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Battery life, Screen on Time always = 3 hrs

Hi everyone,
I have got my Oneplus Two ever since last September. It is a great phone overall. However, one thing that's bugging me is the battery life. I admit I am a relatively heavy user, but I can only squeeze out about 3 hours of screen on time out of it.
I thought earlier, maybe it is the problem of Oxygen OS (it overheats like hell as well). Then I switched to CM13 roms. CM13 does not overheat at all and is smooth all the time. But the battery performance is still not ideal. I would say it's probably just 10% better than OOS..
Any ideas on this? I don't care about warranty and I am an engineer .. should I maybe try to replace the battery? I suspect the battery is dodgy after lots of overheating in the OOS..
Thanks for advice!! Cheers.

3 hours heavy use is pretty standard for the phone. The phone doesn't let the battery get to dangerous temps so I don't think that's the thing. Android has always had kinda poor battery life at least when it comes to standby times. I'm on Seraphs CM13 and it seems to have a decent power consumption, maybe give it a try?

Kirahvi said:
3 hours heavy use is pretty standard for the phone. The phone doesn't let the battery get to dangerous temps so I don't think that's the thing. Android has always had kinda poor battery life at least when it comes to standby times. I'm on Seraphs CM13 and it seems to have a decent power consumption, maybe give it a try?
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Thanks! I will try it out!

As Kirahvi said 3hrs are, more or less, normal for OOS 2.2.1 stock.. Now I'm using stock rom with boeffla (which allow underclock), Amplify and greenify.. and my SoT is about 5.30hrs!

3 hours is also the max I've ever gotten, though its usually a little less than that for me. I am a heavy user of my smartphones while I'm commuting on the train, because I have music on + constant screen on while surfing the web/facebook/twitter. And while I'm at work I have bluetooth connection to my Huawei watch to receive notifications throughout the day. Nowhere near the folks who managed to squeeze 4hrs - 6hrs SOT daily but overall still reasonable.
Battery life for me is the same on OOS and CM13. Standby time on marshmallow is a little better with the introduction of Doze, though it only works if your device is left stationary for a period of time.
I'd also like to point out that battery life is the same for me with or without the Facebook/FB Messenger app. Thats why I left them installed.

I got 4 hours if I tweaked the heck out of thing, reduced brightness and just managed power ad much as possible, but more often then not I was at 3.5 or less. I am using the Hydrogen beta and I get 4.5 without any effort and have even hit 5. You might try that too, I have tried ALL the CM13 ROMs it feels like, in fact I keep a backup of Seraphs nightlys as I like it so much better than hydrogen, but by far hydrogen gets the best battery life...and its not close.
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More than 4 hours is just because people read a lot on their phone, 6+ hours I think you can easily reach that lowering the brightness, under clocking, never turn off screen and just let phone idle don't even touch screen never
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I used daily ALARM and didn't use POWER SAVING MODE at all.
Running stock Kitkat latest firmware.

shahfaishal said:
I used daily ALARM and didn't use POWER SAVING MODE at all.
Running stock Kitkat latest firmware.
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Troll? That's ui is an touch wiz ui by Samsung.. [emoji22]
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my phone is approx 22months old.. so its not a troll!

Guys,what lot of people not really undarstanding,SOT its not really show you how is the battery,lot of else is playing in the background which is affecting your battery.
for example:
-celluar coverage(if you got less the perfect conennection its gonna drain your bettery,and no its doesnt matter how big city you living,more people,more house ,less coverage
-wifi (same as above,how good and stable your connection,as less the drain)
-kind of apps(which is more frequently sync,and connecting with gps ,those use more battery)
-How long is the phone without the charger(yes if you pull off the charger and living on the table always screen on ,using a bit and after 4h you uploding the stat,is it the same?? NO!)
Im living in central London with bad coverage,bad wifi connection all around,and from 9am till 1am I got around 3h SOT,which I think not bad with these condition.
So guys dont compare each other SOT ,couse every connections and condition is different.

Why I went back to Marshmallow (Answer: Battery Life)

So I had Nougat ever since it came out and used it a lot, but went back to Marshmallow a couple of days ago because of:
...Battery life. No matter what apps, settings, versions (B360, B380, B381), recommendations etc. - Battery life is simply better and more reliable on Marshmallow. Yes, I know, I did factory resets, downgrade, upgrade via OTA, deactivated this and that, pretty much everything you read on the threads here and elsewhere, it still couldn't catch up to Marshmallow. Don't get me wrong, battery life on Nougat is not terrible - I even convinced myself over the months that it is pretty much the same or even better, but that's simply just wishful thinking. As soon as I downgraded I could notice a significant improvement.
What do I mean by improvement? For once it is more reliable meaning I know what I get. On Nougat I had days where I got 3 hours SOT, then 4 or 5 on others. I had 2 percent stanby drain per hour, then 5, then 1 - it was just more random. On Marshmallow I always get pretty much the same. Stanby drain of 1 percent or less per hour and SOT of 6 or more hours (I'm at 3:40 SOT at the moment with 18 hours and 45 minutes since the last charge and exactly 50 percent battery left). So not only is it more reliable, it also gives me more SOT and lower standby drain.
Regarding the standby drain: When installing apps like ForceDoze on Marshmallow, it lets the device enter Deep Doze the minute I turn off the phone (meaning I often have deep doze rates of above 98%) which leads to little to almost no standby drain without losing any benefits (notifications still come through when added to the whitelist). Deep sleeps rates are also above 90 percent. With Nougat deeps sleep rates are only around 80 percent (given the same apps, settings etc.) and doze rates are much worse. Yes, I know all about light and deep doze, but light doze doesn't start until 5 minutes after the device is turned off (even with apps like ForceDoze) and those 5 minutes add up, especially if you are checking your device often. Also, it doesn't enter deep doze which arguably consumes less power until much later (often hours) and there is also no way I could change that with ForceDoze or Greenify. What's more, the ForceDoze setting of "ignore device movement" actually works on Marshmallow but didn't reliably work on Nougat meaning the deivce enters and stays in deep doze the minute you turn off your phone even if you are moving or driving etc. This made the difference between Marshmallow and Nougat even greater for me when driving or walking around town.
One additional thing I noticed. is that Android System and Kernel (Android OS) usage was higher on Nougat than on Marshmallow, which also worsened battery life on Nougat for me. Again, this could be reliably replicated with the same apps, settings etc.
Granted, everything else is pretty much better on Nougat (speed, UI, notification bar, lock-screen, security updates, additional features etc.), but if you value battery life above everyhing else (which I do), I still think Marshmallow is the best on the Honor 8 and, frankly, I don't see the point of updating to a newer version of Android if it doesn't come with at least the same battery life, as it is one of the most central features of a phone. I don't know and don't really care whether it's Nougat itself or Honor, I just hope that eventually (maybe with B38X or B39X), battery life will fully match that of Marshmallow. What do you guys think? What's your experience?

I never used MM longer than a day or two before upgrading to N, so I can't comment on which is better, but I can confirm that (with N) I've seen random days where the battery drain is unreal during standby, and other days when it hardly drains at all during standby. But ever since I performed a factory reset after upgrading to N, the drain has been very predictable. Standby drain is minimal and SOT is 6+ hrs. Hard for me to complain when I couldn't get that much SOT from the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact on KK, and that was a battery champ! I finally feel like I'm getting the newest features and great battery life at the same time.
You need a choice for people who never used MM in your pole to make it more accurate.

My wife just got her Honor 8 today. It's on Marshmallow. Mine is on the latest Nogat. Each update killed my battery life not significantly but noticably. I can relate to you wanting to downgrade.
While I never had an Honor 8 with Marshmallow, I was about to update her phone to the latest until I saw this thread and am glad I didn't. If Oreo fixes battery life issues, I'll happily update both our phones to it.
For her, this is her first Android and is coming from Apple. Last thing I wanna do is give her an excuse (battery life is a great one) to go back to Apple.
And the funny thing is....she doesn't care about the app tray like most of us Android users lol
Let's see how this pans out!

tiguy99 said:
My wife just got her Honor 8 today. It's on Marshmallow. Mine is on the latest Nogat. Each update killed my battery life not significantly but noticably. I can relate to you wanting to downgrade.
While I never had an Honor 8 with Marshmallow, I was about to update her phone to the latest until I saw this thread and am glad I didn't. If Oreo fixes battery life issues, I'll happily update both our phones to it.
For her, this is her first Android and is coming from Apple. Last thing I wanna do is give her an excuse (battery life is a great one) to go back to Apple.
And the funny thing is....she doesn't care about the app tray like most of us Android users lol
Let's see how this pans out!
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An older battery compared to a new one. One lasts longer, that's so crazy to think batteries might depreciate over time. ?
I bet you think you can kill your battery by leaving it plugged in too.

agraceful said:
An older battery compared to a new one. One lasts longer, that's so crazy to think batteries might depreciate over time. ?
I bet you think you can kill your battery by leaving it plugged in too.
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I like this guy.
Good to see there's still a few "passionate battery life" folks left on XDA.
I was almost starting to forget how good it felt to run into another one of you.
Keep hope alive my brother!
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Marshmallow vs. Nougat Battery Life

Hi. I am still on Marshmallow and am constantly being asked to update to Nougat. I am reading the battery performance / on screen time i snot as good in Nougat as it was on Marshmallow. Can you share your experience? One of the reasons I needed this phone was for battery life and I don't want to lose that.

I think mine might be less on Nougat than MM. But, I'm using different apps lately that seem to keep the phone awake more frequently. I'm easily still getting 4-6 hours of screen time from 4:30am to 10:30pm and going to bed with 25-50% battery. Again, it depends on how I used the phone during the day.
Yes, it seems a little worse than MM, but I know I have apps since switching to Nougat that tend to wake the phone more frequently.
I'm definitely not complaining about the battery life on this phone. I often go 40 hours without charging.

So you mean even if there is a difference it is minimal?
Also, do you have the US version?

Yes, US. The longest I went was 3 full days without a charge. Something like Monday 4:30am to Wednesday 10:00pm. Just shy of 9 hours screen time I think.
The difference between MM and Nougat was very little. Honestly, the UI is much better in Nougat than MM. (granted, it still needs work) Positive Nougat UI changes outweigh the battery life change.
Look at it this way... How much use time do you need a day? You should be able to still get 5-8 hours easily depending on usage.

I feel its the same, I've not fully measured it but I'm still getting from 3 to 4 days of battery after Nougat. I mainly use the phone for receiving calls, whatsapp, instagram and twitter, actually Twitter is the app that I use the most.
Right now I have 75% left and still tells me it has 3days of battery left, so that still a great battery duration

Well. I'm on board now too. And you all are right: no noticeable differences at the moment, although I did wipe cache and all data via recovery after update. Liking this phone.

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Any improvements in standby battery drain with Oreo ?

Hello,
I am an LG fan (mainly due to the always-on display and the reliable tap to wake/sleep functions which I find tremendously useful) and since the G7 was launched (too big of a phone and too small battery for my needs) I decided that the G6 may actually fit my needs better due to being smaller and having a bigger battery (and the perfectly flat screen of the G6 which allows me to use an invisible tempered glass protector).
But I'm worried about battery life, especially stand-by. I need a phone that lasts 2 days with like 2-3h of SOT (I don't use the phone much but I really need it to have low standby drain). From what I read until now, the standby drain is a bit of a hit and miss with the G6...
I was wondering if the new Oreo release brings any improvements in standby drain ? Does anyone have experience with it ?
Thanks !

Idle battery drain mainly depends on the apps you use and whether they sleep ok or misbehave. I can use my G6 for 2 days...

call me pessimistic, but i never had better battery life after my phone was updated to the next release of software. It could be partially because battery life was depleted after long period of waiting for updates. I can say that with Samsung S8 and Sony and HTC10, it was definitely a case. I do not expect miracle with G6 either.
will be happy if someone can show me otherwise

Has anyone with a Korean G6 that has actually been updated to Oreo noticed any changes in either battery life or standby battery drain. Quite a few people are hoping for improvements in standby battery drain as this was a known problem with Nougat 7.0. If you could also state how old your G6 is, as some peoples phones may be over a year old and be suffering from battery degradation. My 9 month old H870DS, set up how i want it, loses 20-25 percent of battery in 8 hours overnight. This phone must be charged daily overnight or topped up regularly.

Percy247 said:
Has anyone with a Korean G6 that has actually been updated to Oreo noticed any changes in either battery life or standby battery drain. Quite a few people are hoping for improvements in standby battery drain as this was a known problem with Nougat 7.0. If you could also state how old your G6 is, as some peoples phones may be over a year old and be suffering from battery degradation. My 9 month old H870DS, set up how i want it, loses 20-25 percent of battery in 8 hours overnight. This phone must be charged daily overnight or topped up regularly.
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You may have some bad apps. I never loose more than 3-5% over night with wifi on.

i have G600L from Korea, and i can assure that Oreo has not had any improvements on standby drain. Well the good thing is that it doesn't get any worse.

That has been my experience with other phones as well. Even if some new battery saving technique is built into the new OS, it is more than compensated for by the bloat of the new OS and updated apps, which have more services running in the background.
barcode99 said:
call me pessimistic, but i never had better battery life after my phone was updated to the next release of software. It could be partially because battery life was depleted after long period of waiting for updates. I can say that with Samsung S8 and Sony and HTC10, it was definitely a case. I do not expect miracle with G6 either.
will be happy if someone can show me otherwise
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Moldeb said:
Idle battery drain mainly depends on the apps you use and whether they sleep ok or misbehave. I can use my G6 for 2 days...
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On average, people in this forum have been reporting idle battery drain of 2-3% per hour. However there is quite a bit of variation both day to day in the same device and between devices. You have been one of the lucky ones, most likely having nothing to do with what apps or settings you do or don't use. 2 seperate threads have been devoted to dealing with the problem, but nothing consistently helps. Most likely either a hardware issue, like the radio cycling hi or low power, or something in Nougat that LG might or might not fix (according to the post above they did not...)
Regarding "misbehaving" apps-- basically almost every useful app has that potential, since so much functionality of the smartphone revolves around the ability to multitask or run in the background. So if you want to leave the phone with only stock apps, install nothing, and block all syncing, reminders or notifications, I'm sure you can modestly reduce the idle drain, but so what? It negates the whole point of the smartphone... I remember I could get a whole week out of my Nokia 3150 candybar phone
I'd be interested to learn which apps you have and what settings you changed.

I loose about 3% over night with WiFi, BT and location = high precision. I have and use many apps (>120) but most of them are productivity tools, VPN, etc. I use only ad free and many paid apps e.g. Maildroid pro for email. Maybe ad free is one of the reasons as I'll have less background activity. On the other hand my Voip client (Grandstream Wave) is always on and I still have no idle issue...

pham_dang said:
i have G600L from Korea, and i can assure that Oreo has not had any improvements on standby drain. Well the good thing is that it doesn't get any worse.
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Did you have problems with battery drain on Nougat? How much did you loose over night with Nougat, how much now with Oreo?

Krysdyan said:
Did you have problems with battery drain on Nougat? How much did you loose over night with Nougat, how much now with Oreo?
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I debloated pretty much every uneccessary app (i'd say 60-70 apps) when i was in nougat and so as in oreo. I've never experienced drastic battery drain on either version. I never leave wifi on when i go to bed, so I'd say I loose around 1% overnight (in nougat as well as oreo). So there u have it, don't expect to much from Oreo, you're not going to have an immense boost in terms of battery, nor in the overall perfomance of the phone. Still, I'm very with this phone

pham_dang said:
I debloated pretty much every uneccessary app (i'd say 60-70 apps) when i was in nougat and so as in oreo. I've never experienced drastic battery drain on either version. I never leave wifi on when i go to bed, so I'd say I loose around 1% overnight (in nougat as well as oreo). So there u have it, don't expect to much from Oreo, you're not going to have an immense boost in terms of battery, nor in the overall perfomance of the phone. Still, I'm very with this phone
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1% the whole night or 1% per hour ...?
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Moldeb said:
I loose about 3% over night with WiFi, BT and location = high precision. I have and use many apps (>120) but most of them are productivity tools, VPN, etc. I use only ad free and many paid apps e.g. Maildroid pro for email. Maybe ad free is one of the reasons as I'll have less background activity. On the other hand my Voip client (Grandstream Wave) is always on and I still have no idle issue...
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Interesting that there are such huge differences between users. I do have a few ad supported apps, maybe that explains part of the difference.

pham_dang said:
I debloated pretty much every uneccessary app (i'd say 60-70 apps) when i was in nougat and so as in oreo. I've never experienced drastic battery drain on either version. I never leave wifi on when i go to bed, so I'd say I loose around 1% overnight (in nougat as well as oreo). So there u have it, don't expect to much from Oreo, you're not going to have an immense boost in terms of battery, nor in the overall perfomance of the phone. Still, I'm very with this phone
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I loose around 5% with wifi on and have pretty good signal on wifi and mobile data. I listen to music for 30 minutes before sleeping with external bluetooth speakers. But BT is disabling automatically after that.

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1% the whole night or 1% per hour ...?
1% whole night
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Hello everyone! how do you reach certain levels of autonomy? I have a few apps on my smartphone and yet I dream of your values, how do you do it? do you have any special settings? have you run any particular command in ADB? I noticed that my phone is particularly slow on startup and once turned on (with 0 apps open) it has a use of RAM. more than 50%, is it normal?
thank you

pham_dang said:
jshames said:
1% the whole night or 1% per hour ...?
1% whole night
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Wow, that's a huge difference from 2-3% an hour....
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screen saver is the issue
setting-->display-->screen saver. Turn that off if you are still in andriod 7.0.
I did that after saw someone's post, and my one year old LG G6 back to normal battery condition. Now I can get 20% remain by 10PM at night, after start using it since 6AM, with regular web browering, gaming and video viewing.

jshames said:
pham_dang said:
Wow, that's a huge difference from 2-3% an hour....
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When I leave mine at 100% charge before going to bed at night, it's still at 100% the morning after. So, a 1% change the whole night is not bad (nor extra-ordinary).
I have my wifi and bluetooth always on. But I don't have the screen at "always on" setting. My email sync settings are on "smart" mode. Other installed apps which may run in the background are News app, GroupMe, My Data Manager, and NetGuard.
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laoxiaohai said:
setting-->display-->screen saver. Turn that off if you are still in andriod 7.0.
I did that after saw someone's post, and my one year old LG G6 back to normal battery condition. Now I can get 20% remain by 10PM at night, after start using it since 6AM, with regular web browering, gaming and video viewing.
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That's strange. That setting is supposed to apply only when the phone is plugged in

Percy247 said:
Has anyone with a Korean G6 that has actually been updated to Oreo noticed any changes in either battery life or standby battery drain. Quite a few people are hoping for improvements in standby battery drain as this was a known problem with Nougat 7.0. If you could also state how old your G6 is, as some peoples phones may be over a year old and be suffering from battery degradation. My 9 month old H870DS, set up how i want it, loses 20-25 percent of battery in 8 hours overnight. This phone must be charged daily overnight or topped up regularly.
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10 months old H870DS, HKG firmware, no battery degradation because with nougat I charged it at 1.5 to 2 days. 2 SIM cards standby, 4G networks, active use of the phone and I was getting around 3h SOT with a 20-24h standby. Now after Oreo I'm getting max 2.5, under 3h SOT with the same 24h standby. I did a factory reset after upgrading via LG Bridge, and did a upgrade with LG UP and kdz V20a - no change at all. I suppose that the system is draining more battery than it should under use.View attachment 4526726
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AOD huge battery drain

Hey guys.
So I noticed everyone here and anywhere else basically, complaining about the battery life on this phone after the MIUI 11 update so I used the debloater directly after getting the phone to have the best battery life possible.
Turned off all the suggested apps and services and I gotta say battery improved, but it wasn't what was promised by the phone's specs. I'm barely getting 4h SoT, without any heavy usage whatsoever, only social stuff.
The culprit for me as well has been the Android System, with over 40% drain every day. So I installed Accubatery to try and see what's happening with my battery, along with better battery stats.
What I found useful from the accubattery app is the permanent notification where it tells you, after a few seconds, how much mA will be drained in an hour of using the phone like the way you are using it at that moment. So I did a test. Had my phone on the home screen, doing nothing. After a few seconds the reading showed -180mA, which is awesome right? Then I locked my phone and left it at the always-on display for a minute or so. Unlocked it and the notification showed -980mA.
This is very VERY weird and I cannot find anything anywhere suggesting what anyone can do to combat this. I have more average battery drain when the screen is off than when the screen is on.
I have never reset my phone (and would like that to stay that way if possible) and the phone itself is a month old. It's really saddening to see other people are getting twice as much SoT.
Do you guys have any suggestions?

giorgos123 said:
Hey guys.
So I noticed everyone here and anywhere else basically, complaining about the battery life on this phone after the MIUI 11 update so I used the debloater directly after getting the phone to have the best battery life possible.
Turned off all the suggested apps and services and I gotta say battery improved, but it wasn't what was promised by the phone's specs. I'm barely getting 4h SoT, without any heavy usage whatsoever, only social stuff.
The culprit for me as well has been the Android System, with over 40% drain every day. So I installed Accubatery to try and see what's happening with my battery, along with better battery stats.
What I found useful from the accubattery app is the permanent notification where it tells you, after a few seconds, how much mA will be drained in an hour of using the phone like the way you are using it at that moment. So I did a test. Had my phone on the home screen, doing nothing. After a few seconds the reading showed -180mA, which is awesome right? Then I locked my phone and left it at the always-on display for a minute or so. Unlocked it and the notification showed -980mA.
This is very VERY weird and I cannot find anything anywhere suggesting what anyone can do to combat this. I have more average battery drain when the screen is off than when the screen is on.
I have never reset my phone (and would like that to stay that way if possible) and the phone itself is a month old. It's really saddening to see other people are getting twice as much SoT.
Do you guys have any suggestions?
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I was on Miui 11 for a few weeks and had ~8h SOT with AOD enabled all the time. Now I am on Pixel Experience and I have ~7.5h SOT without AOD so I am very satisfied with the battery life.
I advise you to wait for Miui 12, which will come very soon to the Mi 9T. Then everything will probably change again with the battery life...