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major stuttering on MM?

So, i've been having some stuttering problems since the phone came. i know it's not a hardware related issue, because i can play some heavy games like nova or late game sim city (damn there's buildings ) and i just face some heatings, which i think is fine, especialy because of where i live. But for most apps (i.e. chrome, twitter, whatsapp... i didn't have it on facebook, and i don't have it on instagram, launcher, mail apps) i'm facing major stuttering, like a pc without proper gpu drivers. it just drags and cuts the screen around, it's so annoying. Is anyone facing a problem like this? workarounds?

yes i have this problem too(bad scrolling (some lag) ) , i hate when i scroll my Instagram feeds , anyone have a solution ?

I don't notice any lag but then again any phone is smooth compared to the LG G Flex 2 I am coming from.

Me too. This is really annoying. Even for chrome.

uh60james said:
I don't notice any lag but then again any phone is smooth compared to the LG G Flex 2 I am coming from.
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i don't experience lag neither, the overall experience is smooth, apps run faster than my finger can click, the phone is truly responsive. i'm talking about scrolling smoothness, reading through a page on chrome, scrolling instagram... those things are really sluggish.
Snapchat, gaming, typing, tweeting... everything else that doesn't require scrolling is smooth af.

i install acip and just wow it's amazing and smooth my phone is flying now i recommend to you to install ACIP then you can see huge difference .(all scroll is smoooooooth like a play on butter ) i loving my instagram better than ever
edit: rom is so smooth but i think it has some problems i'm testing it
sry for my en

max4wdc said:
i install acip and just wow it's amazing and smooth my phone is flying now i recommend to you to install ACIP then you can see huge difference .(all scroll is smoooooooth like a play on butter ) i loving my instagram better than ever
edit: rom is so smooth but i think it has some problems i'm testing it
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What kind of problems? i'm thinking of a rom to avoid moto update bloat with those pesky wakelocks, but i can't find a rom that works on my br xt1572.

I didn't believe it at first, but I am too getting stuttery scrolling when using Chrome on stock ROM with stock kernel. I frequent a few sites a lot, and noticed it right away on them, even when cleared of ads. A supposed fix is to disable some apps' services turned on under Settings > Accessibility, but that fix is no good for me since I don't have anything set to on under there.
I would love to go back to Frankenclark, but we have to wait for Moto to push the update to GitHub.

There is definitely something wrong with stock MM & web browsing & I've noticed stuttering in animations all throughout the MM OS. I didn't experience any scrolling lag or OS stuttering when I tested Orion rom, I only experience this annoying problem when I'm using a stock rom or a stock-based rom regardless of kernel whether it be stock or otherwise.

Spastic, strangely I had a greenify thing under accessibility, unchecked that and (some of the) smoothness is now back... I mean, it's still stuttering, but way better than before. I need a cientific explaining about that lol.
Now I gotta found the next option to uncheck, so I can unlock full smoothness

Moto voice seems to cause a lot of these issues on mm

I've been complaining about the stutters and lag since MM was released and everyone said I was crazy! Even with a custom kernel you cannot completely rid the device of the stutters, but you can reduce them slightly. Stock Lollipop with the custom kernel that is available for LP was super smooth for me. All of the custom ROMs have the same stutters accept OrionOS. But it's severely lacking in features ATM.
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My suggestion is return to LP stock with that custom kernel, and be happy with it. The theme was the only thing I hated on LP, and MM could use layers to change the theme which was cool. But MM is just too laggy.

HikingMoose said:
I've been complaining about the stutters and lag since MM was released and everyone said I was crazy! Even with a custom kernel you cannot completely rid the device of the stutters, but you can reduce them slightly. Stock Lollipop with the custom kernel that is available for LP was super smooth for me. All of the custom ROMs have the same stutters accept OrionOS. But it's severely lacking in features ATM.
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My suggestion is return to LP stock with that custom kernel, and be happy with it. The theme was the only thing I hated on LP, and MM could use layers to change the theme which was cool. But MM is just too laggy.
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Ikr, every post I've seen you in, you were complaining about it, but I didn't had lag at first, so I think is some app or function that is causing this stutter. Everything is super smooth at first...

Yeah, I wiped and went to LP then took the update to MM, and didn't install anything, and it seemed better. I installed just Pandora, and it streamed fine. So one of my apps, or app data must be breaking my ability to stream music on stock MM. Maybe Gravity box.

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Yeah, I wiped and went to LP then took the update to MM, and didn't install anything, and it seemed better. I installed just Pandora, and it streamed fine. So one of my apps, or app data must be breaking my ability to stream music on stock MM. Maybe Gravity box.
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Are you currently in MM?
idk about you, but when i installer xposed, i faced major lag, sutter, 3~4 seconds to open apps, random fcs... i uninstalled gravity box and most of these issues were solved, but the lag was only solved after i completely removed xposed framework. Strangely, this has already happened to me with a Sony xperia X8, Galaxy nexus (maguro), and motorola defy. i'm never lucky with xposed. But with the nexus, most of the issues were solved by removing gravity box. i know a whole lot of people like too much gravity box and see it as a must have, but it has been the source of many issues i had in the past, since i've never make it work properly, i don't miss the customization.
Not saying GB is the root problem for your streaming issue, but i would avoid it.

guile50 said:
Are you currently in MM?
idk about you, but when i installer xposed, i faced major lag, sutter, 3~4 seconds to open apps, random fcs... i uninstalled gravity box and most of these issues were solved, but the lag was only solved after i completely removed xposed framework. Strangely, this has already happened to me with a Sony xperia X8, Galaxy nexus (maguro), and motorola defy. i'm never lucky with xposed. But with the nexus, most of the issues were solved by removing gravity box. i know a whole lot of people like too much gravity box and see it as a must have, but it has been the source of many issues i had in the past, since i've never make it work properly, i don't miss the customization.
Not saying GB is the root problem for your streaming issue, but i would avoid it.
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I'm not, I'm on custom ROMs now that they have working camera and flashlight and pentiful ROM options. But I would be interested in running MM with my full set up, and no Xposed to see if it works fine. Just sucks, because with LP I could use gravity box and it was still smooth.

Frustrating Lag Issues

So, I brought this phone two months ago, and have been using it since. However, I find it not very fun to use as there's always frustrating amounts of lag. (Especially in the UI)
On stock 6.0, the UI is a tad bit laggy, but bearable. However, games stutter. On the other hand, running stock 7.0, the UI is horrendously laggy, while games run fine.
I've tried every custom ROM that I could, but this device still seems to be very laggy when it comes to using it, almost to the point of being completely unusable. I do not leave apps open, and clear the cache often, so I don't know what the issue is. It's too late to return it now, too.
Anything I could do to make my phone usable?
This is disappointing, as even my old Moto E ran faster than this phone.

Gimzie said:
So, I brought this phone two months ago, and have been using it since. However, I find it not very fun to use as there's always frustrating amounts of lag. (Especially in the UI)
On stock 6.0, the UI is a tad bit laggy, but bearable. However, games stutter. On the other hand, running stock 7.0, the UI is horrendously laggy, while games run fine.
I've tried every custom ROM that I could, but this device still seems to be very laggy when it comes to using it, almost to the point of being completely unusable. I do not leave apps open, and clear the cache often, so I don't know what the issue is. It's too late to return it now, too.
Anything I could do to make my phone usable?
This is disappointing, as even my old Moto E ran faster than this phone.
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What defines lag in your book? Sure, there are a couple micro stutters when pulling the notification shade or switching apps, but lag is generally nonexistent. If you've come from a Pixel, S7, 6P, OP3, etc., then yeah, there's definitely a massive difference.
Also, it's definitely possible that your touchscreen may have issues as well.
Finally, I recommend the following ROMs (I've tried nearly all the ROMs here on XDA) for smoothness/battery:
- Beanstalk 7.1.2
- AOSP-CAF (discontinued but still very good)
- JX's Creampie (stock with mods)

negusp said:
What defines lag in your book? Sure, there are a couple micro stutters when pulling the notification shade or switching apps, but lag is generally nonexistent. If you've come from a Pixel, S7, 6P, OP3, etc., then yeah, there's definitely a massive difference.
Also, it's definitely possible that your touchscreen may have issues as well.
Finally, I recommend the following ROMs (I've tried nearly all the ROMs here on XDA) for smoothness/battery:
- Beanstalk 7.1.2
- AOSP-CAF (discontinued but still very good)
- JX's Creampie (stock with mods)
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The lag is mostly long UI stutters, but sometimes it gets really bad, especially on Lineage OS based roms. I have a feeling it's something related to single handed mode, though. I might try beanstalk soon.

Gimzie said:
The lag is mostly long UI stutters, but sometimes it gets really bad, especially on Lineage OS based roms. I have a feeling it's something related to single handed mode, though. I might try beanstalk soon.
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I've recently installed Lineage on my brand new G4, and I honestly think the phone was better off on stock 7.0, as opposed to the custom rom. I'll agree i think the phone i just a bit stuttery/laggy at times.

I managed to make stock a lot faster by removing Greenify. Battery life seems to be better as well.
The problem does still stick around in Lineage-based roms, and I feel like One-handed mode causes this, since you can't turn it off.
EDIT: I prefer having root and all that.

Gimzie said:
I managed to make stock a lot faster by removing Greenify. Battery life seems to be better as well.
The problem does still stick around in Lineage-based roms, and I feel like One-handed mode causes this, since you can't turn it off.
EDIT: I prefer having root and all that.
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Just found your post after searching for stutter in connection with one-handed mode. I only recently bought the G4 Plus as a temporary replacement for my broken Pixel and was a bit frustrated. I felt the G4 was quite stuttery, even tried a standard G5 in a store yesterday and thought "wow, that is a lot smoother.. well it just seems the G4 is a bit more stuttery. Today i compared it to my sisters G4 Plus, which was a lot smoother. You could really see the difference in scrolling and i thought it must be the digitizer or something. So before repackaging to return it to Amazon i tried a factory reset, voila, stutter gone. I tried activating one-haded mode again -> stutter. Deactivate one-handed mode -> stutter gone. So i guess that's the cause.

Disable any night-light app/setting and UI will run fine

Johann0109 said:
Disable any night-light app/setting and UI will run fine
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It was (reproducible if i activate/deactivate it) actually the one-handed mode, but thanks anyways!

Framedrops and stutter everywhere - How do I fix this?

So, got my phone since monday now and I cant help but to find little framedrops and stutters all over the place, all the time... well, what would you guys do to fix this? Any settings to be changed or perhaps a custom kernel? My Nexus 5 runs way smoother, my iPhone 6, just something I wouldnt expect from an SD835 phone.. therefore, where is the issue and how should I approach this?
(Not talking about the annoying Jello.. thats an whole other problem )

I think you got an s8 by mistake???? i have an s8 and that ishh stutters like a mofooo!???
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Just tested on a normal S8 and it drops like crazy too !! LOL
WTF!

jvidia said:
Just tested on a normal S8 and it drops like crazy too !! LOL
WTF!
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"Wtf" you are surprised the s8 stutters? ???? come on, it's Samsung we should know this by now
@OP. Are you seeing this through something like gpu rendering?
I would recommend clearing your caches, dalvik and cache. That was causing textra to constantly crash for me on this phone and my z play. If that doesn't work, try a factory reset, if not, get a replacement as you likely have a bad unit. I've had no lags or stutters even while in power saving mode..
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Chrizzter said:
So, got my phone since monday now and I cant help but to find little framedrops and stutters all over the place, all the time... well, what would you guys do to fix this? Any settings to be changed or perhaps a custom kernel? My Nexus 5 runs way smoother, my iPhone 6, just something I wouldnt expect from an SD835 phone.. therefore, where is the issue and how should I approach this?
(Not talking about the annoying Jello.. thats an whole other problem )
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I have it too and it is ****ing annoying as all hell. Damn near chucked my phone out the window.

Chrizzter said:
... My Nexus 5 runs way smoothe...
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I came from a Nexus 5 to the OP5 and the OP5 is blazing fast compared to my previous phone. In all likelihood this problem is caused by an app which you have loaded. Don't compound the confusion by rushing to a different ROM or kernel. OOS is almost pure AOSP so you'll not likely get an improvement. Most of the custom kernels make changes to squeeze out battery life not speed things up which sucks battery life.
As you just got the phone you could do a factory reset including user data then test the pure experience to make sure the "stutters" aren't there then slowly add your apps and re-test until you identify the app(s) that are impacting this liquid smooth device.
If you don't believe me then check the OP5 YouTube reviews which always mention how fast the OP5 is with OOS and the 835 processor.

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I came from a Nexus 5 to the OP5 and the OP5 is blazing fast compared to my previous phone. In all likelihood this problem is caused by an app which you have loaded. Don't compound the confusion by rushing to a different ROM or kernel. OOS is almost pure AOSP so you'll not likely get an improvement. Most of the custom kernels make changes to squeeze out battery life not speed things up which sucks battery life.
As you just got the phone you could do a factory reset including user data then test the pure experience to make sure the "stutters" aren't there then slowly add your apps and re-test until you identify the app(s) that are impacting this liquid smooth device.
If you don't believe me then check the OP5 YouTube reviews which always mention how fast the OP5 is with OOS and the 835 processor.
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I'm not saying it isn't fast but the jelly effect and micro stutters make the scrolling a pain. Also it happens everywhere not just in browsers and such.

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I'm not saying it isn't fast but the jelly effect and micro stutters make the scrolling a pain. Also it happens everywhere not just in browsers and such.
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It has been commented many times that the jelly effect is only seen by some people and not others. Luckily for me I've not one of those unfortunates. As for micro stutters I've no idea what your talking about as I've not seen that either.
I did use my Nexus 5 to get an old app off it and that is where I was really shocked at how slow the N5 was compared to my OP5. Like so much of tech a good amount of what a person feels about a device is personal perception. You seem to be sensitive to things other are not as overall the reviewers and most of the owners talk glowingly about the lack of issues as you describe especially compared to the big flag ships such as the Galaxy S8, 8+ and Note 8 that costs significantly more. I've seen YouTube videos of side by side speed and battery tests with these top brands and the OP5 smokes them.

I can definitely see the micro stutters and frame drops here and there as well on the stock 4.5.14 ROM and kernel. I'm not saying its not fast (it is) but its not 60fps all the time like how a Pixel is. For context I was using a Pixel and S8+ before this.
As of right now, I'm using the OP5 with the RenderZenith kernel (an EAS kernel). As far as I can tell its now behaving similarly to my previous Pixel with noticeably fewer frame drops.

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I can definitely see the micro stutters and frame drops here and there as well on the stock 4.5.14 ROM and kernel. I'm not saying its not fast (it is) but its not 60fps all the time like how a Pixel is. For context I was using a Pixel and S8+ before this.
As of right now, I'm using the OP5 with the RenderZenith kernel (an EAS kernel). As far as I can tell its now behaving similarly to my previous Pixel with noticeably fewer frame drops.
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you are the first what I see that he wrote such a negative experience for the Oneplus 5. According to me, this is the racket even the stock visual style. If you find a suitable combination of ROM, kernel, then the OP5 is "Stalin organ"

Oreo 64 bits based roms lag

Hi, does anyone have the problem that when you're in a 64 bit ROM like Pixel Experience or Xperience and you have lag? Like when you activate night light without activating ? Any solution? Thanks
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If you're talking about lag in system, yes, lots of us are facing it. I think only 2gb models have this trouble.

The system is struggling because of the lack of RAM. 64bit requires at least 3-4GB of RAM to be decent. I run x64 on mine, and the only time I ever really see any issues is when its night time, almost like its a memory leak. I reboot, and its fine for another 24 hours before it becomes unusable. I am running Pixel Experience.

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The system is struggling because of the lack of RAM. 64bit requires at least 3-4GB of RAM to be decent. I run x64 on mine, and the only time I ever really see any issues is when its night time, almost like its a memory leak. I reboot, and its fine for another 24 hours before it becomes unusable. I am running Pixel Experience.
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The lag is NOT because of the lack of RAM, rather it's optimisation. The Nexus 5x run 64bit ROMS just fine. That phone came out in 2015 with 2GB of RAM and shipped with 64bit marshmallow and happily runs anything above that.

I have a XT1622, system was using 0,7~1,1GB of RAM so there was plenty of RAM to be used. There was approximately 400MB free all time. I don't think RAM is the problem. After some CPU testing at AICP I reduced the lag by changing the Governor to Performance, which uses A LOT of battery, but it didn't get rid of the lag just made it smoother.
Obs: The lag that I'm talking about is only System lag and it's weird because when the screen is locked and you pull the quick settings it's smooth but after you unlock the phone, you pull the quick settings and there's a crazy lag. It's like playing a game with 10FPS.

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Obs: The lag that I'm talking about is only System lag and it's weird because when the screen is locked and you pull the quick settings it's smooth but after you unlock the phone, you pull the quick settings and there's a crazy lag. It's like playing a game with 10FPS.
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This is why I think it's an optimisation problem rather than a hardware issue. Apps and games are smoother than nougat for me but the recents menu, notification area (When unlocked) and launcher lag like crazy and I have no idea why.

DECHTECH said:
This is why I think it's an optimisation problem rather than a hardware issue. Apps and games are smoother than nougat for me but the recents menu, notification area (When unlocked) and launcher lag like crazy and I have no idea why.
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Hello again, since my last post I've been using Stock 7.0 + ElementalX Kernel + Magisk + Xposed + Gravity Box. Super smooth and shiet but I like theming and customising fonts, so yesterday I tested AICP 8.1 and I felt some improvements, the RAM usage was better (700MB System), the lag wasn't gone but it felt smoother. Now I'm on RR 7.1.2. I'm facing some random reboots but I'll try to grab some logs to dev. If I don't get rid of those reboots I'll jump to AICP and deal with the lag.

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Hello again, since my last post I've been using Stock 7.0 + ElementalX Kernel + Magisk + Xposed + Gravity Box. Super smooth and shiet but I like theming and customising fonts, so yesterday I tested AICP 8.1 and I felt some improvements, the RAM usage was better (700MB System), the lag wasn't gone but it felt smoother. Now I'm on RR 7.1.2. I'm facing some random reboots but I'll try to grab some logs to dev. If I don't get rid of those reboots I'll jump to AICP and deal with the lag.
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Just for information: don't post logs with the mods you mentioned here. Logs are only useful to troubleshoot if your rom is installed without any modifications.

GCSortes said:
Hello again, since my last post I've been using Stock 7.0 + ElementalX Kernel + Magisk + Xposed + Gravity Box. Super smooth and shiet but I like theming and customising fonts, so yesterday I tested AICP 8.1 and I felt some improvements, the RAM usage was better (700MB System), the lag wasn't gone but it felt smoother. Now I'm on RR 7.1.2. I'm facing some random reboots but I'll try to grab some logs to dev. If I don't get rid of those reboots I'll jump to AICP and deal with the lag.
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Try AICP nougat if you want a smooth, stable experience.

Since there are no manufacturer drivers (blobs) for 64 bit, just ported form other devices, the x64 is a poor choice for this phone.

SoNic67 said:
Since there are no manufacturer drivers (blobs) for 64 bit, just ported form other devices, the x64 is a poor choice for this phone.
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"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should."

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Try AICP nougat if you want a smooth, stable experience.
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:good:

I think that it's a optimisation problem, cuz I'm on aicp, is so smooth and battery life is so good.

Small lag after MIUI 11 update

I had my phone since last Sunday, it came with MIUI 10.3.12 and it was super snappy, after the update it still feels snappy, but the fingerprint unlock animation tends to lag and multitasking animation from home screen lags as well, everywhere else feels snappy like always, just those 2 things that really annoys me.
I experimented with reinstalling the MIUI 11 update "Download lastest package" but it made the matter worse. I have the Mi 9T and it currently have Miui 11.0.3.0 Stable Global.

This lags are like the battery drain. Some people suffer others don't. But I'm having those lags in many apps. Uninstall certain apps and see no more lags. Will see.

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This lags are like the battery drain. Some people suffer others don't. But I'm having those lags in many apps. Uninstall certain apps and see no more lags. Will see.
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Like what apps? I tried a factory reset but nothing, it did went back when I updated it but still lag... I feel like unlocking the bootloader, downgrade to Miui 10, relock it and wait if Android 10 improves something.

Just an app that was supposed to improve the overall phone. Used to work in after stable releases.

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Just an app that was supposed to improve the overall phone. Used to work in after stable releases.
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i don´t think that the case since i had the same apps i used on miui 10. and it was working fine. torrent, blockada,adaway, whatsapp+, gbinstagram. magisk

In my case, I'm just going to wait 1 week for unlocking the bootloader and roll back to Miui 10 or maybe try a custom rom... Unless the Android 10 comes by (For now, it's only available in China).