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JB AOKP vs JB Leak

Whats actually better for performance? battery? smoothness?
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rommark said:
Whats actually better for performance? battery? smoothness?
Thanks!
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Battery is almost always better with stock, while AOKP seems a lot faster(no touchwiz to slow it down) and smoother. I for one have always been a fan of CM, but lately I have not really felt the urge to go over to CM, as the stock rom comes with a lot more features and is pretty smooth(enable GPU Rendering and HW Composer). The clock, camera, motion controls etc. makes it a lot more difficult to switch over these days, but one should always try it out for oneself before making up one's mind.

I agree, I wanted a phone I could put CM9 or CM10 on but all the Samsung goodies are compelling and I find myself waiting on the next stock leak and not interested in CMx at all.

i wish beats audio would work on JB

I agree with all of the above. I love CM and AOKP and their unique set of features and vanilla goodies, but Samsung have really done a number on the S3! I find myself flashing the latest leaks almost straight away. They've just included so many useful features into the OS that I've become reliant on that, while I certainly prefer the vanilla look and speed, I don't want to sacrifice such genuinely useful features for it.
Except S-Voice of course, Lloyd* only knows what convinced Samsung it was going to be of any use to anyone - didn't they try it for themselves first?
Mind boggling to say the least. I do have to say though, the latest AOKP build looks mighty interesting with its tablet UI feature - wonder if it's done in a similar way to ParanoidAndroid?
*Android Central reference :thumbup:
Sent from me, swiping my fingers across a piece of glass.

The jb leak dli8 is siper fast and smooth. no one aokp/aosp is better. 8/10 transitions are very smooth no crash or freeze at all. no tw redraw.
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CM/AOSP/AOKP roms are always very fast. I flash every kind of these Roms. It would be great port some apk files such as Music player, camera, clock, widgets to work on these roms.

Astore90 said:
The jb leak dli8 is siper fast and smooth. no one aokp/aosp is better. 8/10 transitions are very smooth no crash or freeze at all. no tw redraw.
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The latest experimental build from Codeworkx is definitely faster than stock dli8, and smoothness ia pretty much on par. Still a couple of bugs to iron out, but once it gets to a stable release I could see me switching over for good.

With SGS1 and 2 I used CM until ICS leaks come out, since then it is not worth the performance "difference", comparing with what we loose
First thing I do is install GO EX launcher and delete TW

Toss3 said:
The latest experimental build from Codeworkx is definitely faster than stock dli8, and smoothness ia pretty much on par. Still a couple of bugs to iron out, but once it gets to a stable release I could see me switching over for good.
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Where do I download Codeworkx ?
Can I upgrade Codeworkx over DLI8 without wipe?
Thanks!

TW launcher is and TW framework are different things. Deleting the seclauncher.apk and using go launcher does not make any difference over the whole rom.

rommark said:
Where do I download Codeworkx ?
Can I upgrade Codeworkx over DLI8 without wipe?
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It's available in the CM10 thread. I would advise you to read the instructions before flashing CM10, as it is not exactly like flashing a Samsung rom.

yken said:
TW launcher is and TW framework are different things. Deleting the seclauncher.apk and using go launcher does not make any difference over the whole rom.
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It does make all the difference, more costumizable, doesnt look like iPhone, etc :victory:

melorib said:
First thing I do is install GO EX launcher and delete TW
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I don't think you get how this works.

Toss3 said:
Battery is almost always better with stock, while AOKP seems a lot faster(no touchwiz to slow it down) and smoother. I for one have always been a fan of CM, but lately I have not really felt the urge to go over to CM, as the stock rom comes with a lot more features and is pretty smooth(enable GPU Rendering and HW Composer). The clock, camera, motion controls etc. makes it a lot more difficult to switch over these days, but one should always try it out for oneself before making up one's mind.
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Couldnt agree with you more. Every phone ive had has been flashed with CM... The gs2 benefits from it but i have to say it. Touchwizz and the features of the stock rom ie; pop out play, motion controls, smoothness etc.. There just isnt the need to switch for me.
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Im using Omega Rom which keeps all the touchwiz features i want but makes it better than stock. Best of Both!

irish-sid said:
I don't think you get how this works.
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TW only problem is the interface, before it might impair performanmce too, but now it is not relevant

Kangburra said:
I agree, I wanted a phone I could put CM9 or CM10 on but all the Samsung goodies are compelling and I find myself waiting on the next stock leak and not interested in CMx at all.
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That's why I love Vertimus and Domination Theme! Best of both worlds, for the most part. We just saw a post that said JB 1.3.1 will be showing up sometime this week.

If you want battery, I would recommand using the FoxHound Rom (0.5 now) with Siyah Kernel (included) plus the STweaks Hardcore3boost. That's what I did and my system is still very smooth.

hykhleif said:
i wish beats audio would work on JB
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Just turn the volume to Max,same with all EQ settings, fill your ears with ground glass and use the cheapest headphones you can find. Viola! The True Beats Experience.

How to fix lag with android 4.4.2 roms

As you all probably already know there is some serious lag regarding the drop down shade in pretty much every ROM. Over clocking the ROM or boosting your performance doesn't solve the lag. So after all these attempts I nearly gave up but have found a way to minimize the intensity of the drop down shade lag. Its a very simple fix in oder to do it you need a ROM that supports the cyanogen mod theme changer I recommend liquid smooth ROM. All you need to do is download the HTC one theme by thomassfaca from the play store true this isn't a proper fix and will take away from the stock experience of the ROM but i think its better than dealing with the terrible lag that KitKat has brought with the drop down shade
Here is the link to the play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.thomassafca.theme.htcsense
Hope this helps it has seemed to work for me if u don't want the HTC theme try another one but beware some make the lag worse this is the best I've found so far

And with xposed framework you may download a module to enable custom transitions or If u r using liquid smooth this feature is built in. Using custom transitions will further remove ui lag

i never had any lag with dropdown.

i noticed this too
i had CM10.2 on my htc incredible S with the laggy dropdown notification
then i applied an xperia theme and it went a lot smoother lol
magic.

Hellscythe said:
i noticed this too
i had CM10.2 on my htc incredible S with the laggy dropdown notification
then i applied an xperia theme and it went a lot smoother lol
magic.
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Yup that works well too but try gem cm11 theme it looks fantastic and as far as I can see it eliminates lag

thanks, got to try that

[Q] does the galaxy s4 really lags or is there a fix?

I am deciding on whether to buy an s4 or an xperia z1 ... I have watched gaming videos of the s4 and some games seem to lag (e.g. san andreas) while they work fine on the z1... And i read people complaining that the s4 is indeed laggy, not just games but in touchwiz and transition animations also.... are there fixes/updates that solve this 'lagginess' or is it still present till now?

lag in TW roms is a must...hehe, all TW roms lags, some lags more and some less, there will always be a tiny little of lag...sadly, about gaming its not TW problem, its more of optimizing the games for the cpu and gpu, if you look at galaxy s2 and s3 they plays gta sa without lag, but in S4 it lags a lot.....

is it the same thing on the exynos version? it's strange, galaxy s4 being the most popular smartphone at the time did not get optimized versions of games.

yes, its in every version, i my self have i9500 and even with TW custom roms it lags, cm based roms are a lot better in terms of speed, but they have some bugs so its not the best solution, miui rom is very good but they don't support it anymore, maybe later they will be back, i have TW based custom rom and i get angry when i want to use the phone quickly but don't have the needed speed......in the beginning of the next year i will be buying a new phone but its a bit of problem for me, i really want to have the NOTE 4, but i know that it will lag like the S4.....

I understand it lags in touchwiz interface but it does lag in games at well? the exynos version?

Lags
I got a S4 with a custom kernel. No lags so far, I got the International Variant, the GT-I9505 with the latest Firmware from Samsung. I debloated it by myself so maybe that could be the reason why it don't lags. My Ram is around 800MB when I use it normal. Greetings

it lags in games not because of TW, its because of bad optimization for the cpu and gpu....maybe if you flash cm based rom it will lag a bit less but still don't think for a second that its going to be smooth, its not only S4 problem, htc one m7 also have the same problem....and many more, for gaming you have to get an iphone......sadly....

hajyihia said:
it lags in games not because of TW, its because of bad optimization for the cpu and gpu....maybe if you flash cm based rom it will lag a bit less but still don't think for a second that its going to be smooth, its not only S4 problem, htc one m7 also have the same problem....and many more, for gaming you have to get an iphone......sadly....
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Use this Xposed module:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674928
This will probably fix your lag (only for TW). From what I read CM/AOSP roms also have better performance.
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I got a S4 with a custom kernel. No lags so far, I got the International Variant, the GT-I9505 with the latest Firmware from Samsung. I debloated it by myself so maybe that could be the reason why it don't lags. My Ram is around 800MB when I use it normal. Greetings
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No it's probably because you have a custom kernel where the tweak is already applied.

Lennyz1988 said:
Use this Xposed module:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674928
This will probably fix your lag (only for TW). From what I read CM/AOSP roms also have better performance.
No it's probably because you have a custom kernel where the tweak is already applied.
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Well than he can also flash a custom kernel. I can give him a link

No lag
I'm using stock 4.4.2 NG8 [open Europe] and there is no lag ever
lagged with me once but i found that an apk called [Galaxy Locker] causes this lag, the battery is kind of good and the overheating is almost fixed
while playing huge games Like [Modern Combat 5,Iron man, Assassin Creed Pirates] or even browsing.the max temperature my cell phone reached was 36.2 *C and it's great, while recharging it's only 31.2 *C

can't say much tw rom is full of bloatware..debloat the rom and you get smooth TW rom

major stuttering on MM?

So, i've been having some stuttering problems since the phone came. i know it's not a hardware related issue, because i can play some heavy games like nova or late game sim city (damn there's buildings ) and i just face some heatings, which i think is fine, especialy because of where i live. But for most apps (i.e. chrome, twitter, whatsapp... i didn't have it on facebook, and i don't have it on instagram, launcher, mail apps) i'm facing major stuttering, like a pc without proper gpu drivers. it just drags and cuts the screen around, it's so annoying. Is anyone facing a problem like this? workarounds?

yes i have this problem too(bad scrolling (some lag) ) , i hate when i scroll my Instagram feeds , anyone have a solution ?

I don't notice any lag but then again any phone is smooth compared to the LG G Flex 2 I am coming from.

Me too. This is really annoying. Even for chrome.

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I don't notice any lag but then again any phone is smooth compared to the LG G Flex 2 I am coming from.
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i don't experience lag neither, the overall experience is smooth, apps run faster than my finger can click, the phone is truly responsive. i'm talking about scrolling smoothness, reading through a page on chrome, scrolling instagram... those things are really sluggish.
Snapchat, gaming, typing, tweeting... everything else that doesn't require scrolling is smooth af.

i install acip and just wow it's amazing and smooth my phone is flying now i recommend to you to install ACIP then you can see huge difference .(all scroll is smoooooooth like a play on butter ) i loving my instagram better than ever
edit: rom is so smooth but i think it has some problems i'm testing it
sry for my en

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i install acip and just wow it's amazing and smooth my phone is flying now i recommend to you to install ACIP then you can see huge difference .(all scroll is smoooooooth like a play on butter ) i loving my instagram better than ever
edit: rom is so smooth but i think it has some problems i'm testing it
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What kind of problems? i'm thinking of a rom to avoid moto update bloat with those pesky wakelocks, but i can't find a rom that works on my br xt1572.

I didn't believe it at first, but I am too getting stuttery scrolling when using Chrome on stock ROM with stock kernel. I frequent a few sites a lot, and noticed it right away on them, even when cleared of ads. A supposed fix is to disable some apps' services turned on under Settings > Accessibility, but that fix is no good for me since I don't have anything set to on under there.
I would love to go back to Frankenclark, but we have to wait for Moto to push the update to GitHub.

There is definitely something wrong with stock MM & web browsing & I've noticed stuttering in animations all throughout the MM OS. I didn't experience any scrolling lag or OS stuttering when I tested Orion rom, I only experience this annoying problem when I'm using a stock rom or a stock-based rom regardless of kernel whether it be stock or otherwise.

Spastic, strangely I had a greenify thing under accessibility, unchecked that and (some of the) smoothness is now back... I mean, it's still stuttering, but way better than before. I need a cientific explaining about that lol.
Now I gotta found the next option to uncheck, so I can unlock full smoothness

Moto voice seems to cause a lot of these issues on mm

I've been complaining about the stutters and lag since MM was released and everyone said I was crazy! Even with a custom kernel you cannot completely rid the device of the stutters, but you can reduce them slightly. Stock Lollipop with the custom kernel that is available for LP was super smooth for me. All of the custom ROMs have the same stutters accept OrionOS. But it's severely lacking in features ATM.
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My suggestion is return to LP stock with that custom kernel, and be happy with it. The theme was the only thing I hated on LP, and MM could use layers to change the theme which was cool. But MM is just too laggy.

HikingMoose said:
I've been complaining about the stutters and lag since MM was released and everyone said I was crazy! Even with a custom kernel you cannot completely rid the device of the stutters, but you can reduce them slightly. Stock Lollipop with the custom kernel that is available for LP was super smooth for me. All of the custom ROMs have the same stutters accept OrionOS. But it's severely lacking in features ATM.
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My suggestion is return to LP stock with that custom kernel, and be happy with it. The theme was the only thing I hated on LP, and MM could use layers to change the theme which was cool. But MM is just too laggy.
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Ikr, every post I've seen you in, you were complaining about it, but I didn't had lag at first, so I think is some app or function that is causing this stutter. Everything is super smooth at first...

Yeah, I wiped and went to LP then took the update to MM, and didn't install anything, and it seemed better. I installed just Pandora, and it streamed fine. So one of my apps, or app data must be breaking my ability to stream music on stock MM. Maybe Gravity box.

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Yeah, I wiped and went to LP then took the update to MM, and didn't install anything, and it seemed better. I installed just Pandora, and it streamed fine. So one of my apps, or app data must be breaking my ability to stream music on stock MM. Maybe Gravity box.
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Are you currently in MM?
idk about you, but when i installer xposed, i faced major lag, sutter, 3~4 seconds to open apps, random fcs... i uninstalled gravity box and most of these issues were solved, but the lag was only solved after i completely removed xposed framework. Strangely, this has already happened to me with a Sony xperia X8, Galaxy nexus (maguro), and motorola defy. i'm never lucky with xposed. But with the nexus, most of the issues were solved by removing gravity box. i know a whole lot of people like too much gravity box and see it as a must have, but it has been the source of many issues i had in the past, since i've never make it work properly, i don't miss the customization.
Not saying GB is the root problem for your streaming issue, but i would avoid it.

guile50 said:
Are you currently in MM?
idk about you, but when i installer xposed, i faced major lag, sutter, 3~4 seconds to open apps, random fcs... i uninstalled gravity box and most of these issues were solved, but the lag was only solved after i completely removed xposed framework. Strangely, this has already happened to me with a Sony xperia X8, Galaxy nexus (maguro), and motorola defy. i'm never lucky with xposed. But with the nexus, most of the issues were solved by removing gravity box. i know a whole lot of people like too much gravity box and see it as a must have, but it has been the source of many issues i had in the past, since i've never make it work properly, i don't miss the customization.
Not saying GB is the root problem for your streaming issue, but i would avoid it.
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I'm not, I'm on custom ROMs now that they have working camera and flashlight and pentiful ROM options. But I would be interested in running MM with my full set up, and no Xposed to see if it works fine. Just sucks, because with LP I could use gravity box and it was still smooth.

fps lag

I'm experiencing famerate lag. Changing orientation, opening apps and transitions through the ui.
Anyone else is experiencing this? And if so you know what's causing it?
My device is encrypted.

ddaharu said:
I'm experiencing famerate lag. Changing orientation, opening apps and transitions through the ui.
Anyone else is experiencing this? And if so you know what's causing it?
My device is encrypted.
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Yep, its a serious problem with the OnePlus 5.
Animations, scrolling, everything is a mess on Oxygen OS, to the point where I have unlocked my bootloader to try non-OOS based ROMs.
This thing stutters more than my old S7 Edge, and the Note 8 is significantly smoother than this.
Awesome example of how poor OOS is currently:
Go into Pocket Casts, subscribe to a podcast, open your subscriptions, tap on a tile. The simple animation will stutter like crazy as it opens. Same with play store.
Scrolling is atrocious for such a high specced device. 8GB/SD835 means nothing if smoothness is the worst by far out of any android flagship.
I couldn't even get an answer out of OnePlus support if Oreo would fix things.

Yup, the overall is experience is kinda jittery and laggy, my iPhone 6 and even my Nexus 5 are way smoother.

I've found OOS to be a lot smoother with Blu Spark kernel but even then OOS is so unstable that several times out of nowhere some system wake lock would suddenly go wiggy and prevent the phone from going into Doze. It's happened on three different builds of OOS and it was a different wake lock each time and caused massive idle battery drain. I haven't found any way to fix it other than doing a clean flash of OOS and fresh install of my apps. OOS isn't stable enough to be the stock operating system on any Android phone, let alone a $600 one that advertises itself as a flagship killer.

Don't know what you talking about, I never see a single lag/stutter in my OP5 and actually like OOS even coming from Stock Android (Nexus 6P)

istrikerx said:
Yep, its a serious problem with the OnePlus 5.
Animations, scrolling, everything is a mess on Oxygen OS, to the point where I have unlocked my bootloader to try non-OOS based ROMs.
This thing stutters more than my old S7 Edge, and the Note 8 is significantly smoother than this.
Awesome example of how poor OOS is currently:
Go into Pocket Casts, subscribe to a podcast, open your subscriptions, tap on a tile. The simple animation will stutter like crazy as it opens. Same with play store.
Scrolling is atrocious for such a high specced device. 8GB/SD835 means nothing if smoothness is the worst by far out of any android flagship.
I couldn't even get an answer out of OnePlus support if Oreo would fix things.
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Extremely smooth and buttery in 4.5.13

Arny209 said:
Extremely smooth and buttery in 4.5.13
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istrikerx said:
Yep, its a serious problem with the OnePlus 5.
Animations, scrolling, everything is a mess on Oxygen OS, to the point where I have unlocked my bootloader to try non-OOS based ROMs.
This thing stutters more than my old S7 Edge, and the Note 8 is significantly smoother than this.
Awesome example of how poor OOS is currently:
Go into Pocket Casts, subscribe to a podcast, open your subscriptions, tap on a tile. The simple animation will stutter like crazy as it opens. Same with play store.
Scrolling is atrocious for such a high specced device. 8GB/SD835 means nothing if smoothness is the worst by far out of any android flagship.
I couldn't even get an answer out of OnePlus support if Oreo would fix things.
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Yeah, I don't know what's wrong with this phone. I also flashed to LineageOS to see how it would perform compared to OxygenOS, but have you noticed what I noticed? It's still Jitters bits. I have eventually got it smooth with tweaking the kernel settings around until it would scroll smooth. What has me confused is that it happened when I switched rom still, and even after trying a different kernel it still would stutters while scrolling.. so it has me really confused as to what the problem is.
My kernel setup is butter smooth in LineageOS, but only help OxygenOS a bit as it still slightly stutters. It's smooth in chrome, but certain apps like Instagram still stutters on OOS

ddaharu said:
I'm experiencing famerate lag. Changing orientation, opening apps and transitions through the ui.
Anyone else is experiencing this? And if so you know what's causing it?
My device is encrypted.
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yeah noticed this also on stock OOS. IDK whether this is just placeboo effect or not, but it feels much smoother now on my current set-up (xXx ROM + ElementalX Kernel)

Running stock oos with simple gx wouldn't be happier I actually came back from the non oos roms because I missed the smoothness and app opening animations from stock oos .... could you give me an example of UI jitters or where it occurs because I haven't run into any problems . Speaking of chrome smoothness scrolling could be better but I am fine in instagram Reddit (boost app) and wouldn't complain as per opening of play store is also smooth with opener game of apps from play store is fine as well .

tsukiyakie said:
yeah noticed this also on stock OOS. IDK whether this is just placeboo effect or not, but it feels much smoother now on my current set-up (xXx ROM + ElementalX Kernel)
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Ok so I uninstalled some apps and it's smooth more ?
This is lame because I installed a "million" apps on my 3t and this NEVER happened. But anyway
Do you have the elementalX app installed or did you just flash it?

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Running stock oos with simple gx wouldn't be happier I actually came back from the non oos roms because I missed the smoothness and app opening animations from stock oos .... could you give me an example of UI jitters or where it occurs because I haven't run into any problems . Speaking of chrome smoothness scrolling could be better but I am fine in instagram Reddit (boost app) and wouldn't complain as per opening of play store is also smooth with opener game of apps from play store is fine as well .
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Did a speed test after getting rid of some stuff and my OP5 running xXx Rom is faster than my bro 0P5 running stock.

ddaharu said:
Ok so I uninstalled some apps and it's smooth more ?
This is lame because I installed a "million" apps on my 3t and this NEVER happened. But anyway
Do you have the elementalX app installed or did you just flash it?
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I installed the app but just for display color tweaking. I leave the rest untouched. This is the smoothest kernel so far at least to me, our experience may differ tho.

tsukiyakie said:
I installed the app but just for display color tweaking. I leave the rest untouched. This is the smoothest kernel so far at least to me, our experience may differ tho.
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Ok I'll use it when xXx 4.2 is released. :highfive: