you can kill your battery by leaving it plugged in too.
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An older battery compared to a new one. One lasts longer, that's so crazy to think batteries might depreciate over time. ?
I bet you think you can kill your battery by leaving it plugged in too.
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I like this guy.
Good to see there's still a few "passionate battery life" folks left on XDA.
I was almost starting to forget how good it felt to run into another one of you.
Keep hope alive my brother!
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Hi. I am still on Marshmallow and am constantly being asked to update to Nougat. I am reading the battery performance / on screen time i snot as good in Nougat as it was on Marshmallow. Can you share your experience? One of the reasons I needed this phone was for battery life and I don't want to lose that.
I think mine might be less on Nougat than MM. But, I'm using different apps lately that seem to keep the phone awake more frequently. I'm easily still getting 4-6 hours of screen time from 4:30am to 10:30pm and going to bed with 25-50% battery. Again, it depends on how I used the phone during the day.
Yes, it seems a little worse than MM, but I know I have apps since switching to Nougat that tend to wake the phone more frequently.
I'm definitely not complaining about the battery life on this phone. I often go 40 hours without charging.
So you mean even if there is a difference it is minimal?
Also, do you have the US version?
Yes, US. The longest I went was 3 full days without a charge. Something like Monday 4:30am to Wednesday 10:00pm. Just shy of 9 hours screen time I think.
The difference between MM and Nougat was very little. Honestly, the UI is much better in Nougat than MM. (granted, it still needs work) Positive Nougat UI changes outweigh the battery life change.
Look at it this way... How much use time do you need a day? You should be able to still get 5-8 hours easily depending on usage.
I feel its the same, I've not fully measured it but I'm still getting from 3 to 4 days of battery after Nougat. I mainly use the phone for receiving calls, whatsapp, instagram and twitter, actually Twitter is the app that I use the most.
Right now I have 75% left and still tells me it has 3days of battery left, so that still a great battery duration
Well. I'm on board now too. And you all are right: no noticeable differences at the moment, although I did wipe cache and all data via recovery after update. Liking this phone.
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I flashed the leaked Android Oreo OTA to my Verizon Galaxy S8 and am experiencing pretty terrible battery life. I'm getting about 2 1/2 hours of SoT which I find bad for 2018. Meanwhile, my Verizon LG V30 with Nougat is getting 5+ hours of SoT which drives me crazy. Any tips to improve? Also, how's your battery life with Oreo on your S8?
I haven't taken the dive for the Oreo beta based ROMs but have been following the threads and the consensus is that at present Oreo is no better than N, it actually seems to be a little worse for most, hence I'll wait for a while still before jumping to O, give it more time for fine tuning on the S8 by developers etc. just my opinion, plus I get 6 odd hours of SoT on my N custom ROM so I have no urgency to go to O until its more polished.
Terrible, i updated mine couple of weeks ago and noticed about this battery issue, it drains fast despite of disabling the likes of location, reducing the brightness, bluetooth. i informed samsung about it. Before i used it outside with a (-3 temperature since i live in Finland), it was fully charged 100%. I only used it NOT more than 5 minutes for videoing and taking pictures and that's it, i stayed outside for more than an hour. When i checked my battery it was 56% ! I know that cold temperature diminishes the battery performance but not to extent of that emptying the battery in half:
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Terrible, i updated mine couple of weeks ago and noticed about this battery issue, it drains fast despite of disabling the likes of location, reducing the brightness, bluetooth. i informed samsung about it. Before i used it outside with a (-3 temperature since i live in Finland), it was fully charged 100%. I only used it NOT more than 5 minutes for videoing and taking pictures and that's it, i stayed outside for more than an hour. When i checked my battery it was 56% ! I know that cold temperature diminishes the battery performance but not to extent of that emptying the battery in half:
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After I updated to Oreo I had horrible battery life as well... It one time dropped about 20% when the phone was resting with the screen off in the couch.
I disabled everything bixby related. Force closed, uninstalled updates, and disabled in every way possible.
Now I get decent battery life. I live in Sweden, we have -4°c today, and the phone worked just fine even outside. No significant battery drop.
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After I updated to Oreo I had horrible battery life as well... It one time dropped about 20% when the phone was resting with the screen off in the couch.
I disabled everything bixby related. Force closed, uninstalled updates, and disabled in every way possible.
Now I get decent battery life. I live in Sweden, we have -4°c today, and the phone worked just fine even outside. No significant battery drop.
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Is Android System percentage higher than normal? And what about screen on time on daily usage?
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Is Android System percentage higher than normal? And what about screen on time on daily usage?
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I haven't really measured it. But I got that fix update for the first CRAP update and I'm back to horrible battery life.
Hei,hello,hola,
I'm still struggling with my s8 battery life. Am I missing something to tweak. Can anyone give me more pointers to do. Help is more than appreciated.
Luukeri said:
Hei,hello,hola,
I'm still struggling with my s8 battery life. Am I missing something to tweak. Can anyone give me more pointers to do. Help is more than appreciated.
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you can try flash a custom kernel , are you using stock or custom rom ? which firmware?
I'm using the stock version. I'm not that tech expert to modify it although my phone is at developer version. Anything I can do more?
Thanks for your reply btw.
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