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I ask everyone who has a device from Samsung company not to close the tab and read to the end of this post.
I'll start with the prehistory. My first Android-tablet was Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7. I was incredibly happy because it was a unique device. Screen, build quality, metal, processor and capacious battery. I could not get enough of. I bought it for $ 721. it was in June of last year, I must say he has a birthday coming up.
And just a month later I got an update ice cream sandwich. It was the best firmware, and no matter what that summer, Google released a jelly bean.
Time passed, and Samsung is not going to renew our wonderful tablet to the latest version of android. I was waiting for. My patience ran out in March 2013.
March 7 I began to send in the forums with the topic of the samsung galaxy tab 7.7 messages with calls about the attack of the official pages of Samsung in social networks messages such as "We want Jelly Bean for Galaxy Tab 7.7!!!".
We are bombarded official page Samsung USA, Samsung and Thailand. I want to believe that they have heard our cries and dissatisfaction. And 29 days ago, Samsung launched the upgrade to Jelly Bean for Thailand. And that's it. certainly present in the firmware English language, but what about those who live in the countries of the CIS? Those who know neither Thai nor English language. The same China and Japan!
29 days have passed. and no region except Thailand did not get updated until now. I wrote about this in support of Samsung, the country where I live (Ukraine), but I was told that there is no information about the update, and until.
So my dear friends, and just those who are indifferent to our problem, and in general the problem of updating all Samsung devices, I urge you to attack samsunga page on facebook and other social networks. I think it will suit us more than the banner of
"I hate samsung for that instead of an update for my device, it produces a copy of it with a modified design !!!."
official Samsung Support page on Facebook
official Samsung Thailand page
Samsung Mobile Thailand
I will be grateful for the repost of this topic in any topics on xda/social networks
Thanks All
OK. You have taken the trouble to write this and I have taken the trouble to read it.
My own criticism of Samsung lies in the slowness of the update to the latest versions of Android in the first instance. But Samsung are not alone in this regard, that is not an excuse as such but it is a reality of owning an Android device. That is, outside of a Nexus, I hasten to add to ward off those of a pedantic disposition.
Secondly that this tardy update is exacerbated by the long drawn out releases for each territory's firmware. This was an overall nine month process in the case of Ice Cream Sandwich v4.0.4.
Nonetheless, Samsung did come through and now has released the initial firmwares for Jelly Bean 4.1.2 with, presumably, the remaining territories to follow in due course.
To repeat this fact for emphasis, Samsung has released JB for our devices. I should know, I am running the Singapore version on my Netherlands Tab.
Looking at the state of Android fragmentation generally, I have to content myself with gratitude and applaud Samsung for not forgetting about us. However late in the day this might be. In my opinion it is churlish to whinge in the manner of your post. Lack of patience is a personal failing and so is an inflated sense of personal entitlement. Why look to transfer these personal shortcomings as being Samsung's responsibility?
As for your slogan "I hate samsung for that instead of an update for my device, it produces a copy of it with a modified design !!!." Sorry but I don't understand it, it is doesn't make sense to me and certainly I will not hate Samsung. I would respectfully suggest that you reconsider this effort and phrase your concerns in more positive, constructive and helpful sentiments. Attacking, hating and bombarding are not tactics that I would ever employ.
So there is no way that I will be party to such a petition. Other opinions may vary of course.
Still waiting for ANY kind of official JB support for the P6810 model. Although I blame them, don't hate them for it though.
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I can only say this.. ..
Patience is virtue.. ..
I waited 3-4 months for JB after it first came out.... Now after its available for P6800... amazingly I'm still on ICS...
If you so desperately need JB and don't understand Thai or English, have this resource pages translated in Google.
You'll find instructions to upgrade via Mobile ODIN, using the Thai or Singapore versions.
Then, do the same to download and activate the specific language you need.
I am already running JB with the SIngapore version and Portuguese language pack on a device bought in the Netherlands.
It is not cool to point out Samsung tardiness, while not doing all you can do to solve your problem.
I should also point out that, if you want to be a tech enthusiasts as we all are and a "must have the latest" kind of enthusiast, as you seem to be, you really should find a way of learning English, or you'll be continuously frustrated.
Just a thought...
XK
The USA has another reason: Most 7.7 are locked to Verizon. I felt fortunate to receive ICS. Samsung will point to Verizon and say it's up to Verizon and Verizon will say...
XDAKhan said:
If you so desperately need JB and don't understand Thai or English, have this resource pages translated in Google.
You'll find instructions to upgrade via Mobile ODIN, using the Thai or Singapore versions.
Then, do the same to download and activate the specific language you need.
I am already running JB with the SIngapore version and Portuguese language pack on a device bought in the Netherlands.
It is not cool to point out Samsung tardiness, while not doing all you can do to solve your problem.
I should also point out that, if you want to be a tech enthusiasts as we all are and a "must have the latest" kind of enthusiast, as you seem to be, you really should find a way of learning English, or you'll be continuously frustrated.
Just a thought...
XK
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The problem is, people shouldnt have to do all this to get jb for their mobile devices.
It's not just a Samsung problem. Sony too is dragging their feet with the updates. The real issue is android. Instead of a different version for each region, it should be a universal update. And a language pack should be available for download via google play.
I can see why Samsung decided to test out tizen. Although it would be a lot easier to stick with windows....
And samsung should stick to making devices.
vbx said:
The problem is, people shouldnt have to do all this to get jb for their mobile devices.
It's not just a Samsung problem. Sony too is dragging their feet with the updates. The real issue is android. Instead of a different version for each region, it should be a universal update. And a language pack should be available for download via google play.
I can see why Samsung decided to test out tizen. Although it would be a lot easier to stick with windows....
And samsung should stick to making devices.
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Agreed.
Mentioned nearly the same thing in past threads, although I still believe is fully Samsung. Not too difficult for THEM to compile P6810 JB firmware after (Asia) already releasing it for its brother. Maybe they over comitt themselves with too great a range of products, and those products that sell volume have much greater priority?
As you said, language packs are the way to go
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vbx said:
The problem is, people shouldnt have to do all this to get jb for their mobile devices.
It's not just a Samsung problem. Sony too is dragging their feet with the updates. The real issue is android. Instead of a different version for each region, it should be a universal update. And a language pack should be available for download via google play.
I can see why Samsung decided to test out tizen. Although it would be a lot easier to stick with windows....
And samsung should stick to making devices.
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And please tell me, what reason is there on Android's code that forbids a single universal update?
All firmware versions work with all devices (of the same model obviously). You can use a modem for any region. You can enable languages that aren't enabled by default. Android allows all that.
The problem isn't Android. It's the manufacturers' internal organization, the specific contracts with local operators, and the required tests by local regulation agencies that limit official availability.
Hello, not exactly new to Android or Linux for that matter, but this has got me stumped.
I bought a Samsung Galaxy S5 from China because the seller conned me into thinking it was a g900v. It turns out its a Sm-G9006v. Android says it is 4.4.2 but other programs (Sysinfo, looking up the IMEI) tell me it is 4.2.2. So which do I believe? How do find out once and for all?
There are other little weird things about this phone and I'll explain if you'd like.
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Here's some shots of system info. First two are from android rest are from sysinfo
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GeneralRikan said:
I bought a Samsung Galaxy S5 from China because the seller conned me into thinking it was a g900v. It turns out its a Sm-G9006v. Android says it is 4.4.2 but other programs (Sysinfo, looking up the IMEI) tell me it is 4.2.2. So which do I believe? How do find out once and for all?
There are other little weird things about this phone and I'll explain if you'd like.
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The additional information about anomalies would help. As you discerned, the system information screen looks legitimate, but SysInfo reports a fake i.e. MT6572/4.2.2. Which is correct?
One way to tell conclusively would be to run an extended benchmark suite. There would be a substantial difference in benchmark scores between a fake with a MT class processor and a legitimate G9006V (China Unicom S5). Alternately, you could look closely at the system files to discern if you actually have 4.2.2 or 4.4.2. Or multiple irreconcilable anomalies would.be compelling evidence of a fake.
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Looking at the status bar icons it is pretty apparent this is not an original S5. Or maybe the seller rooted his device and changed the icons.
Also, it shows up as a Mediatek based device (mt6572). IT IS FAKE.
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Looking at the status bar icons it is pretty apparent this is not an original S5.
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Since you're certain, can you provide a screenshot of a known legitimate China Unicom S5 for comparison?
If you've never seen a China unicom S5, then it's premature to declare it a fake before we really know. A different icon could easily be something that the carrier or a localized update effected.
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fffft said:
Since you're certain, can you provide a screenshot of a known legitimate China Unicom S5 for comparison?
If you've never seen a China unicom S5, then it's premature to declare it a fake before we really know. A different icon could easily be something that the carrier or a localized update effected.
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It's running a Mediatek chipset. It is 100% fake. No variant of the S5 uses a Mediatek chipset. Kernel version is also incorrect and Android version shows JDQ39 which is Jellybean. No version of the S5 runs on Jellybean.
Here is your requested image: http://i3.sinaimg.cn/IT/cr/2014/0319/1504933938.jpg sourced from: http://tech.sina.com.cn/mobile/n/2014-03-19/07359253359.shtml
I'm thinking this might be the phone you're talking about...
http://upnovo.com/?Wholesale-China-mobile-cell-smart-phone-cheap/Chinese-Copy-Samsung-Galaxy-S5-G9006-Clone-Replica.html
You're assuming that sysinfo is correct. And it is far from 100% reliable. I already stipulated earlier that it will be a fake if sysinfo turns out to be correct. The information page for the G9006V that you found after the fact is inconclusive with mostly oblique screen views.
The bottom line is that we don't know one way or the other for certain yet. You can cherry pick the evidence suggesting it's a fake if you wish. But there is no reasonable basis to say that the matter has been conclusively proven yet. The OP needs to benchmark the processor or another metric that will clearly distinguish between the two.
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its fake, the android numbers is jelly bean 4.3 , the battery icon is a themed one.
Wrong cpu, wrong board, wrong buildnumber, a clear and obvious copy of a S5. Sorry for you dude. Try to get your money back if you can if you payed with your credit card because of fraud
Yeah, it's 199% fake. Get a refund if possible.
If you want to make it sure, try connecting it to a pc with kies3.
It's a fake, looking at the photo's, the phone is a dual sim phone, in china only the sm9008W and sm9009 are dual sim.
A fake..
Now here's the kicker, it has the heartbeat sensor, it has the fingerprint sensor. Do you think maybe the person I bought it from just flashed it with a wrong ROM?
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Now here's the kicker, it has the heartbeat sensor, it has the fingerprint sensor. Do you think maybe the person I bought it from just flashed it with a wrong ROM?
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Despite a lot of dogmatic opinions in the thread, you still don't have enough information to know yet. You probably have a fake, but that isn't certain simply because a third party app says that you have Jelly Bean firmware and a MT processor. It's a fake if that information is correct, but it wouldn't be the first time that an app has reported erroneous information either.
Likewise, missing the heartrate or fingerprint sensors would be strong evidence of a fake. But the best quality clones do have working heartrate & fingerprint apps. The most damming evidence IMO is the kernel version which is suggestive of a clone. But I stand by my earlier advice. Had you run a benchmark suite, you'd already have a conclusive answer.
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so i recently finished updating my brothers Galaxy S5 to the latest CM13 nightly. while doing this i became furiously jealous. not of the phone but of the fact that its able to run CM. the following day while on my break from class i decided to launch one final attempt at getting custom roms to not only the mate7 but to hopefully all huawei devices.
as we all know, android is open source and free to use. if oems decide to use it on their hardware they are legally obligated to release all possible sources for any and all to use/inspect. huawei has continually refused to do so....... kinda.
so i bought my mate7 from an amazon merchant who imported it from china. why does this matter? on the US huawei site, one can purchase small range of huawe phones (the P8 lite, GX8 and Mate2). huawei has provided all sources for these phones. if you check their xda forums you can see that there are custom roms for all of these.
so, since i didnt buy my mate7 from an authorized US retailer, i have no legal recourse. while this sucks for me, that means that maybe someone in the EU or elsewhere will have luck. other countries have strict laws that protect consumers against OEMs.
all i need is someone to help out with a bit of research so that i/we can hopefully get huawei to comply. look at lenovo/motorola and their situation. i cant be the only one that despises not being able to fully control my device.
its not only a ui issue, its also a huge security issue. who's to say that china isnt spying on us through our devices?? maybe thats why huawei is so adamant on keeping their sources. either way, i think we should unite and give this a try because it looks like huawei might soon be the only OEM to produce top end phablets.
I am in Australia and got my mate 7 from Vodafone here, what do you need me to do to help?
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I am in Australia and got my mate 7 from Vodafone here, what do you need me to do to help?
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first of all.... THANK YOU!!! with that out of the way, the device must have a kirin processor (i know they all are but i have to make sure). since you purchased it from your local authorized dealer, then that means Vodafone and Huawei have a contract.
this is where we can all contribute. here in the US, service providers aren't legally obligated to provided updates to their phones. in some countries they are. there was mention of one country where consumers where legally obligated to 2 years of updates and some other perks.
in your case snake65, i would kindly suggest you start by researching if these laws apply to you in your country. secondly, start a dialogue with a Vodafone representative in a hope to getting the contact information of a huawei official.
i have been in contact with a few but because they are from the north america office and my device is not legally provided here they have refused to help me and by extent everyone else. legal threats wont work with the chinese branch but im hoping that will change in other countries.
im currently trying to get in touch with google over the matter but that is proving to be very difficult. the google product forums will be my next stop. i hope to get some more leads and hopefully more help. thanks again to any and all that can and are willing to help!
i was planning on posting a discussion thread regarding this topic in as many other huawei device subforums but since i still have a few more hours at work and finals this week, i would appreciate it if anyone could help out. maybe the mate 8, p8 forums. thanks to any and all who can help.
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first of all.... THANK YOU!!! with that out of the way, the device must have a kirin processor (i know they all are but i have to make sure). since you purchased it from your local authorized dealer, then that means Vodafone and Huawei have a contract.
this is where we can all contribute. here in the US, service providers aren't legally obligated to provided updates to their phones. in some countries they are. there was mention of one country where consumers where legally obligated to 2 years of updates and some other perks.
in your case snake65, i would kindly suggest you start by researching if these laws apply to you in your country. secondly, start a dialogue with a Vodafone representative in a hope to getting the contact information of a huawei official.
i have been in contact with a few but because they are from the north america office and my device is not legally provided here they have refused to help me and by extent everyone else. legal threats wont work with the chinese branch but im hoping that will change in other countries.
im currently trying to get in touch with google over the matter but that is proving to be very difficult. the google product forums will be my next stop. i hope to get some more leads and hopefully more help. thanks again to any and all that can and are willing to help!
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I wish I could help with the legal side of things, but I bought my device in Tanzania. Huawei does have an office here, however I SERIOUSLY doubt there are any laws here regarding open source software policies.
But I can't think that Google wouldn't be able to step in? Isn't the whole point of Android being open sourced? As far as I understand it (I've only read a few articles on his over the past year or so) is that the only sources that a company can withhold (if their device is running Android, of course) would be software / applications developed and legally owned by them, for example Samsung Pay and so on. Withholding kernel sources does not (once again, according to my knowledge) fall within the rules of using the Android platform. This might also only be applicable law in the US, but I really don't know.
If there are any French users, I understand they just opened up a massive office somewhere in France, in Paris if memory serves. Perhaps they could be helpful?
Isn't there a full kernel source on one of the site's. Is that all that's needed?
Is this any good.
http://www.emui.com/plugin.php?id=hwdownload&mod=detail&mid=97
Or this
http://emui.huawei.com/en/plugin.php?id=hwdownload&mod=detail&mid=74
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Isn't there a full kernel source on one of the site's. Is that all that's needed?
Is this any good.
http://www.emui.com/plugin.php?id=hwdownload&mod=detail&mid=97
Or this
http://emui.huawei.com/en/plugin.php?id=hwdownload&mod=detail&mid=74
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According to what i have read and collected from the forum these are not the only things required to build a custom rom, someone mentioned there are other huawei pieces which they didn't release. Also these kernal sources are for kitkat and lolipop and npt for the marshmallow. In one thread i have read that the kernal sources for marshmallow have been released but its not compilable, so they have made some tweaks to make the kernal compilable. But they require more sources from huawei ("sources for magic bits from huawei") without which building any custom rom is not possible.
wow! thanks to everyone that is showing interest in this. @Scruffykid: that is indeed true. they are legally supposed to share all the sources for their devices. the north american branch of huawei has been doing this for their devices but those are few in number (4) and snapdragon soc based. this is why my attempts to convey my concerns with the north american branch has failed.
they dont see any solution because they are not responsible for my devices since its not technically a north american product. i have tried to get contact info from huawei so that i can start a dialogue but that has not been easy. their forums are also of no use. they keep on deleting my threads regarding the subject and i have been banned 4 times so im starting to reach my limit.
btw, it really irritates me how much people dont seem to care about this. android n will soon be upon us and i doubt we will get it but even if we do it will no doubt be a crippled mess. we really need to get huawei to comply for not just our benefit but them as well.
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wow! thanks to everyone that is showing interest in this. @Scruffykid: that is indeed true. they are legally supposed to share all the sources for their devices. the north american branch of huawei has been doing this for their devices but those are few in number (4) and snapdragon soc based. this is why my attempts to convey my concerns with the north american branch has failed.
they dont see any solution because they are not responsible for my devices since its not technically a north american product. i have tried to get contact info from huawei so that i can start a dialogue but that has not been easy. their forums are also of no use. they keep on deleting my threads regarding the subject and i have been banned 4 times so im starting to reach my limit.
btw, it really irritates me how much people dont seem to care about this. android n will soon be upon us and i doubt we will get it but even if we do it will no doubt be a crippled mess. we really need to get huawei to comply for not just our benefit but them as well.
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I wouldn't say people don't care, but do you have any idea the resources you need to take legal action against Huawei?
If it bugs you enough it's just much quicker to switch brands I guess.
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I don't know why everyone is so desperate for custom ROMs anyway. They always have bugs and unless it's a Samsung touchwiz phone, people tend to go back to stock software rooted.
I have an oppo Find 7 which has a bunch of custom ROMs available and mine is still on oppo ColorOS and rooted.
My Mate 7 on Lollipop runs really nice and there's absolutely no need to even flash it to anything else.
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I don't know why everyone is so desperate for custom ROMs anyway. They always have bugs and unless it's a Samsung touchwiz phone, people tend to go back to stock software rooted.
I have an oppo Find 7 which has a bunch of custom ROMs available and mine is still on oppo ColorOS and rooted.
My Mate 7 on Lollipop runs really nice and there's absolutely no need to even flash it to anything else.
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then clearly my friend, this does not concern you. if your happy then keep emui, but many of us would rather have change. this is not a thread meant to justify our need for custom roms. also, eventually huawei will stop supporting devices. what then? just look at the mediapad x1, it was skipped for marshmallow after only having one update.
this is why sources are needed. no one is saying that you have to use costom roms and actually its not even about that. sure i would love cyanogenmod or omni rom but i would just be happy with aosp android and not that ****ed monstrosity that is emui.
so, to anyone else that wants to sing over their love for emui, please do so on your own thread and not here. this meant for those of us that want our moneys worth. btw, do some googling on huawei product reviews. they all feel the same overall. great hardware, **** software.
I'm all for someone to have a go at doing custom ROMs (if they were not buggy) and Huawei would do well to release all the software sources, especially now that they decided to be a global mobile device powerhouse rather than just a Chinese local. I do think you have zero chance of making an impact. It's a massive company and lets face it, Chinese do not care about what is right or wrong, or about international law. All they care about is making some money. The thing that would hit them is if people stop buying the product.
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wow! thanks to everyone that is showing interest in this. @Scruffykid: that is indeed true. they are legally supposed to share all the sources for their devices. the north american branch of huawei has been doing this for their devices but those are few in number (4) and snapdragon soc based. this is why my attempts to convey my concerns with the north american branch has failed.
they dont see any solution because they are not responsible for my devices since its not technically a north american product. i have tried to get contact info from huawei so that i can start a dialogue but that has not been easy. their forums are also of no use. they keep on deleting my threads regarding the subject and i have been banned 4 times so im starting to reach my limit.
btw, it really irritates me how much people dont seem to care about this. android n will soon be upon us and i doubt we will get it but even if we do it will no doubt be a crippled mess. we really need to get huawei to comply for not just our benefit but them as well.
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I think you should talk to the Google branch from the country in which the phone originated. My specific device (judging by the builds I receive during OTA updates) is from the Asian Pacific region, but obviously then there are European and Middle Eastern versions as well. Try getting in touch with a Google office there?
As @kta said though, taking actual legal action against Huawei will just be a waste of time. If Google can help by simply telling them to release the software (if it does indeed break the law/Google's rules, which it may not). At the end of the day just switching to a device that does have publicly available sources will be the cheapest and most hassle-free way to go.
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I wouldn't say people don't care, but do you have any idea the resources you need to take legal action against Huawei?
If it bugs you enough it's just much quicker to switch brands I guess.
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We should share this thread to other huawei device forums like mate 8 so that we gather more strength.
Hi all.
This is my first post so be gentle.
I have recently purchased an S8. I am diabetic and i use Abbott Freestyle Libre to monitor my blood sugar. Libre uses NFC technology and a specific reader. There are a lot of apps (including an official one : LibreLink (which is not yet available in my country)) to get the readings.
When i first opened the package (S8) the first thing i did was to install Glimp (app from play store) which does the same thing as the reader. Gets the readings via NFC. It worked fine at the time. Then a notification for update came along and i did it. Ever since NFC works fine with other devices apart from the sensor i have. Glimp does no longer work.
I did some research on the internet and found out that a lot of people have the exact same problem as i had.
I contacted Samsung support and told me it is Abboots fault. I called Abbott and told me its samsungs fault. I called Glimp HQ and told me "No S8!" (lol). LibreLink was even became unavailable through playstore because of that reason.
How i solved it:
I downloaded the original samsung ROM that the mobile came with and installed it via Odin. It was the earliest one. AQCA. Since it was an official samsung ROM, the KNOX was not triggered and i am still on 0 (good news). Glimp and NFC are working as they should without a problem with this firmware.
The thing is that i would like to be able to get the updates without fear of having to roll back on the first rom and do the tiring procedure of restoring and backing up over and over again.
Does anyone know what they did from the AQCA to AQDD regarding the NFC?
Has anyone else solved the issue with any other way than mine?
Thank you in advance.
Don't do the updates it's still doesn't work and we are the 5th of july
I have the same issue, just that I am only thinking about buying a phone.
Regarding LibreLink, there seem to be several discussions around the Galaxy S7/S8 phones and trouble around the current firmware (S8) and the current LibreLink version (S7). The solution seems to be: use an APK LibreLink (S7) or an older firmware (S8) until someone solved the problems. Glimp doesn't seem to work at all with the S7 (non-edge), but LibreLink seems to.
All very strange!
Can you help me regarding the S8, All these firmware names are rather cryptic for an outsider. How can i find out if the firmware is still available for a specific model.
(I am in Switzerland, will buy a non-branded phone).
thanks!!
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christian.ry said:
I have the same issue, just that I am only thinking about buying a phone.
Regarding LibreLink, there seem to be several discussions around the Galaxy S7/S8 phones and trouble around the current firmware (S8) and the current LibreLink version (S7). The solution seems to be: use an APK LibreLink (S7) or an older firmware (S8) until someone solved the problems. Glimp doesn't seem to work at all with the S7 (non-edge), but LibreLink seems to.
All very strange!
Can you help me regarding the S8, All these firmware names are rather cryptic for an outsider. How can i find out if the firmware is still available for a specific model.
(I am in Switzerland, will buy a non-branded phone).
thanks!!
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I know it a strange problem.
Samsung messed it up real good this time.
Right now I am using only Glimp.
I have researched and did a lot of experiments to find out which firmware is ok to work with both applications.
Unfortunately, the earliest firmware that is for EU phones (Unlocked) is not early enough. There are other firmwares that came earlier to companies like Vodafone etc etc. These are the firmwares you need to download. Right now I am using the one that ends in AQCA, which is the earliest one. and it works fine.
I guess that you will have no problem flashing a firmware that is from another company (mine for example that it is the vodafone GR AQCA) and still work fine. The firmware you need is given by SwissCom and it is the same that I am using. No matter what you download make sure that the PDA ends in AQCA or AQC9.
Make sure that you flash ALL files from the firmware that you will download. Not just the AP, but all of them, else you will have different baseband versions and your phone would be messed up in different ways. And definitely, when the notification for update pops up, always choose LATER, or you will have to roll back again after the update is done.
Also, since it is an original firmware i guess, as it happened in my case too, the KNOX will not be triggered.
If you have any questions about how to do it, pm me, and i will be more than happy to help. It was really bad for me having an S8 and not be able to work with something so essential as blood monitoring which a 100$ lenovo would have no problem!!! I was ready to sell it.
That is actually helping a lot. For me it probably just means I won't buy the phone at all and since there is no reliable info on a high-end Android phone available, I will continue using the Freestyle-Reader.
But now that we're at it, do you know what the "AUT" in the other firmwares available for Switzerland means?
I understand the I'll need at least AQCA or AQC9, which is only available for the Swisscom formwares.
Since these are official firmwares, can the official Samsung tool (SmartSwitch) be used to flash them?
And thanks anyway, this was very helpful!
christian.ry said:
That is actually helping a lot. For me it probably just means I won't buy the phone at all and since there is no reliable info on a high-end Android phone available, I will continue using the Freestyle-Reader.
But now that we're at it, do you know what the "AUT" in the other firmwares available for Switzerland means?
I understand the I'll need at least AQCA or AQC9, which is only available for the Swisscom formwares.
Since these are official firmwares, can the official Samsung tool (SmartSwitch) be used to flash them?
And thanks anyway, this was very helpful!
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Happy to help.
The AUT im not sure what it is but my guess is that has to do something with the region.
If you decide to finally buy the S8 then the only way to flash any ROM is the Odin application that circles around the net. Very easy to find.
Understand that this happens with S7 and S8 only and that is completely Samsungs fault.
I tried to work around with the freestyle libre reader when my S8 was updated and i did not find it useful at all. I had to always have the reader on me, where my S8 was already with me. I dont carry around a bag to have things in it and that is why it was not suitable for me. If you, on the other hand, have no problem carrying around the reader then i guess that having a libre-working phone pays no role.
SmartSwitch is a completely different tool. It only transfers data (contacts, logs, pictures, video, logs etc etc.) an not system, so this will not be in any case helpful.
Tip for reliable readings with Glimp:
Insert the blood levels from the reader into Glimp manually when u measure the blood sugar.
ex. You measure the blood sugar level with glimp and it states 100. The same minute measure the blood sugar lever with the freestyle libre reader and it states 88. Insert the 88 manually in to glimp the same moment you read it. That way the Glimp readjusts the algorithm that uses to better suit the readeer readings. After a day of re-adjustment the readings from Glimp are not so different from the reader. -5+ around.
If you need anything else, I ll be around and check this post regularly.
Other people need the information too, i guess.
Hey again,
I think we're having very much similar issues – I started with the reader when I got my first sensors and worked with it for about a year, which was great compared to the normal blood glucose measurements.
And now I am ready to change to Android (seems iOS will never happen) and realize that the Galaxy S4 that I am currently using (got it from a friend for free) is much more fidgety to use than the reader was.
By that I mean it can takes quite a while to get it realize the sensor and do the measurement, the reader did it in an instant. Is that similar with your S8? On the other hand I if course completely agree - having two devices to carry sucks, I just ask myself why is everyone making it so difficult for us?
There is another thread on reddit where someone also uses your method, I can share the link if necessary
Now - allow me two remaining questions:
- work with a firmware that cannot be updated – have you had any problems with other apps?
- how do I make sure the phone I buy in Switzerland will be able to use the UK firmware (or another)? You sound quite confident it will work though.
And finally – are you aware of any other state-of-the-art phone that actually does all this without issues? The only one I heard of is the S7 edge, but with other phones we are completely left alone with LibreLink. Doh. I even thought of creating a facebook page that collects information about that.
Now thanks again for your help, feels good to finally not be alone with the issue
christian.ry said:
Hey again,
I think we're having very much similar issues – I started with the reader when I got my first sensors and worked with it for about a year, which was great compared to the normal blood glucose measurements.
And now I am ready to change to Android (seems iOS will never happen) and realize that the Galaxy S4 that I am currently using (got it from a friend for free) is much more fidgety to use than the reader was.
By that I mean it can takes quite a while to get it realize the sensor and do the measurement, the reader did it in an instant. Is that similar with your S8? On the other hand I if course completely agree - having two devices to carry sucks, I just ask myself why is everyone making it so difficult for us?
There is another thread on reddit where someone also uses your method, I can share the link if necessary
Now - allow me two remaining questions:
- work with a firmware that cannot be updated – have you had any problems with other apps?
- how do I make sure the phone I buy in Switzerland will be able to use the UK firmware (or another)? You sound quite confident it will work though.
And finally – are you aware of any other state-of-the-art phone that actually does all this without issues? The only one I heard of is the S7 edge, but with other phones we are completely left alone with LibreLink. Doh. I even thought of creating a facebook page that collects information about that.
Now thanks again for your help, feels good to finally not be alone with the issue
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Well, The readings with the sensor are so much faster than with the phone because the whole reader is an NFC antenna, where in the case of the phone you have to completely match the antenna surface with the sensors surface. Look up in the internet to find in which part of the phone (S4) is the NFC antenna located for better (faster) readings. As you look the back of the S4 is in the right side of the camera flash.
Yes, i have seen the reddit thread. Its pretty much the same as what i have done. Same problem - same solution.
There also been cases with S7 (not S7 edge) with the same problem. I dont know why Edge is working but the normal one does not.
As for other phones, the one that i was having before the S8 was the oneplus 3T (one of the greatest phones around - extremely powerful). Now oneplus launches the oneplus 5 (20 of June), which i believe will beat the S8 in benchmarks and performance. Oneplus 3T was better than S7. The good thing about oneplus is that you do not loose the warranty if you root it or flash a custom OS. Basically, there is no way to loose the warranty with oneplus whatsoever. And since its one of the most popular phones around the Android community, if the stock rom does not work (extremely unlikely) you can flash another one and still be in top ranks.
I can only suggest though, and be absolutely sure for, phones that i have tested. We have seen what happened with the S8. The one minute was working and after the update not so much... I could start a list and post the brand and the firmware of the phone of phones that work with Glimp (LibreLink is still unavailable in my country). But if it works with the one will work with the other.
As of the confidence that the firmware swapping will work:
I could try it on my phone and tell you.
I mean - my S8 was bought in Greece and it was a branded Vodafone phone. I could flash the SwissCom firmware that will supposedly work with the phone that you will buy and tell you.
Sadly for you (happily for me) I do not have a facebook page or any other social networking page to be part of it.
Hey again
Thanks for the a kind offer (flashing), but it is not necessary. I think I won’t go for the S8 until the issues are resolved or it at least is more clear.
I just tried an S7 with an older LibreLink Version (someone reported it works, I guess you’ve seen that too). It did exactly once, before destroying the sensor (I had only 1-2 days left, so thought I just give it a shot). But I should have known better ?
The OneTouch sounds indeed like a good option, let’s see how it finally looks!
Thanks for helping me!
christian.ry said:
Hey again
Thanks for the a kind offer (flashing), but it is not necessary. I think I won’t go for the S8 until the issues are resolved or it at least is more clear.
I just tried an S7 with an older LibreLink Version (someone reported it works, I guess you’ve seen that too). It did exactly once, before destroying the sensor (I had only 1-2 days left, so thought I just give it a shot). But I should have known better
The OneTouch sounds indeed like a good option, let’s see how it finally looks!
Thanks for helping me!
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No problem.
There is a very informative list of devices in the website of Glimp somewhere that states which phone tend to destroy the sensors. I managed to find it once and never again.
The S8 has been tiring for me the past few days with all the problems it has and the problems that have yet to come. I didnt know that Samsung was that unreliable.
Thankfully the S8 is the TOP samsung phone right now in the market and i will have no problem selling it in a good price. I will return to the OnePlus which has the best customer service and no complex whatsoever regarding custom ROMs and device modifications.
I just hope samsung will make it up for all the trouble people have been through at some point.
Good luck all.
PS. In any point in the future, if someone has a problem with S8 devices regarding Glimp and how to make it work properly, feel free to pm me.
Seems like neither Samsung nor Glimp have any intentions to solve the matter.
I, therefore, sold my S8 and bought an LG G6.
My impression are way way better than the S8s.
The G6 NFC antenna is huge and it acts very similar to the reader, meaning that i do not have to get too close to get the reading. This is the only mobile phone that i have seen doing that.
I know that the G6 is worse than the S8 in many ways but it works so much better with the Freestyle.
Hello, I have the same problem and unfortunatelly I have to use old firmware.
I noticed that Samsung pushed new update (16.07.2017) - I found that on sammobile.
Have anyone tried this update (maybe they fixed nfc issue)?
The issue has been solved at least in my s8 librelink and glimp works with the last update
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The issue has been solved at least in my s8 librelink and glimp works with the last update
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WOW!!!! It's great! This update prompt in notifications is so annoying...... Can you check in the settings exact version number? I mean G950FXXU1............... ?
Good news! Great news.
Someone in the Samsung company has been listening.
Good to know they take into consideration all that have been around.
I have already soled my S8 though so i cannot confirm it but i would take your word for it since you have been having the same problem with everyone else and it has been solved.
Cheers.
Now I can confirm that all issues are gone I installed new software G950FXXU1AQG5 (I'm from Poland, XEO version) and everything is ok.
LibreLink app usage
Hi,
I confirm that since the last software update, Samsung Galaxy S8 eventually is able to read the Freestyle Libre Sensors.
Although, can you share your experience on how do you use the official LibreLink application for countries which the android/iOS app has not yet been released?
I 've tried to download the android .apk with the check for the country disabled from apkpure.com, or even downloaded the official app via VPN (i.e. from Italy) but I got an error message for the compatibility of the country at the very beginning of the app.
Thus, I used the Lucky Patcher app to reproduce the official Italian valid version of the .apk by only removing the compatibility checks. Finally, I bypass the country check and I can proceed to read the sensor. But still I get another error: "Incompatible Sensor. This sensor cannot be used with this version of LibreLink."
Any ideas? Has anybody managed to do it successfully?
Thank you.
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No problem.
There is a very informative list of devices in the website of Glimp somewhere that states which phone tend to destroy the sensors. I managed to find it once and never again.
The S8 has been tiring for me the past few days with all the problems it has and the problems that have yet to come. I didnt know that Samsung was that unreliable.
Thankfully the S8 is the TOP samsung phone right now in the market and i will have no problem selling it in a good price. I will return to the OnePlus which has the best customer service and no complex whatsoever regarding custom ROMs and device modifications.
I just hope samsung will make it up for all the trouble people have been through at some point.
Good luck all.
PS. In any point in the future, if someone has a problem with S8 devices regarding Glimp and how to make it work properly, feel free to pm me.
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The website you're looking for is this one most likely: deebee.it/?p=4959
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=== Supported NFC Smartphones
LG_G3
LG_WATCH_URBANE_2
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_A3
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_ACE3
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S3
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S3_NEO
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S4
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S4_MINI
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S7_EDGE
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S8
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S8_PLUS
=== Not Supported Smartphones
BLACKBERRY_Z10
=== Not recommended NFC Smartphones
HUAWEI_HONOR_V8
HUAWEI_NEXUS_6P
HUAWEI_P8_LITE
GOOGLE_PIXEL
LG_K8
LG_NEXUS_5
LG_NEXUX_5X
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_CORE_PRIME
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_GRAND_PRIME
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_A3_2016
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_J3
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_NOTE5
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S7
SAMSUNG_GALAXY_YOUNG2
XIAOMI_MI5
XIAOMI_MIX
Project XCloud is coming out soon and the Galaxy View tablets will be the perfect tablets to have portable xbox gaming on the go however the minimum requirements for Project XCloud is 6.0 (Marshmallow) or higher! The highest version the original Galaxy View has is 5.1 (Lollipop) now I'm aware their's custom roms for higher android versions but I don't want to strip the original software from Samsung in favor of other roms, is there anything we can do to have the software updated? Mine is the AT&T 64GB Black model that is LTE + Wifi.
Bump, I'm in the exact same boat
AOSP-ish?
What're you guys slow? Lmao! Sry jk! They've already released the Galaxy View 2. Being that the last official update for GV1 is what? 2016; I believe? I don't think there is anything we can do for an official update from Samsung. *shrug* MAYBE try e-signing some type of online petition? Maybe Fakebook? Twatter? (*sp-Squatter) Instascram?
I would also think that Samsung would have to be linked or tagged to make it count. I'm going to take a VERY ROUGH guesstimate on what would actually grab SS Dev's attention: ~10-25k people?
I was actually thinking of the possibility of doing a "just enough" mod of the View2 stock firmware to get it working, they have relatively the same physical attributes and when you .mk the Android Package if conf files are all in order it should work for the most part. Now I'm aware this is STILL not an "official" update/firmware but it's the closest you'll get without them damn lazy devs at SS signing the apks themselves. *shrug*
Feedback?
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What're you guys slow? Lmao! Sry jk! They've already released the Galaxy View 2. Being that the last official update for GV1 is what? 2016; I believe? I don't think there is anything we can do for an official update from Samsung. *shrug* MAYBE try e-signing some type of online petition? Maybe Fakebook? Twatter? (*sp-Squatter) Instascram?
I would also think that Samsung would have to be linked or tagged to make it count. I'm going to take a VERY ROUGH guesstimate on what would actually grab SS Dev's attention: ~10-25k people?
I was actually thinking of the possibility of doing a "just enough" mod of the View2 stock firmware to get it working, they have relatively the same physical attributes and when you .mk the Android Package if conf files are all in order it should work for the most part. Now I'm aware this is STILL not an "official" update/firmware but it's the closest you'll get without them damn lazy devs at SS signing the apks themselves. *shrug*
Feedback?
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samsung is as worthless as their tvs! they update once maybe twice the software and then it is dead. because they are too busy trying to rip everyone off for the next $1000 phone or TV to care about keeping their stuff up to date. i have been sitting at 5.1 forever and the tablet lags so much now i have to disable 90% of the apps because they are memory hogs especially google apps. even updating the rom to 6.0 would make the tablet run smoother, but that will never happen.